Wilt at age 50:

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyN1LZNXfw

still ridiculously powerful and athletic - still recruited by NBA teams! As Alex Hannum put it, Wilt has got to be one of the GOAT athletic specimens in the HISTORY OF MANKIND :bowdown:

[CavaliersFTW]

When Wilt was 50 years old, Billy Cunningham (former teammate of Wilt's and coach of the 76ers from '77-'85 said Wilt would be a top 5 center in the league - at that time, at that age. Where do you guys think Wilt would rank as a 50 year old center in today's weaker center position league? I'd say top 2 at the very least. If Dwight was healthy, Dwight could be better all around on his young legs (but he'd be routinely outmuscled and hoodwinked by Wilt h2h). Pretty much any center would be abused and manhandled by that 300+lb 50 year old Wilt physically, h2h in the modern league. I don't think he'd lead the league in points or minutes at that age, but he'd lead the league in rebounds, blocked shots, and field goal percentage - nobody would be able to deny him position. In today's league. At 50 years old. Only thing holding him back would be injury risk, and ranged shooting touch which I'm assuming he wouldn't have dialed in at that age like he did in his prime.

[OldSkoolball#52]

6 stars.

OP is Yahweh.

[CavaliersFTW]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fZ__5fxNHkI/UgXPjtb557I/AAAAAAAAEh0/AEeWfFmbSD4/s800/July%252025%25201986%2520Wilt%2520recruited%2520by %2520NJ%2520Nets.jpg

[TheCorporation]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/7TKO/in-west-philadelphia-born-and-raised/image.png

[PHILA]

He should've returned in '91 with his "Easy Spirit" dress shoes. :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KR8zwWxWtQ&t=4m33s



Jet Magazine - Feb 25, 1991

http://i.imgur.com/0dtBf.png

[CavaliersFTW]

He should've returned in '91 with his "Easy Spirit" dress shoes. :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KR8zwWxWtQ&t=4m33s



Jet Magazine - Feb 25, 1991

http://i.imgur.com/0dtBf.png
FIFTY FOUR he was getting offers!? :wtf:

[avonbarksdale]

i hate u and every post u make mods please ban him

[CavaliersFTW]

i hate u and every post u make mods please ban him :cry:
stfu crybaby

[Sharmer]

stfu crybaby

:lol

[DuMa]

teams only wanted him to bring in fans and media attention. not for basketball reasons

[sc19]

Maybe cuz the era was so pathetic, that a grandpa was considered an "elite" player there.

[ProfessorMurder]

Maybe cuz the era was so pathetic, that a grandpa was considered an "elite" player there.

If you put Wilt on the court with Bargnani tomorrow, Wilt would still out-rebound him.

[FKAri]

How is he a "specimen"? Please explain.

[CavaliersFTW]

How is he a "specimen"? Please explain.
Is he just a typical example of an athlete to you?

[aj1987]

teams only wanted him to bring in fans and media attention. not for basketball reasons
This.

It's as ridiculous as people thinking that Jordan could average 15 PPG a couple of months ago.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Yet he got out-dueled 11-2 by his biggest rival in championships. That is absolutely pathetic.

[jzek]

No disrespect to Wilt but he'd just be another Dikembe Mutombo if he played against prime Shaq. He'd be bruised every game and maybe injured too.

[FiveRings]

When Wilt was 50 years old, Billy Cunningham (former teammate of Wilt's and coach of the 76ers from '77-'85 said Wilt would be a top 5 center in the league - at that time, at that age. Where do you guys think Wilt would rank as a 50 year old center in today's weaker center position league? I'd say top 2 at the very least. If Dwight was healthy, Dwight could be better all around on his young legs (but he'd be routinely outmuscled and hoodwinked by Wilt h2h). Pretty much any center would be abused and manhandled by that 300+lb 50 year old Wilt physically, h2h in the modern league. I don't think he'd lead the league in points or minutes at that age, but he'd lead the league in rebounds, blocked shots, and field goal percentage - nobody would be able to deny him position. In today's league. At 50 years old. Only thing holding him back would be injury risk, and ranged shooting touch which I'm assuming he wouldn't have dialed in at that age like he did in his prime.
:coleman:

50 year old Wilt would score like 6 points against guys like Marc Gasol, Noah, and Hibbert. Do you realize you're talking about a 50 year old here?

[SilkkTheShocker]

OP also believes in Bigfoot

[Nash]

Damn, he's 50 and looks like he has the body of prime Dwight Howard :eek:

[julizaver]

When Wilt was 50 years old, Billy Cunningham (former teammate of Wilt's and coach of the 76ers from '77-'85 said Wilt would be a top 5 center in the league - at that time, at that age. Where do you guys think Wilt would rank as a 50 year old center in today's weaker center position league? I'd say top 2 at the very least. If Dwight was healthy, Dwight could be better all around on his young legs (but he'd be routinely outmuscled and hoodwinked by Wilt h2h). Pretty much any center would be abused and manhandled by that 300+lb 50 year old Wilt physically, h2h in the modern league. I don't think he'd lead the league in points or minutes at that age, but he'd lead the league in rebounds, blocked shots, and field goal percentage - nobody would be able to deny him position. In today's league. At 50 years old. Only thing holding him back would be injury risk, and ranged shooting touch which I'm assuming he wouldn't have dialed in at that age like he did in his prime.

Realistically at 50 years of age Wilt could provide a modern team with at least 10-15 solid minutes. For sure he could do some defense and grabbed some rebounds. But to think that he could be a starting center playing more than 30 minutes per game any given night is little bit too far for me. But definitely he could play even at 50 against centers of today. At 50 he looks fit and for sure he was more athletic than 30+years Arvydas Sabonis for example (I am fan of both players by the way). I remember reading an excerpt from Above the rim book and there he mentioned about playing ball summer time during the 80s against players like Mark Eaton claiming that he was better than them.

[jongib369]

:coleman:

50 year old Wilt would score like 6 points against guys like Marc Gasol, Noah, and Hibbert. Do you realize you're talking about a 50 year old here?
who would you rather have on your team?


37 year old Shaq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXqiMlFumjk

Or 50 year old in better shape Wilt?

[FiveRings]

who would you rather have on your team?


37 year old Shaq https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXqiMlFumjk

Or 50 year old in better shape Wilt?
Shaq. A 7 foot tall 50 year old couldn't play more than 10-15 minutes a game, would probably get injured early in the season, and guys like Varejao would own him offensively and defensively. Even the GOAT MJ couldn't do shit at 50 years old. No 50 year old is going to be effective in the NBA.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Imo Wilt could be a decent asset at center, in his 40s, especially in today's league. Man was obviously an athletic freak, he was in some of the best shapes you can get at that age, he was 7'1 w/o shoes, over 300 pounds, skill was there. He could get in the court for like 20 mpg max, play some D, protect the paint, get some boards, bruise and muscle people, throw some outlets, pass from the post, even take some sure enough shots and score a bit on great fg%.

[avonbarksdale]

wow wilt is a good athelete and good at basketball???

damn maybe ill go make a thread about it

or maybe how big his wingspan is compared to dwight

since thats so relevent

[secund2nun]

The guy beat up a league full of unathletic white scrubs yet still only won 2 titles. Next.

Shaq would single handedly win a title every season back then.

[jongib369]

The guy beat up a league full of unathletic white scrubs yet still only won 2 titles. Next.

Shaq would single handedly win a title every season back then.
http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/nate-thurmond-2.jpg

[ProfessorMurder]

The guy beat up a league full of unathletic white scrubs yet still only won 2 titles. Next.

Shaq would single handedly win a title every season back then.

Shaq wouldn't be able to bulldoze people and dunk.

[MavsSuperFan]

Prime Shaq >>

[LAZERUSS]

How about this article written in 1986, and about a Chamberlain at age 50...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1065131/


And how strong was he exactly? How fast? How high could he jump? How long? Who knows? By now, the myths of what Chamberlain did at his leisure (or might have done, if he hadn't been concentrating on basketball) compete in memory all too much with whatever did happen. Wilt is not averse to embellishing his own legend here and there, either. At the moment, Lynda Huey, an old friend, a travel agent by trade, a track nut by passion, is trying to get Wilt to enter the World Veterans Championships in track and field (50-year-old division) next year in Melbourne. "Wilt will rewrite all the record books," Huey says blithely.

And what event would you enter, Wilt? The discus, the 200, the high jump? "Almost anything," he shrugs. These days, for typical daily amusement he competes (against others or himself) in the following activities: basketball, racquetball, volleyball, tennis, polo (yes, the kind with horses), rowing single sculls, swimming, running races, lifting weights, hurling objects, performing the martial arts, aerobics and walking long distances. He still holds his own in scrimmages with current NBA players. The Nets' offer, while obviously of considerable publicity value to a team somewhere out in the suburbs that nobody knows exists, was perfectly legitimate. Wilt finally turned it down only because he was afraid he would disappoint people, afraid that even though he was sure he would acquit himself proudly, playing in the NBA in his 50th year, nothing he could do would be enough to satisfy expectations.



Of course we don't know how a Wilt, at age 50 would have performed. But let's take a look at Wilt in his LAST season, 72-73, and at age 36.

In the regular season, Chamberlain played all 82 games, and not only that, he averaged 43.2 mpg. He averaged 13.2 ppg, and 4.5 apg. Included were his six regular season h2h's against 6-11 HOFer Bob Lanier, in which Chamberlain averaged 19.8 ppg, on get this... an .836 FG%!. And while a prime KAJ outscored Wilt in their six regular season h2h's by a 29.0 to 11.2 ppg margin, it is worth noting that Kareem only shot 50% in ONE of them, and overall, Chamberlain outshot Kareem by a stagering .737 to .450 margin. Incidently, Wilt even outscored Kareem in one game, 24-21, while outshooting him by a 10-14 to 10-27 margin.

TheRegul8r's impeccable research found that Chamberlain averaged 5.42 bpg in those 82 games. Think about that... Wilt, at age 36, averaged nearly as many blocks as a prime Eaton did in his "record-setting" 84-85 season (5.56.) Clearly, a prime Chamberlain would easily hold the all-time single-season record, and in fact, he probably would hold the top-5, or so, all-time single season records in that category, had that record been "officially" recorded.

And how about this? In the regular season, Chamberlain led the league in rebounding, and by a good margin, at 18.6 rpg. BTW, Nate Thurmond came in second, at 17.1 rpg. More on that in a moment.

Wilt also shot an all-time record, .727 from the field that season. No one has approached that mark since.

And, for the record, Chamberlain finished 4th in the MVP voting.

Now, in the post-season, and in 17 games, Chamberlain averaged...get this... 47.1 mpg, which BTW, was DOWN from his career mark of 47.2 mpg.

In those 17 games, we have Wilt's block totals from 10 of them... 73, which included games of 11 and 12. So, in the known ten games, he averaged 7.3 bpg, which was down slightly from his post-season average the year before, of 7.4 bpg. Even if we were to not credit him with any blocks in his seven other playoff games, he would still have averaged 4.3 bpg in his last post-season.

The pundits will, of course, claim that he declined in the post-season. True, he only averaged 10.4 ppg, and on a .552 FG%, BUT, he did average 22.5 rpg in those 17 games. And that 22.5 rpg would be the last time any NBA player would ever average more than 17.3 rpg in the post-season (KAJ's 17.3 rpg in his 11 post-season games in the 76-77 playoffs.) Furthermore, Wilt slaughtered 7-0 Tom Boerwinkle, who was one of the all-time greatest TRB% players in post-season NBA history, in the first round of the playoffs (Wilt outrebounded him 172-9...and held Boerwinkle to a 13.5 TRB% in that series. Then, against Thurmond in the WCF's, Chamberlain outrebounded Nate, 23.6 rpg to 17.2 rpg. Keep in mind that Thurmond had finished second to Wilt in rebounding in the regular season. Finally, Wilt outrebounded HOFer Reed in the Finals by an 18.6 rpg to 9.2 rpg margin. Oh, and in Wilt's very LAST game, in that Finals, he scored 23 points, on 9-16 shooting, with 21 rebounds.


Now, let's look at the careers of some of the other "greats" at age 36, shall we?

Jordan? Been retired for two years. he would return at age 38, and while still a good player, was nowhere near the dominate player a 34 year old MJ had been.

Kareem? Of all of the "great" centers, Kareem was clearly the only real player, at age 36, that was anywhere near as great as Chamberlain had been at age 36. KAJ averaged 32.8 mpg, 21.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.8 bpg, and shot .578 from the field. And in his 21 post-season games, he averaged 23.9 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.1 bpg, and shot .555. BTW, in his seven game Finals against Boston, he shot .481 from the field.

Bird? Retired. And he was just a shell the year before, at age 35.

Magic? 32 games, 29.9 mpg, 14.6 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 6.9 apg, and shot .466 from the field. In his four post-season games, he averaged 15.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 8.5 apg, and shot .385 from the field. Of course, he had been out of the league for several years, and was nowhere near the player a peak Magic had been.

Duncan? 30.1 mpg, 17.8 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 2.7 bpg, and a .502 FG%. In his 21 playoff games, he averaged 35.0 mpg, 18.1 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.6 bpg, and shot .470 from the field.

Shaq? 30 mpg, 17.8 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.4 bpg, and a .609 FG%. His team did not make the playoffs. BTW, the year before, at age 35, in his five playoff games, he averaged 15.2 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 2.6 bpg, and shot .440 from the field. Chamberlain at age 35, averaged 14.7 ppg, 21.0 rpg, 7.4 bpg, and shot .563 from the field...and easily won the FMVP.

Ewing? 34.2 mpg, 17.3 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 2.6 bpg, and shot .435 from the floor. In his 11 playoff games he played 31.5 mpg, and averaged 13.1 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.7 bpg, and shot .430 from the field.

Robinson? 29.5 mpg, 12.2 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.8 bpg, and a .507 FG%. In his for post-season games, he averaged 20.3 mpg, 4.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.8 bpg, and shot .474 from the floor.

Moses? 30.6 mpg, 15.6 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 bpg, and a .474 FG%. His 31-51 team did not make the post-season.

Russell? Retired at age 34.

West? Retired at age 35, and was just a shell in that season.

Baylor? Played 2 regular season games and was completely worthless in those. And he missed the entire post-season.

Oscar? Retired at 35.

Hakeem? 35.7 mpg, 18.9 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 2.5 bpg, and a .514 FG%. How about his post-season play? Well, as usual, a first round blowout loss. And with these stats... 30.8 mpg, 13.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.8 bpg, and a .426 FG%


You can find some players like, Karl malone, who were still playing well at age 36, ... 35.9 mpg, 25.5 ppg, 9.5 rpg, amd a .509 FG% (as well as a 27.2 ppg, 8.9 rpg, .520 post-season), but they are very rare.

In any case, a 36 year old Wilt was still an ELITE player. And given the fact that he kept himself in great shape for many years after that, he probably would have still be a force into his 40's.

[jongib369]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/d41d7c6bb61f9e68331a97d5e8fc4326/tumblr_mr0z1uKPTU1r6ombko1_500.jpg

[ProfessorMurder]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/d41d7c6bb61f9e68331a97d5e8fc4326/tumblr_mr0z1uKPTU1r6ombko1_500.jpg

Looks younger than Kareem.

[jongib369]

http://i.imgur.com/KusZeIr.jpg

[AirFederer]

http://i.imgur.com/KusZeIr.jpg
Center and pf of opposition?:D

[SilkkTheShocker]

OP questions LeBron in the clutch.

But is a huge Wilt stan :oldlol:

f.aggot

[MavsSuperFan]

Prime Shaq >>>>>>> any version of wilt

[MavsSuperFan]

http://i.imgur.com/KusZeIr.jpg
This was basically who wilt played against.:lol

[aj1987]

This was basically who wilt played against.:lol
http://www.warriorsworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Kareem-Wilt.jpg
http://foglobe.com/data_images/main/wilt-chamberlain/wilt-chamberlain-09.jpg
http://afrsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/8.jpg

[Psileas]

This was basically who wilt played against.:lol

Still better than pretty much any center in Mavs' history.

[TheReal Kendall]

I wish he was alive today.

I would love to hear what he would have to say about this era of bball.

Edit: Why people hate on Wilt so much?

[CavaliersFTW]

I wish he was alive today.

I would love to hear what he would have to say about this era of bball.

Edit: Why people hate on Wilt so much?
Because he's too good to be true

[Greg Oden 50]

The guy beat up a league full of unathletic white scrubs yet still only won 2 titles. Next.

Shaq would single handedly win a title every season back then.

WAY BETTER JAMES PLAY IN A ERA WITH ZERO DECENT BIG MAN :roll:

[Greg Oden 50]

Prime Shaq >>

100 PTS >>>> 61 PTS :lol

[Greg Oden 50]

Prime Shaq >>>>>>> any version of wilt
100 PTS >>>>>>>> 61 PTS :banana:

[MavsSuperFan]

100 PTS >>>>>>>> 61 PTS :banana:
You really think Wilt could have avg 50ppg in the 90s-00s?

Come on guys the quality of the NBA has improved over time.
Saying the 60s NBA = 90s or 00s is as ridiculous as saying euroleague = NBA.

Its as ridiculous as saying an enterprise aircraft carrier = a nimitz, an F-15 = an F-22

[Greg Oden 50]

You really think Wilt could have avg 50ppg in the 90s-00s?

Come on guys the quality of the NBA has improved over time.
Saying the 60s NBA = 90s or 00s is as ridiculous as saying euroleague = NBA.

Its as ridiculous as saying an enterprise aircraft carrier = a nimitz, an F-15 = an F-22

35PPG,18REBS,6ASTS,4BLKS,60FG% :banana:

[SHAQisGOAT]

Shaq's my favorite player but I just go to :facepalm at some of these past comments.

[Dro]

You really think Wilt could have avg 50ppg in the 90s-00s?

Come on guys the quality of the NBA has improved over time.
Saying the 60s NBA = 90s or 00s is as ridiculous as saying euroleague = NBA.

Its as ridiculous as saying an enterprise aircraft carrier = a nimitz, an F-15 = an F-22
No, whats ridiculous is you acting like you actually know what you're talking about when its obvious you're too young to know shit about Wilt or anybody who played before 1990. These guys constantly give you guys facts to disprove these stupid as claims you youngins make(WITH NO PROOF) and you guys either overlook them or choose to ignore them to keep posting the stupid ass shit you guys post. If you think there was nothing but unathletic white guys playing back then, then you should stop posting.

[MavsSuperFan]

No, whats ridiculous is you acting like you actually know what you're talking about when its obvious you're too young to know shit about Wilt or anybody who played before 1990. These guys constantly give you guys facts to disprove these stupid as claims you youngins make(WITH NO PROOF) and you guys either overlook them or choose to ignore them to keep posting the stupid ass shit you guys post. If you think there was nothing but unathletic white guys playing back then, then you should stop posting.
Back then didnt a lot of NBA players need to find a second job in the off season to make ends meet? All I am saying is the sport of basketball wasnt as desirable a profession as it is today. The talent pool that wanted to join it wasnt as impressive as later on when there was great financial incentives to join.

I dont think boxing or baseball today is what it used to be, mainly due to its fall from prominence. While basketball and football have increased in prominence.

yeah obviously Wilt has some amazing stats. That totally misses my point that you need to discount his stats somewhat when comparing him to a guy like shaq. I have never said the NBA in the 60s were all unathletic white guys, but I am saying a guy like Cousey couldnt make the NBA today and was a star back then. Thats just based on youtube clips of him.

Jordan and Shaq played in a better league than Wilt did. Its the same reason we don't put a undefeated division 3 team in the national title game. You adjust for their level of competition.

[CavaliersFTW]

Back then didnt a lot of NBA players need to find a second job in the off season to make ends meet? All I am saying is the sport of basketball wasnt as desirable a profession as it is today. The talent pool that wanted to join it wasnt as impressive as later on when there was great financial incentives to join.

I dont think boxing or baseball today is what it used to be, mainly due to its fall from prominence. While basketball and football have increased in prominence.

yeah obviously Wilt has some amazing stats. That totally misses my point that you need to discount his stats somewhat when comparing him to a guy like shaq. I have never said the NBA in the 60s were all unathletic white guys, but I am saying a guy like Cousey couldnt make the NBA today and was a star back then. Thats just based on youtube clips of him.

Jordan and Shaq played in a better league than Wilt did. Its the same reason we don't put a undefeated division 3 team in the national title game. You adjust for their level of competition.
:oldlol: I literally laughed out loud at this. Your argument is that MONEY makes the competitiveness better today? :roll:

To whom? Greedy, othwerwise unmotivatable athletes with nothing to offer really but raw talent or athleticism? 'Back then' the COMPETITIVENESS is what made it desirable you loon.

[MavsSuperFan]

:oldlol: I literally laughed out loud at this. Your argument is that MONEY makes the competitiveness better today? :roll:

To whom? Greedy, othwerwise unmotivatable athletes with nothing to offer really but raw talent or athleticism? 'Back then' the COMPETITIVENESS is what made it desirable you loon. Early in Wilt's era, you could go to college for cheap (or on a scholarship) get your education and become a doctor, business man or lawer and probably make more money doing any of those things than being an NBA player. Also you couldn't even try to be in the NBA until after a FULL 4 years worth of college anyways.

Let's take Bob Pettit for example, he actually earned a degree in business and AFTER the NBA became a very successful business man. Had he not been supremely passionate about the game and incredibly competitive he would have skipped pro basketball all together. But he didn't. Because pro basketball back then WASN'T undesirable, it was played by only the best talent in the world that was competive natured and passionate about the sport. You didn't have any unmotivated uneducated bone heads like J.R. Smith playing in that league.

Yet your somehow thinking that that made the league back then worse? O-M-G a league filled with college educated players who delayed jumping into business careers to play a sport they loved how terrible :oldlol:

Yes financial incentives are incredibly powerful motivators and attract talent. There were probably talented people that decided to not pursue basketball back then because of possibly better financial rewards in other fields.


To whom? Greedy, othwerwise unmotivatable athletes with nothing to offer really but raw talent or athleticism? 'Back then' the COMPETITIVENESS is what made it desirable you loon. Early in Wilt's era, you could go to college for cheap (or on a scholarship) get your education and become a doctor, business man or lawer and probably make more money doing any of those things than being an NBA player. Also you couldn't even try to be in the NBA until after a FULL 4 years worth of college anyways.
Thats almost exactly the point I was trying to make. The lack of financial rewards drained the league of potential talent. I'm not sure why you consider that a crazy argument.


Let's take Bob Pettit for example, he actually earned a degree in business and AFTER the NBA became a very successful business man. Had he not been supremely passionate about the game and incredibly competitive he would have skipped pro basketball all together. But he didn't. Because pro basketball back then WASN'T undesirable,

This again is almost my point. You dont see Lebron or Kobe working hard to get a university education. Most athletes today even cheat (in that profs give them a break and classmates help them a lot) in universities from what I have heard. And Even guys like peyton manning get joke degrees in "communications". Modern athletes need to invest 100% of their work time getting better at their sports. In the 60s they couldnt do that even if they wanted too. Overall a less talented league.

Also when did I question the passion of players of the 60s?


Yet your somehow thinking that that made the league back then worse? O-M-G a league filled with college educated players who delayed jumping into business careers to play a sport they loved how terrible :oldlol:
In terms of talent as basketball players, yes, Once again Im not questioning their passion.

Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, etc were the great classical composers of their era. Why does europe no longer produce great composers? I think a huge reason is the lack of financial reward for it nowadays. This removes the incentive to develop talent in this field.

[MavsSuperFan]

:oldlol: I literally laughed out loud at this. Your argument is that MONEY makes the competitiveness better today? :roll:

To whom? Greedy, othwerwise unmotivatable athletes with nothing to offer really but raw talent or athleticism? 'Back then' the COMPETITIVENESS is what made it desirable you loon.
I clearly said the great financial rewards of the modern NBA helps attract a better talent pool. Am I the only that thinks money helps attract talent?

[rhowen4]

I clearly said the great financial rewards of the modern NBA helps attract a better talent pool. Am I the only that thinks money helps attract talent?
no, i'm in complete agreement with your entire post there. the talent pool is so much larger nowadays, and it's due to basketball's popularity worldwide as well. along with an evolving game, it makes intuitive sense that the nba player on average would be better today.

[MavsSuperFan]

no, i'm in complete agreement with your entire post there. the talent pool is so much larger nowadays, and it's due to basketball's popularity worldwide as well. along with an evolving game, it makes intuitive sense that the nba player on average would be better today.
Thank you. everybody here has been acting like I belong in an asylum for saying that the NBA today has a higher level of players than in the 1960s. And you should factor that in when comparing Shaq to wilt.