The "Domination" Of NBA Players At 2013 FIBA EuroBasket

[Euroleague]

The first stage of the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket is over.

1. On this site, 99% of all the members claim that any and every NBA player will "automatically totally dominate when playing against Euro scrubs".

He will "always average huge numbers and have gaudy stats when playing against Euro scrubs". Because, "the NBA is elite and vastly superior, and is where the big boys play, while European basketball is inferior, and where the minor league players play."

Other THEORIES from NBA only fans that run rampant in this forum are that,

2. "NBA players always have better numbers and higher averages when they play against Euro scrubs."

3. "NBA players always play more minutes in joke Euro scrub competitions, because it is easier to play more minutes when you have less competition for playing time."

4. "NBA players always average more points against Euro scrubs than they do in the NBA against elite competition."

5. "NBA players always shoot a higher field goal percentage against Euro scrubs than they do against elite NBA competition."

6. "NBA point guards always average more assists against Euro scrubs than they do against elite NBA competition."

7. "NBA big men always average more rebounds against Euro scrubs than they do against elite NBA competition."

8. "NBA players always have less turnovers when playing against the Euro scrubs that can't defend."

and of course............

9. "NBA players always automatically lead their teams to championships, as soon as they play against inferior minor league Euro scrubs."

or maybe the funniest one of all.........

10. "NBA players always shoot over 40 or 50 percent from behind the 3 point line when they play against Euro scrubs that use that high school distance 3 point line."

So now, these THEORIES from the NBA only fans get put to an ACTUAL test.

All the TROLLING and LIES get exposed with ACTUAL facts.

Not the "facts" that the pathological lying psychopathic trolls like gabepizza, KG215, Rooster, Dr.J4ever, Cavs_FTW, nick young, etc., talk about here.


As you will see, numerous NBA players led their teams to early first round tournament exits, and in the majority of cases, their numbers are pretty much lower than their NBA numbers.

Keep in mind that these numbers are for the FIRST round of the tournament, which is the LOWEST LEVEL OF COMPETITION AT THE TOURNAMENT.

NBA ONLY FAN MYTHS BUSTED.


NBA player's performances in 2013 FIBA EuroBasket:

[Euroleague]

Numbers in bold signify low shooting percentages, averages lower than their NBA numbers, higher turnover numbers than in the NBA, scrub amount of minutes played, or very low numbers for their position, if they have not played in the NBA yet.


1. Bosnia - Mirza Teletovic - PF

36.6 MPG

38.6 Field Goal %
34.9 3 Point Field Goal %
81.5 Free Throw %

21.0 Points Per Game
7.6 Rebounds Per Game
0.8 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
0.6 Blocks Per Game
2.0 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


2. Croatia - Jan Vesely - PF/C

32.2 MPG

59.7 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
35.5 Free Throw %

17.0 Points Per Game
11.2 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

1.8 Steals Per Game
0.6 Blocks Per Game
1.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


3. Macedonia - Pero Antic - PF/C

35.2 MPG

40.8 Field Goal %
31.0 3 Point Field Goal %
69.0 Free Throw %

13.8 Points Per Game
8.0 Rebounds Per Game
1.6 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


4. France - Nicolas Batum - SF

24.3 MPG

48.6 Field Goal %
20.0 3 Point Field Goal %
100.0 Free Throw %

10.8 Points Per Game
4.3 Rebounds Per Game
2.3 Assists Per Game

0.5 Steals Per Game
0.8 Blocks Per Game
1.3 Turnovers Per Game

Team lost to Germany, probably the worst team in the whole tournament. These stats are against the easiest group in the whole tournament, playing against a bunch of scrub teams.


5. France - Tony Parker - PG

27.0 MPG

57.9 Field Goal %
33.3 3 Point Field Goal %
73.3 Free Throw %

18.8 Points Per Game
2.0 Rebounds Per Game
4.8 Assists Per Game

0.6 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game

Team lost to Germany, probably the worst team in the whole tournament. These stats are against the easiest group in the whole tournament, playing against a bunch of scrub teams.


6. France - Nando de Colo - PG/SG

20.6 MPG

37.1 Field Goal %
52.9 3 Point Field Goal %
100.0 Free Throw %

7.6 Points Per Game
2.0 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

1.4 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
1.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team lost to Germany, probably the worst team in the whole tournament. These stats are against the easiest group in the whole tournament, playing against a bunch of scrub teams.


7. France - Boris Diaw - Point Forward

26.2 MPG

51.4 Field Goal %
28.6 3 Point Field Goal %
75.0 Free Throw %

9.2 Points Per Game
2.6 Rebounds Per Game
3.4 Assists Per Game

0.6 Steals Per Game
0.4 Blocks Per Game
2.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team lost to Germany, probably the worst team in the whole tournament. These stats are against the easiest group in the whole tournament, playing against a bunch of scrub teams.


8. Israel - Lior Eliyahu - SF/PF

28.6 MPG

48.3 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
37.5 Free Throw %

12.4 Points Per Game
7.8 Rebounds Per Game
2.6 Assists Per Game

1.0 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
1.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


9. Israel - Omri Casspi - SF

27.4 MPG

33.3 Field Goal %
27.8 3 Point Field Goal %
71.4 Free Throw %

11.4 Points Per Game
5.6 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

1.4 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
1.8 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


10. Italy - Marco Belinelli - SG

31.3 MPG

39.6 Field Goal %
38.9 3 Point Field Goal %
85.7 Free Throw %

15.8 Points Per Game
4.0 Rebounds Per Game
2.5 Assists Per Game

1.3 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
2.3 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game with home court advantage.


11. Italy - Luigi Datome - SF/PF

28.8 MPG

48.0 Field Goal %
35.0 3 Point Field Goal %
100.0 Free Throw %

12.2 Points Per Game
5.4 Rebounds Per Game
1.6 Assists Per Game

0.8 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
1.0 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game with home court advantage.


12. Lithuania - Donatas Motiejunas - PF

10.0 MPG

56.3 Field Goal %
50.0 3 Point Field Goal %
40.0 Free Throw %

4.4 Points Per Game
2.0 Rebounds Per Game
0.2 Assists Per Game

0.0 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
0.6 Turnovers Per Game


13. Lithuania - Jonas Valanciunas - C

19.4 MPG

63.2 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
75.0 Free Throw %

7.2 Points Per Game
6.0 Rebounds Per Game
0.0 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
1.2 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game



14. Montenegro - Nikola Vucevic - C

15.0 MPG

39.4 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
69.2 Free Throw %

7.0 Points Per Game
4.0 Rebounds Per Game
0.6 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
1.0 Blocks Per Game
1.0 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


15. Poland - Marcin Gortat - C

25.6 MPG

47.9 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
46.2 Free Throw %

10.4 Points Per Game
7.8 Rebounds Per Game
2.2 Assists Per Game

0.6 Steals Per Game
2.0 Blocks Per Game
1.8 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


16. Russia - Sergey Karasev - SG/SF

22.0 MPG

45.2 Field Goal %
33.3 3 Point Field Goal %
100.0 Free Throw %

9.5 Points Per Game
4.3 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

0.8 Steals Per Game
1.0 Blocks Per Game
1.3 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


17. Russia - Aleksey Sved - PG/SG

30.0 MPG

46.5 Field Goal %
31.3 3 Point Field Goal %
68.8 Free Throw %

16.4 Points Per Game
2.6 Rebounds Per Game
4.8 Assists Per Game

0.6 Steals Per Game
0.8 Blocks Per Game
3.4 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.



18. Serbia - Nemanja Nedovic - PG/SG

27.4 MPG

37.8 Field Goal %
21.7 3 Point Field Goal %
61.1 Free Throw %

10.0 Points Per Game
2.8 Rebounds Per Game
3.0 Assists Per Game

1.4 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
1.4 Turnovers Per Game


19. Slovenia - Goran Dragic - PG

25.6 MPG

36.4 Field Goal %
15.0 3 Point Field Goal %
75.0 Free Throw %

13.8 Points Per Game
3.6 Rebounds Per Game
5.0 Assists Per Game

1.4 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game with home court advantage, and in a very easy group.



20. Spain - Jose Calderon - PG

20.6 MPG

46.9 Field Goal %
52.4 3 Point Field Goal %
100.0 Free Throw %

8.4 Points Per Game
1.8 Rebounds Per Game
3.0 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
0.4 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game in a very easy group.


21. Spain - Ricky Rubio - PG

21.0 MPG

52.6 Field Goal %
60.0 3 Point Field Goal %
73.3 Free Throw %

10.8 Points Per Game
2.8 Rebounds Per Game
3.8 Assists Per Game

1.2 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
0.8 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game in a very easy group.


22. Spain - Victor Claver - SF/PF

15.4 MPG

29.4 Field Goal %
11.1 3 Point Field Goal %
50.0 Free Throw %

2.6 Points Per Game
3.8 Rebounds Per Game
0.8 Assists Per Game

0.4 Steals Per Game
0.4 Blocks Per Game
0.8 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game in a very easy group.


23. Spain - Marc Gasol - C

29.0 MPG

47.4 Field Goal %
33.3 3 Point Field Goal %
65.2 Free Throw %

10.4 Points Per Game
8.4 Rebounds Per Game
2.0 Assists Per Game

0.8 Steals Per Game
1.0 Blocks Per Game
2.4 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game in a very easy group.


24. Sweden - Jonas Jerebko - PF

28.8 MPG

41.9 Field Goal %
26.3 3 Point Field Goal %
79.3 Free Throw %

16.0 Points Per Game
6.8 Rebounds Per Game
2.4 Assists Per Game

1.0 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
3.4 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


25. Sweden - Jeffery Taylor - SG/SF

34.0 MPG

46.8 Field Goal %
42.3 3 Point Field Goal %
72.4 Free Throw %

21.2 Points Per Game
4.6 Rebounds Per Game
1.4 Assists Per Game

1.4 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
4.4 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


26. Turkey - Ersan Ilyasova - PF

26.6 MPG

44.8 Field Goal %
23.5 3 Point Field Goal %
45.5 Free Throw %

12.2 Points Per Game
5.0 Rebounds Per Game
0.8 Assists Per Game

1.4 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
2.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


27. Turkey - Omer Asik - C

17.0 MPG

62.5 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
60.0 Free Throw %

5.2 Points Per Game
4.4 Rebounds Per Game
0.2 Assists Per Game

0.6 Steals Per Game
0.4 Blocks Per Game
1.0 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.




28. Turkey - Hedo Turkoglu - SF

28.3 MPG

17.9 Field Goal %
33.3 3 Point Field Goal %
50.0 Free Throw %

7.3 Points Per Game
3.7 Rebounds Per Game
2.0 Assists Per Game

0.3 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
2.0 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.

[The JKidd Kid]

Bosnia - Mirza Teletovic

36.6 MPG

38.6 Field Goal %
34.9 3 Point Field Goal %
81.5 Free Throw %

21.0 Points Per Game
7.6 Rebounds Per Game
0.8 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
0.6 Blocks Per Game
2.0 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.

He's a scrubby peice of shit that wasnt even in the Nets rotation last season. I don't know why you would even want to use him as an argument.

[kNicKz]

http://www.rnw.nl/data/files/images/lead/2012/07/photo_1341815831506-1-0.jpg

[Trollsmasher]

Czech Republic - Jan Vesely

32.2 MPG

59.7 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
35.5 Free Throw %

17.0 Points Per Game
11.2 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

1.8 Steals Per Game
0.6 Blocks Per Game
1.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.
First: The fact that you are a ******* from Arkansas does not justify mistaking Czech Republic for Croatia:facepalm

Second: Why the **** are you pointing out 3 point shooting percentage while talking about freaking Vesely?:biggums:

Third: If you knew something about European basketball, you would have known that Czech Rep was the biggest outsider of the group. The odds of us winning over/under 1 game were 50/50. So pointing out that we were eliminated really does not make much sense:facepalm

Outside of FT% shooting, Vesely was the best player of the tournament. Going straight from NBA scrub to Eurobasket MVP:lol

[Andrew Wiggins]

didn't read

let's convert this to the new finland vs. greece thread

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BAC2F67C4-BA85-4C1F-B8E8-D02962D7E729%7Dflexible.jpg

rofl

vspan had 7 turnovers a finnish guy named koponen had 29 points

first nigeria now finland :biggums: :roll:



http://i.imgur.com/jJ3GciG.png
:cry: :eek: :roll: :lol

[Andrew Wiggins]

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BAC2F67C4-BA85-4C1F-B8E8-D02962D7E729%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BD2220567-AF23-4688-8B71-60156861439A%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B39C12CF9-6ADA-4695-94A5-8C19CA3D8D20%7Dflexible.jpg

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B0AAC5358-8D32-4AC6-96DE-F69C3D26F625%7Dflexible.jpg

[KobesFinger]

Who is Pero Antic?

[Unbiased_one]

Bosnia - Mirza Teletovic - PF

36.6 MPG

38.6 Field Goal %
34.9 3 Point Field Goal %
81.5 Free Throw %

21.0 Points Per Game
7.6 Rebounds Per Game
0.8 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
0.6 Blocks Per Game
2.0 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


Croatia - Jan Vesely - C

32.2 MPG

59.7 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
35.5 Free Throw %

17.0 Points Per Game
11.2 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

1.8 Steals Per Game
0.6 Blocks Per Game
1.2 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.


Macedonia - Pero Antic - PF

35.2 MPG

40.8 Field Goal %
31.0 3 Point Field Goal %
69.0 Free Throw %

13.8 Points Per Game
8.0 Rebounds Per Game
1.6 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
0.2 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game

Team eliminated in the first group stage.

Wait so teltovic who averages 4/2 in the nba averages 22/8 in Europe? ****ing hell it's worse than I thought. Thanks for pointing out how shit euro basketball is :)

[dr.hee]

So...we're talking about stats in this thread? Euroleague doesn't approve...


Another stats whore troll. As if gabepizza was not enough to deal with.


This ****ing clown does not even know that posting stat whore stats only geek posts is trolling?

He clearly has never in his life seen a Euroleague game, and then he calls someone else out claiming they did not.

What a freaking jackass.

YOU HAVE NEVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE SEEN A EUROLEAGUE GAME



So this is a really nice thread by Euroleague. Now he needs to exchange insults with himself to stay logically consistent:lol What a stat whore. Unbelievable.

[salwan]

Wait so teltovic who averages 4/2 in the nba averages 22/8 in Europe? ****ing hell it's worse than I thought. Thanks for pointing out how shit euro basketball is :)
:roll: :roll:

[CavaliersFTW]

The first stage of the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket is over.

In this site, 99% of all the members claim that any and every NBA player will "automatically totally dominate when playing against Euro scrubs".

So now, this THEORY from the NBA only fans gets put to an ACTUAL test.

All the TROLLING and LIES get exposed with ACTUAL facts.

Not the "facts" that the psychopathic trolls like gabepizza, KG215, Rooster, Dr.J4ever, Cavs_FTW, nick young, etc., talk about here.



NBA player's performances in 2013 FIBA EuroBasket:

Who exactly are you quoting? Link please?

[KyleKong]

Greece - 79

Nigeria - 80

USA - 156

Nigeria - 73

[Bobby13]

This thread:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/491569/20121001_gav_sn3_220.1349232723_standard_352.13492 33278.jpg
The real Kill Bill

http://photo.ekathimerini.com/kath/engs/img/SPORTS/2013/09/spanoulis_kotti_390_0909.jpg
The new Euroleague Ether...sorry Nigeria we will miss you

http://layupline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/normal_jan_vesely_1.jpg
A guy who has attempted two threes in his NBA career thus far is now a three-point specialist in Euroleague's eyes

[bdreason]

Eurobasket is like summer league for these guys. The main goal is to work on some skills and not get hurt.

[MP.Trey]

The first stage of the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket is over.

In this site, 99% of all the members claim that any and every NBA player will "automatically totally dominate when playing against Euro scrubs".

First of all, we're on the site. Not in it.

Second of all, nobody says that. Except when it's to anger you.

Didn't bother reading past this point.

[outbreak]

This threads hilarious. Most people here acknowledge that their two different leagues and some players do well in other leagues. Your actually blind to this yourself when you claim players are terrible who were decent but not great in Europe but fit in welk in the nba

[Rooster]

Tony Parker is shooting 70 percent inside the arc.:bowdown:

He is blitzing those slow as molasses unfit Euros.:roll: :roll:

[Rooster]

didn't read

let's convert this to the new finland vs. greece thread

http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BAC2F67C4-BA85-4C1F-B8E8-D02962D7E729%7Dflexible.jpg

rofl

vspan had 7 turnovers a finnish guy named koponen had 29 points

first nigeria now finland :biggums: :roll:


:roll:

VSpan is leading the tourney in his specialty stat.:oldlol:

Averaging 4.7 Turnovers a game:oldlol:

And Greece is 0-2 for the next round:oldlol:

Diamintidis was the better leader:rockon:

And Greece misses their American mercenary:cry:

Calathes .:oldlol:

[Haymaker]

Wait so teltovic who averages 4/2 in the nba averages 22/8 in Europe? ****ing hell it's worse than I thought. Thanks for pointing out how shit euro basketball is :)

I'll answer for Euroleague:

"NBA just bury Euro stars in the bench to make them look inferior and humiliate them. They did the same thing to Spanoulis :cry: "

[Lebowski]

If ya'll dont act nice he will page/twitter Kill Bill and you will regret it later!

Dont say I didnt warn you..

[ralph_i_el]

This is really sad. You post a tiny sample size of a bunch of Euro dudes who barely play in the NBA you think that makes European players look better?

You're using per game stats and comparing them to NBA stats when the NBA game is 20% longer.

JAN VESELY PUT UP 17pts 11reb IN THIS TOURNAMENT. He had 17 points in his first 7 games TOTAL last season for the Wizards. At one point he had 41 points and 41 fouls given. So why do the worst NBA players play well against the best European players?

[dr.hee]

Damn, look at the first two posts. Euroleague keeps adding player after player :biggums:

Again, in Euroleague's own words from the Eurobasket thread...


Another stats whore troll.


This ****ing clown does not even know that posting stat whore stats only geek posts is trolling?

:lol :lol :lol

[Bandito]

I'll answer for Euroleague:

"NBA just bury Euro stars in the bench to make them look inferior and humiliate them. They did the same thing to Spanoulis :cry: "
the nba have so much money they can humiliate random people from other countries:roll:

[dr.hee]

the nba have so much money they can humiliate random people from other countries:roll:

Well they can save their money, since Euroleague is doing it in this thread for free :lol

[Euroleague]

29. Ukraine - Viacheslav Kravtsov - C

17.8 MPG

45.7 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
80.0 Free Throw %

7.2 Points Per Game
4.0 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
2.0 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game in a very easy group.



29 current NBA players at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket, and the vast majority of them either played like complete scrubs and/or just put up meaningless stats on terribly bad teams that got eliminated early.

And a whole bunch of them are just flat out complete absolute SCRUBS at that European level.

[Jameerthefear]

the euroleague sucks

[Haymaker]

29. Ukraine - Viacheslav Kravtsov - C

17.8 MPG

45.7 Field Goal %
00.0 3 Point Field Goal %
80.0 Free Throw %

7.2 Points Per Game
4.0 Rebounds Per Game
1.0 Assists Per Game

0.2 Steals Per Game
2.0 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game

Playing every game in a very easy group.



29 current NBA players at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket, and the vast majority of them either played like complete scrubs and/or just put up meaningless stats on terribly bad teams that got eliminated early.

And a whole bunch of them are just flat out complete absolute SCRUBS at that European level.

Mirza Teletovic...explain. He used to beast in Europe, he's warming bench in Brooklyn.

[Euroleague]

Mirza Teletovic...explain. He used to beast in Europe, he's warming bench in Brooklyn.

The world of the delusional NBA only fan, where shooting 39% from the field and getting eliminated in the first group stage is "beasting"...............

:rolleyes:

[Inferno]

What are V-Span's stats?

NVM...


Vassilis Spanoulis

25.7 mpg

50 Field Goal %
31.3 3 Point Field Goal %
71.4 Free Throw %

13.7 Points Per Game
2.0 Assists Per Game
1.3 Rebounds Per Game

1.3 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
4.7 Turnovers Per Game



Tony Parker

27.0 MPG

57.9 Field Goal %
33.3 3 Point Field Goal %
73.3 Free Throw %

18.8 Points Per Game
2.0 Rebounds Per Game
4.8 Assists Per Game

0.6 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
1.6 Turnovers Per Game


5 turnovers in 26 mpg :oldlol: 0 blocks just like Tony Parker :oldlol: His shooting is worse than Parker's in every category :oldlol:

[Trollsmasher]

I would take J-Ves over V-Span at PG at this tournament:lol

[dr.hee]

I would take J-Ves over V-Span at PG at this tournament:lol
More dunks, less turnovers. Also better hairline.

[Inferno]

Euroleague, can you explain V-Span's shitty stats?

[Trollsmasher]

More dunks, less turnovers. Also better hairline.
Better scorer (more efficient on higher volume)
Better rebounder
Better Assist to TO ratio
Overall much better defender
Much more athletic
Higher basketball IQ
Better leader (He can pump up the whole team and all the fans while V-Span just stays there, watching with his creepy eyes)

Simply a much better player

[wakencdukest]

29 current NBA players at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket, and the vast majority of them either played like complete scrubs and/or just put up meaningless stats on terribly bad teams that got eliminated early.

And a whole bunch of them are just flat out complete absolute SCRUBS at that European level.[/COLOR]


Generally, former NBA players in Europe are there because they can't make a team in the NBA. Don't even act like any of them were ever stars. They are third stringers who went to Europe as a last resort.

[KG215]

What are V-Span's stats?

NVM...


Vassilis Spanoulis

25.7 mpg

50 Field Goal %
31.3 3 Point Field Goal %
71.4 Free Throw %

13.7 Points Per Game
2.0 Assists Per Game
1.3 Rebounds Per Game

1.3 Steals Per Game
0.0 Blocks Per Game
4.7 Turnovers Per Game

:bowdown:

Best/third best player in the world, a point guard, committing more than two turnovers for every one assist!!

[wakencdukest]

Generally, former NBA players in Europe are there because they can't make a team in the NBA. Don't even act like any of them were ever stars. They are third stringers who went to Europe as a last resort.


Sorry everyone, I misread the title, I thought he was referring to Euroleague again and I was kind of tired of the same old arguments he makes.

[wakencdukest]

Could someone post their NBA stats side by side with the Eurobasket stats so we can see both sides of the argument?

[Cali Syndicate]

Euroleague is garbage. The poster, not the league.

[gabepizza]

I warned Spanoulis to retire so he wouldn't continue to embarrass his family and his nation but no he didn't listen. Now he has the ignominy of not only being an NBA scrub, of not only being on the first NT ever to be eliminated by an African team in a playoffs but not lose to #48 ranked Finland.
:cry:

Spanoulis has now earned a reputation as one of the biggest scrubs and chokers of all time.

[sportjames23]

After Greece got embarrassed by Finland, I didn't think Euroleague would show his face here for a few days.

But this fool shows up with a tl;dr post. :facepalm

[Euroleague]

Generally, former NBA players in Europe are there because they can't make a team in the NBA. Don't even act like any of them were ever stars. They are third stringers who went to Europe as a last resort.

STOP. DOING. DRUGS.

[Euroleague]

Could someone post their NBA stats side by side with the Eurobasket stats so we can see both sides of the argument?

The numbers in bold are LOWER than their NBA stats.

[wakencdukest]

The numbers in bold are LOWER than their NBA stats.


So basically their shooting and free throw percentages went down. How far off is it from their NBA percentages? Did you take into account that most of them are playing 30-35 mpg and taking a lot more shots than they did in the NBA, with the exception of Gortat, Batum, Calderon and Parker who played less? And, what does a lower free throw percentage have to do with anything at all? Could it be some of these veteran players are just out of sync from playing NBA ball for so long and just need to get a few more games under their belts to get comfortable? I would think going to a different team and playing by different rules would take some getting used to, even if you played with that team a few years ago. Do their Coaches give them the freedom to play the position like they do in the NBA? Or, are they utilized differently? I need some clear cut answers on this subject, because you seem pretty biased.

[outbreak]

So basically their shooting and free throw percentages went down. How far off is it from their NBA percentages? Did you take into account that most of them are playing 30-35 mpg and taking a lot more shots than they did in the NBA, with the exception of Gortat, Batum, Calderon and Parker who played less? And, what does a lower free throw percentage have to do with anything at all? Could it be some of these veteran players are just out of sync from playing NBA ball for so long and just need to get a few more games under their belts to get comfortable? I would think going to a different team and playing by different rules would take some getting used to, even if you played with that team a few years ago. Do their Coaches give them the freedom to play the position like they do in the NBA? Or, are they utilized differently? I need some clear cut answers on this subject, because you seem pretty biased.
some NBA guys also use their national teams and euro teams to work on specific aspects of their games they don't get to highlight in the nba as well

[wakencdukest]

Just going over the stats and the thing that jumped out at me was, the players that played heavy minutes in the NBA; Gortat, Parker, Dragic,Turk, Rubio, etc. all played alot fewer minutes, and they are the ones who's scoring, rebounding, and assists went down, while their percentages didn't. Wouldn't that be attributed to just playing less? The lesser players who played hardly any minutes in the NBA, played way more in Eurobasket, and their shooting percentages went down. Now, couldn't that be attributed to playing a lot more minutes and shooting more?

[CavaliersFTW]

Just going over the stats and the thing that jumped out at me was, the players that played heavy minutes in the NBA; Gortat, Parker, Dragic,Turk, Rubio, etc. all played alot fewer minutes, and they are the ones who's scoring, rebounding, and assists went down, while their percentages didn't. Wouldn't that be attributed to just playing less? The lesser players who played hardly any minutes in the NBA, played way more in Eurobasket, and their shooting percentages went down. Now, couldn't that be attributed to playing a lot more minutes and shooting more?
:biggums: :lol :oldlol: :roll: :banghead: :hammerhead: IT IS BECAUSE NBA PLAYERS ARE INFERIOR TO THE SUPERIOR EUROLEAGUE PLAYERS YOU PSYCHOTIC RACIST LUNATIC

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rwro8doozUw/T755eP-AslI/AAAAAAAABPU/nCWLy9hg7Dg/s1600/triple-h-angry.gif

PISS OFF!

[Inferno]

:biggums: :lol :oldlol: :roll: :banghead: :hammerhead: IT IS BECAUSE NBA PLAYERS ARE INFERIOR TO THE SUPERIOR EUROLEAGUE PLAYERS YOU PSYCHOTIC RACIST LUNATIC

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rwro8doozUw/T755eP-AslI/AAAAAAAABPU/nCWLy9hg7Dg/s1600/triple-h-angry.gif

PISS OFF!

:roll:

[SpurrDurr]

This guy grasping at straws, he's using Rubio RPG or small fowards BPG to discredit NBA players while Vasilis Tournovilis is sinking his own team.

He's a scrub in Europe right now and he's getting old, time to pack and move to China.

[wakencdukest]

:biggums: :lol :oldlol: :roll: :banghead: :hammerhead: IT IS BECAUSE NBA PLAYERS ARE INFERIOR TO THE SUPERIOR EUROLEAGUE PLAYERS YOU PSYCHOTIC RACIST LUNATIC

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rwro8doozUw/T755eP-AslI/AAAAAAAABPU/nCWLy9hg7Dg/s1600/triple-h-angry.gif

PISS OFF!



Sorry, I now realize my line of questioning was totally racist. I love the European race and will commit myself to community service deep in the Ozarks repairing outhouses, stills, trailers, and what not. When that is finished, I will get together with Euro league and watch his extensive collection of Euro league games on vhs. Only then will I be truly knowledgeable about basketball and race relations.

[Euroleague]

Sorry, I now realize my line of questioning was totally racist. I love the European race and will commit myself to community service deep in the Ozarks repairing outhouses, stills, trailers, and what not. When that is finished, I will get together with Euro league and watch his extensive collection of Euro league games on vhs. Only then will I be truly knowledgeable about basketball and race relations.

Yet another troll, that was pretending to not be a troll, gets exposed.

[CavaliersFTW]

Yet another troll, that was pretending to not be a troll, gets exposed.
Yeah, looks like its me an you vs the world comrade, these clinical psycho "NBA only" lunatics haven't got a ****ing clue about basketball. I've seen the light now, the Euroleague is superior! :cheers: