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tgan3
10-06-2013, 11:19 PM
In a 1 on 1 game, 3 points are worth 2. 2 points 1.

Curry is a career 0.45% 3 pt shooter. Therefore, his opponent has to score 90%fg or better from inside the 3 point line to equal his scoring output (Which is next to impossible).

DuMa
10-06-2013, 11:20 PM
did this guy really use stats to end his own argument?

andgar923
10-06-2013, 11:22 PM
In a 1 on 1 game, 3 points are worth 2. 2 points 1.

Curry is a career 0.45% 3 pt shooter. Therefore, his opponent has to score 90%fg or better from inside the 3 point line to equal his scoring output (Which is next to impossible).

A. can HE play defense?
B. He aint getting the same looks

Different game altogether.

If being a great 3pt shooter was where it's at, then Steve Kerr would be unbeatable.

HomieWeMajor
10-06-2013, 11:22 PM
True
I remember all those times Steve Kerr beat MJ in 1 on 1 in the Bulls practice
MJ punched him in the face for it IIRC

Djsonny
10-06-2013, 11:29 PM
is this a joke? Have you ever played 1on1 ball before? Hes amazing on 3s. So on 1on1, you think whoever is playing him would give him open 3s? So basically, you're saying Stef beat anybody due to his 3s?

tgan3
10-06-2013, 11:32 PM
is this a joke? Have you ever played 1on1 ball before? Hes amazing on 3s. So on 1on1, you think whoever is playing him would give him open 3s? So basically, you're saying Stef beat anybody due to his 3s?

Curry also has excellent ballhandling skills. If the guy were to guard too near, he'll blow by. If the guy sags him off, he shoots the 3.

His defense isn't that good. But his 3 point proficiency makes up for the points scored on him.

KG215
10-06-2013, 11:33 PM
So, let's say he's playing one-on-one against someone like the 6'8" 260 pound LeBron, he's gonna get the same looks that generated the 45% 3P shooting? What's 6'3" Curry and his frail frame gonna do on offense when LeBron just puts his head down and goes barreling down the lane? How the hell is he gonna stop that?

What about playing 6'10" Durant and his 7'4" wingspan who, you know, can shoot and stroke it from anywhere on the court...kinda like Curry but 7-8 inches taller. How the hell is he gonna not only consistently stop that, but how's he gonna consistently get clean looks off over him?

red1
10-06-2013, 11:39 PM
kobe, lebron and kd would destroy curry 1 on 1

talkingconch
10-06-2013, 11:43 PM
Ok. Hows he getting a shot up with Lebron on him?

andgar923
10-06-2013, 11:45 PM
So, let's say he's playing one-on-one against someone like the 6'8" 260 pound LeBron, he's gonna get the same looks that generated the 45% 3P shooting? What's 6'3" Curry and his frail frame gonna do on offense when LeBron just puts his head down and goes barreling down the lane? How the hell is he gonna stop that?

What about playing 6'10" Durant and his 7'4" wingspan who, you know, can shoot and stroke it from anywhere on the court...kinda like Curry but 7-8 inches taller. How the hell is he gonna not only consistently stop that, but how's he gonna consistently get clean looks off over him?

The biggest aspect that's overlooked is the difference in physical play. One on one games are more physical. So Bron can handcheck the f*ck outta Curry to keep him off balance and tire him out. Curry won't be able to easily blow by Bron with handchecking allowed. And Curry will start to turn his back and not use his crossovers as much. He'll end up looking like an old school player because of this.

One on one games tend to become 'back to the basket' games very quickly due to its more physical aspect.

Budadiiii
10-06-2013, 11:46 PM
Curry also has excellent ballhandling skills. If the guy were to guard too near, he'll blow by. If the guy sags him off, he shoots the 3.

His defense isn't that good. But his 3 point proficiency makes up for the points scored on him.
Even if that is the case, which its not, Curry wouldn't be able to stop Durant, Kobe, or Lebron and probably thousands of other hoopers even once.

Moronic thread. You've never actually played basketball competitively have you? A silly concept like this only would come from someone with limited experience on the subject

DonDadda59
10-07-2013, 12:16 AM
Orlando Shaq would be the best 1 on 1 player ever. I would say prime LA Shaq, but the younger Magic version was capable of getting up and down the floor quicker, was more mobile. That would come in handy when guarding the smaller quicker players.

Bigger players, especially the athletic ones, have the advantage over smaller, more 'skilled' players. All Shaq would have to do is man the paint, maybe even get out on the perimeter once in a while, force his man to rely solely on his shooting (when playing guards/forwards). On offense, in the paint... come on.

Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagLsOTNlF8

Doc, one of the absolute best offensive perimeter weapons, couldn't do a damn thing against Kareem, a skilled and athletic big man.

A great big man>a great little man.

alexd
10-07-2013, 03:28 AM
Orlando Shaq would be the best 1 on 1 player ever. I would say prime LA Shaq, but the younger Magic version was capable of getting up and down the floor quicker, was more mobile. That would come in handy when guarding the smaller quicker players.

Bigger players, especially the athletic ones, have the advantage over smaller, more 'skilled' players. All Shaq would have to do is man the paint, maybe even get out on the perimeter once in a while, force his man to rely solely on his shooting (when playing guards/forwards). On offense, in the paint... come on.

Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagLsOTNlF8

Doc, one of the absolute best offensive perimeter weapons, couldn't do a damn thing against Kareem, a skilled and athletic big man.

A great big man>a great little man.
its a combination of things.What i mean by that, in the video you provided if Kareem was against a guy that could match him when backing down(not completely but he wouldn t get dominated either)a guy like melo would you think that kareem would still win?Doc was an ugly shooter and in this video kinda slow.Put a melo type player and he would win
To me the best 1vs1 player would be a sf/pf that can play iso and be strong enough to not let the other guy score whenever he backs down at the post or start running so he can have an open shot.That s why i think melo would be the best 1v1 player in the league right now.Lebron is up there as well.what he lacks in fundamentals and post moves he gains in power,muscle.height and weight.Durant is very good too and a nightmare to defend but he s very skinny and he would be murdered when try to defend some1 stronger.Kobe is good too but he is shorter and not that strong

iamgine
10-07-2013, 03:48 AM
In a 1 on 1 game, 3 points are worth 2. 2 points 1.

Curry is a career 0.45% 3 pt shooter. Therefore, his opponent has to score 90%fg or better from inside the 3 point line to equal his scoring output (Which is next to impossible).
90% isn't hard. We don't need prime Shaq here. Even David West should get 100 FG% against Curry. Also, most 1 on 1 is scorer's ball. Once Curry miss, it's over.

secund2nun
10-07-2013, 03:49 AM
Centers would be the best 1 on 1 players not PGs and SGs. 3 point shooting is not how you win 1 on 1s....using size to get easy paint baskets is how you win.

How the hell is anyone gonna guard Shaq outside of another top center? and even they can't really guard Shaq.

Shaq's fg% against Curry would be near 100%. Plus Shaq would rebound any misses he has (which would be practically none because he can't miss a shot when he will just post up and dunk on Curry every time) and he would rebound every Curry missed shot.

Harison
10-07-2013, 04:04 AM
Curry wouldnt be able to get shot off against any quick tall defender, Hakeem, KG, Lebron, MJ, etc. So you can forget 45%.

On the other side, anyone from above with decent ball handling and good finishing will get near 100% 2PT against Curry.

Unbiased_one
10-07-2013, 05:13 AM
In a 1 on 1 game, 3 points are worth 2. 2 points 1.

Curry is a career 0.45% 3 pt shooter. Therefore, his opponent has to score 90%fg or better from inside the 3 point line to equal his scoring output (Which is next to impossible).

Shaq would score every time on curry

Chrono90
10-07-2013, 08:49 AM
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pauk
10-07-2013, 09:42 AM
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Mass Debator
10-07-2013, 10:42 AM
Orlando Shaq would be the best 1 on 1 player ever. I would say prime LA Shaq, but the younger Magic version was capable of getting up and down the floor quicker, was more mobile. That would come in handy when guarding the smaller quicker players.

Bigger players, especially the athletic ones, have the advantage over smaller, more 'skilled' players. All Shaq would have to do is man the paint, maybe even get out on the perimeter once in a while, force his man to rely solely on his shooting (when playing guards/forwards). On offense, in the paint... come on.

Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagLsOTNlF8

Doc, one of the absolute best offensive perimeter weapons, couldn't do a damn thing against Kareem, a skilled and athletic big man.

A great big man>a great little man.
This post speaks truth.

I honestly would love to see a prime Kareem vs a prime Yao.

Nero Tulip
10-07-2013, 06:26 PM
It's not just about percentage. In 1V1 you keep the ball when you score.

Shaq would score 100% of the time against Curry, therefore whenever he gets the ball he'd automatically win.

DonDadda59
10-08-2013, 12:52 AM
its a combination of things.What i mean by that, in the video you provided if Kareem was against a guy that could match him when backing down(not completely but he wouldn t get dominated either)a guy like melo would you think that kareem would still win?Doc was an ugly shooter and in this video kinda slow.Put a melo type player and he would win
To me the best 1vs1 player would be a sf/pf that can play iso and be strong enough to not let the other guy score whenever he backs down at the post or start running so he can have an open shot.That s why i think melo would be the best 1v1 player in the league right now.Lebron is up there as well.what he lacks in fundamentals and post moves he gains in power,muscle.height and weight.Durant is very good too and a nightmare to defend but he s very skinny and he would be murdered when try to defend some1 stronger.Kobe is good too but he is shorter and not that strong

There is literally nothing Carmelo, a piss poor defender to begin with, could do to stop a prime Kareem from scoring. Absolutely nothing.

And Kareem being 7'2" with a monster wingspan, quick reflexes, excellent shot blocking fundamentals would make life miserable for Melo on the offensive end. Frankly I don't think that contest would be all that close.

And young-prime Shaq outright dominates anyone in NBA History in a 1 on 1. Check him out playing the greatest perimeter player on both ends of the court in the History of the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwgNLW9ASQ

That's a half assed effort too. No one would be able to stop him and it'd be hell trying to score on him inside the 3 point line if he went all out.

PHILA
10-08-2013, 01:49 AM
In a 1 on 1 game, 3 points are worth 2. 2 points 1.

Curry is a career 0.45% 3 pt shooter. Therefore, his opponent has to score 90%fg or better from inside the 3 point line to equal his scoring output (Which is next to impossible).
:no:

Wilt Chamberlain can just back him into the paint and dunk it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O3kE95tBZU

LosBulls
10-08-2013, 05:44 AM
If 1v1 games were official there would be classes set in place.

I'm sure it would be Guards vs Guards (Chris Pauls,Derrick Roses,Monta Ellis,DWade,Steph Curry,Kobes)
Forwards Vs Forwards (LeBrons,Durants,Garnetts,Griffins,Nowitzkis)
Centers (Dwights,Hibberts,Lopez,Noahs)

4 Inches
02-20-2016, 06:47 PM
Few years later who y'all picking ?

72-10
02-20-2016, 07:01 PM
Best one on one player would be Allen Iverson. He might even beat Michael Jordan on some plays.

RRR3
02-20-2016, 07:18 PM
Shaq LeBron and Kobe all would destroy Curry 1-on-1