Deron Williams already injured; in a walking boot

[Sarcastic]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9690447/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets-sprained-ankle-bone-bruise


The Blueprint

:pimp:

[niko]

Coming off Brook Lopez 2 months injured. I guess it's better to be injured now but recurring foot/ankle injuries aren't great news.

Nets have become a real NY team, the bad news should start flowing constantly now.

[TheReturn]

Shame D-Will hasn't been able to stay healthy, I believe he's a top 3 PG with Rose and Paul when everyone's healthy.

[Real Men Wear Green]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9690447/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets-sprained-ankle-bone-bruise


The Blueprint

:pimp:
And here you celebrate the injury of a man who never did anything to you, just plays for a team that rivals the one you cheer for. I realize that class is dead on the internet but I still feel the need to point out how pathetic some fans can be.

The bad news for you? Williams could break his leg and the Knicks still aren't getting out of the second round. Can't beat Miami, Indy, or Chicago.

[TheReturn]

And here you celebrate the injury of a man who never did anything to you, just plays for a team that rivals the one you cheer for. I realize that class is dead on the internet but I still feel the need to point out how pathetic some fans can be.

The bad news for you? Williams could break his leg and the Knicks still aren't getting out of the second round. Can't beat Miami, Indy, or Chicago.
Post of the day. :applause:

[Sarcastic]

And here you celebrate the injury of a man who never did anything to you, just plays for a team that rivals the one you cheer for. I realize that class is dead on the internet but I still feel the need to point out how pathetic some fans can be.

The bad news for you? Williams could break his leg and the Knicks still aren't getting out of the second round. Can't beat Miami, Indy, or Chicago.


Nice maths you got there. 3 teams are making the second round.

:kobe:

[DukeDelonte13]

If he's ready by the opener does it really matter?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nice maths you got there. 3 teams are making the second round.

:kobe:
Pointing out a typo doesn't reduce the pathetic nature of your post. You can stop now.

[Wavves]

And here you celebrate the injury of a man who never did anything to you, just plays for a team that rivals the one you cheer for. I realize that class is dead on the internet but I still feel the need to point out how pathetic some fans can be.

The bad news for you? Williams could break his leg and the Knicks still aren't getting out of the second round. Can't beat Miami, Indy, or Chicago.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

It's a common thing to see Knicks fans do things like this, that's whats disappointing. There are some good ones out there and a couple on this forum, but fans like this really bring that franchise down.

[iTare]

What a shame, making Knicks fans look bad. :facepalm

[Knicksfever2010]

watch d-will eat his way out of brooklyn. Isnt that what happened last year? He showed up to camp grossly overweight? GOOD! Let Brooklyn and their fans SUFFER - GO ON SUFFER!!!!!

[Kurosawa0]

Shame D-Will hasn't been able to stay healthy, I believe he's a top 3 PG with Rose and Paul when everyone's healthy.

I completely disagree. I was actually having this conversation with a friend the other day. Is Deron Williams really a top 10 point guard?

Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
Stephen Curry
Rajon Rondo
Kyrie Irving

Are all locks to being better than Williams. Then I might even put Mike Conley, John Wall and Damian Lillard as guys I'd rather have.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Deron Williams is the most overrated player in the NBA.

[Doranku]

Deron Williams is the most overrated player in the NBA.

He's not even the most overrated player at his position. That would be Chris Paul.

[TheReturn]

I completely disagree. I was actually having this conversation with a friend the other day. Is Deron Williams really a top 10 point guard?

Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
Stephen Curry
Rajon Rondo
Kyrie Irving

Are all locks to being better than Williams. Then I might even put Mike Conley, John Wall and Damian Lillard as guys I'd rather have.
Yeah that's why I put it a bit delicately, but I knew people would disagree.

-Tony Parker is debatable
-I don't think Russy would be able to lead a team the way D-Will could.
-Kyrie can't defend, but in a couple of years he'll be better, I'll agree on that.
-I find it hard to rank Curry because what he did in last years playoffs is absolute superstar level play. I would say he played better then CP3 as well.

Rondo, Lillard, Conley and Wall are all significantly worse than a healthy D-Will imo.

[Hittin_Shots]

Nice maths you got there. 3 teams are making the second round.

:kobe:

He said they aren't making it out of the second rounds.... If those three teams + the Knicks make the second round Knicks aren't getting out is what he said.... Are you saying that Knicks can't make it out of the first round?

[kNicKz]

And here you celebrate the injury of a man who never did anything to you, just plays for a team that rivals the one you cheer for. I realize that class is dead on the internet but I still feel the need to point out how pathetic some fans can be.

The bad news for you? Williams could break his leg and the Knicks still aren't getting out of the second round. Can't beat Miami, Indy, or Chicago.

Break down of this post:


And here you celebrate the injury of a man who never did anything to you, just plays for a team that rivals the one you cheer for. I realize that class is dead on the internet but I still feel the need to point out how pathetic some fans can be.



A justified way to get rolling. It's definitely uncalled for to celebrate an injury, if that is even what OP was doing . (it was more of an inference)



The bad news for you? Williams could break his leg and the Knicks still aren't getting out of the second round. Can't beat Miami, Indy, or Chicago.

Butthurt agenda for post

Contains light traces of "u mad"

[The JKidd Kid]

It's a sprained ankle the walking boot is simply a precaution it's not actually needed. He said he will be ready for training camp so I'm not really worried.

[pegasus]

He needs to lose weight before getting a more serious injury. He should show up for training in the best shape of his life, because this year will be the best chance (and probably the last) to win a ring if they get lucky a little bit.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Break down of this post:



A justified way to get rolling. It's definitely uncalled for to celebrate an injury, if that is even what OP was doing . (it was more of an inference)



Butthurt agenda for post

Contains light traces of "u mad"
Are you capable of replying to me without being an idiot? ":pimp: " is not exactly an expression of sympathy. You are right in one area: I was upset by the OP's lack of class just like I get annoyed with your stupidity.

[The JKidd Kid]

He needs to lose weight before getting a more serious injury. He should show up for training in the best shape of his life, because this year will be the best chance (and probably the last) to win a ring if they get lucky a little bit.

He's in amazing shape compared to the beginning of last year. Some sources say that he has lost 20 pounds and you can tell by his Instagram photos that he's definately thinner than last season where you could see his stomach sticking out.

[kNicKz]

Another Coach Nick breakdown here


Are you capable of replying to me without being an idiot?

Translation: I really have nothing to say. I am angry and sad


You are right in one area: I was upset by the OP's lack of class just like I get annoyed with your stupidity.

OP clearly was taking a jab at Nets ownership and front office management for assembling a team without considering injuries. Lets face it, you got emotional and are the only person in this thread that is upset. Try tissues
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_super/11/110677/2304795-good_good_let_the_butthurt_flow_through_you_1.jpg

[Legends66NBA7]

Are you capable of replying to me without being an idiot? ":pimp: " is not exactly an expression of sympathy. You are right in one area: I was upset by the OP's lack of class just like I get annoyed with your stupidity.

Knickz will respond the way he does that goes against the Knicks, their fans, and anything New York related, regardless if it's wrong mostly or completely. And since that's most of the time, most on here feel the same way you do.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Another Coach Nick breakdown here



Translation: I really have nothing to say. I am angry and sad



OP clearly was taking a jab at Nets ownership and front office management for assembling a team without considering injuries. Lets face it, you got emotional and are the only person in this thread that is upset. Try tissues
Translation: You're a troll without a point. You never engage in debate on a meaningful level because you aren't capable of it. Come back when you have something useful to say. I won't hold my breath.

[kNicKz]

Translation: You're a troll without a point. You never engage in debate on a meaningful level because you aren't capable of it. Come back when you have something useful to say. I won't hold my breath.

You just ditched everything you originally posted about and now are trying to go at me :roll: Classic

I'm a troll? You're going at someone for posting an article :roll:

You don't give a **** about deron williams or OP. You came into this thread upset and just ditched basketball discussion all together to vent your frustration.

It's ok breh, Chris Davis can't hurt you anymore. It's over

[SilkkTheShocker]

Are you capable of replying to me without being an idiot? ":pimp: " is not exactly an expression of sympathy. You are right in one area: I was upset by the OP's lack of class just like I get annoyed with your stupidity.

What is with you and personal attacks? No idea how you're a mod. You're as unprofessional as it gets.

[kNicKz]

What is with you and personal attacks? No idea how you're a mod. You're as unprofessional as it gets.

This dude is clearly upset about something , I was just curious about what :confusedshrug:

[ILLsmak]

stop trollin broze.

That being said, that would suck if Deron is injured at all this season.

I don't think people can really take injuries into account when assembling a team. That's kind of like planning to fail. Obviously, if you're a team that already has it, you can, but if you get a chance to pick up a bunch of players who may get injured, more than likely you do it.

-Smak

[Real Men Wear Green]

You just ditched everything you originally posted about and now are trying to go at me :roll: Classic

I'm a troll? You're going at someone for posting an article :roll:

You don't give a **** about deron williams or OP. You came into this thread upset and just ditched basketball discussion all together to vent your frustration.

It's ok breh, Chris Davis can't hurt you anymore. It's over
Yes, you're a troll.

[kNicKz]

Yes, you're a troll.

You came in here looking for conflict and got it whether you want to admit that or not. The root of all of this is in the shots thrown in your first post

[Legends66NBA7]

You came in here looking for conflict and got it whether you want to admit that or not. The root of all of this is in the shots thrown in your first post

If OP wasn't a Knick fan, would you have even bothered with this thread ?

[Sarcastic]

If OP wasn't a Knick fan, would you have even bothered with this thread ?


If I weren't a Knick fan, RMWG wouldn't be taking shots in the first place. That's the point.

[Bigsmoke]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9690447/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets-sprained-ankle-bone-bruise


The Blueprint

:pimp:

Celabrating on someones injuries is disgusting to me

[Real Men Wear Green]

If I weren't a Knick fan, RMWG wouldn't be taking shots in the first place. That's the point.
That's a stupid "point." You are celebrating Williams' injury. It's an asshole thing to do. That's why I criticized your post. knickz comes along with his stupid trolling afterwards and you do yourself no good defending his crap.

[Sarcastic]

Celabrating on someones injuries is disgusting to me


It's not celebrating someone's injury. It's mocking an organization that has done nothing other than try to get under the skin of the Knicks since day 1.



If it were a celebration, I would've used :rockon: or :cheers:

[Legends66NBA7]

If I weren't a Knick fan, RMWG wouldn't be taking shots in the first place. That's the point.

So why are you taking shots ? I thought you didn't make agenda driven threads. :confusedshrug:

[niko]

I get the feeling both NY teams will lead the league in one category, injuries. A Knick or Net fan who makes fun of injures (how many times has It'saVC3 laughed and said every knick will get hurt?) is a moron. People not aware what #knickstape refers to?

[It's A VC3!!!]

It's a very light sprain but still, I don't even want Deron to have ankle sprains. His ankle is very susceptible to injury these days. No star on the Nets have missed more than two weeks of playing time but we really need Deron to be injury free.

[G-train]

Sarcastic is sad, little man so it's to be expected.

[G-train]

It's not celebrating someone's injury. It's mocking an organization that has done nothing other than try to get under the skin of the Knicks since day 1.



If it were a celebration, I would've used :rockon: or :cheers:

Deron Williams has stayed out of the trash talking actually, at least the last few weeks from what I have read. He isn't the whole organisation, but he is the subject of this thread.

[DuMa]

Im expecting the Nets to have the most missed games for each starter this season anyway

[niko]

It's a very light sprain but still, I don't even want Deron to have ankle sprains. His ankle is very susceptible to injury these days. No star on the Nets have missed more than two weeks of playing time but we really need Deron to be injury free.

Better to be hurt now than later.

[kNicKz]

If I weren't a Knick fan, RMWG wouldn't be taking shots in the first place. That's the point.

He's an angry man :roll:

[Jameerthefear]

itt knicks fans being retarded.... again.

[kNicKz]

itt knicks fans being retarded.... again.

LOL

I'm not even gonna go in on you...nvm

you fap to sibling anime porn bruh

[Sarcastic]

Deron Williams has stayed out of the trash talking actually, at least the last few weeks from what I have read. He isn't the whole organisation, but he is the subject of this thread.


:facepalm


He literally just took shots at the Knicks tonight on Twitter. He deleted the tweet though.


http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1274488


Keep trying to portray the Knicks fans as the ones who are going after them since it fits your agenda.

[Legends66NBA7]

Keep trying to portray the Knicks fans as the ones who are going after them since it fits your agenda.

You say that as if you don't have an agenda either.

[poido123]

Heard he's been working hard in the offseason.

Would be a shame to see the Nets injury-riddled all year, with the talent they have on their team.

Hopefully it's just a minor hiccup and he's ready to go for the start of the season.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Heard it on Netsdaily, no big deal as he will be ready for training camp, worst case scenario he will not play in a few pre-season games. Funny knicks fans getting so hyper on a minor Deron injury, such insecurity is so fun to watch.
:lol

[KNOW1EDGE]

I completely disagree. I was actually having this conversation with a friend the other day. Is Deron Williams really a top 10 point guard?

Chris Paul
Derrick Rose
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
Stephen Curry
Rajon Rondo
Kyrie Irving

Are all locks to being better than Williams. Then I might even put Mike Conley, John Wall and Damian Lillard as guys I'd rather have.

The only guys who are "locks" over a healthy Deron Williams are CP3 and Rose.

I think Derons best days are behind him, but people forget that for a while he was arguably the best pg in the NBA.

[Trentknicks]

Heard it on Netsdaily, no big deal as he will be ready for training camp, worst case scenario he will not play in a few pre-season games. Funny knicks fans getting so hyper on a minor Deron injury, such insecurity is so fun to watch.
:lol
And yet check into any Knicks related thread and your insecurities are constantly being posted, I can see why your mad.

[Fresh Kid]

:lol :oldlol: :oldlol: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[The JKidd Kid]

And yet check into any Knicks related thread and your insecurities are constantly being posted, I can see why your mad.

Kiddlovesnets barely posts anymore and there are about 8 Knicks fans talking shit in this thread, just to put it into perspective.

[Wavves]

:lol :oldlol: :oldlol: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Why is it funny?

[niko]

Kiddlovesnets barely posts anymore and there are about 8 Knicks fans talking shit in this thread, just to put it into perspective.
There was one Knick fan posted a stupid thread. Then there were a whole bunch of KNICKS SUCKS posts, Then people started fighting back. The only difference if you post NETS SUCKS is there are 1/20th of you on the board.

Wait if you are good and all the people start calling themselves Net fans and posting stupid shit. Somehow i think you'll dissassociate yourself from them. But Knicks fans, trolls obviously always represent the fan base.

If those morons represent Knick fans, then KiddlovesNets is the prototype Nets fans.

[Unforgiven]

Brooklyn's biggest enemy, Father Time and injuries.

I don't think they will get to the post season healthy enough to be a serious threat.

[Trentknicks]

Why is it funny?
Because Richmond is a first week exit to an included 9th place.

Stay mad for another 12 years :oldlol:

[Trentknicks]

Kiddlovesnets barely posts anymore and there are about 8 Knicks fans talking shit in this thread, just to put it into perspective.
Because there are like 4 nets fans, altogether, not just on the boards.

[niko]

Kiddlovesnets barely posts anymore and there are about 8 Knicks fans talking shit in this thread, just to put it into perspective.
Do you live in the area? Are you a Brooklynite (like me) or jsut an outside the area person who fell in love with the Kidd era running Nets?

[The JKidd Kid]

Do you live in the area? Are you a Brooklynite (like me) or jsut an outside the area person who fell in love with the Kidd era running Nets?

I'm a Brooklynite. As a kid growing up during the Kidd era/ early 2000s, you can imagine why I became a Nets fan instead of a Knicks fan.

[The JKidd Kid]

Because there are like 4 nets fans, altogether, not just on the boards.

Again with the insults, why can't you just have a normal conversation?

[Wavves]

Because Richmond is a first week exit to an included 9th place.

Stay mad for another 12 years :oldlol:

That isn't relevant at all.

Knick fans continuing to show that they are scum.

[I<3NBA]

this is the Nets' season preview. kind of like the Lakers' last season.

they old man. they old.

[Sarcastic]

You say that as if you don't have an agenda either.


This thread was to present the news with a slight poke at the Nets organization. Do you really consider that an agenda driven thread compared to making up wild hypotheticals trying to boost a favorite player? If you don't see the difference, then I don't know what to say. You are comparing 1 emoticon to multiple paragraphs.

[It's A VC3!!!]

this is the Nets' season preview. kind of like the Lakers' last season.

they old man. they old.
Except for the huge difference that the Lakers were two or three deep. The Nets are 10 deep. Not to mention that each of our stars last season missed no more than 10 games. Each of the Lakers stars last season missed more than 20 games and the second biggest star did not even want to be there. How does any of what I said resemble the Nets situation.

[Trentknicks]

That isn't relevant at all.

Knick fans continuing to show that they are scum.
Neither are Richmond :roll:

If your going to show your obsession by coming into every Knicks thread, prepare to cop some shit.

[Trentknicks]

Except for the huge difference that the Lakers were two or three deep. The Nets are 10 deep. Not to mention that each of our stars last season missed no more than 10 games. Each of the Lakers stars last season missed more than 20 games and the second biggest star did not even want to be there. How does any of what I said resemble the Nets situation.
http://i.qkme.me/35eeev.jpg

[Wavves]

Neither are Richmond :roll:

If your going to show your obsession by coming into every Knicks thread, prepare to cop some shit.

I don't have an obsession with the Knicks, nor do I join discussion on every Knicks thread. :rolleyes:

[Trentknicks]

I don't have an obsession with the Knicks, nor do I join discussion on every Knicks thread. :rolleyes:
Then kindly leave, never to return, and reclaim what's left of your 40+ year old life.

[Wavves]

Then kindly leave, never to return, and reclaim what's left of your 40+ year old life.

I'm 18 years old but okay...

[niko]

Except for the huge difference that the Lakers were two or three deep. The Nets are 10 deep. Not to mention that each of our stars last season missed no more than 10 games. Each of the Lakers stars last season missed more than 20 games and the second biggest star did not even want to be there. How does any of what I said resemble the Nets situation.
I think you can reasonably argue that Garnett isn't thrilled to be there. He's going to be his workmanlike self but both him and Pierce seem more anti Knick, anti Celtic than excited to be Nets.

Injuries isn't going to be your problem, attrition is. Garnett, Pierce, AK47, JJ last year, all of these guys are guys who by the time the playoffs come will have nagging thigns bothering them. Will they be effective? Pierce wasn't, JJ wasn't, Garnett was but running out of gas late first round. That's the issue.

[It's A VC3!!!]

I think you can reasonably argue that Garnett isn't thrilled to be there. He's going to be his workmanlike self but both him and Pierce seem more anti Knick, anti Celtic than excited to be Nets.

Injuries isn't going to be your problem, attrition is. Garnett, Pierce, AK47, JJ last year, all of these guys are guys who by the time the playoffs come will have nagging thigns bothering them. Will they be effective? Pierce wasn't, JJ wasn't, Garnett was but running out of gas late first round. That's the issue.
Kevin just had an interview in China saying how ecstatic he is to be a Net. Unless you want to completely dismiss that comment and judge his demeanor during his press conference only, then you can argue it. He waived his no-trade clause, which means that he wanted to be a Net. Plus, even if he isn't "thrilled" to be here, which is not true, it's different then hating playing for your team like Dwight did. Dwight hated being a Laker and hated being under Kobe's tutelage.

[niko]

Kevin just had an interview in China saying how ecstatic he is to be a Net. Unless you want to completely dismiss that comment and judge his demeanor during his press conference only, then you can argue it. He waived his no-trade clause, which means that he wanted to be a Net. Plus, even if he isn't "thrilled" to be here, which is not true, it's different then hating playing for your team like Dwight did. Dwight hated being a Laker and hated being under Kobe's tutelage.
The nets guaranteed $12M extra money which is why he came. No it's not Dwight where he hated being a Laker. But people wanting to tell me how excited Kevin Garnett is can talk to someone else, he clearly was very blah about it, i'm sure he'll be more lively as the season starts because he likes to play and I'm sure somewhere along the line someone gets to him and tells him to be more rah rah. But the initial interviews he was in a coma and looked unhappy.

Don't tell me his words, do you think he'll say "no i rather have gone to LA and run at the beach but this is the only way i get paid and don't stay on a shitty team?" He didn't look excited at all, and he's a hyper guy. He had a bunch of options he wanted, I'm sure the Nets is top five, but it wasn't #1.

[ChuckOakley]

At least it happened now.

And at least it happened while working out and not from kicking a fire extinguisher.

He'll be fine and back to his 22/8 on 48%/42% self like he was post ASG.
Well, maybe his PPG won't be that high with BK's depth..

I was on record on at least 2 sites saying the Knicks would finish higher than the Nets last year. Don't think that happens this year.

Did the Nets get older?
Sure.
Did the Knicks get younger?
Sure.
But even with their old team they had their best season with 15 years and the veteran leadership and IQ of Kidd, Sheed and KT will be missed, as will the shooting of Copeland and Novak. (Barganani has been a poor shooter for ages). I also don't think MWP (amnestied by the wealthiest team looking to make to the playoffs.. think about that) will help much.

Meanwhile what injuries hurt the Knicks the most?
The injuries to the younger guys.
Melo, Shumpert, Amare, now JR is injured and I don't think MWP is healthy either.

Also....Who are the 10 old teams this year?
Miami Heat
Brooklyn Nets
Los Angeles Lakers
New York Knicks
San Antonio Spurs
Dallas Mavericks
Los Angeles Clippers
Indiana Pacers
Chicago Bulls
Memphis Grizzlies

Not bad company.


Will Nets miss games?
Of course.
Every team will have players that miss time.


Not every team has the depth the Nets have were so many players can play so many positions.

PG: D.Williams / Livingston / Taylor / Terry
SG: Johnson / Terry / A.Anderson / P.Pierce / D.Williams
SF: Pierce / AK / Toko / JJ / A.Anderson
PF: Garnett / Evans / Teletovic / Blatche / AK
C: Lopez / Blatche / Plumlee / Garnett

Key is to keep them healthy for the playoffs.

The Nets also made some minor upgrades:

Hump --> KG
G.Wallace --> Pierce
Bogans --> AK
M.Brooks --> J.Terry
Stackhouse --> A.Anderson

Sadly, all those on the left were rotation players last year who will be 3rd stringers for the most part in Boston (who is a bad team)

Are PP and KG done?
Far from it...

-Pierce was one of 3 players to average 18/6/4 players lats year.. the others?
LBJ and Durant. He did so on great percentages after the ASG (49/43%)

--Garnett has a three game stretch in the playoff series against the Knicks where averaged 17 rebounds a game, In Games 2, 3 and 4, KG had 18, 17 and 17 boards. In fact, during the series, where he averaged an uncharacteristic 35 minutes a game, he averaged 13.7 rebounds and 3.5 assists to go with his 12.7 scoring average ... on 50 percent shooting. Very KG.

--Pierce had a triple double against the Hawks on March 29, with 20 points, 10 rebounds and 10 assists. It was his third triple double of the season, the most triple-doubles he's had in 10 years. In his first triple double of the season, Pierce had 17, 13 and 10 in an overtime win over the Heat.

--Garnett had six games of 20 and 10, as well as two other games of 19 and 10 and a game of 20 and 9. In a February 10 overtime win over Denver, KG has 20 points, 18 rebounds, six assists, three blocks and two steals ... in 47 minutes of action. Pierce played 54 minutes that night and finished with 27, 14 and 14. So the two combined for 47 points, 32 rebounds and 20 assists.

--Pierce had back-to-back games of 40 and 35 just before Christmas. In those two games, he shot a combined 26-of-39, or 66.7 percent, including 9-of-14 from deep, 64.3 percent. For the month of December, Pierce averaged 20.8 points, 4.9 rebounds and 4.6 assists. Of the 14 games that month, he played 40 or more minutes four times. His worst game that month, Christmas Day vs the Nets, he scored only eight points, but had 10 assists.

--Garnett had better averages in back-to-back games with no rest (15.5 points) than he did with three or more days rest (14.5). His rebounds did get better with more rest (9.0 to 7.0). Playing against the NBA's young centers, he did well enough, with games of 18 and 10 vs. Roy Hibbert and 16 and 10 vs. Brook Lopez.

--Pierce also excelled in back-to-backs with no rest (21.2 points) compared to games with three or more days of rest (17.8). Where he really excelled in back-to-back games was shooting. In the 18 games where he had no rest between games, he shot 42 percent from deep, 48.1 percent overall.


Long story short, I normally am very pessimistic (realistic and right is more like it) about the Nets. Even with my pessimism, I think it's plain as day that this a better team than NY.

We went 2-2 against NY last year
(1 loss being the Kidd offensive foul that Lopez missed)

And all games were before the ASG, meaning the Knicks saw 17/7 Deron who shot (41%/35%), not 23/8 Deron on 48/43%. The Knicks also didn't see KG, PP, AK, JT or AA.

Predictions: Nets win the Atlantic by at least 3 games
Nets win at least 3 of 4 in the RS
If they meet in the PO, Nets win in 5 or 6.

NY is just not a playoff built team.
They are good for the regular season as they have vets, 3 point shooting, chemistry and are offensive based, but for the playoffs most of those advantages are lost, and more importantly they have Melo who:
-has the worst wining % of all time in the PO (meaning the series are not competitive)
-NY is 7-14 in PO games with Melo
-NY is 1-3 in PO series with Melo (the lone win against a team missing their best player)

Are the Nets?
They weren't last year.
They had no heart, chemistry, experience or leadership and their coaching was awful.
Losing to the Bulls was the best thing that happened to them. It identified their weakness, made them plan as day, and as a result they went out and addressed them as very best they could.

They added heart/leadership/experience in KG, PP, JT
They added chemistry from the Boston guys plus AK played with D.Will for years in Utah.
They have a much better coaching staff (not hard to replace the 3rd worst coach of all time)

They also kept 4/5 starters from a 49 win team + their 6th man (Blatche) and got rid of the negative energy of Humphries, Brooks and Wallace. So their chemistry will be much improved. Speaking of 49 wins.. 9 new players, 2 new starers, Wallace and Lopez never played before, 2 bad coaches, year 1. Not worried about this team taking time to mesh.

[Fresh Kid]

Again with the insults, why can't you just have a normal conversation?
somebody mad:oldlol:

[Fresh Kid]

That isn't relevant at all.

Knick fans continuing to show that they are scum.
says tha blazers fan:lol

[Legends66NBA7]

This thread was to present the news with a slight poke at the Nets organization. Do you really consider that an agenda driven thread compared to making up wild hypotheticals trying to boost a favorite player? If you don't see the difference, then I don't know what to say. You are comparing 1 emoticon to multiple paragraphs.

I'm not just talking about this. I've seen your previous comments on other players, whether it's made in a thread or comments in another thread. It's evident you have an agenda, when you said you didn't.

[niko]

This was clearly an agenda thread. That's not a discussion. I'd like the "all knick fans" bullshit to stop though, when Sillk makes a thread we laugh at him, when a knick troll does it, it's all knick fans. Bullshit. All that does is turn every conversation into an argument.

[Stempel, HERB]

This was clearly an agenda thread. That's not a discussion. I'd like the "all knick fans" bullshit to stop though, when Sillk makes a thread we laugh at him, when a knick troll does it, it's all knick fans. Bullshit. All that does is turn every conversation into an argument.
You've been doing the same thing for years and now you want the bullshit to stop? You're a joke.

[niko]

You've been doing the same thing for years and now you want the bullshit to stop? You're a joke.

Try harder.

[Fresh Kid]

this thread iz hilarious, nets fans are worried already, all that shit talking hyping up a senior citizen and overrated team, o what a time:oldlol:

[joeyjoejoe]

But Niko things are just starting to twist

[Nets fan 93]

Yeah that's why I put it a bit delicately, but I knew people would disagree.

-Tony Parker is debatable
-I don't think Russy would be able to lead a team the way D-Will could.
-Kyrie can't defend, but in a couple of years he'll be better, I'll agree on that.
-I find it hard to rank Curry because what he did in last years playoffs is absolute superstar level play. I would say he played better then CP3 as well.

Rondo, Lillard, Conley and Wall are all significantly worse than a healthy D-Will imo.
Agreed

[The JKidd Kid]

Yeah that's why I put it a bit delicately, but I knew people would disagree.

-Tony Parker is debatable
-I don't think Russy would be able to lead a team the way D-Will could.
-Kyrie can't defend, but in a couple of years he'll be better, I'll agree on that.
-I find it hard to rank Curry because what he did in last years playoffs is absolute superstar level play. I would say he played better then CP3 as well.

Rondo, Lillard, Conley and Wall are all significantly worse than a healthy D-Will imo.

I disagree about Rose. Deron is a more versatile player and a better PG than Rose. Deron Williams run offense>>>>>>>>>> Rose ran offense, which is made evident in Boozers All Star play under Williams, while under Rose he's an overpaid peice of shit. I also think people are overrating Kyrie tremendously just because he was the #1 overall pick, I honestly don't see him becoming more than a poor mans Gilbert Arenas.

[TheReturn]

I disagree about Rose. Deron is a more versatile player and a better PG than Rose. Deron Williams run offense>>>>>>>>>> Rose ran offense, which is made evident in Boozers All Star play under Williams, while under Rose he's an overpaid peice of shit. I also think people are overrating Kyrie tremendously just because he was the #1 overall pick, I honestly don't see him becoming more than a poor mans Gilbert Arenas.
Either you're just baiting, or you don't know basketball. D-Will has never had the same impact on a team Rose can have. Boozer was playing injured and has been playing much better since. His main problem is the fact that he can't defend.

Worst of all, if you can't see that Kyrie has all the tools to possibly become one of the greatest PGs of all time.....

[Legends66NBA7]

D-Will has never had the same impact on a team Rose can have.

What do you base this off ?


Worst of all, if you can't see that Kyrie has all the tools to possibly become one of the greatest PGs of all time.....

He needs to stay healthy first and then also improve his defense. Nothing suggests that right now outside of potential and skill.

[TheReturn]

What do you base this off ?
The eye test. Maybe I put it a bit strong, because it's pretty subjective.


He needs to stay healthy first and then also improve his defense. Nothing suggests that right now outside of potential and skill.
That's what I'm saying, he has the tools. He obviously has to get better though.

[The JKidd Kid]

Either you're just baiting, or you don't know basketball. D-Will has never had the same impact on a team Rose can have. Boozer was playing injured and has been playing much better since. His main problem is the fact that he can't defend.

Worst of all, if you can't see that Kyrie has all the tools to possibly become one of the greatest PGs of all time.....

I understand that you're a Bulls fan but to say that Williams has neve impacted a game like Rose does is just ignorant, maybe not at the beginning of this season but he's arguably impacted the game more than Rose considering the way he sets up teammates, spreads the floor and is a huge factor when he doesn't have the ball because of his shooting. Also, Boozer obviously played better with Deron as his PG anyone that denies it didn't watch them in Utah.

And no, I don't see anything special in Kyrie. He doesn't make his team mates better and he doesn't have the physical tools or effort to be good on defense. When you ignore the #1 overall pick, Lebrons replacement hype, you'll see that he's just another flashy scorer with good marketing.

[TheReturn]

I understand that you're a Bulls fan but to say that Williams has neve impacted a game like Rose does is just ignorant, maybe not at the beginning of this season but he's arguably impacted the game more than Rose considering the way he sets up teammates, spreads the floor and is a huge factor when he doesn't have the ball because of his shooting. Also, Boozer obviously played better with Deron as his PG anyone that denies it didn't watch them in Utah.

And no, I don't see anything special in Kyrie. He doesn't make his team mates better and he doesn't have the physical tools or effort to be good on defense. When you ignore the #1 overall pick, Lebrons replacement hype, you'll see that he's just another flashy scorer with good marketing.
Let's agree to disagree. Both these things are clear as day to me and I don't need you to agree with me or vice versa.

[CanYouDigIt]

Deron Williams has 5 Years left on his contract and already needs to be covered in bubble wrap. :lol :facepalm

Brooklyn will sadly have 2-3 more productive years in his belt before he becomes a role player.