Fresh Bullshit: The stupid theory that Shaq came to LA to play with a high schooler.

[9erempiree]

Here are little brief facts about Shaq and his decision to come to L.A.

Most people would like to say Kobe was lucky to have Shaq on his team but also, at the same time, I like to say Shaq was lucky to have Kobe too. Thanks to Kobe, it landed Shaq on the Lakers.

Kobe Bryant joined the Lakers: July 1, 1996

Shaquile O' Neal joined the Lakers: July 18, 1996


Jerry West persuaded Shaq with an opportunity to win multiple championships with a young squad especially with a young SG, who had potential to be one of the greatest players of all time.


Shaq press conference mentions joining the team with Kobe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fak_wv3uoM

Shaq on Jerry West, showing him highlight videos of Kobe, when he was being recruited by the Lakers:

http://youtu.be/PtGJSiMqpWk?t=46s

[TheReal Kendall]

Glad to see you back bro:cheers:

[TheWINdyCity]

nice title RMWG :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

nice title RMWG :oldlol:

That's why this place shouldn't give mod duties to trolls.

:facepalm

[9erempiree]

I would like an explanation why Real Women wear pink, would edit my thread title with profanity and foul language?

Trolling as usual.

:facepalm

[ispin69]

Oh look revisionist history. :facepalm

[9erempiree]

Oh look revisionist history. :facepalm

I gave a well thought out explanation and backed it up with video evidence from Shaq himself. This wasn't a transcript of what he said but videos of him saying it.

I have also documented these instances in chronological order to give you an idea of what came to fruition as he signed with the Lakers.

It's a good thing the Lakers got Kobe, it landed us Shaq.

[Orlando Magic]

Lol @ The Thread Title. Mod Winning.

[BBallZen83]

That's why this place shouldn't give mod duties to trolls.

:facepalm
Consider it tit for tat.

[9erempiree]

Lol @ The Thread Title. Mod Winning.

Don't mind the troll.

He could have easily responded in the thread but instead chose to respond by changing my thread title. He's trying to get attention.


I'm living in his mind...rent free.

[Fallen Angel]

lol at the thread title. Good stuff, mods.

[zoom17]

:facepalm Why cant you just go away.

[ILLsmak]

Shaq was going to LA period unless Orlando kept him there. I think it was foregone, unless somehow Orlando turned into a championship team. He even rapped about going to LA in 92.

-Smak

[Nevaeh]

lol at the thread title. Good stuff, mods.

I'm not anti 9er, but the Mods should do this for all of his threads until the season starts, just for the Lulz.

:lol

[TheReal Kendall]

I'm not anti 9er, but the Mods should do this for all of his threads until the season starts, just for the Lulz.

:lol

This.

They should do it to Silkk and Tony too.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Don't mind the troll.

He could have easily responded in the thread but instead chose to respond by changing my thread title. He's trying to get attention.


I'm living in his mind...rent free.
You sound upset. Is it because your thread title got changed or because shaq will always be better than kobe?
Either way dont let it get to you buddy, think positive thoughts.

[9erempiree]

You sound upset. Is it because your thread title got changed or because shaq will always be better than kobe?
Either way dont let it get to you buddy, think positive thoughts.

I have no opinion on the thread. It was started with facts and the events that led up to him going to Los Angeles.

It's because of Kobe that brought Shaq here and in return, them together, brought the city and fans a 3peat.

How the heck is that not positive?

[Bandito]

What a coincidence that 9erempire and Tony were inactive at the same time.

[Spaulding]

This is great.

[Dro]

:lol

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I have no opinion on the thread. It was started with facts and the events that led up to him going to Los Angeles.

It's because of Kobe that brought Shaq here and in return, them together, brought the city and fans a 3peat.

How the heck is that not positive?
You made multiple mentions of RMWG changing the title and made a weak attempt to insult him (calling him real women wear pink). That would suggest you are upset.
Regardless if shaq came to la because of kobe (highly doubtful), kobe should appreciate the fact he got to play with arguably the most dominant peak player ever.

[9erempiree]

Regardless if shaq came to la because of kobe (highly doubtful), kobe should appreciate the fact he got to play with arguably the most dominant peak player ever.

Yes, we already heard numerous interviews where Kobe said he has no problems playing with Shaq. Shaq got to play with the greatest perimeter player in league history as well.

[Sharmer]

Yes, we already heard numerous interviews where Kobe said he has no problems playing with Shaq. Shaq got to play with the greatest perimeter player in league history as well.

You're deluded. :biggums:

[9erempiree]

You're deluded. :biggums:

Only other SG in the top 7 greatest players in history and you don't think he's the greatest?

:facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

Yes, we already heard numerous interviews where Kobe said he has no problems playing with Shaq. Shaq got to play with the greatest perimeter player in league history as well.
huh. wow. didn't know you were a Lebron fan

[red1]

Yes, we already heard numerous interviews where Kobe said he has no problems playing with Shaq. Shaq got to play with the greatest perimeter player in league history as well.
*4th greatest perimeter player
There is no shame in being the first runner-up to the two MJs and larry legend

[9erempiree]

*4th greatest perimeter player
There is no shame in being the first runner-up to the two MJs and larry legend

:facepalm

I will hold out on the Kobe vs Magic vs Larry debate. It's been argued countless times and the argument always lean towards Kobe.

It deserves a thread of it's own to be honest.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

*4th greatest perimeter player
There is no shame in being the first runner-up to the two MJs and larry legend
Soon to be 5th :)

[dr.hee]

*4th greatest perimeter player
There is no shame in being the first runner-up to the two MJs and larry legend

Not to Kobe himself. But to some random kids on the internet compensating their lack of real life success by projecting Kobe's achievements onto their own life? I guess it's threatening...

[TheMilkyBarKid]

:facepalm

I will hold out on the Kobe vs Magic vs Larry debate. It's been argued countless times and the argument always lean towards Kobe.

It deserves a thread of it's own to be honest.
Dat denial

[red1]

:facepalm

I will hold out on the Kobe vs Magic vs Larry debate. It's been argued countless times and the argument always lean towards Kobe.

It deserves a thread of it's own to be honest.
I can see there being an argument for kobe over magic or bird but that still wouldn't make him the best perimeter player so your fantasies are still a delusion lebron is also better and I personally would never take kobe over bird

[TheReal Kendall]

What a coincidence that 9erempire and Tony were inactive at the same time.

:lol

So you think they are the same person?

One is a Kobe stan and the other a Lebron stan

[TheMilkyBarKid]

:lol

So you think they are the same person?

One is a Kobe stan and the other a Lebron stan
Both love getting reactions and are way over the top with their opinions

[9erempiree]

Both love getting reactions and are way over the top with their opinions

I never stated an opinion in the OP or the premise of the thread. I don't see how it's over the top unless you are speaking about my opinion on Kobe, which is true.

Is Kobe not a perimeter player? Is he not one of the greatest players to ever play the game? Is he not a top 10 player on most people's list?

Then why is it hard for you to comprehend that one of the greatest players of all time, can't be the greatest perimeter player of all time.

[KG215]

Shaq's exact words when he mentioned Kobe:

"I'm not gonna, you know, take anything away from Cedric Ceballos game, or Nick Van Exel's game. Nick Van Exel is a point guard, the leader of the team; Cedric Ceballos is a slasher; Elden Campbell is a rebounder, scorer when he needs to, and Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant."


That's it. That's all he said about Kobe. Only the most delusional Kobe fanboy would take that and turn it into Shaq going to LA, specifically to play with Kobe; a 17 year old high schooler that he probably didn't know shit about.

[9erempiree]

Shaq's exact words when he mentioned Kobe:

"I'm not gonna, you know, take anything away from Cedric Ceballos game, or Nick Van Exel's game. Nick Van Exel is a point guard, the leader of the team; Cedric Ceballos is a slasher; Elden Campbell is a rebounder, scorer when he needs to, and Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant."


That's it. That's all he said about Kobe. Only the most delusional Kobe fanboy would take that and turn it into Shaq going to LA, specifically to play with Kobe; a 17 year old high schooler that he probably didn't know shit about.

How about the timeline I posted....and the 2nd video with the Sager interview? Care to elaborate on what Shaq meant when he said Jerry West showed him Kobe videos?

[red1]

Shaq's exact words when he mentioned Kobe:

"I'm not gonna, you know, take anything away from Cedric Ceballos game, or Nick Van Exel's game. Nick Van Exel is a point guard, the leader of the team; Cedric Ceballos is a slasher; Elden Campbell is a rebounder, scorer when he needs to, and Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant."


That's it. That's all he said about Kobe. Only the most delusional Kobe fanboy would take that and turn it into Shaq going to LA, specifically to play with Kobe; a 17 year old high schooler that he probably didn't know shit about.
You are one of the first posters I would nominate to become a mod

[Rooster]

Shaq's exact words when he mentioned Kobe:

"I'm not gonna, you know, take anything away from Cedric Ceballos game, or Nick Van Exel's game. Nick Van Exel is a point guard, the leader of the team; Cedric Ceballos is a slasher; Elden Campbell is a rebounder, scorer when he needs to, and Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant."


That's it. That's all he said about Kobe. Only the most delusional Kobe fanboy would take that and turn it into Shaq going to LA, specifically to play with Kobe; a 17 year old high schooler that he probably didn't know shit about.

I knew Shaq seriously considered the Lakers after Lakers ambushed his team on the road. I could see from his demeanor and body language when he saw that team. A lot of those players he mention beside Kobe were getting into their prime and Lakers was a surprised team that year. He knew he could take those guys to the next level. I don't think Kobe mattered around that time.

[monkeypox]

Lol, troll mods. And people wonder why this place is infested with trolls.

[funnystuff]

Who cares why you think Shaq came to LA. The reality during that 3peat is this-

http://www.behindthebasket.com/storage/post-images/SOneal%20KBryant.jpg

[SpurrDurr]

The real question is: why Kobe didn't want to play with the Hornets?

http://halestormsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/09kobe_stern_draft-300x126.jpg

[Marchesk]

I knew Shaq seriously considered the Lakers after Lakers ambushed his team on the road. I could see from his demeanor and body language when he saw that team. A lot of those players he mention beside Kobe were getting into their prime and Lakers was a surprised team that year. He knew he could take those guys to the next level. I don't think Kobe mattered around that time.

Except he didn't. The Lakers didn't when until Phil took over after three seasons of losing in the playoffs as the favorites. The guys Shaq took to the next level were dudes named Kobe, Horry, Fisher, not Van Exel or Jones.

[Marchesk]

Shaq was going to LA period unless Orlando kept him there. I think it was foregone, unless somehow Orlando turned into a championship team. He even rapped about going to LA in 92.

How was Olrando less of a title contender than LA was? Shaq left because he didn't want to be in Orlando anymore. And he probably was getting a little salty over Penny Hardaway's "best player in basketball" commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qkPi-dPNsM

[ralph_i_el]

:bowdown: mods=gods

Kobe wasn't even the best sg on the Lakers at the time.

[funnystuff]

The real question is: why Kobe didn't want to play with the Hornets?

http://halestormsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/09kobe_stern_draft-300x126.jpg
That ones simple. Because he doesn't have the man parts for it.

[boozehound]

I'm not anti 9er, but the Mods should do this for all of his threads until the season starts, just for the Lulz.

:lol
yes, it makes it much more enjoyable. Go mods go!

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Mods win. I approve of thread title.

9reempire is an annoying member of the church of kobe

[TheWalkman]

:applause: :applause:

love our mods

[3LiftHeatCurse]

*4th greatest perimeter player
There is no shame in being the first runner-up to the two MJs and larry legend

If you look at the stats and career, I still believe Jerry West is greater than Kobe. West was a better all around player. Better assists, Better rebounds, better scoring, better efficiency, better EVERYTHING in an era when there was no 3pt shot. And if you know anything about Jerry West, you know he could have gotten a ton of points from the 3pt line like Kobe has.


And in the playoffs, West's stats go UP, whereas Kobe's goes DOWN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3FAsClN5CQ

INB4 a Kobe fan posts something West said. Just because West is humble and says things, doesn't change facts. That's like Gretzky coming out and saying "Mario Lemieux was better than me". It doesn't matter what he says, it doesn't make it true. Nobody is better than The Great One.

[Vienceslav]

If you look at the stats and career, I still believe Jerry West is greater than Kobe. West was a better all around player. Better assists, Better rebounds, better scoring, better efficiency, better EVERYTHING in an era when there was no 3pt shot. And if you know anything about Jerry West, you know he could have gotten a ton of points from the 3pt line like Kobe has.


And in the playoffs, West's stats go UP, whereas Kobe's goes DOWN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3FAsClN5CQ

INB4 a Kobe fan posts something West said. Just because West is humble and says things, doesn't change facts. That's like Gretzky coming out and saying "Mario Lemieux was better than me". It doesn't matter what he says, it doesn't make it true. Nobody is better than The Great One.
Just don't.:cheers:

[ballup]

Title is appropriate. I heard that Pepsi and Reebok were bigger reasons for Shaq to go to LA than Kobe.

[Nick Young]

I would like an explanation why Real Women wear pink, would edit my thread title with profanity and foul language?

Trolling as usual.

:facepalm
Celtics fan troll idiot.

A true disgrace to NBA fandom:facepalm

[Nevaeh]

Title is appropriate. I heard that Pepsi and Reebok were bigger reasons for Shaq to go to LA than Kobe.

And movies, and Rap records/videos, etc. People seem to forget that when Shaq went to LA, there was no Phil Jackson, or triangle at the time, but he did respect Jerry West, Buss and Del Harris as a coach.

It was Phil however who helped Shaq realize the importance of discipline and how in order to win championships he was gonna have to cut back on all of the side distractions and concentrate on his game a lot more, which Shaq did, to the point where Shaq did better than even Phil could have imagined, especially during their Finals runs.

But of course, leave it to 9er to imagine Shaq weeping in his pillow, imagining a high school star bailing him out, and finally getting him over the hump. Gotta love ISH man.

:oldlol:

[ralph_i_el]

That's why this place shouldn't give mod duties to trolls.

:facepalm

no this is why they should let mods perma ban. Then there wouldn't be any of your threads to mess with.

Either you're so delusional that you actually believe what you say (maybe you're younger than 15?)

or

You're completely fueled by the hate you elicit from people who actually want to talk about basketball without every thread being blatant homerism

[Soundwave]

As someone who actually followed basketball back then (lol), the Lakers were becoming a "trendy" team by 1995 anyway. Van Exel, Ceballos, Eddie Jones, Elden Campbell were a good young nucleus and won 50+ games the year before Shaq arrived.

People were already saying "Showtime is back" in LA and the Forum was starting to sell out again even prior to Shaq going there.

[9erempiree]

And movies, and Rap records/videos, etc. People seem to forget that when Shaq went to LA, there was no Phil Jackson, or triangle at the time, but he did respect Jerry West, Buss and Del Harris as a coach.

It was Phil however who helped Shaq realize the importance of discipline and how in order to win championships he was gonna have to cut back on all of the side distractions and concentrate on his game a lot more, which Shaq did, to the point where Shaq did better than even Phil could have imagined, especially during their Finals runs.

But of course, leave it to 9er to imagine Shaq weeping in his pillow, imagining a high school star bailing him out, and finally getting him over the hump. Gotta love ISH man.

:oldlol:

All the things you mentioned are opinions.

Check my OP, all facts and things said coming out of Shaq's very own mouth and chronological facts too.

Nothing opinionated about my piece.

[HurricaneKid]

Mod wins!

What an idiotic thread. "The reason I am taking my Basketball, Rap, and Movie career to LA is because they took a HS kid with the #13 pick a few weeks ago".

The fact that they traded Divac for the pick in the first place means it was a done deal long before then.

[9erempiree]

Mod wins!

What an idiotic thread. "The reason I am taking my Basketball, Rap, and Movie career to LA is because they took a HS kid with the #13 pick a few weeks ago".

The fact that they traded Divac for the pick in the first place means it was a done deal long before then.

Did you not watch the second video?

[HurricaneKid]

Did you not watch the second video?


No. I don't care if he said he looked forward to playing with the kid. Thats what the best player on a team does; they encourage their young players.

Your timeline is still off. The REASON the Lakers traded Divac for the #13 pick is that Shaq to LA was a done deal.

Think about what you are suggesting. Its idiotic. Can you imagine your comments if someone created a thread that LeBron in "The Decision" was choosing his team based on where Markieff Morris (the #13 pick) ended up?

Its one thing to be an attention whore. Its another to wipe your face with feces to see the looks people give you.

[TheReal Kendall]

No. I don't care if he said he looked forward to playing with the kid. Thats what the best player on a team does; they encourage their young players.

Your timeline is still off. The REASON the Lakers traded Divac for the #13 pick is that Shaq to LA was a done deal.

Think about what you are suggesting. Its idiotic. Can you imagine your comments if someone created a thread that LeBron in "The Decision" was choosing his team based on where Markieff Morris (the #13 pick) ended up?

Its one thing to be an attention whore. Its another to wipe your face with feces to see the looks people give you.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[9erempiree]

Think about what you are suggesting. Its idiotic. Can you imagine your comments if someone created a thread that LeBron in "The Decision" was choosing his team based on where Markieff Morris (the #13 pick) ended up?

That's because Lebron only goes where there are superstars.


Its one thing to be an attention whore. Its another to wipe your face with feces to see the looks people give you.

What kind of looks do they give you?

[caliman]

Its one thing to be an attention whore. Its another to wipe your face with feces to see the looks people give you.


Damn :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Its one thing to be an attention whore. Its another to wipe your face with feces to see the looks people give you.
I nominate HurricaneKid for Moderator. Please support me in this effort to give him the power to clean up this board. For the good of Insidehoops.

[9erempiree]

I nominate HurricaneKid for Moderator. Please support me in this effort to give him the power to clean up this board. For the good of Insidehoops.

Obviously you love ISH.

I suggest you leave this place for the betterment of it.

Other mods don't even like you.

[dr.hee]

Its one thing to be an attention whore. Its another to wipe your face with feces to see the looks people give you.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6nne3gnAu1qbi1f7o6_500.gif

[Sharmer]

Obviously you love ISH.

I suggest you leave this place for the betterment of it.

Other mods don't even like you.

:lol

[Sharmer]

Obviously you love ISH.

I suggest you leave this place for the betterment of it.

Other mods don't even like you.

This post most of got you banned.

[Spaulding]

This is very exciting. ISH Mods are fighting back and there's nothing the trolls can do about it.

[Sharmer]

This is very exciting. ISH Mods are fighting back and there's nothing the trolls can do about it.

The empire strikes back.

[Jameerthefear]

Mods can ban now?

[TheMarkMadsen]

This post most of got you banned.


You can still report him so he's not banned

[longtime lurker]

This is very exciting. ISH Mods are fighting back and there's nothing the trolls can do about it.

I'm all for mods trolling the shit out of posters, but they need to do it equally to all the idiots.

[zoom17]

I'm all for mods trolling the shit out of posters, but they need to do it equally to all the idiots.

like you:oldlol:

[funnystuff]

Obviously you love ISH.

I suggest you leave this place for the betterment of it.

Other mods don't even like you.
:lebronamazed:
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/161/608/ban-him.jpg

[ILLsmak]

I nominate HurricaneKid for Moderator. Please support me in this effort to give him the power to clean up this board. For the good of Insidehoops.

I like Real Men Wear Green...

why do people dislike him? He's just a normal dude. He's not a troll.

WHOEVER IS NOT AGAINST US IS FOR US...

dat Jesus.

-Smak

[ILLsmak]

Mods can ban now?


this dude needs to change his avy and stop pretending to be a 15 year old so he can live out his pedo net fantasies, tho...

-Smak

[9erempiree]

If you look at the stats and career, I still believe Jerry West is greater than Kobe. West was a better all around player. Better assists, Better rebounds, better scoring, better efficiency, better EVERYTHING in an era when there was no 3pt shot. And if you know anything about Jerry West, you know he could have gotten a ton of points from the 3pt line like Kobe has.


And in the playoffs, West's stats go UP, whereas Kobe's goes DOWN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3FAsClN5CQ

INB4 a Kobe fan posts something West said. Just because West is humble and says things, doesn't change facts. That's like Gretzky coming out and saying "Mario Lemieux was better than me". It doesn't matter what he says, it doesn't make it true. Nobody is better than The Great One.

We really don't need to debate this. There are multiple Kobe vs West threads and everyone of them have Kobe as the better player.