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Euroleague
09-18-2013, 04:32 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2013/09/17/eurobasket-serbia-spain-slovenia-france-croatia-ukraine-lithuania-italy/2828503/

Eurobasket, the entertaining and competitive championship played every two years (going to every four after the 2017 event), is considered the toughest international basketball event to win – tougher than the Olympics and World Cup, formerly the world championship, because the competition is stronger in Europe and not diluted with weaker basketball-playing nations who received automatic bids to the Olympics and worlds.

"I don't think there's any question that the most competitive balance among all the FIBA continental championships takes place in Europe because in a given tournament there can be, if not 10 or 12 teams that can win the gold, easily 12 teams that can medal," said ESPN announcer and international basketball expert Fran Fraschilla.

Russia, the 2012 London Olympics bronze medalist, didn't even reach the second round of group play at Eurobasket 2013 in Slovenia. Only won once in five games after entering the event in turmoil – its coach quit about a month before the tournament.

Turkey, the runner-up to the USA in the 2010 world championships, was also 1-4 and did not advance to the second round. Macedonia, which finished fourth at Eurobasket 2011, also failed to reach the second round.

Greece, ranked fourth in the world and which finished sixth at Eurobasket 2011, is done after losing a double-overtime thriller against Croatia in the final game second-round group play.

"What you see in European basketball on a yearly basis is a changing of the guard because there's so much competition," Fraschilla.

Spain, the two-time defending Eurobasket champion, has lost three times, including twice in the second round. Had Greece beaten Croatia on Monday, Spain was in danger of not advancing. That would have been embarrassing for Spain, which hosts next summer's FIBA World Cup of Basketball.

Even France, with a slew of NBA players including Tony Parker and Nic Batum, lost twice in the second round but a strong 4-1 first round helped propel it to the quarterfinals, which begin Wednesday.

KyrieTheFuture
09-18-2013, 04:45 PM
Talk about a context fail by euroleague. Of course it's more competitive it eliminates the awful bottom feeders and the USA doesn't play. Of course it's more competitive when the clear cut best don't participate. Ten teams can win euro basket but if we played only one could.

KyrieTheFuture
09-18-2013, 05:17 PM
I love when you bold sentences and then don't read anything past them giving context to the statement you cherry picked.

bdreason
09-18-2013, 05:20 PM
We win the Olympics and FIBA competitions (with our B team), so who cares? :oldlol:

qrich
09-18-2013, 05:24 PM
Just like CONCACAF is harder to win than UEFA.

:bowdown:



Put the All NC2A team in EuroBasket, and, at the absolute worst (I'm talking end of the world situation), they get bronze.

TheReal Kendall
09-18-2013, 05:29 PM
NBA is greater than both combined.

It's clear that the Olympics are levels above the FIBA cause the USA only participates in the only league that matters.

NBA>>>>>>>Olympics>>>>FIBA

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DEAL-WITH-IT-montage.gif

BoutPractice
09-18-2013, 05:29 PM
So sad for USA, never won the top tier international competition.

Congratulations. You just made your stupidest post yet :applause:

But yeah, trolling aside, the simple truth is this:
- on average, teams are better in the Eurobasket than in the Olympics
- however, it's harder to win the Olympics because you eventually have to go through Team USA, the best team in the world, and lose

niko
09-18-2013, 05:31 PM
How's the weather in greece today?

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 05:32 PM
But yeah, trolling aside, the simple truth is this:

- it's harder to win the Olympics because you eventually have to go through Team USA, the best team in the world, and lose

FALSE and UNTRUE.

qrich
09-18-2013, 05:35 PM
When qrich appears in a thread, you know that the NBA only fan trolls have pushed the panic button.

True, I am the savior.

Riddle me this.

Why blame a country for not playing in a competition, in which they can not?

Does Spain's soccer team suck since they have never won a Gold Cup?

nathanjizzle
09-18-2013, 05:36 PM
get it through your thick skull. The USA will always be better at basketball than any other nation. if you think otherwise, then you better find out why you have been delusioned so badly.

dr.hee
09-18-2013, 05:40 PM
How's the weather in greece today?

Oh, it's beautiful. Spanoulis went fishing today, as he does during every major tournament, since he has a lot of freetime. Afterwards he played a nice game of volleyball, a sport he's dominating easily since not hitting the net is something he practiced during the Eurobasket quite a lot...the best example being the beautiful spike in the 4th quarter against Croatia, which was mistaken for an airball three pointer by people less immersed in the art of volleyball. He's also quite skilled at turning the ball over, which is useful, since the whole point of volleyball is to turn the ball over to the other half of the field.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aQw2lKEK5CM/TDS4A-mbn0I/AAAAAAAAFT0/aevQDwKXppU/s1600/spanoulis_xops.jpg

niko
09-18-2013, 05:40 PM
Whenever niko appears in a thread, you know that the butt hurt of NBA only fans has reached a fever pitch.

How was your racist united meeting today?

Did you mean Manchester United? I don't think they are racist.

qrich
09-18-2013, 05:42 PM
Riddle me this.

Why do you feel the need to lie and claim the Olympics is a higher level competition than the EuroBasket?

Are you really that brainwashed by fascist patriotic bullshit propaganda?

Where did I say that?

CavaliersFTW
09-18-2013, 05:45 PM
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aj1987
09-18-2013, 05:45 PM
@Euroleague, Are you really from Arkansas?

CavaliersFTW
09-18-2013, 05:57 PM
Down to resorting to posting fascist propaganda symbols.............

the level of butt hurt from NBA only fans is reaching a boiling point now.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YfcQowCXfzs/UfSkNvdt4jI/AAAAAAAAEg0/bL2HV8-R2RY/s0/Bald_Eagle_and_flag_United_States_America1.jpg

dr.hee
09-18-2013, 06:03 PM
Patriotic eagle pics? Awesome. Here's ours :banana:

http://www.bundestag.de/kulturundgeschichte/symbole/adler/fosteradler_475.jpg

http://gerswind.homepage.t-online.de/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bundesadler-_neu.jpg

Rick James
09-18-2013, 06:16 PM
Euroleage brings up good points. You empty posters are ganging up on him for no reason.

Derka
09-18-2013, 06:30 PM
Absolutely nobody cares about anything you have to say.

Everyone here constantly derides you because you are psychotic and operate at sub-human levels of intelligence and decorum.

outbreak
09-18-2013, 06:36 PM
That article struck me more as saying it's a tougher comp as anyone can win which is true, in the olympics you really only 3-4 teams who have any chance of winning.

But yeah I'd also say it's tougher competition than the olympics because knowing this the teams take it more seriously and try a lot harder, I've heard things from other international teams about the olympics and alot of countries don't really care about the basketball comp as it really doesn't mean a lot and most countries don't have a real chance of winning.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/du51037b2a.jpg

KG215
09-18-2013, 06:44 PM
as it really doesn't mean a lot and most countries don't have a real chance of winning.
:bowdown:

Team USA just completely demoralizing the competition. That's what happens when you dominate on the international level to the extent they have.

outbreak
09-18-2013, 06:47 PM
:bowdown:

Team USA just completely demoralizing the competition. That's what happens when you dominate on the international level to the extent they have.

Yeah that's a big part, if team usa sent a college team again you'd see more countries try to win, although USA would still have a shot but not be favourites

CavaliersFTW
09-18-2013, 07:49 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WlX1NkNgUAM/Ujo7mhG5nNI/AAAAAAAAErI/yurIx_Ehd1M/s800/Ban%2520Euroleague.jpg

heres an avy for everyone :cheers:

Bandito
09-18-2013, 08:07 PM
Technically it is not wrong though. Aside from US who do you think is going to win the gold @ the Olympics? Did all the teams you though about are from Europe? Then yes it is true, Eurobasket is the strongest by default. The have Italy, Spain, Turkey, Russia and even Nigeria who's PG owned a V-Span led team in his prime who is considered the top ten pg in Greece.

Bandito
09-18-2013, 08:09 PM
Where did I say that?
He's a pathological liar and a moron. Bad combination:lol

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 08:09 PM
Technically it is not wrong though. Aside from US who do you think is going to win the gold @ the Olympics? Did all the teams you though about are from Europe? Then yes it is true, Eurobasket is the strongest by default. The have Italy, Spain, Turkey, Russia and even Nigeria who's PG owned a V-Span led team in his prime who is considered the top ten pg in Greece.

Hey troll, I guess you failed to realize that Galatasaray plays Olympiacos twice in the group stage.

You better keep the trolling down.

Bandito
09-18-2013, 08:12 PM
Hey troll, I guess you failed to realize that Galatasaray plays Olympiacos twice in the group stage.

You better keep the trolling down.
So that means Greece won't even pass the group stage. I am sorry my bad, I don't watch Eurobasket, if there aren't any true stars.

KyrieTheFuture
09-18-2013, 08:44 PM
If you think he's referring to the US as one the "inferior basketball countries" that's hilarious. Whatever best team is in Europe has to play the US anyway and the US will beat them as usual.

Kiddlovesnets
09-18-2013, 08:45 PM
Euroleague the biggest attention whhore on ISH, comparing games nobody watches to NBA and Olympics.

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 08:51 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WlX1NkNgUAM/Ujo7mhG5nNI/AAAAAAAAErI/yurIx_Ehd1M/s800/Ban%2520Euroleague.jpg

heres an avy for everyone :cheers:

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

It's spelled Euroleague genius.

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 08:53 PM
Hey troll, I guess you failed to realize that Galatasaray plays Olympiacos twice in the group stage.

You better keep the trolling down.



So that means Greece won't even pass the group stage. I am sorry my bad, I don't watch Eurobasket, if there aren't any true stars.

:rolleyes: :facepalm :wtf: :biggums:

I hope you are like 10 years old.

Bandito
09-18-2013, 08:55 PM
:rolleyes: :facepalm :wtf: :biggums:

I hope you are like 10 years old.
Greece has been eliminated a lot these past years and haven't even qualified!

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 08:56 PM
Euroleague the biggest attention whhore on ISH, comparing games nobody watches to NBA and Olympics.

Why would EuroBasket be broadcast on television in 167 countries if "no one watches it"?

Your level of ignorance is appalling.

Bandito
09-18-2013, 08:57 PM
Why would EuroBasket be broadcast on television in 170 countries if "no one watches it"?

Your level of ignorance is appalling.
That's a lie. What 170 countries aside from Europe watches the Eurobasket? Proof or you are a proven liar.

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 09:06 PM
That's a lie. What 170 countries aside from Europe watches the Eurobasket? Proof or you are a proven liar.

It's 167 countries.

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/arti.asp?newsid=68676

FIBA - Unprecedented global exposure for EuroBasket 2013

MIES (EuroBasket) - With the 38th edition of EuroBasket tipping off in Slovenia on Wednesday, FIBA is very pleased to announce a record-breaking broadcast distribution of the event throughout Europe and worldwide.

A strong group of broadcast partners will provide FIBA Europe's flagship event with quantity and quality coverage across 167 countries around the globe.

---------------------------------------------------------

You are an extremely ignorant jack ass, and you lie in pretty much every post you make.

Rooster
09-18-2013, 09:27 PM
Yeah that's a big part, if team usa sent a college team again you'd see more countries try to win, although USA would still have a shot but not be favourites

Our college boys were 84-2 on Olympic basketball.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

It was boys vs grown men and we still came out on top.:applause: :applause:

outbreak
09-18-2013, 09:33 PM
Our college boys were 84-2 on Olympic basketball.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

It was boys vs grown men and we still came out on top.:applause: :applause:
different era to be fair, in this day and age I'd think if the USA sends a college team they wouldn't be favourites. They'd still have a good shot but I think some of the other euro countries would be ranked higher.

Rooster
09-18-2013, 09:39 PM
Greece has been eliminated a lot these past years and haven't even qualified!

Diamintidis retired from team:(

Greece put Spanoulis to run the team.:facepalm :facepalm

Can't qualify for 2012 Olympic:facepalm

Can't qualify for 2014 FIBA Worlds:facepalm

They were both favored to win it all both times:roll: :oldlol:

Choked artist:oldlol:

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 09:42 PM
different era to be fair, in this day and age I'd think if the USA sends a college team they wouldn't be favourites. They'd still have a good shot but I think some of the other euro countries would be ranked higher.

WTF? A college team could not advance out of a group stage. OK, enough. I gave you a bunch of chances to show me you were not a troll. I'm done. You are a troll.

outbreak
09-18-2013, 09:45 PM
WTF? A college team could not advance out of a group stage. OK, enough. I gave you a bunch of chances to show me you were not a troll. I'm done. You are a troll.

You really think a college team wouldn't make it out of the group stage? A good college year would still be top 5 in the comp a lot of the time.

Rooster
09-18-2013, 09:50 PM
different era to be fair, in this day and age I'd think if the USA sends a college team they wouldn't be favourites. They'd still have a good shot but I think some of the other euro countries would be ranked higher.

I don't think they can win it all. Other teams just have too much talent and NBA experience nowadays. But if they play by NBA rules, they have a better shot and they probably can get by by talent alone but I won't bet on it.

Euroleague
09-18-2013, 09:53 PM
You really think a college team wouldn't make it out of the group stage? A good college year would still be top 5 in the comp a lot of the time.

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

Derka
09-18-2013, 09:54 PM
WTF? A college team could not advance out of a group stage. OK, enough. I gave you a bunch of chances to show me you were not a troll. I'm done. You are a troll.

You are well and truly insane.

aj1987
09-18-2013, 10:06 PM
:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

It's spelled Euroleague genius.
:roll: Headshot!


BTW, are you really from Arkansas?

Budadiiii
09-18-2013, 10:22 PM
Sad you guys let this dude troll you like this.

If he actually believes in the stuff he posts? (He doesn't) - He's insane, should be ignored.

If he doesn't? - He's a hyperactive troll, should be ignored.

Yet, he continues stir up reactions like no other..

Why are some of you arguing with this guy when you know he's just trolling? It's like fat people who know stuffing their face with muffins and McDonalds fries will only make them fatter, yet they do it anyway because they lack any sort of discipline or self respect. But hey, you idiots keep me entertained so why not? :pimp:

JimmyMcAdocious
09-18-2013, 10:30 PM
I prefer Euroleague's trolling over the typical LeBron/Kobe/Jordan troll. At least he's creative, albeit repetitive.

red1
09-18-2013, 10:43 PM
http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Nigeria/Flag-Pins-Nigeria-Finland.jpg

gabepizza
09-18-2013, 11:08 PM
You're still posting? Shouldn't you be on suicide watch or something.

I mean the Euroleague MVP and Final Four MVP puts on another embarrassing performance: leading the tournament in turnover, losing to Finland and Slovenia (where he is thoroughly outplayed by average NBA guard Dragic) and leads Greece to a pathetic 11th place finish cementing his legacy as a choker and a not able to compete with the big boys.

Meanwhile Spain with their NBA players put a 30 point beatdown on Serbia's mainly Euroleague team to reach the semis with Gasol shutting down Euroleague 2x first-team Krstic and dishing out 6 assists. Hell even Rubio had 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals.

And Tony Parker and his NBA colleagues beat up on Slovenia to reach the semis with Parker scoring 27 points and thoroughly out playing Dragic, the same Dragic who dominated Spanoulis.

Too bad France and Spain napped a little in group stages so they have to face each other in the semis instead of the final.

Euroleague's delusional world is crumbling all around him.

Suicide watch in 5..4..3..2...1

plowking
09-18-2013, 11:46 PM
So now a region specific tournament only allowing European countries is harder and more important than a tournament involving the world?

Let me guess... Eurobasket is also better than the World Championship now.

This f*cking wanker. Get the f*ck off the boards f@ggit.

Dr.J4ever
09-18-2013, 11:56 PM
This whole thread is illogical. How can the Eurobasket be the higher level tournament if the teams in it can't win Global Tournaments involving the US? Does this really need to be answered? It's stupid and illogical.

Le Shaqtus
09-18-2013, 11:58 PM
This whole thread is illogical. How can the Eurobasket be the higher level tournament if the teams in it can't win Global Tournaments involving the US? Does this really need to be answered? It's stupid and illogical.

It's because you're a psychotic racist probably.

We all are :(

CavaliersFTW
09-19-2013, 12:00 AM
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outbreak
09-19-2013, 12:10 AM
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at least spell it right....

CavaliersFTW
09-19-2013, 12:29 AM
at least spell it right....
:facepalm :roll: i failed twice in a row, gat dam im glossing right over spelling errors left and right

CavaliersFTW
09-19-2013, 12:31 AM
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absalom
09-19-2013, 12:54 AM
It's 167 countries.

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/lateNews/arti.asp?newsid=68676

FIBA - Unprecedented global exposure for EuroBasket 2013

MIES (EuroBasket) - With the 38th edition of EuroBasket tipping off in Slovenia on Wednesday, FIBA is very pleased to announce a record-breaking broadcast distribution of the event throughout Europe and worldwide.

A strong group of broadcast partners will provide FIBA Europe's flagship event with quantity and quality coverage across 167 countries around the globe.



Even if they broadcast it here in country, who would watch them anyway?


:confusedshrug:

ralph_i_el
09-19-2013, 12:58 AM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]All the trolls and liars in this forum claim the Olympics is a higher level tournament than the FIBA EuroBasket, even though the FIBA EuroBasket is about 2-3 levels higher in level than the Olympics.

If I would ever point out here in this forum that actually the FIBA EuroBasket is the highest level international tournament, I would always get called a "liar", "nutcase", "delusional", "crazy", "insane", "certifiable", etc. by all the trolls here.

The pathological lying, and psychotic TROLLS here have been allowed to turn reality upside down, and claim the Olympics, which is a POS level of competition, is "a higher level of competition than the FIBA EuroBasket". When in actual reality, the FIBA EuroBasket is TRULY by far and away the highest level of international basketball, and is way, way better in level than the Olympics is.

These lunatic asylum level trolls will even say absurd things like, "FIBA EuroBasket is just a regional qualifying tournament", or the best one of all, "FIBA Americas is a much higher level tournament than the FIBA EuroBasket is" (gabepizza has made that claim that the Americas Tournament is better than the EuroBasket about 50 times here in this forum). This proves that the level of psychosis of some of these mega trolls is SCARY AS HELL.

Well, the pathological lying, psychotic trolls have been officially outed and exposed by Fran Fraschilla.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2013/09/17/eurobasket-serbia-spain-slovenia-france-croatia-ukraine-lithuania-italy/2828503/
[I]
Eurobasket, the entertaining and competitive championship played every two years (going to every four after the 2017 event), [B]is considered the toughest international basketball event to win

Dr.J4ever
09-19-2013, 01:56 AM
I'm going to come over to your house and **** slap you
The key words in the whole Fran Frash article are "competitive balance" in describing the different international tournaments. There's no question Europe has the most balance. But only an illogical person will deny that that the Olympics or the Worlds is tougher to win because the US is in it. Even Argentina and Brazil have been hurdles for Euro teams. For heaven's sake, the results speak for themselves.

Case closed.

Real Men Wear Green
09-19-2013, 05:58 AM
Of course the mods here owe me a huge apology, for all the crap they put me through over these "trolling arguments", but of course you know they won't do so.
I'm really sorry you can't find the International Forum. I've tried to post links to the forum and will continue to do so, but, you know it's hard. You see, no offense, but, you're an idiot that can't seem to follow basic instructions:

NBA talk in the NBA forum.

International Ball in the International forum.

A little bit of deviation from the rules is ok.

But you do it all the time, on purpose, for the joy of being a jackass.

So, I apologize for you being an asshole...to the rest of the board. I have no idea why you aren't banned permanently and have no defense for the lack of action.

Euroleague
09-19-2013, 08:10 AM
Sad you guys let this dude troll you like this.

If he actually believes in the stuff he posts? (He doesn't) - He's insane, should be ignored.

If he doesn't? - He's a hyperactive troll, should be ignored.

Yet, he continues stir up reactions like no other..

Why are some of you arguing with this guy when you know he's just trolling? It's like fat people who know stuffing their face with muffins and McDonalds fries will only make them fatter, yet they do it anyway because they lack any sort of discipline or self respect. But hey, you idiots keep me entertained so why not? :pimp:

Shall I twitter Fran Fraschilla and tell him you and all these other creep trolls here think he's "insane"?

Euroleague
09-19-2013, 08:12 AM
This whole thread is illogical. How can the Eurobasket be the higher level tournament if the teams in it can't win Global Tournaments involving the US? Does this really need to be answered? It's stupid and illogical.

Yeah, because you, a troll on a message board, knows more about basketball than Fran Fraschilla does...............right..............

You guys are so freaking owned, and you STILL post these alternate universe make believe fantasies.

You REALLY are proving you are psychotic.

Euroleague
09-19-2013, 08:13 AM
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Did you have to use a spell checker program?

:roll: :lol :oldlol: :facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

Euroleague
09-19-2013, 08:15 AM
The key words in the whole Fran Frash article are "competitive balance" in describing the different international tournaments. There's no question Europe has the most balance. But only an illogical person will deny that that the Olympics or the Worlds is tougher to win because the US is in it. Even Argentina and Brazil have been hurdles for Euro teams. For heaven's sake, the results speak for themselves.

Case closed.

The article clearly stated it is harder to win EuroBasket than the Olympics.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2013/09/17/eurobasket-serbia-spain-slovenia-france-croatia-ukraine-lithuania-italy/2828503/

Eurobasket, the entertaining and competitive championship played every two years (going to every four after the 2017 event), is considered the toughest international basketball event to win – tougher than the Olympics and World Cup, formerly the world championship, because the competition is stronger in Europe and not diluted with weaker basketball-playing nations who received automatic bids to the Olympics and worlds.


----------------------------------------------------------------

You are a mega creepy person.

CASE CLOSED

Dr.J4ever
09-19-2013, 08:30 AM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]The article clearly stated it is harder to win EuroBasket than the Olympics.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2013/09/17/eurobasket-serbia-spain-slovenia-france-croatia-ukraine-lithuania-italy/2828503/
[I]
Eurobasket, the entertaining and competitive championship played every two years (going to every four after the 2017 event), [B]is considered the toughest international basketball event to win

Euroleague
09-19-2013, 08:44 AM
yeah all of us are creeps except you. Maybe you're just misunderstood and ahead of your time, a bit like einstein or maybe you're just a nut with the whole world against you. As i use to ask , genius or nut?

And you are calling Fraschilla and the author of the article "insane".

Yeah, a proven pathological liar like you is the normal one, but the basketball expert and pro sports writer are the "insane" ones.

RIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TTTTTTTTTT

Dr.J4ever
09-19-2013, 08:57 AM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]And you are calling Fraschilla and the author of the article "insane".

Yeah, a proven pathological liar like you is the normal one, but the basketball expert and pro sports writer are the "insane" ones.

RIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TTTTTTTTTT[/QUO you use the letter "h" so many times it scared. Ease up on the coffee. But really all fran meant is that eurob is harder to win on a game to game basis because of what he called "competitive balance" . Are we reaching you yet?

gabepizza
09-19-2013, 09:45 AM
This is the only thing he can do is keep posting here to prevent him from going insane thinking about how V-Span was totally exposed and out played and choked in this tournament. Again team Greece absolutely embarrassed themselves.

boozehound
09-19-2013, 10:43 AM
the fact that you make this thread shows just what kind of ignorant slutbag troll you are.

chips93
09-19-2013, 11:00 AM
the fact that you make this thread shows just what kind of ignorant slutbag troll you are.

the fact that he consistenyl gets this many responses shows what an amazing troll he is

:bowdown:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
09-19-2013, 11:12 AM
the fact that he consistenyl gets this many responses shows what an amazing troll he is

:bowdown:

:oldlol:

Not sure why people continue responding to the guy. It's counterproductive really..

3peated
09-19-2013, 11:33 AM
has euroleague ever been to europe

dr.hee
09-19-2013, 11:42 AM
has euroleague ever been to europe

Don't know, can you go on a plane in a straight jacket?

Djahjaga
09-20-2013, 12:03 AM
has euroleague ever been to europe


Don't know, can you go on a plane in a straight jacket?

:roll: Jesus Christ. :roll:


That was the best one-two punch since Shaq and Kobe. :rockon:

ballup
09-20-2013, 12:32 AM
I'm really sorry you can't find the International Forum. I've tried to post links to the forum and will continue to do so, but, you know it's hard. You see, no offense, but, you're an idiot that can't seem to follow basic instructions:

NBA talk in the NBA forum.

International Ball in the International forum.

A little bit of deviation from the rules is ok.

But you do it all the time, on purpose, for the joy of being a jackass.

So, I apologize for you being an asshole...to the rest of the board. I have no idea why you aren't banned permanently and have no defense for the lack of action.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9ofoqWqfM1rvl3nyo1_500.gif

outbreak
09-20-2013, 01:27 AM
I'm really sorry you can't find the International Forum. I've tried to post links to the forum and will continue to do so, but, you know it's hard. You see, no offense, but, you're an idiot that can't seem to follow basic instructions:

NBA talk in the NBA forum.

International Ball in the International forum.

A little bit of deviation from the rules is ok.

But you do it all the time, on purpose, for the joy of being a jackass.

So, I apologize for you being an asshole...to the rest of the board. I have no idea why you aren't banned permanently and have no defense for the lack of action.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Sharmer
09-20-2013, 07:57 AM
best thing with Europe is the ***** is good for a hammering. :lol

jzek
09-20-2013, 08:38 AM
Greece lost to Nigeria (which lost to the US by 73 points) and Finland.

Case closed.

tomtucker
09-20-2013, 09:58 AM
I dont have yeast infections, I've been checked by several doctors & they do not find anything. I've had untreated diabetis for some time. Can that be the cause. It's been treted now & the levels are good; but could not treating it for long could have caused unreversible nerve damage in my ******???? I am 70 yrs old.


:biggums:

Inferno
09-20-2013, 10:24 AM
:roll: Jesus Christ. :roll:


That was the best one-two punch since Shaq and Kobe. :rockon:

:lol

insidehoops
09-20-2013, 03:56 PM
Not sure how beating Team Spain at EuroBasket (followed mostly just by Europe) is more important than beating Team Spain at the Olympics (followed by Europe as well as the entire world).

Same team of players usually, but Olympics is obviously a much bigger stage.

Euroleague
09-20-2013, 04:02 PM
Not sure how beating Team Spain at EuroBasket (followed mostly just by Europe) is more important than beating Team Spain at the Olympics (followed by Europe as well as the entire world).

Same team of players usually, but Olympics is obviously a much bigger stage.

EuroBasket is broadcast on TV in 167 countries. So the Olympics stage is not "much bigger". Because the Olympics viewers are following a whole bunch of other sports and other events.

EuroBasket has people just watching the basketball games.

mr beast
09-20-2013, 04:33 PM
Euroleage brings up good points. You empty posters are ganging up on him for no reason.



that's what you get for making too many piece of shiet threads, people stop taking him seriously after a while


btw insidehoops (Jeff) please grant the name change for Euroleague to VSpansPuxay

Bandito
09-20-2013, 04:47 PM
Yeah, because you, a troll on a message board, knows more about basketball than Fran Fraschilla does...............right..............

You guys are so freaking owned, and you STILL post these alternate universe make believe fantasies.

You REALLY are proving you are psychotic.
what make believe fantasy? USA dominates the world everytime they play basketball...:roll:

AlphaWolf24
09-20-2013, 04:57 PM
http://thedirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/japanese-mixed-martial-arts-genki-sudos-famous-banner.jpg

bdreason
09-20-2013, 05:00 PM
Tony Parker single handedly takes down the supposed 2nd best International team in the World. :roll:

iTare
09-20-2013, 05:05 PM
Is Euroleague from Arkansas?

LexiKhan
09-20-2013, 05:05 PM
"Competitive Balance"

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/air-quotes.gif

Twiens
09-20-2013, 05:07 PM
Not sure how beating Team Spain at EuroBasket (followed mostly just by Europe) is more important than beating Team Spain at the Olympics (followed by Europe as well as the entire world).

Same team of players usually, but Olympics is obviously a much bigger stage.

The difference is, all the best players(Pau,Noah etc) will actually show up if it was the Olympics.

Euroleague
09-20-2013, 05:35 PM
The difference is, all the best players(Pau,Noah etc) will actually show up if it was the Olympics.

FALSE.

Olympics has like 1/5 of the best teams in the world.

gabepizza
09-20-2013, 09:23 PM
FALSE.

Olympics has like 1/5 of the best teams in the world.

Absolutely insane post. The Olympics had USA, Spain, Argentina, Lithuania, Russia, France, Brazil and Australia. That is 8 of the top 10 teams in the world right there.

gabepizza
09-20-2013, 09:28 PM
EuroBasket is broadcast on TV in 167 countries. So the Olympics stage is not "much bigger". Because the Olympics viewers are following a whole bunch of other sports and other events.

EuroBasket has people just watching the basketball games.

Your posts are going from dumber to dumber. With today's satellite, cable and hundreds of channels everything is broadcast on TV in 167 countries. I'm sure the bass fishing championship is televised in 167 countrues. That doesn't mean it gets as much viewership as the Olympics.
:facepalm

bdreason
09-21-2013, 04:01 AM
Tony Parker moves into 2nd place all-time for scoring in Eurobasket history, behind only Dirk Nowitzki.


Not surprising Eurobasket is dominated by NBA players.

dunksby
09-21-2013, 06:24 AM
So this means Greece failed big time in an elite tournament, Greece = Scrubs

ZenMaster
09-21-2013, 06:26 AM
Tony Parker moves into 2nd place all-time for scoring in Eurobasket history, behind only Dirk Nowitzki.


Not surprising Eurobasket is dominated by NBA players.

Absolutely not surprising at all, they both have great offensive skills. I'd say it's more "surprising" that it goes the other way in that they also do very well in the NBA. 4 championships, 2 Finals MVPs and 1 MVP between thoose two.

Relative to twenty years ago Europeans now dominate in the NBA so obviously the national teams will be dominated by NBA players.

dunksby
09-21-2013, 06:30 AM
Absolutely not surprising at all, they both have great offensive skills. I'd say it's more "surprising" that it goes the other way in that they also do very well in the NBA. 4 championships, 2 Finals MVPs and 1 MVP between thoose two.

Relative to twenty years ago Europeans now dominate in the NBA so obviously the national teams will be dominated by NBA players.
But Dirk is handicapped compared to the French and the Spanish.

andz
09-21-2013, 06:32 AM
Tony Parker moves into 2nd place all-time for scoring in Eurobasket history, behind only Dirk Nowitzki.


Not surprising Eurobasket is dominated by NBA players.

this is not true

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 06:21 PM
Absolutely insane post. The Olympics had USA, Spain, Argentina, Lithuania, Russia, France, Brazil and Australia. That is 8 of the top 10 teams in the world right there.


You are unimaginably stupid.

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 06:22 PM
Your posts are going from dumber to dumber. With today's satellite, cable and hundreds of channels everything is broadcast on TV in 167 countries. I'm sure the bass fishing championship is televised in 167 countrues. That doesn't mean it gets as much viewership as the Olympics.
:facepalm

2010 FIBA World Cup = 1 billion viewers

2012 Olympics basketball = 800 million viewers


You are a fascist zealot and a moron.

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 06:23 PM
Absolutely not surprising at all, they both have great offensive skills. I'd say it's more "surprising" that it goes the other way in that they also do very well in the NBA. 4 championships, 2 Finals MVPs and 1 MVP between thoose two.

Relative to twenty years ago Europeans now dominate in the NBA so obviously the national teams will be dominated by NBA players.

What he posted isn't even true. He lied like he always does.


Current FIBA EuroBasket All Time Top Scorers:


1. Nikos Galis (Greece) - 1,030 points

2. Tony Parker (France) - 984 points

3. Dirk Nowitzki (Germany) - 983 points

4. Miki Berkovich (Israel) - 935 points

KobesFinger
09-21-2013, 06:45 PM
2010 FIBA World Cup = 1 billion viewers

2012 Olympics basketball = 800 million viewers


You are a fascist zealot and a moron.

Probably because Greece wasn't at the Olympics

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 06:48 PM
2010 FIBA World Cup = 1 billion viewers

2012 Olympics basketball = 800 million viewers


You are a fascist zealot and a moron.

Prove it with a link or else it is just another one of your lies that people don't dignify wasting their time with.

And BTW that's the World Cup not Eurobasket.

duskovujosevic
09-21-2013, 06:52 PM
marketing and propaganda machinery in USA made public opinion think that OLYMPICS ARE SUPERIOR COMPETIOTION THAN WC AND EUROBASKET just because they send NBA players. Same propaganda that states NBA CHAMPION IS WORLD CHAMPION.

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 06:55 PM
Prove it with a link or else it is just another one of your lies that people don't dignify wasting their time with.

And BTW that's the World Cup not Eurobasket.

http://turkey2010.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/10/fwcm/news/p/eid/4728/lid//nid/44596/rid//sid/4728/article.html

TV figures show that an expected 1 billion people in nearly 200 countries watched the games.



Do you ever get tired of being proved wrong and being proven to be a lying troll?

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 06:56 PM
marketing and propaganda machinery in USA made public opinion think that OLYMPICS ARE SUPERIOR COMPETIOTION THAN WC AND EUROBASKET just because they send NBA players. Same propaganda that states NBA CHAMPION IS WORLD CHAMPION.

Yes, correct and true.

But it still does not mean that we have to tolerate the endless trolling from NBA only fans on this issue. Being too stupid to separate NBA gimmick marketing schemes from actual reality is not a legit excuse for all their trolling about this.

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 07:00 PM
You are unimaginably stupid.

Than who would you say are top 10 teams in the world?

Croatia? Last time they were in the Olympic they finished 6th (behind Argentina after losing by 24 points to them)

Slovenia? Last time they had a chance to be in the Olympics they lost to Puerto Rico in the qualifying tournament.

Serbia? Last time they were in the Olympics they finished 12th

Ukraine? Finland? They would be lucky to win one game in the Olympics.

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 07:01 PM
Than who would you say are top 10 teams in the world?

Croatia? Last time they were in the Olympic they finished 6th (behind Argentina after losing by 24 points to them)

Slovenia? Last time they had a chance to be in the Olympics they lost to Puerto Rico in the qualifying tournament.

Serbia? Last time they were in the Olympics they finished 12th

Ukraine? Finland? They would be lucky to win one game in the Olympics.

You are just too damn stupid to be reasoned with.

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 07:09 PM
http://turkey2010.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/10/fwcm/news/p/eid/4728/lid//nid/44596/rid//sid/4728/article.html

TV figures show that an expected 1 billion people in nearly 200 countries watched the games.



Do you ever get tired of being proved wrong and being proven to be a lying troll?

Ah-ha. I thought you actually got me on that one and wanted a link to show that only 800 million watched the Olympics but then I realize that this is another troll strategy of yours like comparing Euroleague and NBA stats not mentioning that NBA games are 8 minutes longer.

The WC has twice as many games to watch and twice as many teams so of course the WC is going to have more viewship but if you average the amount of people who watch each game the Olympics compared to each game in the WC the Olympics blows the WC out of the water.

Find the viewship for the WC gold medal game and the viewship for the Olympic gold medal. I am sure the Olympics have more. If you can prove with links that the FIBA games has more views I will take a three week self ban.

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 07:12 PM
Ah-ha. I thought you actually got me on that one and wanted a link to show that only 800 million watched the Olympics but then I realize that this is another troll strategy of yours like comparing Euroleague and NBA stats not mentioning that NBA games are 8 minutes longer.

The WC has twice as many games to watch and twice as many teams so of course the WC is going to have more viewship but if you average the amount of people who watch each game the Olympics compared to each game in the WC the Olympics blows the WC out of the water.

Find the viewship for the WC gold medal game and the viewship for the Olympic gold medal. I am sure the Olympics have more. If you can prove with links that the FIBA games has more views I will take a three week self ban.

The mind of the insanely psychotic troll, where 800 million is more than 1 billion, and where "more people watched the Olympics (800 million) than watched the World Championship (1 billion)"..................

You truly are crazy.

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 07:13 PM
marketing and propaganda machinery in USA made public opinion think that OLYMPICS ARE SUPERIOR COMPETIOTION THAN WC AND EUROBASKET just because they send NBA players. Same propaganda that states NBA CHAMPION IS WORLD CHAMPION.

The reason the Olympics is the best is because the best NBA players go. Do you think the USA could have won the Olympics with their B team like they won the WC (and geez were not even challenged in the playoffs)

And Eurobasket it a joke since the best teams from Eurobasket only win global competition with NBA players 20% of the time. Eurobasket is basically given European the honors of being tomato cans for Team USA (and once Argentina). It's so fun to see Team USA crush you losers and the European players flopping and crying.
:cheers:

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 07:15 PM
gabepizza has been saying that "Greece will kick Spanoulis off their national team now" after every tournament since 2008...........

Well trollpissa, Greece's coach announced that if his contract is renewed for the next tournament (whether that be 2014 or 2015), that not only will Greece be built around Spanoulis, but that this time Spanoulis will be allowed to choose the roster.

Euroleague
09-21-2013, 07:16 PM
The reason the Olympics is the best is because the best NBA players go. Do you think the USA could have won the Olympics with their B team like they won the WC (and geez were not even challenged in the playoffs)

And Eurobasket it a joke since the best teams from Eurobasket only win global competition with NBA players 20% of the time. Eurobasket is basically given European the honors of being tomato cans for Team USA (and once Argentina). It's so fun to see Team USA crush you losers and the European players flopping and crying.
:cheers:

Brainwashed. By. NBA. Marketing.

TheReturn
09-21-2013, 07:17 PM
gabepizza has been saying that "Greece will kick Spanoulis off their national team now" after every tournament since 2008...........

Well trollpissa, Greece's coach announced that if his contract is renewed for the next tournament (whether that be 2014 or 2015), that not only will Greece be built around Spanoulis, but that this time Spanoulis will be allowed to choose the roster.
Only to get destroyed by Nigeria again.. :roll: :roll:

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 07:17 PM
The mind of the insanely psychotic troll, where 800 million is more than 1 billion, and where "more people watched the Olympics (800 million) than watched the World Championship (1 billion)"..................

You truly are crazy.

Again the WC have twice as many games so if you average per viewship the Olympics get more viewers per game.

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 07:19 PM
Brainwashed. By. NBA. Marketing.

Hey at least I'm not brainwashed by Euroleague marketing where the Euroleague MVP gets outplayed by European scrubs and NBA role players.
:rolleyes:

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 07:20 PM
Only to get destroyed by Nigeria again.. :roll: :roll:

or Finland
:rockon:

Djahjaga
09-21-2013, 07:44 PM
Only to get destroyed by Nigeria again.. :roll: :roll:

Wait, I know EuroLeague is the most skilled troll ever, but I forgot what he said in response to Nigeria beating Greece and then losing in the biggest blowout in history to the US.

Was Greece injured?

gabepizza
09-21-2013, 08:01 PM
Wait, I know EuroLeague is the most skilled troll ever, but I forgot what he said in response to Nigeria beating Greece and then losing in the biggest blowout in history to the US.

Was Greece injured?


No his favorite excuse when the results of games constantly shatter his delusions again and again...its was fixed by the refs (although Nigeria was actually called for more fouls)

duskovujosevic
09-21-2013, 08:12 PM
gabepizza actually knows alot about basketball, and follows FIBA tournaments. But somehow trolling have become his hobby.

outbreak
09-22-2013, 06:14 AM
Again the WC have twice as many games so if you average per viewship the Olympics get more viewers per game.
He has selective vision and ignores facts that go against his views

USABall
09-22-2013, 10:52 AM
I find it interesting to note that the Olympics only offers one birth into the World Cup (gold medal winner), where as EuroBasket offers 6 total births to the World Cup. In comparison to regional competitions (FIBA Oceania 2, FIBA Asia 3, FIBA Africa 3, FIBA Americas 4), it appears that FIBA itself agrees that EuroBasket has the highest concentration of talent.

Sakkreth
09-22-2013, 11:12 AM
I find it interesting to note that the Olympics only offers one birth into the World Cup (gold medal winner), where as EuroBasket offers 6 total births to the World Cup. In comparison to regional competitions (FIBA Oceania 2, FIBA Asia 3, FIBA Africa 3, FIBA Americas 4), it appears that FIBA itself agrees that EuroBasket has the highest concentration of talent.

And there shouldn't be discussion about that wtf... Olympics and WC would be stronger if there was even more teams from europe in it. The only thing that europe doesn't have is the best team that is USA and couple of european level teams. In numbers of quality teams (whichever u pick top10, top20, top40), europe has more teams than all other regions combined.

Frozen1
09-22-2013, 12:21 PM
Yeah, in this competition euroteams will not find a USA squad led by a 21 year old Durant, Lamar Odom and Billups to beat them.

I wonder why only in this game a team got close to beat them. Tip: it wasn

gabepizza
09-22-2013, 02:05 PM
I find it interesting to note that the Olympics only offers one birth into the World Cup (gold medal winner), where as EuroBasket offers 6 total births to the World Cup. In comparison to regional competitions (FIBA Oceania 2, FIBA Asia 3, FIBA Africa 3, FIBA Americas 4), it appears that FIBA itself agrees that EuroBasket has the highest concentration of talent.


That's silly. The WC is not a qualifying tournament for the World Cup like the regional zones are. By that post FIBA Asia has a higher concentration of talent then the World Cup.

bdreason
09-22-2013, 03:36 PM
marketing and propaganda machinery in USA made public opinion think that OLYMPICS ARE SUPERIOR COMPETIOTION THAN WC AND EUROBASKET just because they send NBA players. Same propaganda that states NBA CHAMPION IS WORLD CHAMPION.


We won FIBA WC with our B-team, so who cares?


And I've watched this Eurobasket tournament, and I'm not impressed. We would beat France or Lithuania with our C-team.

Euroleague
09-22-2013, 03:59 PM
gabepizza actually knows alot about basketball, and follows FIBA tournaments. But somehow trolling have become his hobby.

He's a natural born troll.

Euroleague
09-22-2013, 04:02 PM
I find it interesting to note that the Olympics only offers one birth into the World Cup (gold medal winner), where as EuroBasket offers 6 total births to the World Cup. In comparison to regional competitions (FIBA Oceania 2, FIBA Asia 3, FIBA Africa 3, FIBA Americas 4), it appears that FIBA itself agrees that EuroBasket has the highest concentration of talent.

Yep, and FIBA already said that when it expands the World Cup to 32 teams for 2019, that probably 6 of the 8 new places will go to Europe.

Euroleague
09-22-2013, 04:03 PM
We won FIBA WC with our B-team, so who cares?


And I've watched this Eurobasket tournament, and I'm not impressed. We would beat France or Lithuania with our C-team.

2012 USA A Team 99 - a Lithuanian team worse than this one - 94

STOP TROLLING

bdreason
09-22-2013, 04:21 PM
2012 USA A Team 99 - a Lithuanian team worse than this one - 94

STOP TROLLING


If these are supposed to be the best two teams Europe has to offer, I could indeed see a USA team consisting of no players from either the Olympics or FIBA WC, beating them.

Kyrie Irving / John Wall
Klay Thompson / Gordon Hayward
Kwahi Leonard / Paul George
LaMarcas Aldridge / Taj Gibson
DeMarcus Cousins / Andre Drummond


That's our C-Team, and I'll take them over France or Lithuania without a second thought.

dr.hee
09-22-2013, 04:26 PM
If these are supposed to be the best two teams Europe has to offer, I could indeed see a USA team consisting of no players from either the Olympics or FIBA WC, beating them.

Kyrie Irving / John Wall
Klay Thompson / Gordon Hayward
Kwahi Leonard / Paul George
LaMarcas Aldridge / Taj Gibson
DeMarcus Cousins / Andre Drummond


That's our C-Team, and I'll take them over France or Lithuania without a second thought.

Wouldn't take Cousins. Rather have somebody with a brain instead. What about Greg Monroe?

Euroleague
09-22-2013, 04:28 PM
If these are supposed to be the best two teams Europe has to offer, I could indeed see a USA team consisting of no players from either the Olympics or FIBA WC, beating them.

Kyrie Irving / John Wall
Klay Thompson / Gordon Hayward
Kwahi Leonard / Paul George
LaMarcas Aldridge / Taj Gibson
DeMarcus Cousins / Andre Drummond


That's our C-Team, and I'll take them over France or Lithuania without a second thought.

I bet that above team would lose to Belgium.

gabepizza
09-22-2013, 04:30 PM
I bet that above team would lose to Belgium.

Yes and you are the same idiot who predicted the US B-team would get beaten by the superior European teams in 2010.

How'd that work out for you?:rolleyes:

Euroleague
09-22-2013, 04:39 PM
Yes and you are the same idiot who predicted the US B-team would get beaten by the superior European teams in 2010.

How'd that work out for you?:rolleyes:

The team he posted would struggle to beat teams like Belgium and Great Britain.

I seriously doubt that team would even be able to compete with Finland or Bosnia.

dr.hee
09-22-2013, 04:43 PM
I seriously doubt that team would even be able to compete with Finland

http://photo.ekathimerini.com/kath/engs/img/SPORTS/2013/09/spanoulis_kotti_390_0909.jpg

http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0525/nba_koponen_180.jpg

SamuraiSWISH
09-22-2013, 04:52 PM
No, it's the NBA playoffs.

Euroleague
09-22-2013, 05:19 PM
http://photo.ekathimerini.com/kath/engs/img/SPORTS/2013/09/spanoulis_kotti_390_0909.jpg

http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0525/nba_koponen_180.jpg

Finland is better than that hypothetical USA team he proposed.

Rooster
09-22-2013, 05:41 PM
[QUOTE=Frozen1]Yeah, in this competition euroteams will not find a USA squad led by a 21 year old Durant, Lamar Odom and Billups to beat them.

I wonder why only in this game a team got close to beat them. Tip: it wasn

bdreason
09-23-2013, 02:55 AM
Wouldn't take Cousins. Rather have somebody with a brain instead. What about Greg Monroe?


All the players listed are actually part of the USA select program. Not sure if Monroe is on the select team... but if he is, I agree.

tmacattack33
09-23-2013, 10:29 AM
Everyone basketball player's dream is to play in the NBA...and that includes players currently in the euroleague or whatever other international league is out there.

As long as that is true, the NBA reigns supreme.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

Fukk.

Sakkreth
09-23-2013, 11:41 AM
Everyone basketball player's dream is to play in the NBA...and that includes players currently in the euroleague or whatever other international league is out there.

As long as that is true, the NBA reigns supreme.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

Fukk.

Hmm more kids in Lithuania would answer that their dream is to play for Zalgiris. Probably like way more.

Fiba basketball
09-23-2013, 11:45 AM
Hmm more kids in Lithuania would answer that their dream is to play for Zalgiris. Probably like way more.

Same here, almost all kids would say Partizan or Red Star.

Euroleague
09-23-2013, 02:38 PM
Everyone basketball player's dream is to play in the NBA...and that includes players currently in the euroleague or whatever other international league is out there.

As long as that is true, the NBA reigns supreme.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

Fukk.

False. That's not true and never has been true.

You just imagined that.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
09-23-2013, 02:43 PM
Tony Parker recently said he considered them exhibition games. That they were 'for fun'.

Top-level tournament? Maybe in Europe.

gabepizza
09-23-2013, 11:14 PM
Top level zone tournament.

Not as high as a global tournament like Olympics or World Cup.

This French team that just won gold is basically the same exact team except Ajinca that placed 6th last year in the Olympics.

No Team USA
No Spain with Pau or Ibaka
No Russia with AK47
No Argentina with Ginobli, Scola, Prigioni and Delfino
No Brazil with Barbosa, Nene and Varejao

And the Lithuanian team that won silver was basically the same team that finished 8th in the Olympics except the Lavinovic brothers.

Euroleague
09-23-2013, 11:20 PM
Top level zone tournament.

Not as high as a global tournament like Olympics or World Cup.

This French team that just won gold is basically the same exact team except Ajinca that placed 6th last year in the Olympics.

No Team USA
No Spain with Pau or Ibaka
No Russia with AK47
No Argentina with Ginobli, Scola, Prigioni and Delfino
No Brazil with Barbosa, Nene and Varejao

And the Lithuanian team that won silver was basically the same team that finished 8th in the Olympics except the Lavinovic brothers.

You need a new trolling schtick.

outbreak
09-23-2013, 11:28 PM
You need a new trolling schtick.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/6637a5ec73464e961f901fe36f6bfe57/tumblr_msl4j0qUwG1rw9dz1o3_r1_400.gif

fandarko
09-24-2013, 04:28 PM
Just like CONCACAF is harder to win than UEFA.

:bowdown:



Put the All NC2A team in EuroBasket, and, at the absolute worst (I'm talking end of the world situation), they get bronze.

You don't have a clue, do you.

The NCAA champion would lose ALL games by an average of 30-50 points, depending on the adversary.

We're talking national teams and grown men.

The US has some 300 million inhabitants, right?

Lithuania has 2. Serbia has 7. Croatia has 4. Greece has 11.

The only teams that could snatch a win are competitive NBA teams such as the Heat, Thunder, Clippers, Bulls... But they would by no means be guaranteed finalists.

But, again, you don't have a clue about international basketball and I have been watching both international ball and the NBA for 30 years.

fandarko
09-24-2013, 04:32 PM
Yeah that's a big part, if team usa sent a college team again you'd see more countries try to win, although USA would still have a shot but not be favourites

Ask any scout knowledgeable about international ball and he will tell you the best NCAA teams would get DESTROYED in a competition such as the European Championship.

I believe that Spain, probably the best team in the tournament, would beat the actual NCAA champs by 50 points at least, if trying.

That's another planet compared to college ball, you just don't have a clue.

fandarko
09-24-2013, 04:35 PM
You really think a college team wouldn't make it out of the group stage? A good college year would still be top 5 in the comp a lot of the time.

They would get beaten by 30 in average and the European teams would probably stop trying after 3 quarters.

Kids vs. grown men, no comparison.

fandarko
09-24-2013, 04:43 PM
If these are supposed to be the best two teams Europe has to offer, I could indeed see a USA team consisting of no players from either the Olympics or FIBA WC, beating them.

Kyrie Irving / John Wall
Klay Thompson / Gordon Hayward
Kwahi Leonard / Paul George
LaMarcas Aldridge / Taj Gibson
DeMarcus Cousins / Andre Drummond


That's our C-Team, and I'll take them over France or Lithuania without a second thought.

No ****ing way this team can beat them, not in an European-rules setting.

fandarko
09-24-2013, 05:18 PM
Just like CONCACAF is harder to win than UEFA.

:bowdown:



Put the All NC2A team in EuroBasket, and, at the absolute worst (I'm talking end of the world situation), they get bronze.

Just consider this:

Team Spain has lost to the Team USA twice by 7 points in two consecutive Olympic finals.
Team USA is at least by 20 points better than the top NBA teams (logically, since they combine the best NBA talent).
Hence, Team Spain would annihliate most NBA teams and win the NBA title.

Team Spain is third in Europe right now. It's realistically the best team when Pau comes back, but where does that put other top European teams that can play with Spain?

Answer: the top 8-12 European teams would be legit teams in the NBA, with the best being strong title contenders.

So I wouldn't underestimate the Eurobasket, although it was indeed played in a somewhat dilluted format (24 teams instead of 16).