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Euroleague

09-18-2013, 08:59 PM

What a liar!!!!!
http://encestando.es/el-galatasaray-no-tiene-dinero-para-fichar-a-spanoulis-y-la-puja-por-el-base-se-reduce-a-barca-y-cska/

It says here that the coach already having Arroyo wanted to pair him with VSpan because he knows that Vspan can score but he sucks as a Point Guard. But because of money couldn't have Arroyo and Vspan on the same team.

BOOM Facts!!! Euroleague has been proven to be a liar people. Spread the news!!!!!!

:rockon: :rockon:

:roll:

1. He's the coach of the team and of Arroyo. Do you actually think he is not going to change what he said and pretend he wanted Arroyo in the team after Spanoulis would not sign?

2. Arroyo isn't a PG idiot. He's a midget SG and everyone that's ever seen him play knows that.

3. Galatsaray offered Spanoulis a lot more money than Olympiacos did. So it has nothing to do with money idiot

As has already been said to you several times by both me and Fiba, Gala has one of the bigger budgets in Europe.

BOOM - you are a dumb ass.

It's pathetic that you STILL can't even figure out that Arroyo is playing Spanoulis in Euroleague.

You are one of these epic level NBA only fans like gabepizza, that does not even know EuroBasket and Euroleague are two different things. You are either like 10 years old, or you are retarded.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 05:07 AM

1. He's the coach of the team and of Arroyo. Do you actually think he is not going to change what he said and pretend he wanted Arroyo in the team after Spanoulis would not sign?

2. Arroyo isn't a PG idiot. He's a midget SG and everyone that's ever seen him play knows that.

3. Galatsaray offered Spanoulis a lot more money than Olympiacos did. So it has nothing to do with money idiot

As has already been said to you several times by both me and Fiba, Gala has one of the bigger budgets in Europe.

BOOM - you are a dumb ass.

It's pathetic that you STILL can't even figure out that Arroyo is playing Spanoulis in Euroleague.

You are one of these epic level NBA only fans like gabepizza, that does not even know EuroBasket and Euroleague are two different things. You are either like 10 years old, or you are retarded.
1. Arroyo is an PG and he played that for PR
2. They (the team and the coach) wanted to pair him with VSpan but they didn't have enough money, it say so on the article, stop making stuff up. I presented the fact you didn't.
3. They do have a big budget but how big is their bank account? And is there a salary cap on Euroleague? if there is it makes sense they couldn't sign him.

Either way I am following what it say on the article, not some ignorant about the league like you. 100% sure you don't even watch it and you only watch stats. You are a undercover Lebron stan trying to get views. You are probably RG or somebody like that...

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:18 AM

1. Arroyo is an PG and he played that for PR
2. They (the team and the coach) wanted to pair him with VSpan but they didn't have enough money, it say so on the article, stop making stuff up. I presented the fact you didn't.
3. They do have a big budget but how big is their bank account? And is there a salary cap on Euroleague? if there is it makes sense they couldn't sign him.

Either way I am following what it say on the article, not some ignorant about the league like you. 100% sure you don't even watch it and you only watch stats. You are a undercover Lebron stan trying to get views. You are probably RG or somebody like that...

Arroyo is a SG.

lol at "how is their bank account".................MY GOD

Freaking damn Galatasaray....................

Haymaker

09-19-2013, 11:47 AM

Arroyo is a SG.

lol at "how is their ban account".................MY GOD

Freaking damn Galatasaray....................

Arroyo is no SG, damn you're dense :facepalm

aj1987

09-19-2013, 01:27 PM

Arroyo is a SG.

lol at "how is their ban account".................MY GOD

Freaking damn Galatasaray....................
http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Carlos_Arroyo/Galatasaray_Medical_Park_Istanbul/30678

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/home/transactions/eurocup-2012-13/i/106459/7363/galatasaray-tabs-point-guard-arroyo

dr.hee

09-19-2013, 01:56 PM

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Carlos_Arroyo/Galatasaray_Medical_Park_Istanbul/30678

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/home/transactions/eurocup-2012-13/i/106459/7363/galatasaray-tabs-point-guard-arroyo

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Sakkreth

09-19-2013, 02:04 PM

Arroyo plays pg, but he's shit at that.

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 02:50 PM

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I've never once seen Arroyo used as a point guard on offense in any team he played on. He's always used as a shooting guard on offense.

It's common knowledge to any casual NBA fan that Arroyo is a pure chucker.

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09-19-2013, 06:07 PM

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:01 PM

Arroyo plays pg, but he's shit at that.
WHen he decides to play PG he's really good but he has the mentality of a chucker.:facepalm

He has this great talent to find the open man and make really crazy but good passes but for some reason he thinks he is MJ and chuck it.:facepalm

He makes me so mad sometimes...he could be so great but fame went to his head.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:02 PM

I've never once seen Arroyo used as a point guard on offense in any team he played on. He's always used as a shooting guard on offense.

It's common knowledge to any casual NBA fan that Arroyo is a pure chucker.
He plays PG for the PR national team and on all his NBA teams too. But yes he is a chucker. I don't know why though he could be so great if he had the mentality of Nash as he is a really great passer.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:05 PM

Arroyo is a SG.

lol at "how is their bank account".................MY GOD

Freaking damn Galatasaray....................
He is a SG with Galatasaray but with PR he is a PG my bad bro:facepalm

The point is with V-Span he would probably play PG at times, like he does with the PR team with Barea.

Because both players can play off ball they can just choose who's going to handle the ball at times. That could've been magic...V-Span is a good passer when he slashes.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:08 PM

Arroyo is no SG, damn you're dense :facepalm
He's an SG in Euroleague but not in the NBA or the PR national team. He's like 6'2'' and that's an average height for an SG in Euroleague if I am not mistaken. He actually plays the role of like a Kobe on the Lakers. Is just that in Euroleague is not like the NBA where you only play a role, you have to play all the roles because they pass the ball a lot. So a center or PF can make a lot of passes of the block and sometimes make plays because of the way they play. THat is why Euroleague sometimes looks faster than the NBA even though players do not tend to be as athletic.

Euroleague fans can correct me if I am wrong.

PS: Holy crap Quadruple post :roll:

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:33 PM

He played point in Utah and a bit in Orlando. Yeah he's not a good player or a pass first player but he still ran the point and if I recall he had a few seasons averaging 5-6 assists a game didn't he?

You are right, he played as a PG in Utah. I don't think he did in any other team.

Arroyo is one of the biggest chuckers in basketball history. He's not a PG. I disagree though that you say he's not a good player.

He's a good player, it's just that he is chucker and he seems to have some kind of serious attitude problem. He must be an extremely difficult to coach player.

But he has always been a very capable scorer.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:35 PM

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09-19-2013, 08:35 PM

He's an SG in Euroleague but not in the NBA or the PR national team. He's like 6'2'' and that's an average height for an SG in Euroleague if I am not mistaken. He actually plays the role of like a Kobe on the Lakers. Is just that in Euroleague is not like the NBA where you only play a role, you have to play all the roles because they pass the ball a lot. So a center or PF can make a lot of passes of the block and sometimes make plays because of the way they play. THat is why Euroleague sometimes looks faster than the NBA even though players do not tend to be as athletic.

Euroleague fans can correct me if I am wrong.

PS: Holy crap Quadruple post :roll:

I agree with that, to succeed in euroleague pretty much all positions need to have good fundamentals and be able to pass, this is another big difference that can cause some NBA players to struggle over there, a lot of the NBA's bigs wouldn't fit in to teams system as they can't pass and move as well as euroleague systems generally require.

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:36 PM

He's an SG in Euroleague but not in the NBA or the PR national team. He's like 6'2'' and that's an average height for an SG in Euroleague if I am not mistaken. He actually plays the role of like a Kobe on the Lakers. Is just that in Euroleague is not like the NBA where you only play a role, you have to play all the roles because they pass the ball a lot. So a center or PF can make a lot of passes of the block and sometimes make plays because of the way they play. THat is why Euroleague sometimes looks faster than the NBA even though players do not tend to be as athletic.

Euroleague fans can correct me if I am wrong.

PS: Holy crap Quadruple post :roll:

Yes, you are mistaken. Euroleague players are taller than NBA players on average, especially at the guard position.

Rubio is considered a huge guard in NBA, and he's average or small even for Euroleague. Arroyo plays as PG in Galatasaray on defense. I am talking about offense. He is always playing with the offense to score, and he is not a pick and roll type of guy.

He is looking to shoot the ball off a screen or go one to one. He's not used as a PG in offense. Bringing the ball up the floor does not mean you are a point guard. It's how you are used in the offensive sets.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:37 PM

I agree with that, to succeed in euroleague pretty much all positions need to have good fundamentals and be able to pass, this is another big difference that can cause some NBA players to struggle over there, a lot of the NBA's bigs wouldn't fit in to teams system as they can't pass and move as well as euroleague systems generally require.
That's why when one does, I don't know why NBA teams don't try to sign one of them and try them on the L. Imagine a Dwight with a couple of years of Euroleague experience. Maybe he would depend so much on the post game and try to do different things with the ball.

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09-19-2013, 08:37 PM

You are right, he played as a PG in Utah. I don't think he did in any other team.

Arroyo is one of the biggest chuckers in basketball history. He's not a PG. I disagree though that you say he's not a good player.

He's a good player, it's just that he is chucker and he seems to have some kind of serious attitude problem. He must be an extremely difficult to coach player.

But he has always been a very capable scorer.

I'll admit I've never seen him play in the euroleague at all, in the NBA he seemed like a decent back up guy from what I'd seen of him, to be honest though I didn't see to much of him in his earlier years. But I know what you mean with his positioning, it's similar to how guys like Patty Mills is more of a little 2 guard chucker for australia but in the NBA he's forced to run the ball more like Arroyo did in the NBA (although arroyo is a much better play making PG than Mills).

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:38 PM

Yes, you are mistaken. Euroleague players are taller than NBA players on average, especially at the guard position.

Rubio is considered a huge guard in NBA, and he's average or small even for Euroelague.
http://www.statcrunch.com/5.0/viewreport.php?reportid=28650

It says the contrary here.

He is looking to shoot the ball off a screen or go one to one. He's not used as a PG in offense. Bringing the ball up the floor does not mean you are a point guard. It's how you are used in the offensive sets.

I agree that is why I said he's not an PG on Euroleague. On the PR national team he play both PG and SG. They use Barea and him as a double headed hydra if you want to call it ithat. barea sometimes is the PG (he plays like Iverson, slash and makes the pass) but Arroyo sets plays and make them. When one is being the playmaker the other is playing SG. It works perfectly on the national team.

I'll admit I've never seen him play in the euroleague at all, in the NBA he seemed like a decent back up guy from what I'd seen of him, to be honest though I didn't see to much of him in his earlier years. But I know what you mean with his positioning, it's similar to how guys like Patty Mills is more of a little 2 guard chucker for australia but in the NBA he's forced to run the ball more like Arroyo did in the NBA (although arroyo is a much better play making PG than Mills).
He played PG (starter or back up) for the Celtics, Raptors, Nuggets, Magic (backup), Detroit and Utah (starter).

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09-19-2013, 08:41 PM

That's why when one does, I don't know why NBA teams don't try to sign one of them and try them on the L. Imagine a Dwight with a couple of years of Euroleague experience. Maybe he would depend so much on the post game and try to do different things with the ball.

the Gasols are good examples of using euro league fundamentals in the NBA I always thought. From what I've seen I thought some of the euro league bigs lack the athleticism though as it's not stressed as much in their leagues as it is in the NBA. You can have great talent in the U.S.A but if you aren't a freakish athlete you'll be lucky to get any attention and will likely struggle in the league, in europe you don't have to be a freak athlete to find a role and be successful. Not saying one is harder or better then the other just that the leagues stress different skills and require different styles of play.

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:41 PM

He played PG @ Detroit, Celtics, Nuggets, Raptors and the HEat:facepalm

No he didn't. Bringing the ball up the floor, and handing it off to someone else isn't playing point guard. It's like saying Mario Chalmers is a point guard.

People say that, people call him that, he's listed as that, yet he has no point guard skills, and never ever plays as a PG in his team.

Arroyo is in same role in those teams. Guarding point guard on defense, but on offense just handing the ball of to another player, then standing around looking to shoot.

Arroyo's normal play is how he is used in Europe, guarding the one, then looking to score off a screen or go one to one.

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09-19-2013, 08:43 PM

No he didn't. Bringing the ball up the floor, and handing it off to someone else isn't playing point guard. It's like saying Mario Chalmers is a point guard.

People say that, people call him that, he's listed as that, yet he has no point guard skills, and never ever plays as a PG in his team.

Arroyo is in same role in those teams. Guarding point guard on defense, but on offense just handing the ball of to another player, then standing around looking to shoot.

Arroyo's normal play is how he is used in Europe, guarding the one, then looking to score off a screen or go one to one.

Your right in that's his go to game and I know what your saying but in the NBA I have seen him used as a play maker, sure it isn't what he's best at and isn't his natural game but he has been used like that in the NBA.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:45 PM

No he didn't. Bringing the ball up the floor, and handing it off to someone else isn't playing point guard. It's like saying Mario Chalmers is a point guard.

People say that, people call him that, he's listed as that, yet he has no point guard skills, and never ever plays as a PG in his team.

Arroyo is in same role in those teams. Guarding point guard on defense, but on offense just handing the ball of to another player, then standing around looking to shoot.

Arroyo's normal play is how he is used in Europe, guarding the one, then looking to score off a screen or go one to one.
He did play PG (as in set plays) for the Celtics, MAgic and Utah though...Never saw him on the Nuggs and the Raps.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:46 PM

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:46 PM

http://www.statcrunch.com/5.0/viewreport.php?reportid=28650

It says the contrary here.

I agree that is why I said he's not an PG on Euroleague. On the PR national team he play both PG and SG. They use Barea and him as a double headed hydra if you want to call it ithat. barea sometimes is the PG (he plays like Iverson, slash and makes the pass) but Arroyo sets plays and make them. When one is being the playmaker the other is playing SG. It works perfectly on the national team.

He played PG (starter or back up) for the Celtics, Raptors, Nuggets, Magic (backup), Detroit and Utah (starter).

Euroleague players are taller. Half the players in Euroleague are listed barefoot, and many of them are listed from the height they were at age 16.

In many cases, a guy listed at 6-8 in NBA is 6-6 or 6-7, and a guy listed at 6-8 in Euroleague is more like 6-10 by how the NBA counts height.

Euroleague players are without any question taller on average. Teams usually have several 6-10 and up guys, plus they usually have huge point guards.

Kidd would not even be considered big in Euroleague, and in NBA all they ever did was go on and on about how huge he was.

Bandito

09-19-2013, 08:47 PM

Euroleague players are taller. Half the players in Euroelague are listed barefoot, and many of them are listed from the height they were at age 16.

In many cases, a guy listed at 6-8 in NBA is 6-6 or 6-7, and a guy listed at 6-8 in Euroleague is more like 6-10 by how the NBA counts height.

Euroleague players are without any question taller on average. Teams usually have several 6-10 and up guys, plus they usually have huge point guards.

Kidd would not even be considered big in Euroleague, and in NBA all they ever did was go on and on about how huge he was.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because on the NBA they are listed with tennis shoes.

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:55 PM

the Gasols are good examples of using euro league fundamentals in the NBA I always thought. From what I've seen I thought some of the euro league bigs lack the athleticism though as it's not stressed as much in their leagues as it is in the NBA. You can have great talent in the U.S.A but if you aren't a freakish athlete you'll be lucky to get any attention and will likely struggle in the league, in europe you don't have to be a freak athlete to find a role and be successful. Not saying one is harder or better then the other just that the leagues stress different skills and require different styles of play.

This is more NBA myths. First of all, the NBA is loaded with stiffs and always has been. NBA is always loaded with zero athlete players. This nonsense that every NBA player is some super athlete is bullshit.

Second, in the Euroleague athletic ability is actually stressed MUCH MORE for big men than it is in the NBA.

In the NBA you don't have super super elite athletes at 6-7 to 6-9 with super long arms that can run like crazy and jump out of the building, guard on the perimeter, guard pick and roll well, etc. playing center.

Well, there was prime Ben Wallace.......the Euroleague is LOADED with such centers. Athletic ability at center position is greatly stressed in Euroleague and is seen as much more important than it is in the NBA.

You just throw out these NBA myths which are not true. A lot of Euroleague team coaches in fact will only use a super athletic guy at center.

It's very common for Euroleague teams to make it an absolute rule in their system that their center be the most freakish athlete they can find available in the world.

Athleticism is not stressed for other positions in Euroleague, but is stressed HUGE for center position.

NBA has more athletic wing players, but Euroleague has more athletic centers. Gasol brothers are borderline stiffs for most Euroleague coaches.

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 08:57 PM

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because on the NBA they are listed with tennis shoes.

Yeah, almost all NBA players have in shoes height. But I would say 50% AT LEAST of Euroleague players are listed barefoot.

That study obviously did not know that.

KobesFinger

09-19-2013, 09:06 PM

Loaded with centres with prime Ben Wallace level athleticism? Maybe 5 (including Big Ben himself) NBA Cs in the last 10 years have had that sort of athleticism, but the current EL has a bunch? Stop with the hyperbole

Euroleague

09-19-2013, 09:13 PM

KG215

09-19-2013, 09:20 PM

Well, there was prime Ben Wallace.......the Euroleague is LOADED with such centers. Athletic ability at center position is greatly stressed in Euroleague and is seen as much more important than it is in the NBA.
:oldlol:

I'm gonna call bullshit. Of course you're the same person who believes Spanoulis is quicker than Westbrook and Rose combined, and the only player in the world that might be more athletic than Spanoulis is LeBron. So you'll have to excuse me if I don't trust your ability to judge athleticism, because based on your posting history you're terrible at it.

CavaliersFTW

09-19-2013, 09:20 PM

Another moron.
^- mods please? He's not even making legitimate posts anymore now he just signs on for the sole purpose of insulting people.

dr.hee

09-19-2013, 09:24 PM

This is more NBA myths. First of all, the NBA is loaded with stiffs and always has been. NBA is always loaded with zero athlete players. This nonsense that every NBA player is some super athlete is bullshit.

Second, in the Euroleague athletic ability is actually stressed MUCH MORE for big men than it is in the NBA.

In the NBA you don't have super super elite athletes at 6-7 to 6-9 with super long arms that can run like crazy and jump out of the building, guard on the perimeter, guard pick and roll well, etc. playing center.

Well, there was prime Ben Wallace.......the Euroleague is LOADED with such centers. Athletic ability at center position is greatly stressed in Euroleague and is seen as much more important than it is in the NBA.

You just throw out these NBA myths which are not true. A lot of Euroleague team coaches in fact will only use a super athletic guy at center.

It's very common for Euroleague teams to make it an absolute rule in their system that their center be the most freakish athlete they can find available in the world.

Athleticism is not stressed for other positions in Euroleague, but is stressed HUGE for center position.

NBA has more athletic wing players, but Euroleague has more athletic centers. Gasol brothers are borderline stiffs for most Euroleague coaches.

Let's take Euroleague 2012/13...starting centers of all teams. Which of them would you consider freakish athletes superior to NBA players in terms of their physical tools? Which not?

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09-19-2013, 09:31 PM

This is more NBA myths. First of all, the NBA is loaded with stiffs and always has been. NBA is always loaded with zero athlete players. This nonsense that every NBA player is some super athlete is bullshit.

Second, in the Euroleague athletic ability is actually stressed MUCH MORE for big men than it is in the NBA.

In the NBA you don't have super super elite athletes at 6-7 to 6-9 with super long arms that can run like crazy and jump out of the building, guard on the perimeter, guard pick and roll well, etc. playing center.

Well, there was prime Ben Wallace.......the Euroleague is LOADED with such centers. Athletic ability at center position is greatly stressed in Euroleague and is seen as much more important than it is in the NBA.

You just throw out these NBA myths which are not true. A lot of Euroleague team coaches in fact will only use a super athletic guy at center.

It's very common for Euroleague teams to make it an absolute rule in their system that their center be the most freakish athlete they can find available in the world.

Athleticism is not stressed for other positions in Euroleague, but is stressed HUGE for center position.

NBA has more athletic wing players, but Euroleague has more athletic centers. Gasol brothers are borderline stiffs for most Euroleague coaches.

Might be some, the ones I'd seen were still athletic, I'm not saying their not athletic just that they weren't freakish athletes like a lot of the NBA big men are. some of the big men from the NBA really are freaky with how they can run and jump and control their bodies like they do for their size. Again though in the euroleague I don't see them being all that great at fitting in with a team as most of them can block shots and dunk with no post game, passing or dribbling as they don't need that in the NBA.

KG215

09-19-2013, 10:04 PM

Let's take Euroleague 2012/13...starting centers of all teams. Which of them would you consider freakish athletes superior to NBA players in terms of their physical tools? Which not?
He thinks Spanoulis is quicker than Rose and Westbrook combined and LeBron is the only other basketball player in the world who as athletic as Spanoulis. He's obviously a terrible judge of athleticism.

gabepizza

09-19-2013, 10:23 PM

This is more NBA myths. First of all, the NBA is loaded with stiffs and always has been. NBA is always loaded with zero athlete players. This nonsense that every NBA player is some super athlete is bullshit.

Second, in the Euroleague athletic ability is actually stressed MUCH MORE for big men than it is in the NBA.

In the NBA you don't have super super elite athletes at 6-7 to 6-9 with super long arms that can run like crazy and jump out of the building, guard on the perimeter, guard pick and roll well, etc. playing center.

Well, there was prime Ben Wallace.......the Euroleague is LOADED with such centers. Athletic ability at center position is greatly stressed in Euroleague and is seen as much more important than it is in the NBA.

You just throw out these NBA myths which are not true. A lot of Euroleague team coaches in fact will only use a super athletic guy at center.

It's very common for Euroleague teams to make it an absolute rule in their system that their center be the most freakish athlete they can find available in the world.

Athleticism is not stressed for other positions in Euroleague, but is stressed HUGE for center position.

NBA has more athletic wing players, but Euroleague has more athletic centers. Gasol brothers are borderline stiffs for most Euroleague coaches.

Total BS. The Euroleague centers are slow and stiff. The 2X first team Euroleague center is Krstic. Remember that slow stiff from the Nets? He just got totally shut down by Marc Gasol in Spain's 30 point beating of Serbia. And one of Euroleague favorite center Bourousis looked like he was playing in quicksand in Eurobasket. He gets dominated by NBA scrubs like Ike Diogu. There is a reason why European bigs are stereo typed as slow, soft and stiff...because most of them are.

CavaliersFTW

09-19-2013, 11:08 PM

Total BS. The Euroleague centers are slow and stiff. The 2X first team Euroleague center is Krstic. Remember that slow stiff from the Nets? He just got totally shut down by Marc Gasol in Spain's 30 point beating of Serbia. And one of Euroleague favorite center Bourousis looked like he was playing in quicksand in Eurobasket. He gets dominated by NBA scrubs like Ike Diogu. There is a reason why European bigs are stereo typed as slow, soft and stiff...because most of them are.
:roll: so true though :applause:

I remember watching Greece vs the Cavaliers in pre-season '09 and 40 year old Shaq played against prime 'Baby Shaq' (Schortsanitis) and absolutely DOMINATED him. Not only was 'baby shaq' slow, but he was also much much smaller than Greece billed him to be. They listed him like 6-10 and 300, but he looked about 6-7, he was dwarfed by the real Shaq. Very unskilled too, all he could do was attempt to camp in the paint and hope people bounced off him but Shaq just moved him around like a ragdoll which he wasn't used too so he looked visibly shook and helpless. NBA players will do that too you if you've been brought up in an inferior basketball system I guess :confusedshrug:

Le Shaqtus

09-19-2013, 11:30 PM

Euroleague is the worst troll on this board, his poor lack of knowledge of basketball is supplemented by his delusional and outlandish statements.

SpanishACB

09-20-2013, 04:24 AM

:roll: so true though :applause:

I remember watching Greece vs the Cavaliers in pre-season '09 and 40 year old Shaq played against prime 'Baby Shaq' (Schortsanitis) and absolutely DOMINATED him. Not only was 'baby shaq' slow, but he was also much much smaller than Greece billed him to be. They listed him like 6-10 and 300, but he looked about 6-7, he was dwarfed by the real Shaq. Very unskilled too, all he could do was attempt to camp in the paint and hope people bounced off him but Shaq just moved him around like a ragdoll which he wasn't used too so he looked visibly shook and helpless. NBA players will do that too you if you've been brought up in an inferior basketball system I guess :confusedshrug:

your comments are a bit unfair... shorts was called that way because he was fat, black and a center, not because he dominated like O'neal.
And yes, he was owned by diesel but then again same can be said for most NBA centers.

shortanidis was also never considered amongst the elite in euroleague, he was a just a good starter (on some seasons) that managed to put up big games but mostly due to the teams he played in.

Doranku

09-20-2013, 04:28 AM