Kobe Bryant 28 Career Game-Winners; only 2nd to MJ Alltime

[branslowski]

Killer Instinct personified.:applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-BGoQ65zw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[NumberSix]

Raisin bran.

[ispin69]

suicide watch

Can't refute the facts that Kobe doesn't have killer instinct or clutch...so gotta drown out all that noise with old highlight reels. Keep drinking, it will make you forget reality.

[PistonsFan#21]

how many came in the playoffs and finals for each?

[DuMa]

he took 253 attempts to do this. true story

[SilkkTheShocker]

6-24 in the biggest game of his career.

Some killer instinct :applause:

[Hoopz2332]

Kobe isn't Clutch:


Despite all of his clutch fame, Kobe has had his skeptics. Most non-Laker fans hold this opinion. Some of this skepticism is based purely on hate, and other is based off of facts. Recently, ESPN analysts have criticized Kobe's numbers and how they deceive people in articles like this and this. What, exactly, makes Kobe so not clutch?

While Kobe has made a ton of clutch shots over his career, he has missed significantly more. Between 2000 and 2012, Kobe shot by far the highest number of attempts (230) in the final minute of games with a margin of five points or fewer for regular season games. Of those 230 attempts, he only made 80 of them. 80/230 puts him at a mediocre 34.8%, only slightly above the atrocious league average of 33.7%. This means that for every clutch basket that Kobe makes, he has 1.87 clutch misses. If those numbers are considered worthy of being considered one of the clutchest players of all time, Amar'e Stoudemire should be up there, as well. When your clutch numbers are worse than this guy, you probably should join a depression clinic before an all-clutch NBA team.

Regular season games are great and all, but the playoffs are the games that really matter. If you think Kobe's clutch numbers are better there, boy are you wrong. In the final minute of playoff games where the margin is within five points, Kobe has gone 10/31. That's 32.3%, which means that for every one amazing make Kobe has he has 2.09 bricks. Granted this playoff number comes in a small sample size; LeBron James (apparent, notable choke artist) has actually made the same number of clutch shots in the final minute of a playoff game as Kobe between 2000 and 2012 with 11 fewer attempts. That's not even including the plethora of clutch makes LeBron had against the Pacers and Spurs. Kobe's numbers are certainly not indicative of a player who shows up in big games.

As much of an offensive threat as Kobe is, one would expect that the Lakers would have a top-notch offense in crunch time of close games. To see a complete recap of just how bad Kobe and the Lakers' crunch time numbers are, you should check out Henry Abbott's Truehoop article posted a few years ago. One of the most stunning excerpts from this article is:

You'd expect Los Angeles to also have one of the league's best offenses in crunch time, right? Especially with the ball in the hands of the player most suited to those moments.

That's not what happens, though. In the final 24 seconds of close games the Lakers offense regresses horribly, managing just 82 points per 100 possessions...

The Lakers are not among the league leaders in crunch-time offense -- instead, they're just about average, scoring 82.35 points per 100 possessions in a league that averages 80.03. They are, however, among the league leaders in how much worse their offense declines in crunch time.

When Bryant is on the floor in crunch time, Bryant's Lakers are actually outscored by their opponents.

Kobe is said to be the clutchest player of all time, yet the Lakers' offensive numbers beg to differ.


http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/9/9/4683058/kobe-bryant-clutch-stephen-hawking

[bdreason]

How many attempts? :oldlol:

[tmacattack33]

Yeah and without even looking I can tell you he missed a whole more than MJ and anyone else.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I bet the difference between him and number two for attempts is at least 30

[branslowski]

6-24 in the biggest game of his career.

Some killer instinct :applause:

The fact that you think 6-24 Is his biggest playoff moment shows u started watchin NBA in 10':lol

Game 7 Finals, 23pts 15reb (10pts in the 4th, clutch, most on the team), 5th Title and another Finals MVP? :oldlol: I ain't got no worries.

28 Game-winners plus the Video starts off with some playoff clutchness. I feels good.

[aj1987]

Killer Instinct personified.:applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-BGoQ65zw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Doesn't Kobe have more game winners than MJ? I thought that MJ has 33 and Kobe has 37 (including playoffs).

[branslowski]

Doesn't Kobe have more game winners than MJ? I thought that MJ has 33 and Kobe has 37 (including playoffs).

No, that video includes the playoffs, the first 2 gamewinners comes in the playoffs vs Kidds Suns and the Finals vs Pacers.

MJ has 33, Kobe has 28.

[branslowski]

how many came in the playoffs and finals for each?

I think about 6 of them.

[Jameerthefear]

InsideKobeandLebron

[kenny817]

How many for Dirk, Melo, and Wade?

[9erempiree]

The OP is wrong.

He actually has more than MJ.

[Jameerthefear]

Kobe is cuter than MJ

[joeyjoejoe]

The mythological clutchbe, can anyone post a top 20 active players NBA clutch makes

[branslowski]

The OP is wrong.

He actually has more than MJ.

Show me.

[TheReal Kendall]

Kobe is cuter than MJ

Is this Jameer's sister typing?

MJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lebron >>>>>>> Kobe


That clip still doesn't change anything.

I would take MJ and Melo over Kobe in a game winning or tying situation

[branslowski]

Is this Jameer's sister typing?

MJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lebron >>>>>>> Kobe


That clip still doesn't change anything.

I would take MJ and Melo over Kobe in a game winning or tying situation

Well, I understand if you prefer MJ, he does have more....Melos nice in the clutch, if you prefer him, then cool I guess, although most would take Kobe. Including me over Melo easily.

[comerb]

Killer Instinct personified.:applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-BGoQ65zw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I feel like this was a setup to the real statistic that shows how mediocre Kobe is at finishing and how his "killer instinct" is quantity over quality.

Certainly a real Kobe fan would have known better than to bring up this statistic.

[Round Mound]

Kobe isn't Clutch:




http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/9/9/4683058/kobe-bryant-clutch-stephen-hawking

This :applause:

[plowking]

The fact that you think 6-24 Is his biggest playoff moment shows u started watchin NBA in 10':lol

Game 7 Finals, 23pts 15reb (10pts in the 4th, clutch, most on the team), 5th Title and another Finals MVP? :oldlol: I ain't got no worries.

28 Game-winners plus the Video starts off with some playoff clutchness. I feels good.

Seriously though... Do you actually think that was even an average performance? It was a terrible one if you're going to be honest.

If they had lost, it would have been a big talking point, and that's how you know it was a below average performance.

[branslowski]

I feel like this was a setup to the real statistic that shows how mediocre Kobe is at finishing and how his "killer instinct" is quantity over quality.

Certainly a real Kobe fan would have known better than to bring up this statistic.

Or, idk, try to follow me here because this might be some mind blowing stuff.....I created this thread because...wait forrr itttt......










Cause Kobe's my fav player and I wanted to Share his gamewinning shots vid with the forum and those who haven't seen it.:eek:

[Trollsmasher]

The Kobetards trying to maintain the illusion of Kobe's killer instinct:roll:

[Odinn]

Cause Kobe's my fav player and I wanted to Share his gamewinning shots vid with the forum and those who haven't seen it.:eek:
And there wasn't enough threads or videos about it. Right?:oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XumuVWQ7um0
This one reflects the ego Kobe had about being clutch, being the hero.:bowdown:

[ripthekik]

Seriously though... Do you actually think that was even an average performance? It was a terrible one if you're going to be honest.

If they had lost, it would have been a big talking point, and that's how you know it was a below average performance.
If they had lost... yeah.. tell me about how people will say about Lebron's final performance if they had lost it there in game 6. Tell me. I dare you.

[plowking]

If they had lost... yeah.. tell me about how people will say about Lebron's final performance if they had lost it there in game 6. Tell me. I dare you.

Well they wouldn't question his game 6 performance. That's for sure.

[I<3NBA]

how many came in the playoffs and finals for each?
yeah. this is also the first thing that came to my mind. can't remember Kobe hitting a game winner in a playoff game. all i remember are regular season game winners.

the myth of his being clutch came in one season wherein he hit a bunch of game winners in the regular season.

[ripthekik]

Well they wouldn't question his game 6 performance. That's for sure.
Really? He was 2011 mode in the first half. 4th quarter he scored a bunch, but the last 2 minutes he had turnovers and bricked a couple of shots, including the shot that bounced to Ray for the win. So imagine if he lost on that note?

[pegasus]

Kobe:bowdown:

[Budadiiii]

Clutch GOD :applause:

[jlip]

I've always wondered about this assumption that MJ supposedly has the most game winners all time. Has anyone actually counted all the game winners of other renowned clutch shooters such as Sam Jones, Jerry West, Kareem, Bird, etc.?

[branslowski]

yeah. this is also the first thing that came to my mind. can't remember Kobe hitting a game winner in a playoff game. all i remember are regular season game winners.

the myth of his being clutch came in one season wherein he hit a bunch of game winners in the regular season.

Spoken like a 2010' brand new NBA fan.:facepalm

Also shows ur ignorance of commenting in a thread inwhich you didn't even watch the video. His first 2 gamewinners takes place in the playoffs and Finals. 1st one vs Jason Kidd and the Suns, the 2nd coming against the Pacers in the Finals.