LeBron James would be stupid not to return to the Cavaliers

[PleezeBelieve]

OMFG ... we winnning !!

[dr.hee]

Return them to whom?

[Human Error]

OMFG ... we winnning !!
So LeBron should return to the Cavaliers because they're about the beat the friggin' Orlando Magic in a preseason game? Nice.

[DuMa]

Lebron owns the Cavs so he shouldnt return them

[dr.hee]

Finally got the title right? Great job! Who's a good boy? You're a good boy!

http://www.dobhran.com/images/pastor-kid6.gif

[Human Error]

:oldlol: at the original thread title.

[dr.hee]

:oldlol: at the original thread title.

The original title was something like "Lebron James would be stupid not to return thr Cavaliers.".

So what you're laughing at is probably his second try :lol

[PleezeBelieve]

Cavs win next 7 titles when LeBron comes home

[Mr. Jabbar]

If all stars align and the cavs have the best shot at the chip in the league, trust me, he'll be back there.

[dr.hee]

Cavs win next 7 titles when LeBron comes home

Cavs win tiles when Lerbron returns them to?

[Meticode]

If LeBron James comes back to the Cavaliers. RBA will stop watching basketball.

I don't want James back.

[Human Error]

The original title was something like "Lebron James would be stupid not to return thr Cavaliers.".

So what you're laughing at is probably his second try :lol
lol messed up 2 times?

[dr.hee]

lol messed up 2 times?

At least...

[PleezeBelieve]

Cavs are on the come up. OMFG... Bennett just went nuclear on the Magic. Lol

[coin24]

If all stars align and the cavs have the best shot at the chip in the league, trust me, he'll be back there.

This:oldlol:

When there is no one left to carry him on the heat he'll look for the next easiest option..

[PleezeBelieve]

Kyrie
Waiters
LeBron
Bennett
Tristan or healthy Bynum

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[dr.hee]

Kyrie
Waiters
LeBron
Bennett
Tristan or healthy Bynum

:eek: :eek: :eek:

So you've just realized that inserting Lebron into the lineup of some random team is improving it? And you even know five other players? Wow, you're a true fan. Good job :applause:

[Eric Cartman]

So you've just realized that inserting Lebron into the lineup of some random team is improving it? And you even know five other players? Wow, you're a true fan. Good job :applause:

WTF you talking about?

With Bynum healthy that could be 3 potential All Star starters.

[CavaliersFTW]

Kyrie
Waiters
LeBron
Bennett
Tristan or healthy Bynum

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Tristan Thompson is 6-7 and 3/4 of an inch tall and like 235lbs, and doesn't have any boast-worthy talents - why the hell would having him at center make you go " :eek: " I f*cking cringed when you put him as a hypothetical center with 'healthy' (never going to happen) Bynum'. The Cavs would get eaten alive by half the teams in the league with Tristan playing as center. Waiters and Bennett are undersized as it is for their positions, with Waiters only 6-2.5 and Bennett only about 6-5. You trying to put together the smallest lineup in NBA history or something!?

Kyrie 6-1.75
Dion 6-2.5
Lebron 6-7.25
Bennett 6-5
Thompson 6-7.75

...would be physically abused and destroyed by any team with a decent size front court.

[PleezeBelieve]

Tristan Thompson is 6-7 and 3/4 of an inch tall and like 235lbs, and doesn't have any boast-worthy talents - why the hell would having him at center make you go " :eek: " I f*cking cringed when you put him as a hypothetical center with 'healthy' (never going to happen) Bynum'. The Cavs would get eaten alive by half the teams in the league with Tristan playing as center. Waiters and Bennett are undersized as it is for their positions, with Waiters only 6-2.5 and Bennett only about 6-5. You trying to put together the smallest lineup in NBA history or something!?

Kyrie 6-1.75
Dion 6-2.5
Lebron 6-7.25
Bennett 6-5
Thompson 6-7.75

...would be physically abused and destroyed by any team with a decent size front court.
LMAO @ this clown's heights comments

[CavaliersFTW]

LMAO @ this clown's heights comments
You think a starting line up with an average height of under 6 foot 5 is going to be capable of doing anything against playoff teams with dominant front courts like the Pacers or Nets? Seriously? Taller lineups can be found in rec leagues. You can get away with Waiters and Bennett but Thompson can't play center at the same time as those other undersized players, you've got to even that line up out somehow, no more than 2 undersized players at a time or there's going to be serious problems trying to play defense. Judging by you calling me a clown, I take it you realized I'm right and couldn't come up with any reasonable come back afterwards so you resorted to name calling. Thompson isn't a center, he's undersized and has literally zero back to basket abilities. Best bet is to have him as back up PF to Bennett. Andy or Zeller are better centers but even then Andy would be out of position and Zeller is soft as cleanex and only has a 6-11 wingspan so in essence is still a bit 'short' in length so ideally we'd need to trade for someone either more skilled or bigger and more physical. Maybe go for a guy like Pau Gasol. Bynum isn't going to work out for the Cavs his career is pretty much done. You can't field a team that is under 6 foot 5 in the NBA and expect to survive against any team with a dominant front court.

[ihoopallday]

You think a starting line up with an average height of under 6 foot 5 is going to be capable of doing anything against playoff teams with dominant front courts like the Pacers or Nets? Seriously? Taller lineups can be found in rec leagues. You can get away with Waiters and Bennett but Thompson can't play center at the same time as those other undersized players, you've got to even that line up out somehow, no more than 2 undersized players at a time or there's going to be serious problems trying to play defense. Judging by you calling me a clown, I take it you realized I'm right and couldn't come up with any reasonable come back afterwards so you resorted to name calling. Thompson isn't a center, he's undersized and has literally zero back to basket abilities. Best bet is to have him as back up PF to Bennett. Andy or Zeller are better centers but even then Andy would be out of position and Zeller is soft as cleanex and only has a 6-11 wingspan so in essence is still a bit 'short' in length so ideally we'd need to trade for someone either more skilled or bigger and more physical. Maybe go for a guy like Pau Gasol. Bynum isn't going to work out for the Cavs his career is pretty much done. You can't field a team that is under 6 foot 5 in the NBA and expect to survive against any team with a dominant front court.

Don't even waste your time with people like him.

[Bigsmoke]

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or

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[KG215]

ISH...where overreaction to meaningless preseason games against one of the worst teams in the league happens.

[Chrono90]

Kyrie
Waiters
LeBron
Bennett
Tristan or healthy Bynum

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Both Irving and Lebron are ball dominant. Lebron needs to play on a team with a good 3point shooting PG that is not ball dominant.

[Eric Cartman]

Both Irving and Lebron are ball dominant. Lebron needs to play on a team with a good 3point shooting PG that is not ball dominant.

They're both good catch and shoot players so idk what would be the problem.

[I<3NBA]

no, he would be stupid to leave Miami. life there is great. Cleveland sucks.

[PleezeBelieve]

no, he would be stupid to leave Miami. life there is great. Cleveland sucks.
You mad, fukk boy.

[HurricaneKid]

Can't wait to see all those scorched jerseys in the stands.

[PleezeBelieve]

Home is home.

[PJR]

Home is home.

There is no NBA team in Akron.

[MavsSuperFan]

Not going to cleveland is never a bad idea.
lebron should go to NY or LA and max out his appeal to the biggest markets possible

[avonbarksdale]

Tristan Thompson is 6-7 and 3/4 of an inch tall and like 235lbs, and doesn't have any boast-worthy talents - why the hell would having him at center make you go " :eek: " I f*cking cringed when you put him as a hypothetical center with 'healthy' (never going to happen) Bynum'. The Cavs would get eaten alive by half the teams in the league with Tristan playing as center. Waiters and Bennett are undersized as it is for their positions, with Waiters only 6-2.5 and Bennett only about 6-5. You trying to put together the smallest lineup in NBA history or something!?

Kyrie 6-1.75
Dion 6-2.5
Lebron 6-7.25
Bennett 6-5
Thompson 6-7.75

...would be physically abused and destroyed by any team with a decent size front court.



do you think you could make some mock ups of what thompson's wing span and height would look like next to dwight/wilt/shaq etc?

it'd be really helpful and i'm sure a lot of posters would wanna see some more threads from the infamous cavaliersftw

[SilkkTheShocker]

Both Irving and Lebron are ball dominant. Lebron needs to play on a team with a good 3point shooting PG that is not ball dominant.

I always get a good laugh at posters that talk out their asses. Irving isn't ball dominant at all. He played a ton off the ball last season.

[secund2nun]

Irving would fit well because of his 3 point shooter, but his injury concerns are a problem. Plus to be honest, he is overrated because he is a point guard. Lebron playing for a team with a legit center would be pure domination.

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron has no heart, balls, shame or loyalty. It isn't happening.

[Flash31]

So What youre saying is LeBron
James would be smart if he left a team that went to the finals 3 straight times,won back to back and is a favorite to repeat again and had the Leagues best record and won the 2nd most games in a row in history and have a conplete team with two other all stars,the best 3 pt shooter and good defenders
and a team and Management loyal to him and respectful in Miami with more spotlight,endorsements,popularity and is most watched team

for a team

that trashed him,burned his jersey,sent death threats and wished permanent injury on him,hoped he always failed,was in one of the worst cities in the US,Cleveland,and put all the blane on him while giving him the best help in Mo Williams

and hes going to leave Miami,the Heat,management,spotlight,weather,fans
bc a bunch of unproven rookies who havent even won 40 games much less made the playoffs or even cane close to a finals
look good


What?!

LeBron found the true nature of the cavs owner and the fans
Loyalty to them Ha ha
He gave them 7 years and the Best BEST they came up with was Mo and an old Shaq
while Miami in 3 has wade,bosh,allen,miller,beasley,birdman,battier,cha lmers

Really??

[Flash31]

maybe Garnett should go back to the Timberwolves

even better like the cavs comparison
Deron Williams should go back to the Jazz
Dwight Howard should go back to the Magic


Who leaves a two time back to back champion
that went to finals 3 straight and is fav to repeat

all for what unproven rookies,make a feel good story for the people in cle and people that trashed him and get redemption

LeBron didnt force a trade(Carmelo,Dwight)
he didnt make the management choose between him and everybody else(Deron,Kobe)
he didnt throw teammates under the bus

He played out his contract,gave the cavs 7 yrs,7 relevant years in which they went to the Finals,won 60 plus games and the best they gave him was Mo

so he used his FA rights and made a decision to win
not for money,fame,being THE MAN
but to win and he did

and yet bc he left and went to a team no one expected and didnt go to teams people wanted (cavs,la,ny,chi,dal) hes hated more than any other player in history

The world knows it wasnt bc of wade,bosh
its bc he went to the heat and not others

Nobody said anything about CP3,Howard,Gasol,Kobe almost on same team
or Melo,Amare,Chandler ir Dal trying to get Deron,Dwight with Dirk in FA
or Chi having Rose,Boozer,Noah and trying to get LA there


And whats funny is Wade went from washed up,2-3rd best sg to top 5 player,one of best when LeBron joined
Bosh went from Horace Grant comparisons to top 5 player,one of best pf

and yet comparing them individually theyre nothing to haters but with LeBron
its like he assembled a dream team


LeBron isnt leaving to satisfy and redeem those haters and people

Hes in a great situation,hes in the most enviable,most lucrative spot in the NBA and team

Winning beats all

[mugiwara]

You cant deny that Wade was a straight beast when they united.

[Flash31]

You cant deny that Wade was a straight beast when they united.


of course he was and still is
26,7,5
and this yr had 22,5,6 on 52%
most efficient guard in the league and had 26,5,6 in 27 game streak

but to the haters,individually compared Wade is washed up,not even 2nd best sg
much less top 5 player but with LeBron all of a sudden hes top 5 player,Finals MVP,one of goat players and best sg


its like they want to hate feom both sides,true hypocrisy

On one side the Heat are most stacked team of all time
on the other Wade isnt even 2nd best sg,and is barely top 5 sg all time if that
and Bosh cant even compare to Horace Grant much less Malone,Dirk and isnt even a top 20 player

Its like they want to hate from all sides


And if the heat are so stacked and this all time great team
Why would LeBron leave then
And if they are the opposite,
well they still made 3 straight finals,back fo back champions,fav to repeat
won 2nd most in a row in history 27
have two other all stars and good bench
and one of most loyal,respectful organizations and management

Why Would LeBron leave?

Nobody wants to be known as a Ewing,Barkley,Malone,Stockton,Miller when discussing your greatness and all time

Nobody wants to have an AI 76ers,Wade heat,Wilt team,LeBron cavs
Team


All that matters is winning,
and LeBron and the heat are doing that in unprecedented fashion recently
3 straight,back to back and fav to make a 4th only done by the Legendary Celtics
Why would LeBron leave that?

[Rose'sACL]

LeBron has no heart, balls, shame or loyalty. It isn't happening.
like jordan? That guy never tried to give credit to pippen even after he knew how it is to be not to be the best when he went and played baseball. Jordan didn't even help pippen when pippen wasn't getting the contract from bulls that he wanted and even missed a few games because he was not happy with the money he was getting.
Remember that this is all after Jordan was exposed of being a degenerate gambler. Jordan never had any humility and like we do with movie stars, we praise anyone who is good at anything big and try to forget how many bad qualities they have.

Jordan is that guy who got lucky with basketball talent otherwise he would be in jail or probably killed somewhere.

I don't like lebron off the court but he still is better than jordan off the court.

[sportsfan76]

For me to have any respect for him as a superstar he better stay his a$$ in Miami and end his career there.

[DukeDelonte13]

from strictly a basketball perspective cleveland is in much better shape going forward.

[sportsfan76]

from strictly a basketball perspective cleveland is in much better shape going forward.


Lebron can't leave the Heat if he wants to be taken seriously as a true star in the NBA

[Bigsmoke]

LeBron has no heart, balls, shame or loyalty. It isn't happening.
I compare lebrons case to Moses Malone more so than MJs

Dude was on a team with a mediocre coach and a below average choking sidekick in mo williams. LeBron would have had it easier if he were to pick the Bulls or the Pacers over miami so i dont know why people still tweeking over shit that happened 3 years ago

[TwentyThree]

So What youre saying is LeBron
James would be smart if he left a team that went to the finals 3 straight times,won back to back and is a favorite to repeat again and had the Leagues best record and won the 2nd most games in a row in history and have a conplete team with two other all stars,the best 3 pt shooter and good defenders
and a team and Management loyal to him and respectful in Miami with more spotlight,endorsements,popularity and is most watched team

for a team

that trashed him,burned his jersey,sent death threats and wished permanent injury on him,hoped he always failed,was in one of the worst cities in the US,Cleveland,and put all the blane on him while giving him the best help in Mo Williams

After doing what he did, he deserved to have his jersey burned.


As for the fans that wished permanent injury on him, they obviously went too far with their hate, but let's not act like fans of other teams don't do the same. I'm pretty sure a lot of Miami fans celebrated Rose's injury in 2012.

[Flash31]

After doing what he did, he deserved to have his jersey burned.


As for the fans that wished permanent injury on him, they obviously went too far with their hate, but let's not act like fans of other teams don't do the same. I'm pretty sure a lot of Miami fans celebrated Rose's injury in 2012.


so leaving as a FREE AGENT after giving Cle 7 years and carrying the team and getting Mo Williams as his best option deserved death threats and the trash he got from cle

Are you going to act like hes hated bc he joined a finals contender and a solid team or is it bc he left the crap that was in cle due to best option being Mo after 7 years or bc he didnt join the team you want.

Maybe youre right he shouldve stayed in Cle with a mediocre roster his whole career,trying to be loyal to people who wanted him dead and permanently injured and who had absolutely 0 loyalty to him and couldnt care less,just carry our team while we give you crap to support you and if you leave for a better opportunity or dont go to a team we want you to,we'll wish you dead and youll be the most hated man.

It wasnt the Cavs,it was LeBron and scrubs,LeBron was the cavs,without him, cle was and is nobody and nothing.

But hey maybe tyoure right,he should have been a slave to cle and never complained,hope that cle puts some support on the court beside him and if he never won well his fault,touigh luck,or he won once well he cant leave then he happened to win.

The sheer stupidity,ignorance,hatred,hes mine and can never leave mentality you have,stop just stop.

WHO did Cle get in FA again,and even now with this so called good roster,who did Cle get,how many wins has Cle had since LeBron left
how did cle treat him after he left and then when they see the crap thats the cavs now and ho they havent even came close to the playoffs,they want LeBron back what?

Oh we like you now LeBron,come back to cle to save us,youll have a good roster this time really,we wont expect you to carry us and we'll be loyal
WHAT A BUNCH OF BULL

[TwentyThree]

so leaving as a FREE AGENT after giving Cle 7 years and carrying the team and getting Mo Williams as his best option deserved death threats and the trash he got from cle
I was talking about getting his jersey burned. Of course he didn't deserve death threats but people who did that were few and far between.


Are you going to act like hes hated bc he joined a finals contender and a solid team or is it bc he left the crap that was in cle due to best option being Mo after 7 years or bc he didnt join the team you want.
He's hated because of how he left. Not because he left. People who hate him for 'stacking the odds' would still hate him if was with the Cavs.


Maybe youre right he shouldve stayed in Cle with a mediocre roster his whole career,trying to be loyal to people who wanted him dead and permanently injured and who had absolutely 0 loyalty to him and couldnt care less,just carry our team while we give you crap to support you and if you leave for a better opportunity or dont go to a team we want you to,we'll wish you dead and youll be the most hated man.
I never said he should have stayed. He was a free agent and was free to do whatever he wanted. It worked out for him, and it's looking like it'll work out for the Cavs too. As for people not caring after he left and hating him for it, that would apply to any fanbase. If Lebron leaves the Heat in similar fashion (won't happen), the few real Heat fans will be mad at him too. If he handles it correctly then the reaction will be different.


But hey maybe tyoure right,he should have been a slave to cle and never complained,hope that cle puts some support on the court beside him and if he never won well his fault,touigh luck,or he won once well he cant leave then he happened to win.

The sheer stupidity,ignorance,hatred,hes mine and can never leave mentality you have,stop just stop.
I never said any of that.


Oh we like you now LeBron,come back to cle to save us,youll have a good roster this time really,we wont expect you to carry us and we'll be loyal
WHAT A BUNCH OF BULL
Not all cavs fans want him back. If he does come back though, most fans will be loyal to him just like they were in his first stint here, and this time he won't have to carry the team by himself. Kyrie Irving alone is better than anyone else he ever had.

[Heavincent]

Would be hilarious to see a sudden exodus of Heat "fans".

[Flash31]

I was talking about getting his jersey burned. Of course he didn't deserve death threats but people who did that were few and far between.


He's hated because of how he left. Not because he left. People who hate him for 'stacking the odds' would still hate him if was with the Cavs.


I never said he should have stayed. He was a free agent and was free to do whatever he wanted. It worked out for him, and it's looking like it'll work out for the Cavs too. As for people not caring after he left and hating him for it, that would apply to any fanbase. If Lebron leaves the Heat in similar fashion (won't happen), the few real Heat fans will be mad at him too. If he handles it correctly then the reaction will be different.


I never said any of that.


Not all cavs fans want him back. If he does come back though, most fans will be loyal to him just like they were in his first stint here, and this time he won't have to carry the team by himself. Kyrie Irving alone is better than anyone else he ever had.


That last statement is hypocritical in itself
The fans that hate him now and wanted him dead and to always fail and bc they see where their team is now without LeBron will be most loyal,What?!!


Im a real heat fan,no not since 87,93,2010 or whatever but since I started being fully invested in NBA not just watching big games
since 03 and I dont care that much about LeBron as people seem to believe Everybody does.

Im not going to hate him if he leaves or trash him,he helped win at least two championships,helped get the heat to 3 finals

and if he leaves in FA well sure real heat will be upset bc hey the best nba player is no longer playing for your team as would any other
but I wont trash him.

Lets get this straight for all cavs fans and heat haters
LeBron left as a Free Agent period,no malice,no dirtyness,cowardice,nothing
he gave the cavs 7 great years and the best help they gave him was Mo Williams
and then threw him under the bus and trashed him when the cavs didnt win and are so called most loyal but ad soon as LeBron left it was like finding out a girls true crazy nature after you broke up with her.


what exactly did LeBron do wrong in leaving as a Free Agent
nothing
It wasnt LeBrons fault the cavs did nothing and just waited oh we'll get LeBron no need to try to get any good players

LeBron did what anybody,literally anybody would hav done
he went for opportunity,support,and a chance to be champion

All the greats had help,but LeBron nope
stay in clev with scrubs,"most loyal fans"
leave us and youre the most hated player ever even though were most "loyal"

Ask PP about loyalty,Patrick Ewing,ask Barkley would he rather have a ring or Malone even though the tried but by then it was too late
even KG told Lebron how it was and will be

Kg carried the wolves and he got crap,LeBron got worse for 7,7 years
Loyalty and Our 2nd best option is Mo williams,come on
l

[aj1987]

I'm pretty sure a lot of Miami fans celebrated Rose's injury in 2012.
I don't recall anyone, even on this board (trolls included), celebrating Rose's injury. It's one thing to hate a player, but celebrating an injury? :coleman:

[Bigsmoke]

I don't recall anyone, even on this board (trolls included), celebrating Rose's injury. It's one thing to hate a player, but celebrating an injury? :coleman:


I flat out hate Kobe and felt bad when he went down

[Flash31]

I flat out hate Kobe and felt bad when he went down

Chicago,Philadelphia,Boston
are notorious for cheering an opposing player getting injured so not surprising

Most fans dont,heat fans especially unless well youre a LeBron stan,bandwagoner
in which case you either dont care or troll and haters and hate abound
so youre in joy

No real fan of any sport likes to see a player injured
unless that player was one of the dirtiest ever in which case it might be somewhat understandable

but cheering a player getting injured,thats trash right there

Unless youre the biggest Bill Laimbeer,KG,Bruce Bowen fan
come on even then
show some respect,more importantly have class and dignity

Its a game,not YOUR life
taking team pride and support to an extremely low level there

[Mr. Incredible]

LeBron has no heart, balls, shame or loyalty. It isn't happening.
Ignorance. Carry on though.

[secund2nun]

After doing what he did, he deserved to have his jersey burned.


As for the fans that wished permanent injury on him, they obviously went too far with their hate, but let's not act like fans of other teams don't do the same. I'm pretty sure a lot of Miami fans celebrated Rose's injury in 2012.

I went on the realcavsfans forum during the decision and I saw at least 3 posts wanting Lebron to die. No lie. It was hilarious chaos on Cavs boards the moment he announced his decision. There thread is still there to view I believe.