Was 2013 Nate Robinson more impactful against the Heat than Rose in 2011?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Let's start with the stats.

- Rose put up 23.4/4.0/6.6 on .35/.23/.81
- Nate put up 15.2/4.0/5.6 on .33/.31/.73

They both shot at VERY low efficiency but Nate played smarter since he distributed the ball to his teammates, whereas Rose just chucked the ball the whole series. This is evident by Nate taking a total pf 66 FGA and Rose 120. Another plus with Nate is that you can rely on him in the clutch. With Rose, we all know he'll miss at least one free throw at the end of a closely contested game.

The end result was both players leading their team to 1 win and 4 straight losses.

Edit: I incorrectly listed Nate FT% as 79%. The correct FT% is 73.3

[plowking]

I actually thought Nate was very good outside of his 0-12 game. He did a great job of getting inside and shifting the defense, even if he wasn't shooting that well in the other games either.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I actually thought Nate was very good outside of his 0-12 game. He did a great job of getting inside and shifting the defense, even if he wasn't shooting that well in the other games either.

Exactly, if you discard game 2, which you can't really blame him for anyways since it was a blowout, he had a FG% of .41. That's not bad. Almost Kobe-esque.

[poido123]

Possibly?

Was Danny Green more impactful in 2013 finals, than Lebron in 2011 finals? :confusedshrug:

I don't know what you're trying to insinuate here, other than another troll thread.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Possibly?

Was Danny Green more impactful in 2013 finals, than Lebron in 2011 finals? :confusedshrug:

I don't know what you're trying to insinuate here, other than another troll thread.

This topic is about Rose and Nate Robinson. Please don't derail the thread. Thanks.

[poido123]

This topic is about Rose and Nate Robinson. Please don't derail the thread. Thanks.

Go fck yourself you Lebron dcksucking homo.

If you're gonna troll fanbases in such an unintelligent way, expect to get some shit ******t

[KyrieTheFuture]

Possibly?

Was Danny Green more impactful in 2013 finals, than Lebron in 2011 finals? :confusedshrug:

I don't know what you're trying to insinuate here, other than another troll thread.
No Danny green was not more impactful, lebron literally lost them games with his play in 2011, green was more positively impactful for sure.

[poido123]

No Danny green was not more impactful, lebron literally lost them games with his play in 2011, green was more positively impactful for sure.

Good point.

Just showing him how annoying it is when you troll people with stupid comparisons or players that clearly don't hold the same impact or skill level...

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Go fck yourself you Lebron dcksucking homo.

If you're gonna troll fanbases in such an unintelligent way, expect to get some shit ******t

Finally showing your maturity level :applause:

[Pointguard]

Possibly?

Was Danny Green more impactful in 2013 finals, than Lebron in 2011 finals? :confusedshrug:

I don't know what you're trying to insinuate here, other than another troll thread.
Good One!

Godzilla destroyed NYC with more impact than Green Lantern did, but personally I'd rather have Green Lantern's powers. Just me.

[poido123]

Finally showing your maturity level :applause:

Says you with the troll thread :oldlol:

Takes a lot for me to say stuff like that at someone on a message board. But I've seen you post for a while now and you're in that category of posters that bring nothing to ISH other than opinion on Lebron and the Heat or bringing down other fanbases to prop up your team. Nothing else.

Sad.

[CanYouDigIt]

I didn't know fggt kangroos could type???! :wtf:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Says you with the troll thread :oldlol:

Takes a lot for me to say stuff like that at someone on a message board. But I've seen you post for a while now and you're in that category of posters that bring nothing to ISH other than opinion on Lebron and the Heat or bringing down other fanbases to prop up your team. Nothing else.

Sad.

That's because you're mentally weak like Rose. At least you own up to it. That's a good first step.

[poido123]

I didn't know fggt kangroos could type???! :wtf:


Didn't know grown men like Justin Timberlake :oldlol:

[I<3NBA]

Let's start with the stats.

- Rose put up 23.4/4.0/6.6 on .35/.23/.81
- Nate put up 15.2/4.0/5.6 on .33/.31/.79

:biggums:

Rose's numbers were all higher.

[NumberSix]

:biggums:

Rose's numbers were all higher.
So was Rose.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Fear

[SilkkTheShocker]

That's because you're mentally weak like Rose. At least you own up to it. That's a good first step.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Fear

You said the same thing during the ECF 11, son.

[branslowski]

Nah, he didnt.

Better thread would be "who had more impact on wins during the 2011' Finals, Jason Terry or Lebron?".

[SilkkTheShocker]

Nah, he didnt.

Better thread would be "who had more impact on wins during the 2011' Finals, Jason Terry or Lebron?".


LeBron>>>>Kobe

I know it still stings, but you will come to terms with it one day.

[branslowski]

LeBron>>>>Kobe

I know it still stings, but you will come to terms with it one day.

Are you talking about currently? He is, Kobe's old and injured. Bron is the best in the league currently. Shit, Tmac was better than Jordan in 03'. Nothing wrong with that.

[Go Getter]

Possibly?

Was Danny Green more impactful in 2013 finals, than Lebron in 2011 finals? :confusedshrug:

I don't know what you're trying to insinuate here, other than another troll thread.
What about Bron's first finals in Cleveland? :roll:

People love to overlook the fact that Nate can't guard anyone and rarely keeps his man out the lane when we needed it. :facepalm

[aj1987]

Kobetards bringing up '11 Finals like '00, '04, and '08 never happened.

[branslowski]

Kobetards bringing up '11 Finals like '00, '04, and '08 never happened.

1. 5rings

2. A bulls fan brought up the 11' Finals first.

3. I dont see u bitchen about ur fellow Lebron cawk grabber creating a thread about Ros

[imdaman99]

No he wasn't. I don't even like Rose, but I swear you BronzeStans are making me like him more and more :facepalm

[KyrieTheFuture]

Rose is about to get my Dwight Howard and LeBron James treatment where so many people hate him for the dumbest reasons of all time that I'm forced to actually like them.

[Legends66NBA7]

Was the fabrication of Nate's FT% really necessary ? Full stats:

11 Rose: 23.4ppg 4rpg 6.6apg 1spg 0.2bpg 3.8tpg 35%fg (42/120) 23.3%3pt (7/30) 81.3%ft (26/32) in 41.9mpg

13 Nate: 15.2ppg 4rpg 5.6apg 1.6spg 0.4bpg 3.6tpg 33.3%fg (22/66) 31.3%3pt (10/32) 73.3%ft (22/30) in 38.9mpg

And despite should much more, Rose passed the ball more too. Shouldn't it have ended when Rose scores like 8+ more ppg ? Nothing in the stats suggest Nate was more impactful. In terms of on-court presence, Rose got more attention from the Heat defense than Nate did.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Was the fabrication of Nate's FT% really necessary ? Full stats:

11 Rose: 23.4ppg 4rpg 6.6apg 1spg 0.2bpg 3.8tpg 35%fg (42/120) 23.3%3pt (7/30) 81.3%ft (26/32) in 41.9mpg

13 Nate: 15.2ppg 4rpg 5.6apg 1.6spg 0.4bpg 3.6tpg 33.3%fg (22/66) 31.3%3pt (10/32) 73.3%ft (22/30) in 38.9mpg

And despite should much more, Rose passed the ball more too. Shouldn't it have ended when Rose scores like 8+ more ppg ? Nothing in the stats suggest Nate was more impactful. In terms of on-court presence, Rose got more attention from the Heat defense than Nate did.

It was a mistake. I've corrected the OP.

[Legends66NBA7]

It was a mistake. I've corrected the OP.

Cool.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

[QUOTE=branslowski]1. 5rings

2. A bulls fan brought up the 11' Finals first.

3. I dont see u bitchen about ur fellow Lebron cawk grabber creating a thread about Ros

[aj1987]

1. 5rings
4 MVP's (3 more than Kobe) 2 Rings and 2 FMVP's (the same as Kobe) in only 10 years.


2. A bulls fan brought up the 11' Finals first.
You must've missed the part where I said Kobetards, Kobetard. Wasn't talking about Rose homers. Rose never made it to the Finals, so it's kinda irrelevant.

[QUOTE=branslowski]3. I dont see u bitchen about ur fellow Lebron cawk grabber creating a thread about Ros

[branslowski]

4 MVP's (3 more than Kobe) 2 Rings and 2 FMVP's (the same as Kobe) in only 10 years.


You must've missed the part where I said Kobetards, Kobetard. Wasn't talking about Rose homers. Rose never made it to the Finals, so it's kinda irrelevant.


You're bitching about Lebron in a Rose thread, players who don't have any connection to the Lakers. At all.


Go sit your ass on Kobe's dick.

Lol, Nash 2 Mvps>>Shaq 1

Kobe more Alltime points
Kobe more Alltime Playoff points
Kobe More ALLNBA Teams
Kobe more All Defensive Teams
Kobe More AllStar Teams
Kobe more titles
Same amount of Finals MVPs

But u knew that...

Anyway, I like Lebron. How did I bitch about him? By telling the truth?:oldlol:

Also, Im not gay, soo....

[aj1987]

Kobe more Alltime points
Kobe more Alltime Playoff points
Kobe More ALLNBA Teams
Kobe more All Defensive Teams
Kobe More AllStar Teams
Kobe more titles
Same amount of Finals MVPs

You must've missed the part where Lebron played 7 seasons less than Kobe.

[branslowski]

You must've missed the part where Lebron played 7 seasons less than Kobe.

So? You started comparing career accomplishments. Thats a career. Yawl like to place Lebron certain places in the top 10, so ofcource u bring out accomplishments throughout a career. Are you dumb?

What, u think Im suppose to follow some created career marker point to make you happy?:oldlol:

Oh, u must of thought I was sweet like Jordan fans who let yawl do that "stats at age 28" stuff even though we both know thats a dumb cut off point to look at.

Theres players whos played more seasons than Lebron who has less accomplishments aswell, guess wat? Doesnt matter because we are talking about Alltime dipshit and LeBron may blow them out of the water.

Are U talking currently? Then yes, Lebron is better than old injured Kobe rightnow. But if u were just talkin currently, u wouldnt have posted those 4 regular seasons MVPs now would you?

Nice try, I think u should debate with a lesser poster kid. Cause Im like God. Choose ur battles wisely.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Branslowski going h@m on the Heat stans. lmfao

[KyrieTheFuture]

Branslowski going h@m on the Heat stans. lmfao
Too bad his excellent points are immediately followed by him being a massive douche thus rendering everything he said irrelevant.

[GrapeApe]

I'm sure the Heat applied the same level of game planning and defensive attention for Nate Robinson as they did for the league MVP.

[aj1987]

So? You started comparing career accomplishments. Thats a career. Yawl like to place Lebron certain places in the top 10, so ofcource u bring out accomplishments throughout a career. Are you dumb?
You were the one who brought up career accomplishments with Kobe's "5 rings" comment.
I don't have Lebron in my top 10.
7. Bird
8. Duncan
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem.
:facepalm


What, u think Im suppose to follow some created career marker point to make you happy?:oldlol:

Oh, u must of thought I was sweet like Jordan fans who let yawl do that "stats at age 28" stuff even though we both know thats a dumb cut off point to look at.

Theres players whos played more seasons than Lebron who has less accomplishments aswell, guess wat? Doesnt matter because we are talking about Alltime dipshit and LeBron may blow them out of the water.

Are U talking currently? Then yes, Lebron is better than old injured Kobe rightnow. But if u were just talkin currently, u wouldnt have posted those 4 regular seasons MVPs now would you?

Nice try, I think u should debate with a lesser poster kid. Cause Im like God. Choose ur battles wisely.
What the **** are you even babbling about? Lebron's 10 year career is borderline top 10. One more ring and it's official. Lebron > Kobe. Deal with it.

Forgot to post these...

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-XY221_COUNT0_G_20130621200910.jpg
http://1o983vok8t81oeev33de64c8nq.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/a0cf0f1ffd84b82bf342377f86272486_large-477x294.png

Kobetard logic: "MVP's are media awards and don't count!!111"
"Kobe has more All-Star, All-NBA and All-D selections" :facepalm

[secund2nun]

Good point.

Just showing him how annoying it is when you troll people with stupid comparisons or players that clearly don't hold the same impact or skill level...

Green would NEVER be able to average what Lebron averaged in the 11 finals with 17-7-7 on 46% fg. Lebron gets flack because he under performed, but Lebron underperforming is 1000 times better than Green.

But here Nate outplays Rose period. Rose is overrated. Get over it.

[TheReturn]

OP is a moron.

[aj1987]

But here Nate outplays Rose period. Rose is overrated. Get over it.
Are you stupid? In what way did Nate outplay Rose? Rose scored more, assisted more, rebounded more, defended better and was more efficient. :facepalm

[secund2nun]

Are you stupid? In what way did Nate outplay Rose? Rose scored more, assisted more, rebounded more, defended better and was more efficient. :facepalm

Rose's shot jacking hurt them big time. In the end both fell in 5, yet at least Rose had Deng while the bulls did not even have Deng in this year's series. Yes I am the stupid one yet you are the one who has Kobe in your top 10 of all time ...much less over Hakeem and countless other far superior bball players :roll:

[aj1987]

Rose's shot jacking hurt them big time. In the end both fell in 5, yet at least Rose had Deng while the bulls did not even have Deng in this year's series. Yes I am the stupid one yet you are the one who has Kobe in your top 10 of all time ...much less over Hakeem and countless other far superior bball players :roll:
Pass it to who? Wasn't Deng shooting ~40%?

Anyone who doesn't have Kobe in their top 10 IS an idiot.

[secund2nun]

Pass it to who? Wasn't Deng shooting ~40%?

Anyone who doesn't have Kobe in their top 10 IS an idiot.

Deng's defense helps teams win. He is a good player certainly better than a backup.

Actually it is the opposite. Kobe is not even close to top 10 of all time. Prime Kobe could not even win a single playoff series in the 3 seasons he got without a prime HOF big man. He led his team to 2 7th seeds (both first round losses) and then a missed playoffs. And that was PRIME Kobe.

He is the most overrated athlete of modern times.

[aj1987]

Deng's defense helps teams win. He is a good player certainly better than a backup.
I agree with you. He's a good player, but he wasn't shooting the ball consistently either. Rose needed a reliable second scorer and there wasn't one. Instead of blaming Rose, you guys should credit the Heat team defense.



Actually it is the opposite. Kobe is not even close to top 10 of all time. Prime Kobe could not even win a single playoff series in the 3 seasons he got without a prime HOF big man. He led his team to 2 7th seeds (both first round losses) and then a missed playoffs. And that was PRIME Kobe.

He is the most overrated athlete of modern times.


Lebron couldn't win without Wade/Bosh. Are you also gonna say that Lebron is an overrated player?

[Trollsmasher]

What about Bron's first finals in Cleveland? :roll:

People love to overlook the fact that Nate can't guard anyone and rarely keeps his man out the lane when we needed it. :facepalm
Rose could not guard even his own mom if she played against him.

[poido123]

I go away to have a sleep, I come back on here and I see an all out KObe vs Lebron war and two Heat fans fighting :lol

Secondtonun has gone full retard. He probably thinks Hinrich has more impact than Rose because he's a better defender :rolleyes:

Poor AJ1987 has to put up with some serious morons amongst his fanbase, but then he mentioned Kobe in a bad way and Branslowski has gone into full attack mode :lol

[poido123]

Rose could not guard even his own mom if she played against him.

Do you like glue? I like glue.

[nathanjizzle]

i dont know, but rose did play like shit, but thats 3 seasons ago...

[Trollsmasher]

Do you like glue? I like glue.
Jeff, do we really have to suffer posters like this? This is not even a traffic-bringing, valuable trolling, just a complete nonsense.

[Legends66NBA7]

Jeff, do we really have to suffer posters like this? This is not even a traffic-bringing, valuable trolling, just a complete nonsense.

You found that suffering ?

[NumberSix]

Do you like glue? I like glue.
You also like other glue-like substances.

[poido123]

You also like other glue-like substances.

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Bigsmoke]

no he didn't

[Dengness9]

Another day another thread about Derrick made by a heat stan....


You guys are way into Rose. Get off his nuts, we know you are excited he's back.


Awesome that homo OP had to fabricate statistics to try to make a point in which he failed miserably.

Hopefully your parents or kids gets AIDS.:applause: :applause:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Another day another thread about Derrick made by a heat stan....


You guys are way into Rose. Get off his nuts, we know you are excited he's back.


Awesome that homo OP had to fabricate statistics to try to make a point in which he failed miserably.

Hopefully your parents or kids gets AIDS.:applause: :applause:

You're a very classy individual. Insulting my parents. That's very brave. :applause:

[Dictator]

Exactly, if you discard game 2, which you can't really blame him for anyways since it was a blowout, he had a FG% of .41. That's not bad. Almost Kobe-esque.

I don't know why I laughed. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Dengness9]

You're a very classy individual. Insulting my parents. That's very brave. :applause:


Your ma's a bust down, shut up.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Your ma's a bust down, shut up.

It's funny how butthurt you kids get when I make fun of your idol. How do you worship an athlete so much that you hope other people get AIDS :facepalm

[Dengness9]

It's funny how butthurt you kids get when I make fun of your idol. How do you worship an athlete so much that you hope other people get AIDS :facepalm


MJ is my idol. And the person who gives your P's aids will then take his place.


Go turn your car on in the garage and take a nap.

Stop being so sensitive. I obviously dont want any innocent people to get aids and die.....

nope, actually i do. Your family.

[poido123]

Another day another thread about Derrick made by a heat stan....


You guys are way into Rose. Get off his nuts, we know you are excited he's back.


Awesome that homo OP had to fabricate statistics to try to make a point in which he failed miserably.

Hopefully your parents or kids gets AIDS.:applause: :applause:


Comon man, you can make your point without having to wish death on somebody or kids...

You're a better poster than that Dengness.

That goes for Numbersix and and other idiots calling me a Pedo :facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

It's funny how butthurt you kids get when I make fun of your idol. How do you worship an athlete so much that you hope other people get AIDS :facepalm

What was your supposed endgame to this when you decided to annoy another fan base and vice versa they did the same thing ?

That you all come together and sing kumbaya ?

[poido123]

What was your supposed endgame to this when you decided to annoy another fan base and vice versa they did the same thing ?

That you all come together and sing kumbaya ?

:lol

[Dengness9]

I am better than that but i stopped trying years ago when this forum went to shit because of the Miami heat stans....

Now i just troll them because why not?:confusedshrug:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

What was your supposed endgame to this when you decided to annoy another fan base and vice versa they did the same thing ?

That you all come together and sing kumbaya ?

I don't recall making any comment where I personally insulted or wished ill to anyone.

[poido123]

I don't recall making any comment where I personally insulted or wished ill to anyone.

Please don't go arguing technicalities when you clearly started a troll thread.

[ripthekik]

wow, why are lebron stans so scared of rose??
finally found out lebron never won a ring with a healthy rose??
:roll: :roll:

[plowking]

wow, why are lebron stans so scared of rose??
finally found out lebron never won a ring with a healthy rose??
:roll: :roll:

Last season he did.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Please don't go arguing technicalities when you clearly started a troll thread.

How is me making a little fun of Rose on the same level as wishing another person gets killed?

[aj1987]

wow, why are lebron stans so scared of rose??
finally found out lebron never won a ring with a healthy rose??
:roll: :roll:
The Bulls beat the Heat in the Finals in '11?

[ripthekik]

Last season he did.
Is that what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better?
Rose wasn't. Even if he came back, he'd be just coming back from ACL injury.

Lebron is just used to having all odds stacked in his favor and other superstars being injured. That's why his rings aren't worth a crap. Kevin Durant's fiance's WNBA ring >>>>> Lebron's 2

[Legends66NBA7]

Is that what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better?

Really ?

This is your opening sentence ? Man, the irony.

[Trollsmasher]

Really ?

This is your opening sentence ? Man, the irony.
:lol

[NumberSix]

wow, why are lebron stans so scared of rose??
finally found out lebron never won a ring with a healthy rose??
:roll: :roll:
Why would it matter if he did or didn't? Has Kobe won a ring with a healthy Oden? :confusedshrug:

[ripthekik]

Why would it matter if he did or didn't? Has Kobe won a ring with a healthy Oden? :confusedshrug:
Right, seeing that you have the brain of a fifth grader, I'll explain it to you.
Oden doesn't matter because he's a nobody. Not an all-star, never an MVP.

Why does Rose matter? He's the youngest MVP in history, only guy to win it last few years except Lebron, and a superstar in the eastern conference. That's right, fellow superstars in the eastern conference are hard to find now because Lebron joined them together to avoid resistance. Rose provides that resistance.

[Dengness9]

Trollsmasher, NumberSix, HoopfannumeroAids..... anyone notice what they all have in common???


BANDWAGON HOPPERS. Didn't like the Heat prior to the Big 3 and wont after they are done after this season.

Not real fans. FACT.



EDIT: Oh, and they will post in any thread that has to do w/ their GAWD Derrick Rose.

[VIntageNOvel]

http://www.behindthebasket.com/storage/post-images/SOneal%20KBryant.jpg

whats your point?

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21900000/Hodor-Bran-game-of-thrones-21931189-500-355.png
http://www.gameof-thrones.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/hodor1.jpg

which one is the lord of winterfell? :confusedshrug:

[Trollsmasher]

whats your point?

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21900000/Hodor-Bran-game-of-thrones-21931189-500-355.png
http://www.gameof-thrones.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/hodor1.jpg

which one is the lord of winterfell? :confusedshrug:
legitimized Jon Snow:confusedshrug: