ESPN says Kobe Bryant is the 25th best player in the NBA. worse than Chris Bosh

[kennethgriffin]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9830816/2013-nba-player-rankings-21-25

:bowdown:


if only he could be half the player christopher bosh is. i'd be a happy man

chris bosh averaged 16/6/1 last season

it would be amazing if kobe could top that

:cheers:





















:biggums:

[3peated]

not htat i agree with that. but 16/6/1 as a 3rd/4th option isn't bad lol. ray allen i think took a lot of shots away from him when he came to miami. don't let the numbers be the only thing you look at. imaging kobe playing behind lebron and wade, he would probably do similar numbers, for his position.


that' being said kobe is still a top10 player in the league even tho people hate him.

[scm5]

Bosh on his own team would be putting up 20/10 easily. He's one of the most underrated players in the league.

[Sarcastic]

ESPN has turned into nothing but a troll site, just trying to get clicks. I've given up on them.

There are plenty of other sites that give better sports information.

[aj1987]

The ESPN rankings are ****ing retarded. They had Ricky Rubio in the top 50. They had him over players like Vucevic, Pekovic, Drummond, Asik, Gay, Parsons, Al Jefferson, David Lee, etc.

[Chrono90]

Bosh on his own team would be putting up 20/10 easily. He's one of the most underrated players in the league.

Of course. I think he can even do better. Bosh was a franchise player and MVP candidate before Miami. Wade was finals MVP and franchise player himself. Heats are stacked.

[Shade8780]

It's what they predict for next season...

[scm5]

Bosh on his own team would be putting up 20/10 easily. He's one of the most underrated players in the league.

Just for clarification, I was purely commenting on Bosh's ranking. Bosh at #24 is as bad as Kobe at #25.

[ralph_i_el]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9830816/2013-nba-player-rankings-21-25

:bowdown:


if only he could be half the player christopher bosh is. i'd be a happy man

chris bosh averaged 16/6/1 last season

it would be amazing if kobe could top that

:cheers:


:biggums:


yeah man STATsketball
PPG=WINS
**** DEFENSE AND TEAM PLAY


nbarank is for next year. Kobe will be 35 coming off an achilles injury. come on man

[HurricaneKid]

Thought I would throw this out there:

Kobe Bryant 16-23' - .402
CB3 16-23' -.494 (best in NBA by ANY player)

In a game where defenses increasingly try to push their opposition to shoot long 2s, a C has become the best mid range shooter in the NBA. He gets thumped because he is asked to play out of position for years at a time; But he is a major contributor and a uniquely talented player.

We'll see what Kobe comes back at. Considering the level of D he played last year... Well its going to be tough for him.

[Rose'sACL]

This is because kobe is an old guy coming back from a really bad injury. i would put him around 20th spot though. if he does come back even 90% then he will be in my top 10 but i would have to see it to believe it.
I think he will come back 70-75% of what he was last season.

[NumberSix]

Bosh has grown tremendously as a defensive player in Miami.

[Heavincent]

Typical ESPN agenda driven bullshit.

[NumberSix]

not htat i agree with that. but 16/6/1 as a 3rd/4th option isn't bad lol. ray allen i think took a lot of shots away from him when he came to miami. don't let the numbers be the only thing you look at. imaging kobe playing behind lebron and wade, he would probably do similar numbers, for his position.


that' being said kobe is still a top10 player in the league even tho people hate him.
That's the thing about Kobe's injury. Nobody knows. He could literally be anywhere from top 10 to not mentioned at all.

[Solefade]

They didn't want to make the same mistake last year putting D. Rose in top 10 and Bynum in top 20 when both those guys didn't even play. Don't see what the big deal is with ranking Kobe #25 after an achilles injury?

[Frozen1]

INB4 ESPN put rose, a guy who hasn

[SilkkTheShocker]

Both of them had similar impacts in their Game 7s of the Finals.

[EllEffEll]

It's not totally unfair. Saying that he's coming off of a 'really bad injury' is an understatement. It's one of the hardest injuries to come back to full strength from. Very few ever have.

He is legendary in being able to play through pain and injury, which might explain some of his low percentages at times. But, as of this day in October 2013, he hasn't done anything that can suggest that he will be anything better than mediocre at best. It's simply impossible to know how much his game will be affected. There is a good chance that he won't be anything close to his former self.

I hope he proves them wrong, but if you look at all the factors going against him, it's risky to assume that he can or will.

[avonbarksdale]

jv is ranked higher than derozan lol

[Smoke117]

A guy coming off the injury Kobe is coming off of at his age playing so many years is not going to just be rated high. He'll have to work his way up if he can.

[kennethgriffin]

A guy coming off the injury Kobe is coming off of at his age playing so many years is not going to just be rated high. He'll have to work his way up if he can.


another poster mentioned something that does make allot of sense though

[QUOTE]INB4 ESPN put rose, a guy who hasn

[Rondo]

I'll have whatever ESPN's been smoking.

Wall over Kobe and Rondo lol? Jesus wept.

[Euroleague]

Kobe was not remotely close to 25th best last season.

[Twiens]

I'll have whatever ESPN's been smoking.

Wall over Kobe and Rondo lol? Jesus wept.


Wall over Kobe and Hibbert over Dirk....

ESPN just ****ing around to get more attention :oldlol:

[coin24]

ESPN trolling as usual:oldlol:

[no pun intended]

ESPN trolling as usual:oldlol:
They just didn't want to give him 24, because it was too convenient.

[Trollsmasher]

I am not surprised.

Taking defense into the account, Kobe's impact on the court was actually negative for the last few years. I would rather have about 20 other SGs starting for my team.

And that was before tearing the Achilles at the age of 35.

[pauk]

Whoa... not the biggest fan ever of Kobe's game, but that is just way to brutal...


...inb4 Kobe has a great game and goes: "Not bad for the 25th best player"

[no pun intended]

Whoa... not the biggest fan ever of Kobe's game, but that is just way to brutal...


...inb4 Kobe has a great game and goes: "Not bad for the 25th best player"
Kobe would. LOL.

[chazzy]

I am not surprised.

Taking defense into the account, Kobe's impact on the court was actually negative for the last few years. I would rather have about 20 other SGs starting for my team.

And that was before tearing the Achilles at the age of 35.
How shocking

[longtime lurker]

I am not surprised.

Taking defense into the account, Kobe's impact on the court was actually negative for the last few years. I would rather have about 20 other SGs starting for my team.

And that was before tearing the Achilles at the age of 35.

Of course you would because you're a complete ****ing idiot.

[Dro]

This topic was already made earlier...
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314258

[chazzy]

Thought I would throw this out there:

Kobe Bryant 16-23' - .402
CB3 16-23' -.494 (best in NBA by ANY player)

In a game where defenses increasingly try to push their opposition to shoot long 2s, a C has become the best mid range shooter in the NBA. He gets thumped because he is asked to play out of position for years at a time; But he is a major contributor and a uniquely talented player.

We'll see what Kobe comes back at. Considering the level of D he played last year... Well its going to be tough for him.
You're a robot

[wally_world]

Thought I would throw this out there:

Kobe Bryant 16-23' - .402
CB3 16-23' -.494 (best in NBA by ANY player)

In a game where defenses increasingly try to push their opposition to shoot long 2s, a C has become the best mid range shooter in the NBA. He gets thumped because he is asked to play out of position for years at a time; But he is a major contributor and a uniquely talented player.

We'll see what Kobe comes back at. Considering the level of D he played last year... Well its going to be tough for him.

dafug is cb3? :biggums:

[Eric Cartman]

dafug is cb3? :biggums:

Boshtrich.

[KyleKong]

People need to understand this ranking is for the start of the season.

How can Kobe be in the top 5 if he is not going to playing for at least a month? :confusedshrug:

[chazzy]

People need to understand this ranking is for the start of the season.

How can Kobe be in the top 5 if he is not going to playing for at least a month? :confusedshrug:
Explain this then

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8429260/2012-nba-player-rankings-no-5

[KyleKong]

Explain this then

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8429260/2012-nba-player-rankings-no-5

I stand corrected.

Edit: Nevermind, I am correct. Just watched the TrueHoop TV video on ESPN and they said they changed the format for voting on, "Production this season."

[kennethgriffin]

I stand corrected.

Edit: Nevermind, I am correct. Just watched the TrueHoop TV video on ESPN and they said they changed the format for voting on, "Production this season."

ya well bosh averaged 16/6/1 like i said originally

best case kobe will average 28/6/5

most likely kobe will average 25/5/5

worst case kobe will average 20/5/4 ( and retire after this season )

like stephen a smith said. he already did an interview saying he wouldnt stick around if he cant average 25ppg


that being said.. even worst case scenario.. kobe would out perform chris bosh


and hes also already running without limitations. and now starting his 3 week training program to get back in shape for game 1 of the regular season

its not like he isnt on schedule. he said he could play right now if it was the playoffs. meaning he will 100% be ready for the 1st game.

3 weeks is more than enough time to get his lungs and range of motion up to par


but like i asked before... will someone answer it please


if this were lebron or jordan. and they were 35 years old coming off a torn achilles. would they be ranked 25th that upcoming season after making 1st team all nba, averaging 27ppg on a highly efficient season?

no... because espn is the fox news of the sports world. jordan and lebron are republicans. and kobe is a al qaeda

[scm5]

I can't wait for Kobe's response.

[sportjames23]

Both of them had similar impacts in their Game 7s of the Finals.

And if it wasn't for Bosh (and Ray Allen) there wouldn't have been a Game 7 for the Heat, and your boy would be 1-3 in the Finals. You should be sucking Bosh dick as much as you do Lebron's.

[SilkkTheShocker]

And if it wasn't for Bosh (and Ray Allen) there wouldn't have been a Game 7 for the Heat, and your boy would be 1-3 in the Finals. You should be sucking Bosh dick as much as you do Lebron's.

If's, woulda, coulda, shoulda, etc. Save the loser talk for someone that cares. You understand me, boy? At the end of the day LeBron is a 2013 finals champion and you're still just butthurt little b.itch. :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

If's, woulda, coulda, shoulda, etc. Save the loser talk for someone that cares. You understand me, boy? At the end of the day LeBron is a 2013 finals champion and you're still just butthurt little b.itch. :oldlol:


What's that? I couldn't make out what you were saying with Lebron cawk in your mouth.

[SilkkTheShocker]

What's that? I couldn't make out what you were saying with Lebron cawk in your mouth.

Waving the white flag already, p.ussy? :oldlol:

Run along now, boy.

[memetherapy]

How is Bosh not better? He's efficient as ****, spreads the floor and is one of the most versatile defenders in the league. Kobe's old and coming off an injury and forgot how to play D.

[Psycho]

Haha, I hope Kobe commits suicide because his precious ego is bruised. Fack Kobe, and his raping dick too.

[kennethgriffin]

How is Bosh not better? He's efficient as ****, spreads the floor and is one of the most versatile defenders in the league. Kobe's old and coming off an injury and forgot how to play D.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/kobe-ties-malone-with-11-for-most-1st-team-all-nba-selections/