Preseason GT: Pacers - Rockets

[Uncle Drew]

Preseason game in Manila. Houston with an early 12-0 lead.

http://firstrownow.eu/watch/213312/1/watch-indiana-pacers-vs-houston-rockets.html

[Jameerthefear]

wow really early game

[alenleomessi]

harden will probably be a mvp candidate

[dbugz]

Horrible passing by the Pacers :facepalm

[Le Shaqtus]

Houston looks really good.

[Layup]

Howard looking good so far

[DukeDelonte13]

can anybody post a stream?

[dbugz]

can anybody post a stream?


http://www.feed2all.eu/watch/213312/1/watch-indiana-pacers-vs-houston-rockets.html

[To4]

D-Mo Injured his left wrist on dunk.. hope nothing serious.. Pacers really got a steal in Scola.. he is playing well.

[absalom]

wow really early game

It is 21:30 pm here in Manila.

[CeltsGarlic]

D-Mo Injured his left wrist on dunk.. hope nothing serious.. Pacers really got a steal in Scola.. he is playing well.

Yeah... God damn dmo... It was 3rd time Ive seen him dunk on fast break and fall on his back on the way down.. WTF?

[CanYouDigIt]

Did Asik and Granger start tonight?

How's PatBe doing?

Is PG showing promise?

Is Hibbert finishing around the rim?

Does D12 look like his ORL self?

These questions must be answered. :crazysam:

[CeltsGarlic]

Fking stern doesnt know who Motiejunas is...

[To4]

Did Asik and Granger start tonight?

How's PatBe doing?

Is PG showing promise?

Is Hibbert finishing around the rim?

Does D12 look like his ORL self?

These questions must be answered. :crazysam:

i will try to answer some question here..

1. Asik is not playing again.. Granger played, and played well in my opinion.

2. PatBe is doing good as well. just shot a 3pt just now.:oldlol:

3. what do you mean promise?

4. Hibbert didnt really play much the 1st half because of foul trouble, now in the 2nd half, not much offense as usual, but defense is good against howard.

5. Howard played well in the 1st half, now here in the 2nd half, he is on his 5th foul.. and i noticed howard has a hard time banging down low with hibbert

[CanYouDigIt]

3. what do you mean promise?

3. Is PG showing flashes of how good he was in the ECF?

[absalom]

That kid, Motiejunas is playing well today. Is he the starting 4 of the rockets?

[spiegel]

Casspi another great game. Montjunes finished with 16 as well. Harden outplayed Gorge majority of the game. I really like the idea of bringing lin off the bench

Lin
Garcia
Casspi
Montijunes/Jones
Asik'


That's a very good second unit.

The start this morning shows how well Beverley plays with the starters as he sets the tone on defense and complements Harden well.

[I<3NBA]

the bottom fell of the Pacers as the starters left the floor. damn, their bench is really horrible. even with the addition of Scola, their 2nd unit still sucks.

[dbugz]

Casspi another great game. Montjunes finished with 16 as well. Harden outplayed Gorge majority of the game. I really like the idea of bringing lin off the bench

Lin
Garcia
Casspi
Montijunes/Jones
Asik'


That's a very good second unit.

The start this morning shows how well Beverley plays with the starters as he sets the tone on defense and complements Harden well.


They still also have Brooks and Brewer. Solid bench for the Rockets.

[spiegel]

the bottom fell of the Pacers as the starters left the floor. damn, their bench is really horrible. even with the addition of Scola, their 2nd unit still sucks.
The game was pretty much over after the Rockets cameout with real season intensity and led by 15 in the second and 12-0 to start the game. Beverley and Harden were outstanding in the 1st.

[spiegel]

They still also have Brooks and Brewer. Solid bench for the Rockets.
Brewer will get cut in my opinion.

[CanYouDigIt]

Sounds like HOU is gonna do good this sesaon.

Hopefully PatBe starts and Lin becomes the new 6th Man.

[Lateralus]

Harden :bowdown:
Howard (thanks for ditching LA) :pimp:
Parsons :banana:
and the real PatBE:bowdown:



Making noise this year

[CanYouDigIt]

Beverley/Lin/Brooks
Harden/Brewer
Parsons/Casspi/Garcia
Montiejunas/Jones
Howard/Asik

How do you beat that lineup?!?! :banana:




:djparty :djparty :djparty :djparty

[Rose'sACL]

good luck to you Houston bros. looks like warriors and rockets will be the most entertaining teams to watch this season.

[CanYouDigIt]

Scary thing is, our core is young. We've got potential for titles for years.

[noob cake]

Scary thing is, our core is young. We've got potential for titles for years.

Morey :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[alenleomessi]

rockets might very well have the better lithuanian big

[CanYouDigIt]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ntdbnc.gif

[noob cake]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ntdbnc.gif

Gif needs an upgrade. Delfino for Motie.

[FatComputerNerd]

Casspi with 17 pts on 6/9 shooting, 2/5 from three, with 10 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block. All in 21 minutes.

Why didn't he play like this in Cleveland? :wtf:

[All Net]

Casspi with 17 pts on 6/9 shooting, 2/5 from three, with 10 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block. All in 21 minutes.

Why didn't he play like this in Cleveland? :wtf:

Back to back good games.

[andremiller07]

Casspi with 17 pts on 6/9 shooting, 2/5 from three, with 10 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block. All in 21 minutes.

Why didn't he play like this in Cleveland? :wtf:
Seems like the Kings Casspi is back, he's one of the rare Kings in recent memory that actually played better in Sacramento than elsewhere.

[KungFuJoe]

Just saw that Lin had 8 free throw attempts (made all 8). Hopefully this means he is back to his more aggressive ways.

If playing with the second unit means he gets to play more HIS style, I'm all for it.

[millwad]

Just saw that Lin had 8 free throw attempts (made all 8). Hopefully this means he is back to his more aggressive ways.

If playing with the second unit means he gets to play more HIS style, I'm all for it.

Totally agree!

Lin is not really starting material to start with, not for the Rockets, not for any team. Lin is not a bad player but he has a hype stalking him after Linsanity and it hasn't been good for him.

He's not good enough to be a franchise player nor a 2nd or 3rd option on offense, he is good for playing great basketball and being a leader for the 2nd unit and I hope McHale will start Beverley from now on. Beverley is a better defender and a better fit for Dwight and especially Harden.

GO ROCKETS!

[shoops]

D-Mo needs to learn how to fall better, or stop falling so much, a lot of his falls are cringe-worthy.


Beverley is a ... better fit for Dwight.

How is Beverley a better fit for Dwight though? If anything, Lin gets Howard easier buckets threading the needle. Unless the coaching staff can stagger minutes so that Lin plays with Howard, that's a missed opportunity imo.

[I<3NBA]

Totally agree!

Lin is not really starting material to start with, not for the Rockets, not for any team. Lin is not a bad player but he has a hype stalking him after Linsanity and it hasn't been good for him.

He's not good enough to be a franchise player nor a 2nd or 3rd option on offense, he is good for playing great basketball and being a leader for the 2nd unit and I hope McHale will start Beverley from now on. Beverley is a better defender and a better fit for Dwight and especially Harden.

GO ROCKETS!
Lin is actually starter material. he was pretty good as a starter before Harden got there. him and Harden just clash as they were both drivers. Lin also worked better with Asik. so it really fits him to play as 6th man.

[millwad]

D-Mo needs to learn how to fall better, or stop falling so much, a lot of his falls are cringe-worthy.


How is Beverley a better fit for Dwight though? If anything, Lin gets Howard easier buckets threading the needle. Unless the coaching staff can stagger minutes so that Lin plays with Howard, that's a missed opportunity imo.

Beverley doesn't shoot as much as Lin, he doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective and last but not least, he does what a starting PG with the current Rockets have to do, he plays great defense.

Lin, Harden and Howard won't work, not even Lin and Harden worked out. Parsons and Harden are good enough passer to make up for Lin's passing in the starting line up.

[millwad]

Lin is actually starter material. he was pretty good as a starter before Harden got there. him and Harden just clash as they were both drivers. Lin also worked better with Asik. so it really fits him to play as 6th man.

I don't see it, he was one of the worst starting PG's last season. And no, I don't claim that Bev is better than Lin, I only think he's a much better fit for the starting line up.

Harden and Lin started to ball for the Rockets at the same time, my friend, and there are stats that proves that Harden is better without Lin on the court. And Harden is definitely the priority over Lin and so is Howard.

Lin is a nice baller but the passing is something Harden and Parsons can't make up for and Bev's defense is what is needed.

[shoops]

Beverley doesn't shoot as much as Lin, he doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective and last but not least, he does what a starting PG with the current Rockets have to do, he plays great defense.

Lin, Harden and Howard won't work, not even Lin and Harden worked out. Parsons and Harden are good enough passer to make up for Lin's passing in the starting line up.
There's still some big unknowns though. Beverley's defense is sometimes over-aggressive and leads to early team foul trouble, so if he starts, some of his defensive effectiveness that he had as a spark off the bench might drop. Also, I think that having Howard's paint presence actually reduces the need for a defensive specialist at the point. I don't think the 1 is much of a problem either way with whoever starting, the Rockets mostly need to figure the 4. And Howard might need easier touches if he gets frustrated posting up, but anyways, I just hope the coaching staff can optimize for talent.

[millwad]

There's still some big unknowns though. Beverley's defense is sometimes over-aggressive and leads to early team foul trouble, so if he starts, some of his defensive effectiveness that he had as a spark off the bench might drop. Also, I think that having Howard's paint presence actually reduces the need for a defensive specialist at the point. I don't think the 1 is much of a problem either way with whoever starting, the Rockets mostly need to figure the 4. And Howard might need easier touches if he gets frustrated posting up, but anyways, I just hope the coaching staff can optimize for talent.

I really don't understand why some Lin fans are so obsessed with Lin being a starter, I know since last season that you're a big time fan and I don't blame you but I don't understand how you guys think.

1. Lin doesn't fit with Harden and Harden is a much better player than Lin and therefor he is the one that goes first. Stats don't lie.

2. There's no room for a PG that needs the ball to be effective, Harden needs the ball, Parsons need the ball and Howard does as well. Lin as a pure passer is not a good idea and especially not when the Rockets have a better defender on the bench. Defense is what the first 5 needs, not a PG who needs the ball to be effective. Offense is not the problem of the first 5, defense is.

Motiejunas is not a good defender but he has good skillset in terms of offense and Harden has not proved anything in terms of being a good defender so you're wrong, Howard will not be able to make up for them both.

3. Lin is as most effective when he can have the ball in his hands and when he can set up plays which mainly involves him, like screens.

[millwad]

There's still some big unknowns though. Beverley's defense is sometimes over-aggressive and leads to early team foul trouble, so if he starts, some of his defensive effectiveness that he had as a spark off the bench might drop. Also, I think that having Howard's paint presence actually reduces the need for a defensive specialist at the point. I don't think the 1 is much of a problem either way with whoever starting, the Rockets mostly need to figure the 4. And Howard might need easier touches if he gets frustrated posting up, but anyways, I just hope the coaching staff can optimize for talent.

And Howard is a freaking center, his job is to post up and what else can he do if he doesn't post up? And if you think about others creating for him, the Rockets have both Parsons who is a nice passer and Harden who's stats talk for themselves.

[shoops]

I really don't understand why some Lin fans are so obsessed with Lin being a starter, I know since last season that you're a big time fan and I don't blame you but I don't understand how you guys think.

1. Lin doesn't fit with Harden and Harden is a much better player than Lin and therefor he is the one that goes first. Stats don't lie.

2. There's no room for a PG that needs the ball to be effective, Harden needs the ball, Parsons need the ball and Howard does as well. Lin as a pure passer is not a good idea and especially not when the Rockets have a better defender on the bench. Defense is what the first 5 needs, not a PG who needs the ball to be effective. Offense is not the problem of the first 5, defense is.

Motiejunas is not a good defender but he has good skillset in terms of offense and Harden has not proved anything in terms of being a good defender so you're wrong, Howard will not be able to make up for them both.

3. Lin is as most effective when he can have the ball in his hands and when he can set up plays which mainly involves him, like screens.
How is what I posted earlier showing that I'm obsessed with Lin being the starter? Come on, seriously now... I like the idea of him as a starter, sure, but I don't see a problem if he were to be the sixth man either if it actually worked out better. I just think they lose out a nice dynamic of having Howard finish using Lin's passes if they relegate him to the bench so quickly, they lose out on an extra offensive threat. As for defense? The biggest difference makers by far on the court in terms of defense, are Howard and Asik at the 5 spot; both contain most of the guard penetration, and Lin, while not an active defender like Beverley, does a pretty good job funneling the opposition right to them. It's mainly the smaller and quicker PGs that give him a tougher time. Yes, I agree that it might be hard for Howard to hide both Harden and D-Mo's defensive holes. Anyways, we could argue a lot about the hypotheticals but hey, only time will tell right?

And Howard is a freaking center, his job is to post up and what else can he do if he doesn't post up? And if you think about others creating for him, the Rockets have both Parsons who is a nice passer and Harden who's stats talk for themselves.
It'd be nice if Howard turned in to Olajuwon, but let's face it, he hasn't shown that much reliability posting up. Having him for defense and his ability to finish are already huge, nobody is really expecting him to be a serious post-up threat so far.

[KungFuJoe]

Has anyone even watched a preseason game, yet?

All this speculation and we don't even know how the team really looks.

On paper, they are both putting up decent numbers, with Lin a little ahead in overall production.

Lin brings more offense and passing, Beverley brings more defense.

Lin is no slouch on the defensive end...him and Beverley bring in a pretty good defensive duo at the PG spot.

Too bad Harden couldn't guard his own shadow.

[Doranku]

Dwight 4-11 from the field, 1-4 from the FT line, 5 fouls and 4 turnovers.

Shades of purple and gold Dwight right there. :oldlol:

[millwad]

How is what I posted earlier showing that I'm obsessed with Lin being the starter? Come on, seriously now... I like the idea of him as a starter, sure, but I don't see a problem if he were to be the sixth man either if it actually worked out better. I just think they lose out a nice dynamic of having Howard finish using Lin's passes if they relegate him to the bench so quickly, they lose out on an extra offensive threat. As for defense? The biggest difference makers by far on the court in terms of defense, are Howard and Asik at the 5 spot; both contain most of the guard penetration, and Lin, while not an active defender like Beverley, does a pretty good job funneling the opposition right to them. It's mainly the smaller and quicker PGs that give him a tougher time. Yes, I agree that it might be hard for Howard to hide both Harden and D-Mo's defensive holes. Anyways, we could argue a lot about the hypotheticals but hey, only time will tell right?

Lin fans in general, you should have seen how crazy upset some of Lin's fan were on Clutchfans.

I couldn't care less about Lin or any individual in particular for the Rockets, I want to see the team play some great ball and see them win. The starting 5 doesn't need yet another offensive threat, they have Harden, Parsons and Howard. Motiejunas is also an offensive minded PF so having Lin out there wouldn't make any sense.

Lin playing for the 2nd unit would make damn much sense, he can be the leader and take charge of the plays. And it's not like the 2nd unit is any bad either.



It'd be nice if Howard turned in to Olajuwon, but let's face it, he hasn't shown that much reliability posting up. Having him for defense and his ability to finish are already huge, nobody is really expecting him to be a serious post-up threat so far.

Olajuwon is a top 10 player of all-time, Howard will never be anywhere close. He's working out with McHale and Olajuwon and hopefully he'll get something out of it.

We'll see how it goes though, this will be a nice season!