I Was Looking Over the Contending Teams in the NBA

[SilkkTheShocker]

And in every scenario I couldn't see them beating the 2014 Heat.

West:
Clippers- Too soft and lack of dynamic wing players
Thunder- Bench sucks balls and so does their coach
Spurs- Played almost perfect and had a ton of ref help and still lost to Miami
Rockets - Still missing a piece
Warriors- They got a nice core, but not ready imo.

East:
Bulls- Their best player is mentally weak. Couldn't even beat the 2011 Heat with no bench.
Pacers- Best chance of beating Miami, but it's not going to happen.
Nets- Old and no team with Deron Williams on it will win a title.

I really don't see how anyone could take the field this year over Miami. LeBron is still LeBron, they added a Oden and another bench scorer, and if Wade is even close to healthy they might win 70 games. Looking forward to the three peat.

[dr.hee]

:applause:

Your predictions are based on very objective observations, such as "too soft", "not ready imo", "best player is mentally weak", and the best of them all, "not going to happen". You clearly know what you're talking about and should coach at least 5 NBA teams at the same time next season. Your basketball knowledge would make the league a better place for sure.

[alec613]

:applause:

Your predictions are based on very objective observations, such as "too soft", "not ready imo", "best player is mentally weak", and the best of them all, "not going to happen". You clearly know what you're talking about and should coach at least 5 NBA teams at the same time next season. Your basketball knowledge would make the league a better place for sure.

I agree, and he should quit ISH while he's at it. They won't discover his talents if he just he spends his life in ISH

[aj1987]

The Bulls and the Pacers have a legitimate chance to beat the Heat. Rose will provide the scoring that the Bulls need. Jimmy Butler can sweat Lebron on the defensive end. Unless Wade stays healthy or Lebron goes ham, the Bulls do have a legitimate chance of beating the Heat.

I don't see any other team doing it.

[dr.hee]

I agree, and he should quit ISH while he's at it. They won't discover his talents if he just he spends his life on ISH

True. On the other hand, while 9,500 posts on ISH look impressive on any CV for sure, he should stay till next weekend, so he can make it to 10,000 :applause:

[riseagainst]

And in every scenario I couldn't see them beating the 2014 Heat.

West:
Clippers- Too soft and lack of dynamic wing players
Thunder- Bench sucks balls and so does their coach
Spurs- Played almost perfect and had a ton of ref help and still lost to Miami
Rockets - Still missing a piece
Warriors- They got a nice core, but not ready imo.

East:
Bulls- Their best player is mentally weak. Couldn't even beat the 2011 Heat with no bench.
Pacers- Best chance of beating Miami, but it's not going to happen.
Nets- Old and no team with Deron Williams on it will win a title.

I really don't see how anyone could take the field this year over Miami. LeBron is still LeBron, they added a Oden and another bench scorer, and if Wade is even close to healthy they might win 70 games. Looking forward to the three peat.

I can't wait to bump all the threads you make about the "Heat" after Lebron leaves Miami in 2014 and when you start to cheer for another team.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I can't wait to bump all the threads you make about the "Heat" after Lebron leaves Miami in 2014 and when you start to cheer for another team.

Im glad im able to have such an effect on your personal life. :applause:

[SilkkTheShocker]

The Bulls and the Pacers have a legitimate chance to beat the Heat. Rose will provide the scoring that the Bulls need. Jimmy Butler can sweat Lebron on the defensive end. Unless Wade stays healthy or Lebron goes ham, the Bulls do have a legitimate chance of beating the Heat.

I don't see any other team doing it.

Not buying the Bulls.

[riseagainst]

Im glad im able to have such an effect on your personal life. :applause:

because I'm a huge fan.

[Le Shaqtus]

Only team I see doing it are the Pacers, if George becomes better than he did last season and they keep Granger, I think they can pull it off.

Obviously they have to play ridiculously well, we're talking about trying to break up a Heat dynasty here. It's not gonna be an easy feat.

[NumberSix]

Miami is the #1 team in the NBA. Indiana is #2. The rest don't matter.

[SilkkTheShocker]

:applause:

Your predictions are based on very objective observations, such as "too soft", "not ready imo", "best player is mentally weak", and the best of them all, "not going to happen". You clearly know what you're talking about and should coach at least 5 NBA teams at the same time next season. Your basketball knowledge would make the league a better place for sure.

I take pride in my work.

[Hoopz2332]

Miami is the #1 team in the NBA. Indiana is #2. The rest don't matter.


this:applause:

[HylianNightmare]

pacers, and bulls out east
Memphis in the West

MAYBE Nets, Spurs, Clippers

[Bandito]

Weak trolling you can do better.

[DaSeba5]

It is true that Miami hasn't been healthy in the playoffs against Indiana. I'm curious to see how Miami would have been against the Pacers if Wade played like he did in the 27 game win streak.

[Doranku]

While the Heat may or may not 3peat, at least I know that we can count on you to 10peat in making this thread in the coming weeks.

[TheWINdyCity]

:applause:

Your predictions are based on very objective observations, such as "too soft", "not ready imo", "best player is mentally weak", and the best of them all, "not going to happen". You clearly know what you're talking about and should coach at least 5 NBA teams at the same time next season. Your basketball knowledge would make the league a better place for sure.

:oldlol:

[funnystuff]

And in every scenario I couldn't see them beating the 2014 Heat.

West:
Clippers- Too soft and lack of dynamic wing players
Thunder- Bench sucks balls and so does their coach
Spurs- Played almost perfect and had a ton of ref help and still lost to Miami
Rockets - Still missing a piece
Warriors- They got a nice core, but not ready imo.

East:
Bulls- Their best player is mentally weak. Couldn't even beat the 2011 Heat with no bench.
Pacers- Best chance of beating Miami, but it's not going to happen.
Nets- Old and no team with Deron Williams on it will win a title.

I really don't see how anyone could take the field this year over Miami. LeBron is still LeBron, they added a Oden and another bench scorer, and if Wade is even close to healthy they might win 70 games. Looking forward to the three peat.
People honestly don't realize that this was exactly the case in games 1-5. It was ridiculous how many calls went the Spurs way. It was enraging.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

People honestly don't realize that this was exactly the case in games 1-5. It was ridiculous how many calls went the Spurs way. It was enraging.

Game 6 (3rd Q was disgusting) and 7 as well.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Anything less than a 70+ win season and playoff sweep deserves an asterisk, imo. The NBA is incomprehensibly weak right now.

[I<3NBA]

according to some, we should just quit watching the NBA since it's a foregone conclusion that the Heat would win.

[TheMan]

It is true that Miami hasn't been healthy in the playoffs against Indiana. I'm curious to see how Miami would have been against the Pacers if Wade played like he did in the 27 game win streak.
You forgot to mention that Indiana didn't have their best offensive player and it still took Miami 7 games to get past them...

[aj1987]

You forgot to mention that Indiana didn't have their best offensive player and it still took Miami 7 games to get past them...
They had him last year, when Wade was sorta healthy and look what happened.

[MJ(Mean John)]

If Wade is healthy (C'mon man. We've been saying this for 5 years)
they will be legit.


Otherwise- Biggest Threat- Pacers. I have the Pacers taking them out, TOO big. Hibbert will only get better, and you add Granger to the mix, and Paul G is going to get leaps and bounds better than he was last year. He is about to blow. Add Stephenson who is getting better, add consistent mr west, and an overall deep team.

They had problems scoring at times against the heat last year, that won't be a problem for this young team with thier best 2 players only getting better PLUS adding a 20 pt scorer in granger who also brings veteran presence. ADD MORE HEART AND HUNGRY, AND HUNGRY FOR REVENGE.

[BoutPractice]

They still have that weak spot in the interior that Indiana, in particular, can take advantage of.

[MJ(Mean John)]

I would take Paul George,Hibbert, West, Granger over wade, bron, f.aggot bigman who shoots 3's and sucks dick

[aj1987]

If Wade is healthy (C'mon man. We've been saying this for 5 years)
they will be legit.
Wade was injured during the 2012 seasons and 2013 PO's. He was healthy in '09, '10, and '11. Where'd you the 5 years from?



Otherwise- Biggest Threat- Pacers. I have the Pacers taking them out, TOO big. Hibbert will only get better, and you add Granger to the mix, and Paul G is going to get leaps and bounds better than he was last year. He is about to blow. Add Stephenson who is getting better, add consistent mr west, and an overall deep team.

They had problems scoring at times against the heat last year, that won't be a problem for this young team with thier best 2 players only getting better PLUS adding a 20 pt scorer in granger who also brings veteran presence. ADD MORE HEART AND HUNGRY, AND HUNGRY FOR REVENGE.
The Pacers don't have any chance. That team with Granger lost to Miami in 6 in '12.

[FiveRings]

OP "Miami Cavaliers - Reggie Miller"

OP "Looking at all the teams rosters, no team comes close to the Heat's talent or has a chance against them".

[Uncle Drew]

The only way for the Nets to even be considered a contender, is when Deron Williams tears his ACL.

[Lebron23]

I feel that a healthy Derrick Rose and Bulls team would beat the Indiana Pacers in a best of 7 series.

[poido123]

The Bulls and the Pacers have a legitimate chance to beat the Heat. Rose will provide the scoring that the Bulls need. Jimmy Butler can sweat Lebron on the defensive end. Unless Wade stays healthy or Lebron goes ham, the Bulls do have a legitimate chance of beating the Heat.

I don't see any other team doing it.

Good post :applause:

I'm glad a Heat fan acknowledges the problems Butler causes Lebron on the defensive end, but also see us as a legitimate threat too. If only OP had half the brain you have.

[SilkkTheShocker]

People honestly don't realize that this was exactly the case in games 1-5. It was ridiculous how many calls went the Spurs way. It was enraging.

For real. The refs handed the Spurs the series on a silver ****ing platter and they shit themselves.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Good post :applause:

I'm glad a Heat fan acknowledges the problems Butler causes Lebron on the defensive end, but also see us as a legitimate threat too. If only OP had half the brain you have.

Isn't that all Bulls fans talk about? To consider them a legitimate threat? Who cares? Its not like you're going to win a title with Rose as your best player. One who gets shutdown to the tune of 6% shooting.

[poido123]

Isn't that all Bulls fans talk about? To consider them a legitimate threat? Who cares? Its not like you're going to win a title with Rose as your best player. One who gets shutdown to the tune of 6% shooting.

You're giving us plenty of bumping ammo if your assumptions backfire :oldlol:

[poido123]

For real. The refs handed the Spurs the series on a silver ****ing platter and they shit themselves.

I suppose the refs caused Lebron to be passive for most of that series too. Only that the brink of elimination woke Lebron up and played like he should in game 7 :rolleyes:

[SilkkTheShocker]

You're giving us plenty of bumping ammo if your assumptions backfire :oldlol:

This is year 3 now of you saying the same shit. :oldlol:

If you say it enough in your head, I guess it becomes true.


































6%

[tpols]

This year actually looks to be the year where the Heat may face more than one or two good teams.. Theyll most likely see Indy or Brooklyn in the second round. And then the bulls in the ECFs.

And hopefully thunder come back strong.. wouldnt count them out.

[SilkkTheShocker]

This year actually looks to be the year where the Heat may face more than one or two good teams.. Theyll most likely see Indy or Brooklyn in the second round. And then the bulls in the ECFs.

And hopefully thunder come back strong.. wouldnt count them out.

LeBron>>>>Kobe

Let it go, dude.

[tpols]

LeBron>>>>Kobe

Let it go, dude.
:oldlol:


Just sayin.. Heat should win though because theyre team is ridiculously loaded.


Assuming Wades treatments with grover are going right, I would dead ass take that team w/o Lebron over any eastern team.

Chalmers/Wade/Beasley/Bosh/Oden w/ anderson, ray allen, battier etc off the bench is a team that could make the Finals with ease.

[SilkkTheShocker]

:oldlol:


Just sayin.. Heat should win though because theyre team is ridiculously loaded.


Assuming Wades treatments with grover are going right, I would dead ass take that team w/o Lebron over any eastern team.

Chalmers/Wade/Beasley/Bosh/Oden w/ anderson, ray allen, battier etc off the bench is a team that could make the Finals with ease.

Bro, find someone else to argue with. That troll bait is beyond obvious.

oh yea





LeBron>>>>>>Kobe :oldlol:

[niko]

I don't see it either. Brooklyn isn't built to play the Heat, they are too slow. The assumption there i guess would be that they'd just pound the Heat inside but the Heat can run on every miss. Chicago jettison's too much of their depth. Knicks need another big to balance out the 3 pt shooting and we'd be a pain (we actually match up well with them) but we won't get that person unless Bargs becomes a new human literally.

[nathanjizzle]

the heat would have lost to a washed up spurs if it werent for a miracle 3 by ray allen. but somehow the heat are unbeatable and lebron is this furious player to be reckoned with in the finals. :roll:

[FatComputerNerd]

Call me crazy or a homer, but if our main guys stay healthy, I could honestly see the Cavs contending this year, even without Bynum.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I don't see it either. Brooklyn isn't built to play the Heat, they are too slow. The assumption there i guess would be that they'd just pound the Heat inside but the Heat can run on every miss. Chicago jettison's too much of their depth. Knicks need another big to balance out the 3 pt shooting and we'd be a pain (we actually match up well with them) but we won't get that person unless Bargs becomes a new human literally.

How do you see the Nets performing in the playoffs? Pierce was looking extremely slow in the playoffs last year

[SilkkTheShocker]

Call me crazy or a homer, but if our main guys stay healthy, I could honestly see the Cavs contending this year, even without Bynum.

Playoffs, definitely. But Cleveland needs a dynamic SF badly. Karasev should be a nice shooter and Earl Clark is steady. But they need something else right now.

[Marchesk]

blah blah blah

I really don't see how anyone could take the field this year over Miami. LeBron is still LeBron, they added a Oden and another bench scorer, and if Wade is even close to healthy they might win 70 games. Looking forward to the three peat.

Wilt's championships >>>>> Lebron's championships

[FatComputerNerd]

Playoffs, definitely. But Cleveland needs a dynamic SF badly. Karasev should be a nice shooter and Earl Clark is steady. But they need something else right now.

Anthony Bennett will be that guy

[SilkkTheShocker]

Anthony Bennett will be that guy

Have they said anything about playing him at SF?

[scm5]

I don't see it either. Brooklyn isn't built to play the Heat, they are too slow. The assumption there i guess would be that they'd just pound the Heat inside but the Heat can run on every miss. Chicago jettison's too much of their depth. Knicks need another big to balance out the 3 pt shooting and we'd be a pain (we actually match up well with them) but we won't get that person unless Bargs becomes a new human literally.

A couple things I would like to point out.

Kidd was on the Mavs team that beat the Heat. He knows how to limit Lebron offensively. In terms of personnel to do so, he has JJ, PP, and AK47 that are up for it. PP has experience with Lebron himself and JJ and AK are both very good defenders. One of the keys to defending Lebron seems to be giving him multiple looks on defense. The Mavs went with Marion, Kidd, and even Barrea. The Spurs used Kawhi, Green, and Diaw.

Then, you have Garnett as your second line of defense as Lebron. Garnett is a very smart defender and will always make the right rotation.

I could definitely see the Nets having a lot of success against Miami.

[FatComputerNerd]

Have they said anything about playing him at SF?

Nah. Coach Brown has even said he will strictly play PF "for now".

That "for now" part is the key though IMO. I think he will ultimately be given a chance to play at the 3-spot, and we will see how it goes. If he has any of the LJ similarities we've all seen tossed around I fail to see why they wouldn't try it.

I'd love to see a lineup of

Kyrie
Dion
Benett
TT
Zeller (has to continue to improve and get a little stronger)

with Andy off the bench in what used to be his traditional role as a 4/5 6th man.

Obviously if Bynum is healthy (a big if) that changes everything. Lots of unknowns at this point.

[niko]

How do you see the Nets performing in the playoffs? Pierce was looking extremely slow in the playoffs last year

I don't think the mish mash of players and coaches they brought together will mesh like they think they will. Doc was the overriding voice in Boston, they were all younger, and his vets kicked everyone's ass on his behalf.

Now you have Kidd as the overriding voice in theory, but the new guys respect his assistant more. So you have the new guys with one leader, the old guys with another, and neither of the old Celtics the dominating talent they were. I questioned the Kidd move but you had to admit it was inspired. For about a week until they brought in vets who aren't going to listen to a rookie coach because essentially they've won more than him.

And you add to that the fact that even if not injured all the old guys will be beat up by playoff time and I don't think this season goes like people think it does for the Nets. (Somehow Lopez having a third foot surgery and missing 2 months this summer isn't a bad sign. Because having three surgeries on the same body part is great.)

My 2 cents. If the Knicks got a bunch of old players this would be chapter and verse what everyone would be saying.

The reason to me the Heat are such a bitch is that if you list the things you need to do to win, a lot of them are Lebron, and those are pretty much a given unless he gets hurt (or for some reason has a mental breakdown which if it happens I
ll just retire from watching nba because it will be such a tired story). The Nets need a similar list of things to happen, but they are spread among 10 players. Who is more likely to succeed, Lebron, or 10 guys? Odds favor the Heat.

[poido123]

How do you see the Nets performing in the playoffs? Pierce was looking extremely slow in the playoffs last year

I agree, Pierce did look very slow last year.

However, that team is deep. Guys like Pierce and Garnett have the luxury to play lesser minutes and be fresh for the playoffs. 20 impactful minutes from Pierce is all they need from him really, the rest of the team can do the rest.

[poido123]

Nah. Coach Brown has even said he will strictly play PF "for now".

That "for now" part is the key though IMO. I think he will ultimately be given a chance to play at the 3-spot, and we will see how it goes. If he has any of the LJ similarities we've all seen tossed around I fail to see why they wouldn't try it.

I'd love to see a lineup of

Kyrie
Dion
Benett
TT
Zeller (has to continue to improve and get a little stronger)

with Andy off the bench in what used to be his traditional role as a 4/5 6th man.

Obviously if Bynum is healthy (a big if) that changes everything. Lots of unknowns at this point.


Not a lot of people talk about the Cavs being a threat this year. They have a really deep roster and some serious talent.

As for the SF debacle, Gee is pretty solid there, plus you have Bennett who will likely play some minutes there. Gee is a decent defender, the rest of the Cavs lineup has plenty of scoring firepower, they dont need Gee to do anything else but defend well.

[funnystuff]

Game 6 (3rd Q was disgusting) and 7 as well.
Yes! I agree, 7 was somewhat more balanced, but i remember that 3rd quarter in game 6. Every time SA had possession in that quarter the refs blew their whistle on Miami. It was quite disgusting and quite obvious if i say so myself.

[niko]

A couple things I would like to point out.

Kidd was on the Mavs team that beat the Heat. He knows how to limit Lebron offensively. In terms of personnel to do so, he has JJ, PP, and AK47 that are up for it. PP has experience with Lebron himself and JJ and AK are both very good defenders. One of the keys to defending Lebron seems to be giving him multiple looks on defense. The Mavs went with Marion, Kidd, and even Barrea. The Spurs used Kawhi, Green, and Diaw.

Then, you have Garnett as your second line of defense as Lebron. Garnett is a very smart defender and will always make the right rotation.

I could definitely see the Nets having a lot of success against Miami.
That Mavs team had a lot of quick help defenders, and Lebron had a mental breakdown also, which helped. He's no longer shitting his pants in pressure situation, and the Nets again are old and slow. Very talented, but old and slow. Old and slow gets exposed huge in the playoffs.

[HurricaneKid]

:
Chalmers/Wade/Beasley/Bosh/Oden w/ anderson, ray allen, battier etc off the bench is a team that could make the Finals with ease.

Right. So for three years Miami was been outscored by its opponents without LeBron but you would take them to go to the Finals?

That makes you dumb.

[tpols]

Right. So for three years Miami was been outscored by its opponents without LeBron but you would take them to go to the Finals?

That makes you dumb.
Why do people always assume that players would play the exact same way after removing a player that dribbles the ball more than the rest of them combined?


Wade is a 25+/5+/5+ player if Lebron isnt taking any of his touches.. just a fact. Chris Bosh with Wade would be at the very least an 18/8 ish player.. he was 19/9 before they excluded him from the offense in favor of 3 pt shooters(another thing that has Lebron written all over it).


And the rest of the team is stacked.

[Kurosawa0]

No one saw the 2011 Mavs ruining the Lakers chances of three peating either. The Lakers all of a sudden looked completely gassed and done. I wouldn't be surprised if Miami doesn't end up just wearing down in a series against Chicago or Indiana.

[Graviton]

Interesting. :banana:

[uber]

Interesting. :banana:

:roll: :roll:

Silk nowhere to be seen

[Graviton]

Even Durant gave Spurs a better fight. :coleman:

[Graviton]

Interesting...

[Leroy Jetson]

Even Durant gave Spurs a better fight. :coleman:
The Mavs were a much tougher series than the Heat. East is a joke.