Vassilis Spanoulis (hurt or not) isn't an NBA player. ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME.

[Euroleague]

So, we are supposed to believe from the NBA only fans here that "the NBA is vastly superior to the Euroleague because the Euroleague MVP only averaged 2.7 points per game in the NBA."

This same troll line has been used about 500 times in this forum.

Yet, somehow, the Euroleague MVP, playing with a severely injured ankle (he already got put on the injury list by Olympiacos)...


managed to be the #3 scorer in a tournament with 29 current NBA players and 11 current NBA starters at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket.


11 current starters in the NBA were playing at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket, and yet, the Euroleague MVP (playing injured) was the tournament's #3 scorer.


Statistical PROOF:

http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/cid_8Xfg3jZMG1QuJnp6pnUWd3.pageID_FGXd9ExbII-hQNQEBcgQi3.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2 013.html


Strange how the NBA can be "vastly superior to the Euroleague because the Euroleague MVP could not even make an NBA roster" (that troll claim has been used about 1000 times here by NBA only fans).......

Of course the NBA only fans will now come up with a hundred more imaginary, fake and made up excuses to explain this.

But the fact is that the Euroleague MVP, playing injured, was the #3 scorer at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket with 29 current NBA players and 11 current NBA starters.

So all of the claims the NBA only fans make about the level of the NBA versus the Euroleague were officially proven to be wrong and untrue.

The NBA CANNOT be "vastly superior to the Euroleague", when the Euroleague MVP, playing injured, is able to be the #3 scorer in a tournament that has 29 current NBA players and 11 current NBA starters.

So the NBA only fans and Euroleague haters are officially BUSTED.

[Budadiiii]

Can't argue with facts.

[Andrew Wiggins]

Can't argue with facts.

yea you can

http://i44.tinypic.com/rvwwib.png

oh snap :eek: :roll:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

In all fairness, these NBA players don't play to their full potential. Why risk getting injured in exhibition games? :confusedshrug:

[SpanishACB]

#3?

he is clearly #1
http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/default.asp?cid=%7B221A6A0E-D8D6-4016-B84F-1CC6CF17A09F%7D&pageID=%7B3D086724-EEE5-492F-AB69-768E2E6A9AB3%7D&compID=%7BD166E39E-2323-4863-B229-76357A926FA2%7D&season=2013&statCat=TO



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[Euroleague]

yea you can

http://i44.tinypic.com/rvwwib.png

oh snap :eek: :roll:

http://s18.postimg.org/wtb04o6vd/scorers.jpg


STOP TROLLING

[KG215]

#3?

he is clearly #1
http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/default.asp?cid=%7B221A6A0E-D8D6-4016-B84F-1CC6CF17A09F%7D&pageID=%7B3D086724-EEE5-492F-AB69-768E2E6A9AB3%7D&compID=%7BD166E39E-2323-4863-B229-76357A926FA2%7D&season=2013&statCat=TO



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4.2 turnovers per game and 2.5 assists per game. For every one assist he was turning it over 1.5 times. Oh, and apparently he's the best PG in the world according to Euroleague.

[Budadiiii]

4.2 turnovers per game and 2.5 assists per game. For every one assist he was turning it over 1.5 times. Oh, and apparently he's the best PG in the world according to Euroleague.
16 points, 4 turnovers, 2 assists, on 43% in 6 games.

How great is our gawd. :bowdown:

[Euroleague]

4.2 turnovers per game and 2.5 assists per game. For every one assist he was turning it over 1.5 times. Oh, and apparently he's the best PG in the world according to Euroleague.

According to you, Ricky Rubio is "the best passer in the world". You only claimed it about 5,000 times here.

Ricky Rubio = 3.4 assists per game

http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/cid_8Xfg3jZMG1QuJnp6pnUWd3.teamID_362.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_53827.html

"best passer in the world" according to KG215

Ricky Rubio averaged 7.3 assists per game in the NBA in 2012-13, and 8.2 assists per game in the NBA in 2011-12.

In the "vastly superior NBA"...........

But only manages 3.4 assists per game in the "minor leagues of Europe".

Note - words in quotes are the own words of KG215 in dozens of posts here.

[Myth]

3 years of this shit and haven't convinced 1 poster. Why do you still waste your time trying?

[Eric Cartman]

16 points, 4 turnovers, 2 assists, on 43% in 6 games.

How great is our gawd. :bowdown:

This.

[KG215]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/jdbudget/VassilisSpanoulisEurobasketStats_zpsb06e6307.png

:bowdown:

Best PG in the world!

[KG215]

According to you, Ricky Rubio is "the best passer in the world". You only claimed it about 5,000 times here.

Ricky Rubio = 3.4 assists per game

http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/cid_8Xfg3jZMG1QuJnp6pnUWd3.teamID_362.compID_qMRZd YCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2013.roundID_8722.playerI D_53827.html

"best passer in the world" according to KG215

Ricky Rubio averaged 7.3 assists per game in the NBA in 2012-13, and 8.2 assists per game in the NBA in 2011-12.

In the "vastly superior NBA"...........

But only manages 3.4 assists per game in the "minor leagues of Europe".

Note - words in quotes are the own words of KG215 in dozens of posts here.
Not once have I called Rubio the best passer in the world. If you can find just one post where I've said Rubio was the best passer in the world I'll never post on ISH again.

[Euroleague]

Not once have I called Rubio the best passer in the world. If you can find just one post where I've said Rubio was the best poster in the world I'll never post on ISH again.

You have claimed it hundreds of times.

You started trolling and once again you got busted. According to you, Rubio is "by far and away better than any guard in Europe" and he "dominated Europe".

Yet again, 3.4 assists per game in that "inferior minor league", but 7.3 and 8.2 assists per game in that "vastly superior NBA".

[Bandito]

Why didn't you include the turnovers stat?

[Euroleague]

http://s24.postimg.org/uoh4lhtwl/rubio.jpg

"Most dominant player in the history of Europe"

:bowdown:

[KG215]

You have claimed it hundreds of times.

You started trolling and once again you got busted. According to you Rubio is "by far and away better than any guard in Europe" and he "dominated Europe".

Yet again, 3.4 assists per game in that "inferior minor league".
:oldlol:

This is how I know you're at least partially trolling and not just batshit insane. I've never called him the best passer in the world, let alone claim it hundreds of times. All I've said is that there's a pretty good chance Rubio wasn't nearly as bad in Europe as you claim. I've also pointed out that there's a better than good chance he simply matured and got better since coming to the NBA given how young he was when he was playing in Europe.


Oh, and I've also never said he was the most dominant player in the history of Europe, but keep trying. Meanwhile you've called Spanoulis the best or third best player in the world and multiple people have seen the posts. Meanwhile you're just making shit up about what I've said. But hey, if it entertains you have at it. No one takes you seriously anyway.

[Euroleague]

:oldlol:

This is how I know you're at least partially trolling and not just batshit insane. I've never called him the best passer in the world, let alone claim it hundreds of times. All I've said is that there's a pretty good chance Rubio wasn't nearly as bad in Europe as you claim. I've also pointed out that there's a better than good chance he simply matured and got better since coming to the NBA given how young he was when he was playing in Europe.


Oh, and I've also never said he was the most dominant player in the history of Europe, but keep trying. Meanwhile you've called Spanoulis the best or third best player in the world and multiple people have seen the posts. Meanwhile you're just making shit up about what I've said. But hey, if it entertains you have at it. No one takes you seriously anyway.

Yeah, you got exposed for trolling and being wrong yet again.

[gabepizza]

He also led the tournament in turnovers and led his team to an 11th place finish
http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/default.asp?cid=%7B221A6A0E-D8D6-4016-B84F-1CC6CF17A09F%7D&pageID=%7B3D086724-EEE5-492F-AB69-768E2E6A9AB3%7D&compID=%7BD166E39E-2323-4863-B229-76357A926FA2%7D&season=2013&statCat=TO

[nathanjizzle]

so youre basing the entire talent pool of euroleague based on one player?

okay then. now compare euroleagues mvp to nba's mvp lebron. is it even close? :roll:

[Euroleague]

He also led the tournament in turnovers and led his team to an 11th place finish
http://www.eurobasket2013.org/en/default.asp?cid=%7B221A6A0E-D8D6-4016-B84F-1CC6CF17A09F%7D&pageID=%7B3D086724-EEE5-492F-AB69-768E2E6A9AB3%7D&compID=%7BD166E39E-2323-4863-B229-76357A926FA2%7D&season=2013&statCat=TO

11th place is higher than a whole bunch of current NBA players finished in the same tournament.

John Wooden said that the best player always averaged the most turnovers and that the player with the most turnovers is always the top player in the competition.

If you ever have an actual point feel free to make it.

[Bandito]

I think Euroleague is Jeff in disguise. Because everytime nothing's going on he appears and trolls trying to get viewership up when the board is dead. COincidence?

[KG215]

11th place is higher than a whole bunch of current NBA players finished in the same tournament.

John Wooden said that the best player always averaged the most turnovers and that the player with the most turnovers is always the top player in the competition.

If you ever have an actual point feel free to make it.
:oldlol:

Prove it. Give us the exact quote and a link.

[Nuff Said]

Jeff needs to gon and open up a euro basketball forum so this guy can take this shit on over there and leave the nba forums where no one gives a shit

[dr.hee]

I think Euroleague is Jeff in disguise. Because everytime nothing's going on he appears and trolls trying to get viewership up when the board is dead. COincidence?

Found a pic of Euroleague chilling in Arkansas, that's not Jeff...

http://s1.directupload.net/images/130923/vp8ubnb6.jpg

[outbreak]

Seriously? None says rubio dominated Europe or is the best passer. We were all aguing against you claiming he was the worst player in the league. He wasn't great but half his time there he was under 18 and he showed promise but didn't really succeed. Was far from the worst player as you claim. Also who gives a shit how many nba players were in this comp. Youmore than half the number you mention are ex players who couldn't cut i, bench guys and role players. I'm sure v span could find a role in the nba, people trollyou when they say he's crap. He's a high quality player but he didn't fit in the nba and couldn't beat out the otherplayers on his teams roster. Their two lleague's with two styles

[Bandito]

Found a pic of Euroleague chilling in Arkansas, that's not Jeff...

http://s1.directupload.net/images/130923/vp8ubnb6.jpg
Well I can't be right all the time, right?:oldlol:

[SpurrDurr]

11th place is higher than a whole bunch of current NBA players finished in the same tournament.

John Wooden said that the best player always averaged the most turnovers and that the player with the most turnovers is always the top player in the competition.

If you ever have an actual point feel free to make it.

This is the biggest bullshit i've read in a while.

I wouldn't be suprised if there was a girl chained in your basement.

[OmniStrife]

3 years of this shit and haven't convinced 1 poster. Why do you still waste your time trying?
This. On so many levels...
Why not use that wasted time on something more productive?
Like feeding the homeless or teaching kids how to read?

[Nash]

11th place is higher than a whole bunch of current NBA players finished in the same tournament.

John Wooden said that the best player always averaged the most turnovers and that the player with the most turnovers is always the top player in the competition.

If you ever have an actual point feel free to make it.
Oh feck off :oldlol: :oldlol:

Guess Lebron isn't the best player in the league. He must work on making more turnovers.

:coleman:

[Rooster]

Still waiting for the 1st GREEK to average more than 4 points in the NBA.:roll:

[Phenith]

http://s24.postimg.org/uoh4lhtwl/rubio.jpg

"Most dominant player in the history of Europe"

:bowdown:

I'd take that statline over the one V-Span put up... 10 less mins a game too.

[madmax]

Still waiting for the 1st GREEK to average more than 4 points in the NBA.:roll:

:lol :oldlol:

[kNicKz]

Turnoulis

[Iceman#44]

Had spanoulis ever averaged at least 20 ppg in any kind of league-tournament? Eurobasket euroleague greek league etc? Has he ever scored 40 in a game? Just wondering..

[Twiens]

Couldn't even finish top 8 in Europe :roll:

[Haymaker]

He's a ballhog.

[talamo]

He's a ballhog.

damn near 5 turnovers a game seems like he doesnt mind passing to the other team :lol

[Unbiased_one]

STOP TROLLING

His scoring average was inflated by the fact he didn't make the later rounds to play better competition. Also, Parker was the only real quality nba player playing. I don't think anyone disputes the fact that some players in Europe could play in the nba, but the overall quality of the nba is much much higher. Let's not pretend that someone like spanoulis would be an all star or anything...he would be a decent rotation player most likely. If spanoulis were on the heat, he would barely have played in the playoffs.

Also spanoulis was terrible in this tournament. He scored well but turned the ball over a lot and doesn't appear to be a competent defender at all (I watched 4 Greece games FYI).

[Le Shaqtus]

I'd rather have 10 Tony Montana's on this board instead of Euroleague.

I've never seen such a bad troll spew so much bullshit in my life.

[cos88]

i really hope the euroleague poster is controled by guys than run the site, or is an alt just for trollin.

you can't be this stupid, getting embarassed time after time after time. it's just sad at this point. if this dude is for real ... i just feel bad for him, he probably doesn't have anything in his misarable life besides a internet connection.

[KG215]

I'd rather have 10 Tony Montana's on this board instead of Euroleague.

I've never seen such a bad troll spew so much bullshit in my life.
At least TonyMontana (as far as I know) doesn't just make shit up and try to pass it off as fact. Whether it be quotes, stats or something else, a lot of what Euroleague posts is just made up shit and flatout lies. And he has to know it, too. No way in hell he thinks I have said Rubio was the best passer in the world or the most dominant player in European history hundreds of times, because I haven't said it once. And no way in hell he thinks John Wooden actually said the best player is the one that has the most turnovers.

It's when he puts words in my mouth or other poster's mouths and just completely fabricates quotes by pulling them out of his ass is when I know he's for sure trolling. Other times I think he's actually just legitimately batshit insane, though.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

http://s24.postimg.org/uoh4lhtwl/rubio.jpg

"Most dominant player in the history of Europe"

:bowdown:

Hes only playing 20 minutes per game...

[KG215]

Hes only playing 20 minutes per game...
And at least he was dishing out 2.5 assists per 1 turnover whereas Spanoulis was committing nearly 1.5 turnovers per 1 assist.

[LikeABosh]

He played against like 5 NBA players, none of which are really good. Literally every good NBA player besides Tony Parker wasnt in this shitty tournament

[Derka]

I don't get it.

Are you Jeff's alt account? Some other admin's alt account? An admin's child/sibling with severely stunted social/emotional growth? Are you blackmailing site admins with pics of them engaged in wild sex with farm animals?

If not one of these things, I can't find a single reason why you're allowed near this forum. You can't be a troll because there's no way you find this funny. No one is this socially retarded.

[Euroleague]

Seriously? None says rubio dominated Europe or is the best passer. We were all aguing against you claiming he was the worst player in the league. He wasn't great but half his time there he was under 18 and he showed promise but didn't really succeed. Was far from the worst player as you claim. Also who gives a shit how many nba players were in this comp. Youmore than half the number you mention are ex players who couldn't cut i, bench guys and role players. I'm sure v span could find a role in the nba, people trollyou when they say he's crap. He's a high quality player but he didn't fit in the nba and couldn't beat out the otherplayers on his teams roster. Their two lleague's with two styles

More trolling from you, as usual.

I said there were 29 CURRENT NBA players in the tournament.

29 CURRENT NBA PLAYERS

There were 49 NBA players at the tournament in total.

So no, "half" of the current 29 NBA players are not "ex NBA players". Please just STOP the trolling. Or do you not know what the English word current means?

[Euroleague]

Oh feck off :oldlol: :oldlol:

Guess Lebron isn't the best player in the league. He must work on making more turnovers.

:coleman:

John Wooden said that and taught that. And he's universally considered the greatest basketball coach of all time.

[Euroleague]

:lol :oldlol:

You do realize that Peja and Seikaly count as Greek players right?

[Euroleague]

His scoring average was inflated by the fact he didn't make the later rounds to play better competition. Also, Parker was the only real quality nba player playing. I don't think anyone disputes the fact that some players in Europe could play in the nba, but the overall quality of the nba is much much higher. Let's not pretend that someone like spanoulis would be an all star or anything...he would be a decent rotation player most likely. If spanoulis were on the heat, he would barely have played in the playoffs.

Also spanoulis was terrible in this tournament. He scored well but turned the ball over a lot and doesn't appear to be a competent defender at all (I watched 4 Greece games FYI).


Right...............because Mario freaking Chalmers is better than Spanoulis...........

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[outbreak]

Right...............because Mario freaking Chalmers is better than Spanoulis...........

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/66472e6f5993c09dbb29a0c25fa2d90f/tumblr_mt4fq09QmI1svqu8co1_250.gif

[Le Shaqtus]

Right...............because Mario freaking Chalmers is better than Spanoulis...........

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

At least Chalmers averaged more than 2.7 points a game.

[CavaliersFTW]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s89ZzMF_ZuY/Uj4ksNAxzrI/AAAAAAAAEsA/P9qhRYLPrmM/s0/Euroleaguestatue2.jpg

[outbreak]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s89ZzMF_ZuY/Uj4ksNAxzrI/AAAAAAAAEsA/P9qhRYLPrmM/s0/Euroleaguestatue2.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f1228ec424b86c6bc36dfad236248b7c/tumblr_mskljxsl1g1qz9ddwo1_250.gif

[Inferno]

So Rubio had a much better assist/TO ratio in 10 minutes less, but VSpan is better?

[Nick Young]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/jdbudget/VassilisSpanoulisEurobasketStats_zpsb06e6307.png

:bowdown:

Best PG in the world!
Turnovers win games:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[LakersForlife]

Vspan best turnover guy #Best player. makes turnNobili look an average player

[Iceman#44]

Which is spanoulis' highest scoring average in any kind of level-league tournament he played? Has spanoulis ever scored 20 ppg? What about his career high??

[I<3NBA]

i used to like Euroleague because they play team ball, but Euroleague the poster has really made me hate it.

[tmacattack33]

Every Euroleague players dream is to play in the NBA. That is their end goal.

Until that changes, the NBA is on another level than Euroleague. And Euroleague is basically similar to the canadian football league or any league below the NFL.

Once you realize this, it'll all be much better for all of us.

[artificial]

That isn't fair, the world only got to see 6 games of the almighty V-Span because Greece got their asses kicked too soon, despite being a weak tournament with low level competition due to the abundance of current and former NBA players!!




... I have to remind myself to be objective when watching Spanoulis / Greece. In all fairness he has become a fun player to watch, and it is unfair to judge him based on the insanity of some batshit idiot over internet.

Greece did disappoint, but Eurobasket was fun.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Right...............because Mario freaking Chalmers is better than Spanoulis...........

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Honestly, I don't think he is.

[Nashty]

NBA teams have an overall record of 42-9 against Euroleague teams.

NBA teams have a record of 31-2 when playing the games at home, under NBA rules, and with three NBA refs.

NBA teams have a record of 11-7 when playing the games away, under a combination of mixed NBA and FIBA rules, with two NBA refs and one Euroleague ref.

[Rooster]

You do realize that Peja and Seikaly count as Greek players right?

Lebanese and Serbian.:no:

Next.:banana:

[ralph_i_el]

Why would you try to back up your claims with stats when Vspans stat line ended up being pretty bad. Sure there were 11 NBA starters but there were only 2 stars and both of them clearly played better than Vspan. Plus he's playing against OTHER EUROS which would make his stats pretty pointless if you're using them to say the NBA isn't better. He wasn't playing against NBA teams.

Riddle me this. What current Euroleague player would be a top 10 nba player next year?