I don't understand why Chicago is seen as such a big threat to Miami.

[Connor B]

I understand why on paper Chicago is seen as a threat to Miami, they are a tough match up, but if you look at actual playoff history we are going off one series in the Lebron era/Rose healthy that defines that whole rivalry: 2011 ECF.

Which went 5 games. And yet everyone seems to act like that was such a great series for some reason. Good basketball, entertaining, competitive, but not long and competitive in the way Indiana-Miami was last year or Spurs-Miami was last year. I realize that series coulda gone 6, maybe 7, if Wade/Lebron didn't have that 15 point comeback in game 5, but they did right in Chicago.

I was talking to my friend, a Heat fan today, and he said Chicago is seen as a threat in part because of how much better Noah as gotten. I agree Noah is great, I agree Tom T. is one of the 3 best coaches in the NBA, but the offensive fire power the Heat have is just too great. Indiana is a bigger threat, easily.

[retaxis]

Bulls hate miami more then cavs hated the celtics. Lebron beat rose up during his cav years and smashed his team twice in Miami era. Its 3x beat up. Sooner or later the bulls will realise that and play even harder i suppose lol

[ripthekik]

because lebron fans are just now realizing that Lebron has never won a championship in a year that Rose was healthy and playing.

in other words, Lebron has had the easiest paths in the east. Now with a healthy Rose back, Lebron no longer has that wide open path. Lebron fans see this and feel insecure and threatened.

[East_Stone_Ya]

because Chicago is not a threat, just some bulls fans want their team to be relevant now that Rose is back. I see more threat this year from Nets and Knicks to be honest.

[Bigsmoke]

because Chicago is not a threat, just some bulls fans want their team to be relevant now that Rose is back. I see more threat this year from Nets and Knicks to be honest.

The Nets with like 3 maxed players lost to the Bulls reserves last year. :lol

That shit better not happen again

[East_Stone_Ya]

The Nets with like 3 maxed players lost to the Bulls reserves last year. :lol

That shit better not happen again

only this time there is no Nate the Ape for the bulls

[chips93]

i think the bulls have a higher ceiling than the pacers. both are elite defensive teams, but rose has the potential to win a game or two all by himself with his scoring, and you cant say that for anybody on the pacers.

[Bigsmoke]

only this time there is no Nate the Ape for the bulls

Yeah.. just Rose and he about to go HAM

[qrich]

It's the Derrick Rose factor.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Now just Rose going HAM

only time will how Rose performs once the playoffs starts

[El Kabong]

Bulls still have room to add something to their team. Imagine if they could grab Al Horford, LaMarcus Aldrige or Pau Gasol? They've got Boozers contract, the draft rights to Nikola Mirotic and Charlotte's 1st round pick to play with.

[nathanjizzle]

Because the bulls proven that they can beat the heat consistently in the regular season, we even swept them one year. Ofcourse the PO is a different animal but that doesn't mean reg season doesn't prove anything. The only playoff year we have to go on is in 2011 when dross played his ass off the whole regular season and didn't have much left for the postseason. Also excuse or not he did twist his ankle twice inthe Indy series. I still believe if rose shot just 44 percent in the heat series we would have won, but he shot 36. Rose just took to many shots that series he should have involved boozer more.

Also we have Jimmy Butler who can gaurd both Wade and bron, and score points.

[Hoopz2332]

Chicago aren't the threat the Pacers are because while they are big and can pound Miami, it's not enough to make Miami abandon their small ball concept which is something the Pacers were able to do for 2 reasons,,

1. Hibbert - was able to defend the hoop w/o getting into foul trouble and for some reason he's a beast on offense against Miami. Boozer and Noah aren't as impacful vs Miami. Infact, Boh owns Boozer and Noah but gets totally dominated by Hibbert.

2. David West - biggest reason why the Heat can't play small ball vs the Pacers because he owns Bosh and Battier which is why Haslem gets more minutes but shrinks the floor spacing because he doesn't shoot 3's. Bulls don't have David West type player.

[Trollsmasher]

I don't get it either. They don't have either of the two things that can beat the Heat:
- dominant low post player
- great (not just solid) 3 point shooting

And we all know that Thibs will run them to ground in the RS, considering their weak bench, so Noah and Deng will come into the PS halfway physically done once again.

And Rose is not a guy that can lead a team to the ring.

Indiana is a much greater threat.

[coin24]

Butler aka Lebron stopper. Had him shook as fu*k Diaw style:rockon:

With a healthy rose and Noah they match up well and play physical defense against those heat pansies..

[Nuff Said]

because lebron fans are just now realizing that Lebron has never won a championship in a year that Rose was healthy and playing.

in other words, Lebron has had the easiest paths in the east. Now with a healthy Rose back, Lebron no longer has that wide open path. Lebron fans see this and feel insecure and threatened.

You say it like healthy rose was the deciding factor in lebron not getting a ring. Lebron has always beaten the bulls and in rose's best year when he won MVP he still got beat by Miami. Rose has nothing at all to do with lebron and rings.

[Kblaze8855]

You cant count out any good team. Much less a team that had the best record in the NBA the last 2 years they had their best player. The Bulls were supposed to be no threat to the defending champion Heat in 2007 too.

Zo talking shit about how the Bulls wanted them...and were gonna get them. Shaq all smug. Wade laughing. Heat fans:





I can see Miami winning this game in 6. Shaq is going to tear up big ben, who's going to stop wade?

Kirk?

He can't hold Wade and Wade is going to prove it, Chicago will lose in 6.


And then they get swept.

Thats why they play the games.

Writing off any good team in October makes no sense. The Bulls might well win 64 games, face Miami with homecourt, have a banged up Wade again with Bosh playing Sam Perkins level ball again. Butler might be a 17ppg all d first teamer shooting 40% from 3, with Rose playing MVP ball, Noah on his Rodman/Vlade Divac hybrid, Dunleavy making jumpers, Boozer giving the solid 14/9, Taj looking like 2011 again, and Deng back in all star form. Who knows what happens?

Bulls arent a team you can dismiss this soon.

Especially not over what used to happen. If teams never got past the team that used to beat them all the time the Bulls would never have knocked off the Badboys, the Badboys never would have knocked off the Celtics, the celtics would have won every ring in the 60s instead of almost every ring, and on and on and goes. The Suns eventually beat the Spurs. Anything can happen.

We arent talking Buster Douglas vs Tyson here. It isnt THAT unlikely the Bulls could win.

And Buster won himself.......

Not one person here would have said the Mavs were that big a threat to the Heat before 2011 started. Midseason? Some did. Preseason?

Bit early to make these calls.

We could come out 14-10 or 22-2 and nobody would be that surprised either way. Lets see. I have my league pass ready. International league pass so no blackouts. Im watching it start to finish.

This is what its all about.

Wouldnt be the first time the Bulls knocked off the preseason paper champs. Wouldnt even be the first time it happened lately....

Or the first time it happened lately when that paper champ was the Heat.....

[Graviton]

While on paper Bulls seem like a real threat, I have little hope as long as Deng and Boozer are starters. Those 2 always disappear against Miami in the playoffs, Deng is like the easiest matchup for Lebron and long, agile PFs like Bosh own Boozer. The fact there is no reliable 2nd option on offense is also an issue, Miami will just focus on Rose and force someone else to punish them but I doubt there will be anyone with enough offensive skill to beat that rotating Miami defense. The lack of shooters is a weakness too, Miami has an army of 3 point threats while Bulls just have a couple, losing Korver hurt them badly.

I have watched almost all Miami and Bulls games the past 2 seasons, there is a certain mental advantage Miami has against Chicago. Their games will be close grueling battles, but at the end of the day Lebron is more likely to carry the game than Rose. It's easier to shut down a PG, compared to a 260 pound 6'9 SF that happens to be the best athlete in the league. Heat just have too many advantages to overcome without a legit 2nd option.

[Sakkreth]

It's the Derrick Rose factor.

When he's defended by Bron he becomes a non factor though.

[poido123]

Butler aka Lebron stopper. Had him shook as fu*k Diaw style:rockon:

With a healthy rose and Noah they match up well and play physical defense against those heat pansies..

:applause:

Not a Lebron stopper but he can contain him enough to cause the Heat some problems since Lebron dominates alot of the ball.

Which brings me to the posters on here doubting the Bulls as a threat to Miami.

Here are my thoughts;

Miami is going into yet another finals campaign, 4th long ass run that only gets more difficult each year.

Butler has emerged and is entering his 3rd season, which we should see him further improve. He will of learnt alot from playing Lebron the last finals and the kid is only getting better.

Dunleavy has come on board, he's a guy Bulls can rely on to make good decisions under pressure, but also space the floor for Rose. Last year he hit .428 of his threes, you don't leave him open.

Noah improved his fitness base last offseason and was able to play big minutes during the year because of it. He is coming into his prime and we should see him get a little bit better too.

Gibson has had an awesome preseason, he could be a difference maker if he's taking minutes and pressure off Boozer and Noah with good play. Definately an important player.

Rose looks to still have his athleticism, as the year goes on he'll be able to shake off that rust. We should also start to see that improved jumpshot he's been working on. Very important that he shoots well if/when they play Miami in the playoffs.

2011, all the games were close, only one blowout which the Bulls achieved. In game 5, Bulls had a 7 point lead with 1 and a half minutes to play, so series could of easily been 6 games. The 5 games was not a good indication of how close that series was.

I think now that we have Butler to do a job on Lebron, will probably mean Deng will have more energy to spend on offense, each year the Bulls passing has improved dramatically, we are a much much better team than 2011 and I think from what I've read from posters here, they are severely underrating our chances.

I believe the Bulls can beat them, we will see :pimp:

[Chicago Brawls]

2011 ECF.

Keith Bogans.

[mugiwara]

2011 ECF.

Keith Bogans.

Holds a record for lowest dribble count per game for a starter coming from the shooting guard position.

[poido123]

2011 ECF.

Keith Bogans.

He was so good at defense, which is why he was playing alot, but man he deflated the Bulls so much with the amount of clanks he did. So many open shots but couldn't hit shit.

[Haymaker]

No other team leaves their blood sweat and tears in the court when playing against Miami like the Bulls do. That's what makes them such a formidable opponent for them.

[PJR]

2011 ECF.

Keith Bogans.

Mike Bibby and Joel Anthony. Spare me that excuse.

[#number6ix#]

Bulls are a threat... I don't understand how anybody who claims to know the game can't see that... The have the coaching, personnel,defense,and style of play that gives us a hard time...

Home court is gonna be absolutely crucial this season

[poido123]

Mike Bibby and Joel Anthony. Spare me that excuse.

Wait a minute.

Bogans had a significant role on the Bulls team that year. Those guys you mentioned did not.

The reason Bogans impacted us so badly, was he further exacerbated the lack of offense the Bulls already had.

Saying Bibby and Anthony were as detrimental to the Heat is not even close. Heat didnt lack offense, so anthony's weaknesses were easily masked. I think I recall Chalmers playing the bulk of point guard duties?

[SilkkTheShocker]

They aren't a problem for Miami. Just a bunch of LeBron haters praying to God that Miami loses to them. The truth is, Chicago doesn't have a chance of winning a series against Miami being led by a mentally weak loser like Derrick Rose.

Bulls are 0-3 all-time against LeBron.

Soon to be 0-4.

CAN"T WAIT (Bart Scott voice).

[SilkkTheShocker]

2011 ECF.

Keith Bogans.

Who cares? Miami started Bibby, Anthony, and had absolutely no bench of any kind. Don't be mad your franchise player got his ass handed to him by The King. 6% shooting son. Get mad :oldlol:

[poido123]

Who cares? Miami started Bibby, Anthony, and had absolutely no bench of any kind. Don't be mad your franchise player got his ass handed to him by The King. 6% shooting son. Get mad :oldlol:


That's a nice red necklace you have under your avatar :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

That's a nice red necklace you have under your avatar :oldlol:

A lot nicer than the typical pearl necklace your life partner leaves on ur chest every night.

[tmacattack33]

I understand why on paper Chicago is seen as a threat to Miami, they are a tough match up, but if you look at actual playoff history we are going off one series in the Lebron era/Rose healthy that defines that whole rivalry: 2011 ECF.

Which went 5 games. And yet everyone seems to act like that was such a great series for some reason. Good basketball, entertaining, competitive, but not long and competitive in the way Indiana-Miami was last year or Spurs-Miami was last year. I realize that series coulda gone 6, maybe 7, if Wade/Lebron didn't have that 15 point comeback in game 5, but they did right in Chicago.

I was talking to my friend, a Heat fan today, and he said Chicago is seen as a threat in part because of how much better Noah as gotten. I agree Noah is great, I agree Tom T. is one of the 3 best coaches in the NBA, but the offensive fire power the Heat have is just too great. Indiana is a bigger threat, easily.

If the Pacers were from a top 3 metropolitan area like Chicago, everyone would be talking about them being the Heat's main competition.

And if R. Westbrook changed positions with D. Rose, Westbrook would be Adidas's main guy and would be on all those commercials. People would be praising his great two-way ability (great offense and defense) and saying how it reminds them of MJ and Scottie.

It's that simple, really.

[poido123]

A lot nicer than the typical pearl necklace your life partner leaves on chest every night.

Nice try, airball. :(

[bingo123]

Wait a minute.

Bogans had a significant role on the Bulls team that year. Those guys you mentioned did not.

The reason Bogans impacted us so badly, was he further exacerbated the lack of offense the Bulls already had.

Saying Bibby and Anthony were as detrimental to the Heat is not even close. Heat didnt lack offense, so anthony's weaknesses were easily masked. I think I recall Chalmers playing the bulk of point guard duties?

Just wanted to tell you that both Anthony(27,4 MPG) and Bibby(20,8 MPG) played more minutes in the playoffs than Bogans(19,2 MPG).Also, there is a reason why Anthony was considered the worst offensive player in the leauge by many and Bibby set the record (or was close to one) with his atrocius shooting 28% FG on WIDE OPEN SHOTS. So there is no way Bogans was holding the Bulls back more than those two guys did.

[PJR]

Wait a minute.

Bogans had a significant role on the Bulls team that year. Those guys you mentioned did not.

The reason Bogans impacted us so badly, was he further exacerbated the lack of offense the Bulls already had.

Saying Bibby and Anthony were as detrimental to the Heat is not even close. Heat didnt lack offense, so anthony's weaknesses were easily masked. I think I recall Chalmers playing the bulk of point guard duties?

Nonsense. Joel Anthony was extremely detrimental to the Heat's spacing. He was literally incapable of cleanly catching a dump off pass,while being wide open. And Bibby whom the Heat had brought in for shooting, had possibly the worst postseason for a starter in NBA history. Not to mention he was a liability on defense as well.

Miami in 2011 was basically James, Wade, and Bosh playing inside of a box. The fact that they got to the Finals with the surrounding pieces (or lack there of) that they had was a testament to the raw ability of those three players. Chicago had the better depth top to bottom, but lacked the top end talents that Miami had.

Today Miami still has the better top end talent, while also having the better depth. That's why they've hoisted the trophy the last two years, and our in prime posistion to do so again. The Bulls are a contender, but I just don't see enough offense on their end to see any more different of a result than what happen in 2011. I still see the Heat employing the same defensive strategy(trapping Rose's PNR), and daring the rest of the guys to beat them.

[poido123]

Just wanted to tell you that both Anthony(27,4 MPG) and Bibby(20,8 MPG) played more minutes in the playoffs than Bogans(19,2 MPG).Also, there is a reason why Anthony was considered the worst offensive player in the leauge by many and Bibby set the record (or was close to one) with his atrocius shooting 28% FG on WIDE OPEN SHOTS. So there is no way Bogans was holding the Bulls back more than those two guys did.

When I say significant, Im talking about the fact that those two players are playing amongst 3 very dynamic players who can cover their weaknesses.

Agree to disagree, Bogans and 'Can't hit shit' Korver hurt the Bulls spacing way more. That's just my opinion.

[poido123]

Nonsense. Joel Anthony was extremely detrimental to the Heat's spacing. He was literally incapable of cleanly catching a dump off pass,while being wide open. And Bibby whom the Heat had brought in for shooting, had possibly the worst postseason for a starter in NBA history. Not to mention he was a liability on defense as well.

Miami in 2011 was basically James, Wade, and Bosh playing inside of a box. The fact that they got to the Finals with the surrounding pieces (or lack there of) that they had was a testament to the raw ability of those three players. Chicago had the better depth top to bottom, but lacked the top end talents that Miami had.

Today Miami still has the better top end talent, while also having the better depth. That's why they've hoisted the trophy the last two years, and our in prime posistion to do so again. The Bulls are a contender, but I just don't see enough offense on their end to see any more different of a result than what happen in 2011. I still see the Heat employing the same defensive strategy(trapping Rose's PNR), and daring the rest of the guys to beat them.

You had Mike Miller killing it from 3. Bibby was of little consequence.

Anthony protected the paint pretty well I thought. Sure, he wasn't great on his handles and couldn't finish to save his life, but he has the luxury of playing with 3 dynamic scorers who masked his weaknesses like I said.

[PJR]

Lol @ Mike Miller killing it from 3. You are doing some serious revising of history my man.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2011_ECF.html

3 of 11. .273%

[bingo123]

You had Mike Miller killing it from 3. Bibby was of little consequence.

Anthony protected the paint pretty well I thought. Sure, he wasn't great on his handles and couldn't finish to save his life, but he has the luxury of playing with 3 dynamic scorers who masked his weaknesses like I said.

I dont know if you are trolling or just dont know shit. Mike Miller was bad in 2011. This is not 2012 we are talking about here. Playing 3 on 5 is what finally destroyed the Heat in the finals that year.

[poido123]

Lol @ Mike Miller killing it from 3. You are doing some serious revising of history my man.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2011_ECF.html

3 of 11. .273%

Bibby and Anthony performances = Watson, Korver, and bogans. That's what I got from that stat sheet. I was surprised to see how much Noah underperformed, I remember reports saying he was injured for much of that series...

Mike Miller had a game where he won it for the Heat, I stand corrected that he actually had a good series, he came to mind for pissing me off one way or another and it was actually that one game he had that hurt us. Think it was game 4 from memory...

[bingo123]

Bibby and Anthony performances = Watson, Korver, and bogans. That's what I got from that stat sheet. I was surprised to see how much Noah underperformed, I remember reports saying he was injured for much of that series...

Mike Miller had a game where he won it for the Heat, I stand corrected that he actually had a good series, he came to mind for pissing me off one way or another and it was actually that one game he had that hurt us. Think it was game 4 from memory...

Yeah he had some monster games:
-G1: 4 pts
-G2: 5 pts
-G3: 6 pts
-G4: 5 pts
-G5: 0 pts

He was just killing it.

[poido123]

Yeah he had some monster games:
-G1: 4 pts
-G2: 5 pts
-G3: 6 pts
-G4: 5 pts
-G5: 0 pts

He was just killing it.


http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/5/25/2189372/miami-heat-chicago-bulls-mike-miller

[NumberSix]

You had Mike Miller killing it from 3. Bibby was of little consequence.

Anthony protected the paint pretty well I thought. Sure, he wasn't great on his handles and couldn't finish to save his life, but he has the luxury of playing with 3 dynamic scorers who masked his weaknesses like I said.
Wrong again pedo.

[poido123]

Wrong again pedo.

You're almost always wrong and you're a notorious troll, that has to be something to be proud of right? :oldlol:

[poido123]

Wrong again pedo.

Game 4 he did?

Not entirely wrong.

[NumberSix]

You're almost always wrong and you're a notorious troll, that has to be something to be proud of right? :oldlol:
Good luck with that pedo.

[Bigsmoke]

Why Heat fans shitting on Joel Anthony so much?

He is like the ONLY center that had the athleticism to keep Rose out of the lanes and he gave the Heat a lot of hustle played that didnt show up on the stats sheet. He just really shitty at finishimg

The heat fans were even chanting MVP for his ass

[scm5]

I view them as legitimate threat to the Heat mainly because of Thibs. The defense Chicago played alone made it a tough series for the Heat despite it only going 5 games. Having Rose back, a healthy Noah and Deng, as well as Jimmy Butler having more experience makes the Bulls even more legitimate.

If the Bulls can upgrade the PF spot with Boozer/Deng as pieces, to say LMA... that would be an incredibly scary team.

Thibs is going to be an all-time great coach.

[livinglegend]

They are only a threat to Heat during regular season. During the playoffs, you can count on Rose and his overrated role players disappearing again.
It s only delusional Bulls fans striking again and making seem like Bulls are a big threat for Miami, for 4th year in a row. :facepalm Some people never learn.

[97 bulls]

They are only a threat to Heat during regular season. During the playoffs, you can count on Rose and his overrated role players disappearing again.
It s only delusional Bulls fans striking again and making seem like Bulls are a big threat for Miami, for 4th year in a row. :facepalm Some people never learn.
Lets be fair. The Bulls were without their best player the last two years. Most of what people say as far asbthe Bulls/Heat rivalry now is based on how close the 2011 series was.

But I would agree that the Bulls need a more firepower. They have only one guy that is capable of scoring on his own. Thats not enough

[FLDFSU]

The Bulls will be eliminated by the Pacers and won't even face the Heat

[Pointguard]

1. The Bulls won a game without much success in running more than two plays.
2. The Bulls had real problems just breaking the trap.
3. They have more experience and run a complex offense.
4. Boozer and Noah will likely not miss two fourth quarters for going into fogs.
5. Miami is a slower in getting to the ball now.
6. Joel Anthony's quick feet helped keep Rose out of the paint.
7. Teams know to go harder at Lebron now.
8. The Bulls have the best wing defenders of all teams.
9. Noah's knowledge and execution is twice as good as it was.
10.Butler is a huge addition as he's the shooter, slasher that they didn't have before.
11.Miami kind of has pressure problems. They act weird sometimes and this is the three peat, so its a three year pressure.
12.It is likely Miami will have faced a very talented team before Chicago.
13.Bulls were a new team that had not experienced much at that time and weren't resourceful when Miami showed the speed that they don't have now.
14.With more better teams, Miami's weaknesses will be exposed before Chicago gets to them.
15.Miami has trouble with teams that have a strong will power and might tire if they face two in a row, which seems like a guarantee (Bulls, Indiana, Nets even my Knicks will be very geared up for them this year). Either way they are guaranteed to deal with two at least one determined team before they get to the Bulls.

Miami still might be the favorite, but its definitely much harder this year.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Miami has so much trouble with the Bulls that they only beat them every year in the playoffs. You Bulls fans really are funny. You guys share the same IQ as your franchise player. :oldlol:

[Go Getter]

^Your life must suck with as much effort you put into this.

I see the Bulls as an OUTSIDE threat but too much has to go right for this team to have a chance. Anything could change with time and injuries but right now the Heat have to be the odds-on favorites to three peat.

[SilkkTheShocker]

^Your life must suck with as much effort you put into this.

I see the Bulls as an OUTSIDE threat but too much has to go right for this team to have a chance. Anything could change with time and injuries but right now the Heat have to be the odds-on favorites to three peat.

The Bulls aren't a threat. Your best player is a mentally weak little b.itch and you start Carlos Boozer at PF. You have no shot of winning. None. The good news is you don't live in Chicago anymore, so you can actually walk down your driveway without the chance of being r.aped or k.illed. Congrats.

[kurple]

:facepalm

[kNicKz]

They're the second best team in the East :confusedshrug:

They're the Heat's biggest playoff threat.

We can talk about 2011 all day, but it's going to be 2014 soon. Currently they match up well with the Heat....

[NumberSix]

They're the second best team in the East :confusedshrug:

They're the Heat's biggest playoff threat.

We can talk about 2011 all day, but it's going to be 2014 soon. Currently they match up well with the Heat....
The 2014 Bulls are as much of a threat as the 2013 Knicks were.

[russwest0]

ITT: Heat fans on suicide watch

[SilkkTheShocker]

ITT: Heat fans on suicide watch

Suicide watch it what OKC fans be on when KD and Westbrick leave that s.hithole

[kNicKz]

The 2014 Bulls are as much of a threat as the 2013 Knicks were.

U win the internet!!!

http://i.imgur.com/Wc0KZ.gif

[DaSeba5]

ITT: Heat fans on suicide watch

3 straight Finals and 2 championships, and 3 championships in the past 7 years. Favorites to win again this year, and a chance to be the first team since the 60s Celtics with 4 Finals appearances in a row. Plus the best player in the world plays on my favorite team. Yah I'm on suicide watch.

[SilkkTheShocker]

3 straight Finals and 2 championships, and 3 championships in the past 7 years. Favorites to win again this year, and a chance to be the first team since the 60s Celtics with 4 Finals appearances in a row. Plus the best player in the world plays on my favorite team. Yah I'm on suicide watch.

Seriously. This is just an awful time right now to be a Heat hater. Hilarious to see some s.hit kicking OKC fan talk trash also.

[NumberSix]

3 straight Finals and 2 championships, and 3 championships in the past 7 years. Favorites to win again this year, and a chance to be the first team since the 60s Celtics with 4 Finals appearances in a row. Plus the best player in the world plays on my favorite team. Yah I'm on suicide watch.
Didn't Boston go to 4 straight finals in the 80's?

[DaSeba5]

Didn't Boston go to 4 straight finals in the 80's?

You're right. I meant 80s.

[Hoopz2332]

Yeah he had some monster games:
-G1: 4 pts
-G2: 5 pts
-G3: 6 pts
-G4: 5 pts
-G5: 0 pts

He was just killing it.

:oldlol:

[NumberSix]

:oldlol:
Yeah, p

[tmacattack33]

ITT: Heat fans on suicide watch

:oldlol:

[LikeABosh]

ITT: Heat fans on suicide watch
Yea, lemme tell you. Just an awful time to be a Heat fan...:oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

The way "fans" of title teams talk you would think all champs win 12 in a row. The Heat lost in 11, won in 12 needing 7 games to beat a Celtic teams that won the full season equal of 48 games, then avoided losing in 6 in 2013 by literally the bounce of a rebound after needing 7 games to beat the Pacers with their first option out for the season.

But come out talking like you are some invincible juggernaut? Talking about 2011? If anything matters less than last year...its 3 years ago.

70 years of idiots acting like they are just gonna breeze by teams they used to beat then getting sent home. But fans keep on doing it.

And some of you are the same fans who did it here before.

Idiot laker fans acting like victory is a given in 2003...and then again in 2004...and 2011...

Idiot Heat fans talking about the overrated Bulls in 2007 before they swept the Heat.

I bet in 1967 there were know nothing Celtic fans talking about how Philly wouldnt beat them...bringing up last year...and the year before that. And the fact that the ywere 9 time champions already.

Then what do you know?

Its as if there is no history to show these people that they are eventually going to be wrong.

Lebron is like 28-29. He might play prime ball for 4-5 more years. He isnt winning 7 rings in a row. But Heat fans(assuming he stays) will no doubt come out and predict that ____ cant win every year before they do.

Might be the Bulls who knock them off. The Bobcats may draft Wiggins and he and Kemba lead an upset in 2016. The Pacers may win the next 3. The Thunder are due.

But no. Heat, heat, heat. "Mentally soft ____ cant win" as if the same wasnt said of wilt, Shaq, Lebron, and a dozen others before they won.

And even funnier is that some of the biggest lebron "fans" were the same people calling me out years ago for saying I didnt think he would reture ringless. Now they are die hard Lebron fans since day one...

Heat lose this year some of you clowns will change your names and come back Bulls fans. Or Thunder fans. Or Nets. Or Rockets. Maybe Clippers.

The Heat are a great team. The Bulls have shown to be a 60 win team with Rose.

Losing before...has nothing to do with now. Not that id expect any of you to stay and eat crow if it happens.

Ive been here from Jay Williams, to Ben Gordon, to Rose, and Butler. We win ill rep the Bulls. We win 20 games ill do the same. We win it all im not gonna act like some other great team isnt a threat either.

And bet your ass if the Heat coaching staff overheard anyone on the team say shit their fans say in here they would have a problem with it. The moment the Heat start to think shit like the Bulls or anyone else cant win...its a wrap. You dont take a team with heart, defense, coaching, and a few scorers lightly.

Im sure actual basketball people know that the mentality of fans like the ones in here is a disease. The Heat players start acting like Heat fans the end is here and Lebron is getting signed and traded to the Clippers for Deandre Jordan, contract filler, and a pick and leaving Miami crying like Cleveland after the Bullet/Pacers/Nets win in 6.

You dont take anyone lightly and expect greatness to just fall in your lap. And im sure the Heat dont. You dont win 2 rings thinking the seas will just part for you. You lose to the Mavs in the finals thinking that.

They better leave that shit to fans who dont know any better.

[derb2k2]

In this thread: Bulls fans delude themselves again into thinking Rose will lead the Bulls through the Heat.

Lebron and Wade gon' tap that ass again.

That game 5 comeback tastes so sweet lmaoo

[nathanjizzle]

In this thread: Bulls fans delude themselves again into thinking Rose will lead the Bulls through the Heat.

Lebron and Wade gon' tap that ass again.

That game 5 comeback tastes so sweet lmaoo

the way they tapped the spurs ass? you mean ray allen :roll:

[livinglegend]

the way they tapped the spurs ass? you mean ray allen :roll:

:biggums: 7 games, more than 336 minutes, almost 700 scored by Heat, and you focus your attention on 1 play, you act as if only 1 play mattered when all of them did:facepalm

EDIT: Rose fan? Everything makes sense now.

[Go Getter]

The Bulls aren't a threat. Your best player is a mentally weak little b.itch and you start Carlos Boozer at PF. You have no shot of winning. None. The good news is you don't live in Chicago anymore, so you can actually walk down your driveway without the chance of being r.aped or k.illed. Congrats.
Your life must suck. I pity you.

[nathanjizzle]

:biggums: 7 games, more than 336 minutes, almost 700 scored by Heat, and you focus your attention on 1 play, you act as if only 1 play mattered when all of them did:facepalm

EDIT: Rose fan? Everything makes sense now.

? sorry but having ray allen bail you out with a miracle 3 isnt lebron and wade "tapping that ass".

[NumberSix]

Your life must suck. I pity you.
I tend to think the person that feels the need to make personal attacks to anonymous online posters probably has more to feel angry about in their personal life.


:cheers:

[Go Getter]

I tend to think the person that feels the need to make personal attacks to anonymous online posters probably has more to feel angry about in their personal life.


:cheers:
I have told you numerous times that I don't care what you think...are you too dense to realize that? Are you too stupid to understand that I don't care for your brand of humor and every attempt that you make to post anything towards me will be met with a swift and firm **** YOU?


Mind you, you missed where he typed the backhanded statement about me getting killed or raped in my driveway.:facepalm

[NumberSix]

I have told you numerous times that I don't care what you think...are you too dense to realize that? Are you too stupid to understand that I don't care for your brand of humor and every attempt that you make to post anything towards me will be met with a swift and firm **** YOU?


Mind you, you missed where he typed the backhanded statement about me getting killed or raped in my driveway.:facepalm
He did no such thing. You're just an angry person who's making excuses after being called out for it. Time to grow up buddy.

[Go Getter]

He did no such thing. You're just an angry person who's making excuses after being called out for it. Time to grow up buddy.


Okay here is when we argue back and forth over semantics. He said I do not have to worry about it as if:

1. I actually lived in that sort of neighborhood
2. It pertained to anything we said
3. He felt that sort of thing is cool for him to say about plausibly happening to someone

I will not address your idiotic bullshit again "buddy".....stfu talking to me if I'm so angry and juvenile whydontya?

[G-train]

It will depend on the team the Bulls have come playoff time.
I don't expect Deng to be a part of it, and I don't think they will get full value for him.
Also Noah tends to get injured and Boozer is a year older and slower.
If Wade is healthy then I can see them not being a high end threat come the playoffs, if Wade isn't then it will be a close series probably.
I don't think Butler will have the influence the Bulls fans think he will. He is a solid player and good defender but I can see the Heat having better preparation for his tactics.

[Go Getter]

It will depend on the team the Bulls have come playoff time.
I don't expect Deng to be a part of it, and I don't think they will get full value for him.
Also Noah tends to get injured and Boozer is a year older and slower.
If Wade is healthy then I can see them not being a high end threat come the playoffs, if Wade isn't then it will be a close series probably.
I don't think Butler will have the influence the Bulls fans think he will. He is a solid player and good defender but I can see the Heat having better preparation for his tactics.
Ehhh, I agree some and then I disagree.

AGREED:
-Butler might not have the impact that some fans feel he will. Although I exect him to be an upgrade over Hughes, Bogans, and Hinrich, I don't know if he can live up to the lofty expectations we've set on him. I hope he can but I'm not sure.

-Health is the major concern. For both teams. Boozer stayed relatively healthy last season but if Rose and Noah aren't healthy we don't have a chance.


DISAGREE:

*I'm pretty sure Deng will be a Bull all season.
*Wade's health will be a factor but Lebron and Bosh's health are much more important...I don't think a healthy Wade at this point in his career makes or breaks the series.
*It isn't about being aware of Butler's tactics it's about having an athletic threat out there that can hit threes and not be a "Bogans." Dunking all on Bosh's face makes me believe that Butler has the confidence needed to compete with the Heat....now if he has the ability to rise in big games is yet to be seen.

[aj1987]

*Wade's health will be a factor but Lebron and Bosh's health are much more important...I don't think a healthy Wade at this point in his career makes or breaks the series.
:facepalm :facepalm

From mid-November to mid-March (53 games), Wade averaged 23/5/5/2/1 on 53%. And he did that on only 16 shots a game. If that's the Wade that we have in the playoffs, Miami is sweeping the Bulls.

Saying that Wade is a non-factor is just stupid.

[Go Getter]

:facepalm :facepalm

From mid-November to mid-March (53 games), Wade averaged 23/5/5/2/1 on 53%. And he did that on only 16 shots a game. If that's the Wade that we have in the playoffs, Miami is sweeping the Bulls.

Saying that Wade is a non-factor is just stupid.
Wade getting off is 23 points a game. Excellent indeed. A force to be reckoned with....but if Lebron is not on his A game (scoring, rebounding, making the whole team look good) and Bosh is out (the big man rotation gets sketchy quickly) I think that would hurt the Heat more than an injured Wade who the Heat have proven they can win with.

Get my drift?

I never said he was a non-factor don't type words for me please and thank you.

[aj1987]

Wade getting off is 23 points a game. Excellent indeed. A force to be reckoned with....but if Lebron is not on his A game (scoring, rebounding, making the whole team look good) and Bosh is out (the big man rotation gets sketchy quickly) I think that would hurt the Heat more than an injured Wade who the Heat have proven they can win with.

Get my drift?

I never said he was a non-factor don't type words for me please and thank you.
Miami won 27 in a row because Wade was firing on all cylinders.
Miami won 66 because Wade was ballin'.
Wade not only brings scoring but rebounding, playmaking, and most importantly, defense. Without Wade, Miami aren't winning in either '12 or '13.

I wouldn't be surprised if Miami goes 16-2 or 16-3 IF Wade's completely healthy.

[G-train]

DISAGREE:

*I'm pretty sure Deng will be a Bull all season.
*Wade's health will be a factor but Lebron and Bosh's health are much more important...I don't think a healthy Wade at this point in his career makes or breaks the series.
*It isn't about being aware of Butler's tactics it's about having an athletic threat out there that can hit threes and not be a "Bogans." Dunking all on Bosh's face makes me believe that Butler has the confidence needed to compete with the Heat....now if he has the ability to rise in big games is yet to be seen.

If Deng is in their future, they are treating him pretty poorly. I actually don't think he is in their future, turning 29 next season and with teams willing to pay him $10m+ a year. I see him becoming 75c to the dollar younger talent before the trade deadline.

I'm taken it as a given that Bosh and Lebron will be reasonably healthy. Wade has never been healthy in the playoffs with this group. When he has been healthy in the regular season they play at an extremely high level, in fact at a level that would see them drop only a handful of games in the postseason.

I see Butler as a role player on offence, who you simply contain within your scheme as you would any 4th option.
Defensively he does match up well with Lebron in certain scenarios (although no where near as well as what some fans think) but those scenarios can be avoided with better preparation.

[Go Getter]

Miami won 27 in a row because Wade was firing on all cylinders.
Miami won 66 because Wade was ballin'.
Wade not only brings scoring but rebounding, playmaking, and most importantly, defense. Without Wade, Miami aren't winning in either '12 or '13.

I wouldn't be surprised is Miami 16-2 or 16-3 IF Wade's completely healthy.
He was slipping and sliding and turning the ball over as well as looking visibly injured as well in some games. I'm not here to argue Wade's greatness because not only do I think Wade is a great (HOF-type) player but I also think he is a great human being--coming back to the 100s and giving a free week-long camp after he won his first championship is something I, nor the kids that he gave free back packs and shoes (three of them my cousins) will ever forget.

But at this point in his career I think we could contain a D. Wade if Lebron and/or Bosh was not 100%. I think they are more impactful and putting in Allen or Battier would compensate pretty well. They have no compensation for losing Lebron or Bosh (maybe if a big steps up....maybe).

Again, I have predicted a [preseason] 3-peat for Miami so stop busting my balls.

[Go Getter]

If Deng is in their future, they are treating him pretty poorly. I actually don't think he is in their future, turning 29 next season and with teams willing to pay him $10m+ a year. I see him becoming 75c to the dollar younger talent before the trade deadline.

I'm taken it as a given that Bosh and Lebron will be reasonably healthy. Wade has never been healthy in the playoffs with this group. When he has been healthy in the regular season they play at an extremely high level, in fact at a level that would see them drop only a handful of games in the postseason.

I see Butler as a role player on offence, who you simply contain within your scheme as you would any 4th option.
Defensively he does match up well with Lebron in certain scenarios (although no where near as well as what some fans think) but those scenarios can be avoided with better preparation.


1. I think Thibs coaches circles around Spols which is a big reason why we can compete...our defensive schemes are solid. Jimmy has to pretty much hit open shots and stick sound d. We're not asking him to be prime D. Wade. * But that dunk on Bosh?:bowdown:

2. I never said he is in our future, I said I don't see us breaking up this team mid season. I can see 14 reasons as to why the Bulls are treating him just fine.

3. If you followed my conversation you would have read that my whole point was that Wade's health is not as important as Bosh's or Lebron's because they have won with Wade being hurt in the post season.

[G-train]

1. I think Thibs coaches circles around Spols which is a big reason why we can compete...our defensive schemes are solid. Jimmy has to pretty much hit open shots and stick sound d. We're not asking him to be prime D. Wade. * But that dunk on Bosh?:bowdown:

2. I never said he is in our future, I said I don't see us breaking up this team mid season. I can see 14 reasons as to why the Bulls are treating him just fine.

3. If you followed my conversation you would have read that my whole point was that Wade's health is not as important as Bosh's or Lebron's because they have won with Wade being hurt in the post season.

1. In reality one dunk is pretty insignificant. Also Thibs hardly coached circles around Spo. Spo has beaten him every series with his own fantastic defensive schemes, great people & culture management and making the offence work with 2 ball dominant wings. I don't mind if people think Thibs is a better coach, but he doesn't coach circles around him.

2. Pretty simplified way to look at it. They have 5 more years of Rose, and Deng is an expirer with good value left for some teams. They refuse to negotiate an extension to a Bulls lifer and have Butler waiting in the wings who IMO is really a 3 man despite what the media spew out. To say he they are treating him fine for simply honoring a current contract that both sides agree to is a stretch. There is more to the relationship than his current contract. They have shown then can operate without him, and I can see them chasing younger value for him that will join Rose. They need another guard that can handle and shoot for starters.

3. Kinda obvious point, and I made the initial point about Wade, and simply expanded the obvious above. Wade is the prone one, but obviously they are weak at the 4/5 if Bosh goes down and Lebron is the best player in the world so obviously he is more important.

[Go Getter]

1. In reality one dunk is pretty insignificant. Also Thibs hardly coached circles around Spo. Spo has beaten him every series with his own fantastic defensive schemes, great people & culture management and making the offence work with 2 ball dominant wings. I don't mind if people think Thibs is a better coach, but he doesn't coach circles around him.

2. Pretty simplified way to look at it. They have 5 more years of Rose, and Deng is an expirer with good value left for some teams. They refuse to negotiate an extension to a Bulls lifer and have Butler waiting in the wings who IMO is really a 3 man despite what the media spew out. To say he they are treating him fine for simply honoring a current contract that both sides agree to is a stretch. There is more to the relationship than his current contract. They have shown then can operate without him, and I can see them chasing younger value for him that will join Rose. They need another guard that can handle and shoot for starters.

3. Kinda obvious point, and I made the initial point about Wade, and simply expanded the obvious above. Wade is the prone one, but obviously they are weak at the 4/5 if Bosh goes down and Lebron is the best player in the world so obviously he is more important.
1. No one said the dunk was a cornerstone of the franchise. Spo has beaten Thibs every time because Spo has the best player in the world on his team. I believe with Thibs controlling them helm in Miami the defense would be even more stout. Spo was kind of gifted his position while Thibs toiled for years....I think Thibs is more proven especially from a defensive scheme aspect. What can he do without the world' most talented players? [we have seen what Thibs ca do] Spo is a kid that lucked up into the job of a lifetime. Imagine what a Larry Brown or Lenny Wilken could do with this roster?

2. Like I said....they gave Deng a fair contract. You can't be mad at them for honoring it and not extending it in a season where everything depends on Rose's knee. From what I have seen from this team and this franchise they'll probably keep Deng to make another playoff run if everything stays constant.

3. Well again, I had to accentuate that "obvious" point because someone put Wade at the forefront like his health is what the Bulls should worry about.