Best fade away shooter.....

[9erempiree]

Who you got?

I'm going with Bean.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/chris_ballard/05/14/kobe/kobe-battier2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Kobe_Bryant_Shane_Battier.jpg/469px-Kobe_Bryant_Shane_Battier.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgg6vxHSZF1qzb7vjo1_1280.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV_JpwFp9jA

[bdreason]

More like best bad shot taker. :oldlol:

[TheReal Kendall]

The guy Kobe copied :facepalm



Michael Jeffrey Jordan

[9erempiree]

The guy Kobe copied :facepalm



Michael Jeffrey Jordan

So MJ invented the fade away?

:facepalm

[LongLiveTheKing]

Really you're going with Kobe I would have never guessed?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Kobe is the best in terms of raw volume of attempts.


Dirk is by far the best in terms of effectiveness.

[TheReal Kendall]

So MJ invented the fade away?

:facepalm


No but he does it better than Kobe and Kobe got it from MJ.

So you can say MJ invented Kobe's whole game

[9erempiree]

Really you're going with Kobe I would have never guessed?

Only a handful have mastered this shot. So I go with Kobe seeing as he the best to do it.

It's not like there is a long list because this is the most difficult shot to master.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Nowitzki

[9erempiree]

Kobe is the best in terms of raw volume of attempts.


Dirk is by far the best in terms of effectiveness.

Dirk has a nice fade but it's not versatile as Bryant's.

Bryant can fade anywhere on the court.


Some sick fade away mix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUBUqqtbJxM

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Effectiveness? Probably Dirk

Aesthetics? MJ no doubt
http://i.minus.com/i1AdTUEz80Ah5.gif

[9erempiree]

This one is pleasing to the eye too.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3167276/kobe-fadeaway-on-lebron-o.gif

That versatile fade
http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kobe-fadeaway-baseline-three-pointer-kobe-bryant-gifs.gif

[Jameerthefear]

Kobe's fade is beautiful. As far as which looks better between MJ or Kobe you can't go wrong either way (not to mention Kobe is kinda cute. :D)

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Kobe's fade is beautiful. As far as which looks better between MJ or Kobe you can't go wrong either way (not to mention Kobe is kinda cute. :D)
What are you a girl or something?

[Dresta]

Not Kobe.

[aj1987]

Effectiveness? Probably Dirk

Aesthetics? MJ no doubt
http://i.minus.com/i1AdTUEz80Ah5.gif
:eek: That fake..

GOAT!

[Batz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE
http://i.imgur.com/JIGFN.gif

[JimmyMcAdocious]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE
http://i.imgur.com/JIGFN.gif

What happened to that thread? Someone bump it.

found it.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9024862#post9024862

[Greg Oden 50]

Who you got?

I'm going with Bean.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/chris_ballard/05/14/kobe/kobe-battier2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Kobe_Bryant_Shane_Battier.jpg/469px-Kobe_Bryant_Shane_Battier.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgg6vxHSZF1qzb7vjo1_1280.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV_JpwFp9jA

of course jordan

[inclinerator]

what a surprise

[DirkNowitzki41]

obviously dirk. 2nd most unguardable shot ever

[kamil]

MJ's by far, surprised some people think Dirk's is considered above. For anyone with a somewhat functioning brain, the list goes:

1. MJ
2/3. Kobe/Dirk
4. Paul Pierce

[f0und]

kobe's fadeaway isnt reliable, in that he doesnt shoot it at a high pct, therefore, he cant have the best.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Effectiveness? Probably Dirk

Aesthetics? MJ no doubt
http://i.minus.com/i1AdTUEz80Ah5.gif
That's double dribble!

[Jameerthefear]

That's double dribble!
He was receiving a pass

[Donnybrook]

That's double dribble!

Nah, the first bounce was from the bounce pass. You just can't see it because the .gif cuts off that full pass so it looks like he is catching his own dribble.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Oh now I see it! :D

[DaSeba5]

Wow Kobe? Who would have guessed?

[G-Funk]

No but he does it better than Kobe and Kobe got it from MJ.

So you can say MJ invented Kobe's whole game
:facepalm

[G-Funk]

MJ's by far, surprised some people think Dirk's is considered above. For anyone with a somewhat functioning brain, the list goes:

1. MJ
2/3. Kobe/Dirk
4. Paul Pierce
i like 1 n 2

[G-Funk]

kobe's fadeaway isnt reliable, in that he doesnt shoot it at a high pct, therefore, he cant have the best.
:oldlol: what

[Quizno]

kobe's fadeaway isnt reliable, in that he doesnt shoot it at a high pct, therefore, he cant have the best.
lol what percentage do you think MJ shoots his fadeaway at? i bet you probably think something around 70 or 80 :oldlol:

[DirkNowitzki41]

MJ's by far, surprised some people think Dirk's is considered above. For anyone with a somewhat functioning brain, the list goes:

1. MJ
2/3. Kobe/Dirk
4. Paul Pierce

:oldlol: I hate when these ****tards say these type of things. Just because some people dont share the same views as you, means their wrong, and retarded?

[Doranku]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE
http://i.imgur.com/JIGFN.gif
That shot was absurd. I was at that game and the camera doesn't do it justice. Sooooo much high arc.

[okayabc123]

granted, kobe takes a lot of unnecessary shots, but to say dirk is more effective, uh... not by much.

dirk is a career 47.4, kobe is at 45.4 shooter if you want to look at numbers. 2% isn't even that much of a difference if you think about the amount of shots both put up.

if you both players on average, takes 20 shots per game. one makes 10 and one makes 9. that's actually a 5 percent difference. think about that, 10-20 or 9-20 really doesn't tell me one shooter is SO MUCH better than the other.

and just to be fair, Ray Allen who most people have to consider as one of the best shooter in the game, he is a career 45% shooter which is same as Kobe.

as far as this thread is concern, MJ is much better at creating separation on this fadeaways, so it looks more graceful. Kobe is more about creating space with footwork but dude just shoots it no matter if the hand is literally next to his face, or if 3 players are guarding him.

[50_40_90_]

http://i.imgflip.com/44jhu.gif (http://imgflip.com/i/44jhu)

[eklip]

dirk is a career 47.4, kobe is at 45.4 shooter if you want to look at numbers. 2% isn't even that much of a difference if you think about the amount of shots both put up.

The best way to compare the efficiency of fadeaway jumpshots is to compare the efficiency of 2pt jumpshots.

Dirk's best 2pt jumpshot % seasons (RS + PS):
49.5 (10-11)
48.6 (06-07)
48.4 (07-08)
47.8 (08-09)
47.2 (12-13)

Kobe's best seasons:
45.5 (09-10)
44.6 (10-11)
44.5 (06-07)
44.0 (08-09)

Durant:
46.6 (11-12)
45.6 (12-13)

source: basketball-reference.com

[Sakkreth]

The best way to compare the efficiency of fadeaway jumpshots is to compare the efficiency of 2pt jumpshots.

Dirk's best 2pt jumpshot % seasons (RS + PS):
49.5 (10-11)
48.6 (06-07)
48.4 (07-08)
47.8 (08-09)
47.2 (12-13)

Kobe's best seasons:
45.5 (09-10)
44.6 (10-11)
44.5 (06-07)
44.0 (08-09)

Durant:
46.6 (11-12)
45.6 (12-13)

source: basketball-reference.com

Stop posting stats, Kobe stans will accuse you of not using your eyes to judge who's better.

[pethuel03]

Best ever: MJ
Current: Kobe, Carmelo, Durant

[9erempiree]

Like I said, Kobe is the best in my humble opinion in regards to the fade away shot. His fades are just too versatile. He can do it with more range, as shown by the videos I posted.

Dirk, another good fade away shooter, only does it in close range and uses his height to exploit a defender. Does his height factor in this case? No. I like his fades and have him over MJ.

MJ, on the other hand, has a very effective fade but that's only within 15 feet. His fade's versatility doesn't stand up against Kobe's.

[9erempiree]

Stop posting stats, Kobe stans will accuse you of not using your eyes to judge who's better.

How do these numbers prove that Kobe is not the best fade away shooter?

These numbers express 2pt FG% and by no means breakdown their fade "only" shots.

There is no correlation between fades and 2pt FG% unless these stats refer to fade only shots. Which I doubt.

[Duranthebest]

Jordan, easily. /thread

[dr.hee]

There is no correlation between fades and 2pt FG% unless these stats refer to fade only shots.

Yes there is a correlation you f*cking idiot. 2pt FG% includes 2pt fadeaways. Wow, that was hard, right?

[9erempiree]

Yes there is a correlation you f*cking idiot. 2pt FG% includes 2pt fadeaways. Wow, that was hard, right?

:facepalm

You are not very smart. You have possible prenatal drug expsoure (PDE) or your reading comprehension is bad due to being moved from school to school by your mother.

Anyways, there is no correlation because those stats he posted were 2pt FG%, should we count a layup as a fade away shot now?

Too easy.

[dr.hee]

:facepalm

You are not very smart. You have possible prenatal drug expsoure (PDE) or your reading comprehension is bad due to being moved from school to school by your mother.

Anyways, there is no correlation because those stats he posted were 2pt FG%, should we count a layup as a fade away shot now?

Too easy.

:roll:

Looks like not every fat asian virgin is good at maths. Some just love Kobe...

2pt fadeways are a subset of 2pt shots. So...yeah, the data correlates in some way by default, dumbass.

Looking purely at 2pt FG% is not the way to go, I agree. But not for your brain dead reason.

[9erempiree]

:roll:

Looks like not every fat asian virgin is good at maths. Some just love Kobe...

2pt fadeways are a subset of 2pt shots. So...yeah, the data correlates in some way by default, dumbass.

Looking purely at 2pt FG% is not the way to go, I agree. But not for your brain dead reason.

:facepalm



2pt fadeways are a subset of 2pt shots. So...yeah, the data correlates in some way by default, dumbass.


"some way"???? like I said before, unless the 2pt% is referred to STRICTLY fades, then there is no correlation.

You did watch the video that I posted right? The 3pt fades from every spot on the court? Please explain how 2pt% works against Kobe as being the best fade away shooter in history when he's doing it from 3pt range.

Like I mentioned before, 2pt% has no correlation with Kobe because the guy is doing it from beyond the arc.

:facepalm Let it go kid...you have no argument.

Even if I was a fat asian kid....let me ask how it feels to be owned by one?

[Unbiased_one]

:facepalm



"some way"???? like I said before, unless the 2pt% is referred to STRICTLY fades, then there is no correlation.

You did watch the video that I posted right? The 3pt fades from every spot on the court? Please explain how 2pt% works against Kobe as being the best fade away shooter in history when he's doing it from 3pt range.

Like I mentioned before, 2pt% has no correlation with Kobe because the guy is doing it from beyond the arc.

:facepalm Let it go kid...you have no argument.

Even if I was a fat asian kid....let me ask how it feels to be owned by one?

I hate to break it to you, but there is a correlation. Loosely speaking, the events X+Y and X are not independent.

[9erempiree]

I hate to break it to you, but there is a correlation. Loosely speaking, the events X+Y and X are not independent.

Player A goes 2 for 2 with a dunk and a lay up. So that correlates to being a good fade away shooter?

[Dragonyeuw]

MJ, on the other hand, has a very effective fade but that's only within 15 feet. His fade's versatility doesn't stand up against Kobe's.

So in other words, MJ took higher percentage shots, and understood that a fadeaway from 15 feet was a higher percentage shot than one from 20 feet with 3 defenders in your face, even though Kobe has a knack for making 'bad' shots. Maybe the most backhanded compliment in the history of compliments.....

[Unbiased_one]

Player A goes 2 for 2 with a dunk and a lay up. So that correlates to being a good fade away shooter?

Anecdote is no argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

[dr.hee]

I hate to break it to you, but there is a correlation. Loosely speaking, the events X+Y and X are not independent.

This. Even as a Mavs fan, I know that Kobe is a more efficient fadeaway shooter than Dirk. How I know it? By looking at relevant data.

9erempiree is still a dumbass though...


"some way"???? like I said before, unless the 2pt% is referred to STRICTLY fades, then there is no correlation.


Are you f*cking serious? Really?

An example you probably won't understand:

Player a

50/100 shooting 2pt fadeaways
5/20 shooting 2pt assisted set shots

Player b

1/5 shooting 2pt fadeaways
90/300 shooting 2pt assisted set shots.

-------------------------------------------

Do you see where I'm getting at? Probably not, so...there's a correlation between 2pt FG% and 2pt fadeaway FG%. Always. The significance of it varies though, for example depending on how many fadeaways a player takes compared to other 2pt shot types.

But you're telling me that if 99% of a player's 2pt attempts are fadeaways, this shot type's FG% is in no way more correlating with total 2pt FG% than if only 1% of the player's 2pt attempts were fadeaways? Holy shit you suck at math, worst Asian ever. Are you brain damaged?

Oh, and Kobe is a better fadeaway shooter. He just is, objectively speaking. Not a discussion. But this conclusion can be reached looking at valid data and making sense. Your postings on the other hand are just so incredibly dumb, I mean seriously. What the hell is wrong with you?

[Unbiased_one]

...


It is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on this forum...it's like saying that there's no correlation between the number of games an nba team wins in their conference and the number they win overall...that level of idiocy is pretty much what I've come to expect from 9er though..

[dr.hee]

It is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on this forum...it's like saying that there's no correlation between the number of games an nba team wins in their conference and the number they win overall...that level of idiocy is pretty much what I've come to expect from 9er though..

Yup, but now that I've agreed that Kobe>Dirk in terms of fadeaways, while still showing he's an idiot, he'll probably kill himself due to excessive cognitive dissonance, lol. Probably causing a runtime error in his tiny brain.

[7_cody]

Shaq has a higher 2 pt fg% than MJ, so he is a better fadeaway shooter than MJ

Fact. Statistics are fact.

[Sakkreth]

OP is psychologically and mentally underdeveloped and has IQ of 70 to 85.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/retarded

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1977433/jordan-fadeaway-kobe-o.gif
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/h0opman31/jordan-fadeaway_o_GIFSoupcom.gif
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ziofau.gif
http://i52.tinypic.com/15gxthx.gif

Original is always better.

[Legends66NBA7]

I think you could give Dirk a good case for this. He's a pretty damn tough cover with that fade away.

[jstern]

Jordan won MVPs off that fade away.

Also, I've seen Jordan take 3 fade away 3 pointers when the clock was about to expire, and he hit all 3 of them.


Shaq has a higher 2 pt fg% than MJ, so he is a better fadeaway shooter than MJ

Fact. Statistics are fact.

If we're debating Jordan vs Kobe's fade away, then the eye tests is more than enough. I don't understand why people would get suckered into an argument with a Kobe stans over who was more successful at it. It's their way legitimizing their non argument.

Edit: I do realize that 9err was too young to watch Wizards Jordan.

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/h0opman31/jordan-fadeaway_o_GIFSoupcom.gif

This shot popped in my head when I saw this thread.

I believe it was on Jan 21, 1997. Knicks lost by 1 point, but only because Chris Childs hit a 3 pointer at the buzzer at the end of the game. But the Knicks got revenge on March 9, 1997, Patrick Ewing game winner.

[branslowski]

Kobe is the best in terms of raw volume of attempts.


Dirk is by far the best in terms of effectiveness.

When Kobe scored 62pts vs Dirks Mavs 61pts thru 3quarters, I'm guessing they were effected big time.

[KyleKong]

MJ.

Lol @ Kobe

[Unbiased_one]

Shaq has a higher 2 pt fg% than MJ, so he is a better fadeaway shooter than MJ

Fact. Statistics are fact.

I don't think you understand how statistics work...

[Unbiased_one]

When Kobe scored 62pts vs Dirks Mavs 61pts thru 3quarters, I'm guessing they were effected big time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

DISCLAIMER: I fully believe that kobe is a better fadeaway shooter than dirk. I just don't like the retarded arguments kobestans use

[dr.hee]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

DISCLAIMER: I fully believe that kobe is a better fadeaway shooter than dirk. I just don't like the retarded arguments kobestans use

Oh, he definitely is. There are shot type breakdowns available, and Kobe is just more effective shooting fadeaways. But like you said, not for the brain dead reasons that idiot 9er uses...

[HomieWeMajor]

Wilt
He used to shoot fadeaways from 80 feet that would hit nothing but net.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Look at David Wesley having to completely commit back to the top, or else get called for the illegal D. Predictable, 1on1 oriented weak defense of the 90's at it's finest.

Are you dense? Doubling a player WITH the ball in their hands was legal. :oldlol: @ 'illegal defense'.

[secund2nun]

kobe's fadeaway isnt reliable, in that he doesnt shoot it at a high pct, therefore, he cant have the best.

+1

Reliability is the main thing. Looking cool is useless.

[secund2nun]

Like I said, Kobe is the best in my humble opinion in regards to the fade away shot. His fades are just too versatile. He can do it with more range, as shown by the videos I posted.

Dirk, another good fade away shooter, only does it in close range and uses his height to exploit a defender. Does his height factor in this case? No. I like his fades and have him over MJ.

MJ, on the other hand, has a very effective fade but that's only within 15 feet. His fade's versatility doesn't stand up against Kobe's.

Fadeaways are honestly bad shots. You should do them as closed to the basketball as possible. Jacking fadeway shots from down town like your Kobe does is just stupid.

[TheReal Kendall]

How did this thread make it to 5 pages?

It should've ended after the 3rd post :facepalm


MJ has the best fade away I've seen in my 25 years of watching bball.

Dirk's is great due to his height

[cos88]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 9erempiree again.


jenna jameson didn't eat that much dick in her hole life as i seen you eat since reading this board.

[andgar923]

Tossup between Dirk and Garnett.
Look at David Wesley having to completely commit back to the top, or else get called for the illegal D. Predictable, 1on1 oriented weak defense of the 90's at it's finest.

YOu can't be this stupid.

[TheReal Kendall]

Tossup between Dirk and Garnett.
Look at David Wesley having to completely commit back to the top, or else get called for the illegal D. Predictable, 1on1 oriented weak defense of the 90's at it's finest.


You're an idiot. :facepalm

Wesley went for the fake pass and you could double back then.


Go watch some old school games and get your knowledge up

[KG215]

Tossup between Dirk and Garnett.
Look at David Wesley having to completely commit back to the top, or else get called for the illegal D. Predictable, 1on1 oriented weak defense of the 90's at it's finest.
:wtf:

Seriously...you can't be serious.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Are you dense? Nowhere in my post did I say doubling was illegal, and you know this. Don't make me spell it out, illegal defense rules forced players to fully committ, and not hesitate back and forth. Yes, doubling was legal.. only if you go full way which made it very predictable to manipulate and thus very difficult to double and recover. LeBron would've feasted under these rules.

You're not even saying anything. Wesley didn't "commit" because Steve Kerr was set for an open 3, idiot.

There's TONS of evidence of Jordan being blatantly doubled w/o the ball (and without the refs blowing the whistle for 'illegal defense')

Educate yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ9dBEcI_hE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K-qGWkiKvQ

The perimeter players in MJ's era had to deal with all the defensive schemes that players see today WITH handchecking (more physical play) and no welcome signs to the basket w/ 3 second violations.

[TheReal Kendall]

Rape illegal? Don't be ridiculous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhpZjpRd420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO1BiRnnS7o

Where's the footage of the hand checking not being called?

Instead you post irrelevant footage of cops that have nothing to do with the discussion.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:facepalm I can give you hours of footage of handchecking not being called in todays game.. still doesn't mean handchecking isn't illegal under todays rules.

The rules are explicit as bolded above.. referees are human and there are multiple examples of their incompetence.

I can give you multiple instances where cops ignore illegal activity.. still doesn't make said activity legal.

Those 'rules' have no bearing on the play at hand. How slow are you? :oldlol:

[juju151111]

Full-court handchecking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6XxsN8jITds#t=42s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j4FMb8jrc3A#t=51s

"I pretty much foul on every play"
Kobe admits game easier physically today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF_L6w2A1r0 and you just proved lebrick would struggle with handchecking.

[branslowski]

Wow, posters going all nostalgia with this handchecking BS. This era with advanced defensive schemes>>>70's and 80's defensive era.

[juju151111]

"Today" as in.. since his achillies injury, right? We all know Kobe as a fake tough guy that he is, always insecure about LeBron, attempting to diminish his accomplishments and whatnot.

Retired/past their prime former greats have always been insecure about the next gen. See Wilt Chamberlain.


Not really that uncommon.
Are you retarded? Kobe is still in the league:rolleyes:

[TheReal Kendall]

Wow, posters going all nostalgia with this handchecking BS. This era with advanced defensive schemes>>>70's and 80's defensive era.

I'm tired of hearing posters say this.

You guys probably can't even understand the schemes but quick to blurt this out cause you heard it on ESPN or some other idiot say it.

[Trollsmasher]

Effectiveness? Probably Dirk

Aesthetics? MJ no doubt
http://i.minus.com/i1AdTUEz80Ah5.gif
great gif

It is also obvious to anyone who isn't a nostalgia ridden MJ stan that today's defenses>>> '80 and '90.

[Unbiased_one]

I'm tired of hearing posters say this.

You guys probably can't even understand the schemes but quick to blurt this out cause you heard it on ESPN or some other idiot say it.

It's also the truth...and I almost always disagree with that guy

[TheReal Kendall]

It's also the truth...and I almost always disagree with that guy

I don't think it's true but that's just my opinion

[TheReal Kendall]

He's right.

Also.. lets not act like fullout handchecking like the video I posted (Kobe fouling the hell out of LeBron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6XxsN8jITds#t=42s)) was allowed.

Ex: http://youtu.be/YXXv7xFR7vk?t=2m50s

http://i41.tinypic.com/1grjwy.gif


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


Log off and go take a nap

[jstern]

He's right.

Also.. lets not act like fullout handchecking like the video I posted (Kobe fouling the hell out of LeBron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6XxsN8jITds#t=42s)) was allowed.

Ex: http://youtu.be/YXXv7xFR7vk?t=2m50s

http://i41.tinypic.com/1grjwy.gif

That's a gif from and old timers games in the 80s, with former 50 and probably 60 year old NBA players. I believe Red Kerr was in that game, and you try to pass it off as the players Jordan played against. Pathetic because people who try to deceive are liars.

[xoneatom]

garnett minnesota days

[Mr. Jabbar]

kobe and its not even close. and like some1 said, the fact of kobe being cute just adds to the aesthetic of the shot :applause:

sidenote: lebron has the most ugly arsenal of shots known to mankind, I'd rather watch his highlights with only sound turned on

[Rekindled]

dirk..

[Eric Cartman]

kobe and its not even close. and like some1 said, the fact of kobe being cute just adds to the aesthetic of the shot :applause:

sidenote: lebron has the most ugly arsenal of shots known to mankind, I'd rather watch his highlights with only sound turned on

:biggums:

[TheReal Kendall]

Are those not NBA officials of the 80s? What other rules do you think they were playing under? Use your head. It's a mere illustration of calls you would get if the game was slowed down. But the game is too fast and theres far too much contact to see every little handcheck. They sure didn't call it handchecking back then, but you know what? It was clearly there as shown in that gif.

Now I could go ahead and find better examples, but I'm far to busy to be watching weak era basketball. Why don't you be of good use and find it for me? Oh right, it wouldn't fit your agenda.

Jordan stans would have you believe that Jordan played against zone defense and handchecking.. while at the same time implying that they call every single handchecking call today and thus Jordan would average ridiculous numbers. :oldlol:

Back from your nap with more bs eh? :facepalm

[kamil]

:oldlol: I hate when these ****tards say these type of things. Just because some people dont share the same views as you, means their wrong, and retarded?

I never said anyone was retarded... however, I now think you are retarded.

[KingLeBronJames]

The guy Kobe copied :facepalm



Michael Jeffrey Jordan
And Jordan copied Dr. J and Jerry West. What's your point?

[Greg Oden 50]

And Jordan copied Dr. J and Jerry West. What's your point?

jordan's game is nothing like dr.j :no:
but kobe is 200% copied jordan,but he is much less efficiency's jordan

[Greg Oden 50]

Are those not NBA officials of the 80s? What other rules do you think they were playing under? Use your head. It's a mere illustration of calls you would get if the game was slowed down. But the game is too fast and theres far too much contact to see every little handcheck. They sure didn't call it handchecking back then, but you know what? It was clearly there as shown in that gif.

Now I could go ahead and find better examples, but I'm far to busy to be watching weak era basketball. Why don't you be of good use and find it for me? Oh right, it wouldn't fit your agenda.

Jordan stans would have you believe that Jordan played against zone defense and handchecking.. while at the same time implying that they call every single handchecking call today and thus Jordan would average ridiculous numbers. :oldlol:

better than lebron's soft era

[KingLeBronJames]

jordan's game is nothing like dr.j :no:
but kobe is 200% copied jordan,but he is much less efficiency's jordan
"Jordan's game is nothing like Dr. J." We're talking about stealing moves aren't we? :facepalm

[Budadiiii]

Can't help but laugh at guys who think they know more about basketball than a guy who has studied it for 26 straight years.

[Greg Oden 50]

"Jordan's game is nothing like Dr. J." We're talking about stealing moves aren't we? :facepalm

the only skills he stole from dr.j is free throw line dunk,but mj just did much better ........................walk in the sky,unlike dr.j :oldlol:

[CanYouDigIt]

Does this thread really deserve 8 pages :facepalm

[9erempiree]

I guess a majority thinks the same as I do.

[LALakerFan4Life]

I guess a majority thinks the same as I do.
Not me.

[KOBE143]

Kobe fade away should be put in one of the 8 wonders of the world.. I notice Kobe is kinda cute when he's shooting fade away that's why many players and fans felt in love to his fade away and tried to copy it but failed miserably because we know it is impossible for human.. Kobe is also one of the most handsome in the universe if not the most handsome ever.. We're bless that we have the opportunity to watch him live and also we're very fortunate to witness this once in lifetime athlete.. :bowdown:

[L.A. Jazz]

sometimes i think most of you are mad that basketball is a team game because all these other idots on the court take away shots from your beloved superstar.

this thread make you believe that there are only 3 guys with a fadeaway. i for example like Wilt's fade away off the backboard. one of his go-to-moves.

[LosBulls]

MJ's by far, surprised some people think Dirk's is considered above. For anyone with a somewhat functioning brain, the list goes:

1. MJ
2/3. Kobe/Dirk

I agree with this.

Kobes is the prettiest and he makes sure to make them when they matter the most. Oh yeah, and some of those fades he makes are close to impossible.

Dirks is the toughest to block. He made it in to a legit go-to move.

But MJ's fade.. Fades were like layups to him. Thats how easy he made them look. His fade was more consistent than Kobes and Dirks and thats what matters the most, not which looks the best.

[Budadiiii]

Kobe fade away should be put in one of the 8 wonders of the world.. I notice Kobe is kinda cute when he's shooting fade away that's why many players and fans felt in love to his fade away and tried to copy it but failed miserably because we know it is impossible for human.. Kobe is also one of the most handsome in the universe if not the most handsome ever.. We're bless that we have the opportunity to watch him live and also we're very fortunate to witness this once in lifetime athlete.. :bowdown:
Well said.