Magic didnt seem to like Lebrons top 3 comment.

[pauk]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/magic-responds-lebron-top-3.jpg

[DCL]

guess rings only matter unless it's bill russell cuz he has too damn many.

[miles berg]

Nice jab at Kobe.

[jlip]

guess rings only matter unless it's bill russell cuz he has too damn many.

This

[Doranku]

Sounds like the typical ISH poster. :lol

[Legends66NBA7]

Old news.

Wasn't this also posted on here ? Could have sworn it was.

[pauk]

Old news.

Wasn't this also posted on here ? Could have sworn it was.

Oh ok Legends, i scrolled through a couple of threads but couldnt find it, if it has been posted then admins can feel free deleting this thread and hopefully link me to that other thread.

[pauk]

guess rings only matter unless it's bill russell cuz he has too damn many.

Hehe yep... Russell is kindof a partypooper in that department... :)

[Marchesk]

Russell > Hondo > Horry > Kareem > Kobe > Duncan > Bird > Lebron > Dirk > Barkley

Makes sense to me. :confusedshrug:

[pauk]

Russell > Hondo > Horry > Kareem > Kobe > Duncan > Bird > Lebron > Dirk > Barkley

Makes sense to me. :confusedshrug:

1. Bill Russell - 11
2. Sam Jones - 10
3. John Havlicek - 8
4. Tom Heinsohn - 8
5. KC Jones - 8
6. Tom Sanders - 8
7. Jim Loscutoff - 7
8. Frank Ramsey - 7
9. Robert Horry - 7
10. Bob Cousy - 6

:cheers:

Funny thing is most of these players got all those rings playing with Bill Russell / 60s Celtics. So not only did Russell produce most rings for himself... but for others aswell.... now that is a winner lol

[raprap]

Kobe snubbed

[Legends66NBA7]

Oh ok Legends, i scrolled through a couple of threads but couldnt find it, if it has been posted then admins can feel free deleting this thread and hopefully link me to that other thread.

Nah, I think might have been another site, not ISH.

Carry on, although I've just never really taken Magic's words as much to think about. He's a nice man, but doesn't really think things through.

[Flash31]

EVEN IF HE Only means stars wELL mAGIC ISNT TOP 3 THEN EITHER

1-Bill Russell
2-Kareem Abdul-Jabaar
3-Michael Jordan

Since rings are all that matter to Magic when it's convenient
Magic STILL isn't even top 3


11
6
6
That beats 5 EVERY SIngle Time

[Scholar]

Russell > Hondo > Horry > Kareem > Fisher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe > Duncan > Bird > Lebron > Dirk > Barkley

Makes sense to me. :confusedshrug:

Fixed.

[hateraid]

What was Lebron's original tweet?

[Legends66NBA7]

What was Lebron's original tweet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQzh1-0jx8

Not exactly a tweet, but that's what Magic responded too.

[pauk]

What was Lebron's original tweet?

It was no tweet, it was a interview on TV last month, reporter asked him who he thinks are the 3 greatest players of all time, he said Jordan, Dr. J & Bird...


EDIT: Yea, take a look at that video provided above.

[pauk]

When i think about Magic probably just mentioned the rings of those 4 players Lebron did mention, he did pick Magic at #4 there at the end afterall.

I hope thats the case, if not... then he has discredited many greats (especially Russell, Kareem).

I dont like Lebrons top 3 either, dont know what he was thinking... i mean Dr. J at top 2? Hah.....

Meh, who cares, i blame off-season...

[Marchesk]

When i think about Magic probably just mentioned the rings of those 4 players Lebron did mention, he did pick Magic at #4 there at the end afterall.

I hope thats the case, if not... then he has discredited many greats (especially Russell, Kareem).

I dont like Lebrons top 3 either, dont know what he was thinking... i mean Dr. J at top 2? Hah.....

Meh, who cares, i blame off-season...

It's funny he didn't name a single big in his top 3.

[Marchesk]

1. Bill Russell - 11
2. Sam Jones - 10
3. John Havlicek - 8
4. Tom Heinsohn - 8
5. KC Jones - 8
6. Tom Sanders - 8
7. Jim Loscutoff - 7
8. Frank Ramsey - 7
9. Robert Horry - 7
10. Bob Cousy - 6

:cheers:

Funny thing is most of these players got all those rings playing with Bill Russell / 60s Celtics. So not only did Russell produce most rings for himself... but for others aswell.... now that is a winner lol

But not Horry.

Horry > every Celtic but Russell

[jlip]

But not Horry.

Horry > every Celtic but Russell

Horry greater than Hondo? :confusedshrug:

[hateraid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQzh1-0jx8

Not exactly a tweet, but that's what Magic responded too.

:cheers:

[Marchesk]

Horry greater than Hondo? :confusedshrug:

Maybe. 7 > 2 + 6*?

I'm not sure how Magic handles those scenarios.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Dr. J really has no case at all for top 3. But Magic really shoudn't b so butthurt. The guy played on disgustingly stacked teams his whole career.

[Marchesk]

Dr. J really has no case at all for top 3. But Magic really shoudn't b so butthurt. The guy played on disgustingly stacked teams his whole career.

You're right, Lebron should have mentioned Wilt instead.

[ralph_i_el]

Magic says some dumb shit

[scm5]

Nice jab at Kobe.

Not a jab at Kobe.

Lebron put MJ, Bird, and Dr. J as his Top 3 GOAT.

Magic responded, saying that rings are what matter and then gave the ring counts of himself, Lebron, and the 3 players Lebron mentioned as his Top 3.

[It's A VC3!!!]

If rings ar all that matter then Robert Horry>> Magic Johnson. And Bill Russell>>Everyone else.

[CelticBaller]

Wilt chamberlin is a sad zombie

[riseagainst]

love how everyone responds to the ring argument with "Horry > everyone". Typical.

If you guys have any common sense or logic, you'd know that Magic's talking about ring counts for all time great players. How the f(ck is Horry an all time great player?
:oldlol:

[HardwoodLegend]

LeBron was asked who the "Best 3" Players were. I don't know if his answer changes if he's asked who the "Greatest 3" are, but I think a distinction could be made between "Best" and "Greatest". Surely LeBron knows Magic's legacy is more illustrious than Dr. J's even though Dr. J may arguably be more talented.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

:confusedshrug: I don't see this as news worthy. Was expecting more when I came in the thread.

Some of you guys can make shit out of Clorox.

[jstern]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQzh1-0jx8

Not exactly a tweet, but that's what Magic responded too.

What I love about him picking Dr. J is that he obviously doesn't spend time on the internet on internet forums, else his picks would have been polluted.


Not a jab at Kobe.

Lebron put MJ, Bird, and Dr. J as his Top 3 GOAT.

Magic responded, saying that rings are what matter and then gave the ring counts of himself, Lebron, and the 3 players Lebron mentioned as his Top 3.

Good eye. Even I wasn't noticing that. He's talking about the people involved in the dumb controversy.

[HardwoodLegend]

:confusedshrug: I don't see this as news worthy. Was expecting more when I came in the thread.

Some of you guys can make shit out of Clorox.

It's somewhat newsworthy, but there had to have been a thread made on this when the story first broke.

[fpliii]

It makes some sense if LeBron was talking about non-bigs, since I'd imagine they're who he compares himself to/is compared to the most often. In that case, I don't see anything wrong with his top 4, if he's counting ABA=NBA (which was true when Dr. J played in the ABA, most likely) and ignoring bigs (you'd expect him to name Oscar too and maybe Kobe if he named two more players).

Shaq was the same way iirc. He always compares himself to the great centers (and PFs, since he's mentioned Duncan) we've seen. Not surprising, and it makes sense.

[kNicKz]

Pauk called Magic Johnson a ring chaser by being drafted by the Lakers

[Nash]

Lebron actually said that Magic was nr 4.

[TheMan]

Come on, let's get serious. I respect Bill Russell and all he accomplished but you guys believe those 60's Celtics would beat any of the modern era champions? Heinsohn, Cousy wouldn't even be starters nowadays:oldlol:

Russell's 11 rings have about the same weight of a threepeat today, IMO.

[fpliii]

Russell's 11 rings have about the same weight of a threepeat today, IMO.

:facepalm

C'mon man.

[TheMan]

:facepalm

C'mon man.
Dude, the NBA was garbage back then compared to the modern era. Can you imagine Gary Payton on Bob Cousy:oldlol: Shaq would destroy Russell, no joke.

[Legends66NBA7]

Come on, let's get serious. I respect Bill Russell and all he accomplished but you guys believe those 60's Celtics would beat any of the modern era champions? Heinsohn, Cousy wouldn't even be starters nowadays:oldlol:

Russell's 11 rings have about the same weight of a threepeat today, IMO.

Yeah, there's nothing serious were going to discuss.

[Legends66NBA7]

Dude, the NBA was garbage back then compared to the modern era. Can you imagine Gary Payton on Bob Cousy:oldlol: Shaq would destroy Russell, no joke.

When did the modern era start for you ?

[zoom17]

Dude, the NBA was garbage back then compared to the modern era. Can you imagine Gary Payton on Bob Cousy:oldlol: Shaq would destroy Russell, no joke.

:facepalm

[TheMan]

When did the modern era start for you ?
When inferior white basketball players didn't take black players spot because of racism...maybe early 70's? I wasn't around back then but if you watch hoops from that era, looks really goofy.

Admit it.

[kNicKz]

When inferior white basketball players didn't take black players spot because of racism...maybe early 70's? I wasn't around back then but if you watch hoops from that era, looks really goofy.

Admit it.

Jerry West would be a top SG today

[Legends66NBA7]

When inferior white basketball players didn't take black players spot because of racism...maybe early 70's? I wasn't around back then but if you watch hoops from that era, looks really goofy.

Admit it.

I think the race barrier stopped around the mid-50's ? Would have to look more into it, but black players were prominent throughout the 60's-present period.

Although, that didn't stop guys like Wilt, Russell, and so on to continue to get racism when they played. Their houses even got vandalised by fans of their respective teams. It was tough playing during those times because they weren't as accessible to transport, the best resources for weight training, nutrition, etc...

I've said in the past that players would have to be born in certain eras to get the same resources and advantages today's or the "modern era" (I say it starts with the inception of the 3 point line) to be able to compete. Vice-versa, the modern era athletes wouldn't have the advantages of the past athletes and have to face different public perception in those days too.

The goofy looking parts, part of that has to do with the rules. Couldn't palm the same way like they do currently. I don't know how many players were ambidextrous either. I've never really laughed at it, though, since I know it's still basketball in it's earlier stages and developing. Didn't necessarily mean it was terrible basketball, just not something were used to seeing.

[Legends66NBA7]

Jerry West would be a top SG today

With today's advantages, yes. Would be a great PG if he wanted to be more pass-first too.

[TheMan]

Jerry West would be a top SG today
So Bob Cousy and Jerry West are the same dude?:confusedshrug:

[pauk]

Pauk called Magic Johnson a ring chaser by being drafted by the Lakers

Not really, just used him as an example in context when you called Lebron a ring chaser and that Magic would never do what Lebron did.... when infact Magic actually did it before even setting foot in the NBA by demanding to play with Kareem/Lakers or else he would postpone his NBA career (its a very accurate story), the reason for that is quite clear.... have nothing against that at all and have all the respect in the world for Magic, its you have something against it, i just used him and many other greats as an example in comparasant as i prefer more fair & impartial assumptions.... where as a Lebron cynic prefers the opposite which includes to deny everything that proves the cynic wrong....

[scm5]

LeBron was asked who the "Best 3" Players were. I don't know if his answer changes if he's asked who the "Greatest 3" are, but I think a distinction could be made between "Best" and "Greatest". Surely LeBron knows Magic's legacy is more illustrious than Dr. J's even though Dr. J may arguably be more talented.

Best 3 would have to include Shaq. He was so incredibly dominant.

[Legends66NBA7]

Not really, just used him as an example in context when you called Lebron a ring chaser and that Magic would never do what Lebron did.... when infact Magic actually did it before even setting foot in the NBA by demanding to play with Kareem/Lakers or else he would postpone his NBA career (its a very accurate story),

You said he's a ring chaser in the thread you made:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234582&pp=15

[Electric Slide]

It's just the 3 guys he wants to be like

MJ - wants to be the GOAT like him
Dr. J - wants his hair
Bird - wants his skin color

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Magic Johnson is a loveable, good human being. He is a nice person. Having said that - he has emotional issues and I suspect he has been diagnosed with some sort of mental illness.


The guy is prone to outbursts like this :

5 time champ On his knees like a dog on live TV begging a basketball player to come back to the NBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZZshnU1Qk


Magic is a great human being, but he's crazy.

[TheMan]

Magic Johnson is a loveable, good human being. He is a nice person. Having said that - he has emotional issues and I suspect he has been diagnosed with some sort of mental illness.


The guy is prone to outbursts like this :

5 time champ On his knees like a dog on live TV begging a basketball player to come back to the NBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZZshnU1Qk


Magic is a great human being, but he's crazy.
I don't what is more disturbing, Magic begging on camera or your nut ball reaction:oldlol:

[brownmamba00]

Nice jab at Kobe.
Kobe and Magic never reached out to eachother, they dont talk much. But Magic knows Lebron since he was a kid...they have been close since

that aint a problem tho for kobe. kobe's a G like that he ain't worried bout nuthin he gon get that 6th

[riseagainst]

I don't what is more disturbing, Magic begging on camera or your nut ball reaction:oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

[jlip]

Come on, let's get serious. I respect Bill Russell and all he accomplished but you guys believe those 60's Celtics would beat any of the modern era champions? Heinsohn, Cousy wouldn't even be starters nowadays:oldlol:

Russell's 11 rings have about the same weight of a threepeat today, IMO.


:facepalm

C'mon man.


Yeah, there's nothing serious were going to discuss.

This

[jlip]

When inferior white basketball players didn't take black players spot because of racism...maybe early 70's? I wasn't around back then but if you watch hoops from that era, looks really goofy.

Admit it.

The league was predominately Black by 1966. Russell's Celtics won titles in '66, '68, 'and '69. Heck...the '69 title was won without having home court in either series. So I guess according to the logic of the above post only those 3 titles count.

[MaxFly]

It was no tweet, it was a interview on TV last month, reporter asked him who he thinks are the 3 greatest players of all time, he said Jordan, Dr. J & Bird...


EDIT: Yea, take a look at that video provided above.

I hadn't seen this. No Kareem or Russel... wow

[Soundwave]

Magic Johnson is a loveable, good human being. He is a nice person. Having said that - he has emotional issues and I suspect he has been diagnosed with some sort of mental illness.


The guy is prone to outbursts like this :

5 time champ On his knees like a dog on live TV begging a basketball player to come back to the NBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZZshnU1Qk


Magic is a great human being, but he's crazy.

:lol :lol

Never seen that video before, Magic is kinda out there.

[TheBigVeto]

Magic is an emo bitch. He rode Kareem's coattails for 3 of his rings. If he wants to use ring argument, then Russell is first, then Jordan and Kareem tied, Magic is not in top 3 (and he is definitely NOT top 3 GOAT).

[b1imtf]

Magic Johnson is a loveable, good human being. He is a nice person. Having said that - he has emotional issues and I suspect he has been diagnosed with some sort of mental illness.


The guy is prone to outbursts like this :

5 time champ On his knees like a dog on live TV begging a basketball player to come back to the NBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZZshnU1Qk


Magic is a great human being, but he's crazy.
No wonder he got AIDS

[G-train]

Magic says some dumb shit

Worse than that - It wasn't live TV where anyone can let something slip.
It's a written comment that he truly believes.
Given that his championship destiny was decided by a coin flip between the Bulls and Lakers, it's a remarkably stupid comment.

[branslowski]

If someone post "Horry 7 rings" one more time...I swear..:facepalm

Just shows your lack of knowledge and basketball player context.

[Marchesk]

If someone post "Horry 7 rings" one more time...I swear..:facepalm

Just shows your lack of knowledge and basketball player context.

Frank Ramsey 7 rings > Ron Harper 5 rings :confusedshrug: