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LosBulls
10-17-2013, 03:07 AM
People don't realize JUST HOW STACKED the Warriors are from 1 to 12.

Warriors have a Top 5 PG in the league who also happens to be the best shooter hands down in the league. (Curry)
They also have a dominant inside presence in Bogut. Do people forget that a couple years ago the best C next to Dwight was Bogut? Do people forget this guy is a legit 7 feet and 280 pounds? If the Rockets meet with the Warriors in the playoffs Bogut will be a nightmare for them because he will drain Dwight's energy just battling for position. God forbid Steph Curry goes ham in the playoffs and demands a double team.

Then we have David Lee. Any Knicks fans here can tell you this guy is the real deal. Automatic double double and hes been a 20/10 guy all his career. This guy was Kevin Love before Kevin Love. Top 5 PF next season.

Do you guys remember last year's playoffs how the Spurs were expected to sweep the Warriors in the playoffs? Then it turns out the Warriors gave them a run for their money?

http://youtu.be/XhIwz3npZo8

Now it seems that after almost making the Finals last year with a VERY YOUNG team, they have added a secret weapon.

THIS GUY

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/16248875/071013_iguodala_300.0_standard_352.0.jpg
Andre Iguodala is an allstar. People have expected him to be a superstar player all of his career, but thats not him. Iggy is a Scottie Pippen type player, not a Jordan.

He will defend the other team's best players, he can give you 20+ every night, hit big shots, rebound/block/EVERYTHING, but don't expect him to carry a team.

Which is why I think he is the secret weapon for the Warriors. Iggy will for once in is career not be the 1st option (without counting the AI Sixers in his younger days). He will have a very solid team around him and a legit big man.

He averaged for the Nuggets in the playoffs 18 PTS/8 REB/5 AST/2 STL
Now whos stats does that remind you of? Scottie Pippen.

But i'm not done yet, theres also a guy who will blossom in to a future allstar backing him up.
His name is Harrison Barnes.

Pair these guys up with a ton of shooters off the bench and you have the best team in the West and probably in the NBA.
Shooters which they have. Klay Thompson and Seth Curry to name a couple.

So there you go. Expect to see a fresh Warriors team Vs a beat up Heat, Bulls, Knicks, or Nets.

KyleKong
10-17-2013, 03:10 AM
I like Iggy Thump, but he will not be the reason why the Warriors make the finals.

The reason why the Warriors will not make the Finals is this:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2278905/sloanshooting.png

LosBulls
10-17-2013, 03:14 AM
I like Iggy Thump, but he will not be the reason why the Warriors make the finals.

The reason why the Warriors will not make the Finals is this:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2278905/sloanshooting.png
This is an unfair comparison.

David Lee is not a defensive specialist like Sanders is. They don't even play the same position, Lee plays PF and Sanders is a Center.

Another thing is that Lee was not brought in to the Warriors to bring in defense, he is an offensive player and he is one of the top rebounders in the league. The Defensive specialists in the starting lineup are Bogut and Iggy.

Eric Cartman
10-17-2013, 03:16 AM
I like Iggy Thump, but he will not be the reason why the Warriors make the finals.

The reason why the Warriors will not make the Finals is this:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2278905/sloanshooting.png

Even without Lee provided that everyone else is healthy they are a contender in the West.

KyleKong
10-17-2013, 03:17 AM
This is an unfair comparison.

David Lee is not a defensive specialist like Sanders is. They don't even play the same position, Lee plays PF and Sanders is a Center.

Another thing is that Lee was not brought in to the Warriors to bring in defense, he is an offensive player and he is one of the top rebounders in the league. The Defensive specialists in the starting lineup are Bogut and Iggy.

The point I'm making is David Lee is such a defensive liability that it is going to cost them a lot of points in games.

Sure, if Bogut actually can stay healthy, him and Iggy will be a nice defensive combo. Not good enough to stop teams like OKC, Houston, and Clippers though.

plowking
10-17-2013, 03:20 AM
So Iggy will give you 20+ a night despite never having averaged 20ppg in his career?

Interesting.

He seriously has to be one of the most overrated players in the league. Hes an inferior version of what AK47 used to be. His defense is overrated to begin with.

LosBulls
10-17-2013, 03:20 AM
The point I'm making is David Lee is such a defensive liability that it is going to cost them a lot of points in games.

Sure, if Bogut actually can stay healthy, him and Iggy will be a nice defensive combo. Not good enough to stop teams like OKC, Houston, and Clippers though.
Boozer is a defensive liability to the Bulls, doesn't make us any less of a good team.

The way I look at it, is that the paint is Bogut's territory. Anybody who gets past their man has to meet Bogut in the paint.

But yeah, injuries are a big issues for this team but i'm speaking if they can stay healthy.

LosBulls
10-17-2013, 03:23 AM
So Iggy will give you 20+ a night despite never having averaged 20ppg in his career?

Interesting.

He seriously has to be one of the most overrated players in the league. Hes an inferior version of what AK47 used to be. His defense is overrated to begin with.
People expect too much of him. And the way i meant it is not that he WILL give you 20+ a night, but he CAN give you 20+ a night. Hes a complimentary player and if any of the other guys is off he will step up and give you those extra points.

senelcoolidge
10-17-2013, 03:29 AM
I think the Warriors will disappoint. It's funny how people over rate teams and players. It's almost like a fad.

Bobcats2013
10-17-2013, 03:38 AM
Health. That's it, if they stay healthy they're going to the finals.

KyleKong
10-17-2013, 03:40 AM
Boozer is a defensive liability to the Bulls, doesn't make us any less of a good team.

That's a good point, and how many Finals have this Bulls team been to?

I'm not saying Golden State is a bad team, just not a Championship caliber team.

livingby3's
10-17-2013, 04:21 AM
Not unless the Heat and Warriors exchange their starting SFs

Nero Tulip
10-17-2013, 04:45 AM
I liked last year's team better actually. They traded depth and shooting for a guy who will be great against OKC and Miami, but will be useless against the Spurs or Memphis. They have less firepower now, and with a defensive liability like Lee playing they'll need more.

All Net
10-17-2013, 04:48 AM
Huh? Golden State are very good but are they even top 5 West team right now?

Jameerthefear
10-17-2013, 04:55 AM
Huh? Golden State are very good but are they even top 5 West team right now?
Maybe. I hope op is trolling.

QuebecBaller
10-17-2013, 05:00 AM
Then we have David Lee. Any Knicks fans here can tell you this guy is the real deal. Automatic double double and hes been a 20/10 guy all his career. This guy was Kevin Love before Kevin Love. Top 5 PF next season.


20/10 all his career, except in

05-06
06-07
07-08
08-09
10-11
11-12
12-13

So, all his career means just in 2009-2010
:hammerhead:

Eric Cartman
10-17-2013, 05:04 AM
20/10 all his career, except in

05-06
06-07
07-08
08-09
10-11
11-12
12-13

So, all his career means just in 2009-2010
:hammerhead:

http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/images/ether.jpg

poido123
10-17-2013, 09:13 AM
So Iggy will give you 20+ a night despite never having averaged 20ppg in his career?

Interesting.

He seriously has to be one of the most overrated players in the league. Hes an inferior version of what AK47 used to be. His defense is overrated to begin with.

Iggy's man defense shits all over Lebrons, just sayin :confusedshrug: He is not an overrated defender, and I don't see many people overrating him as such.

In this game here, you can see how good his man defense is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8wb5UmaTQ

This shows me that you are clueless in evaluating players outside of your team Plowking :facepalm

Trollsmasher
10-17-2013, 09:38 AM
Iggy's man defense shits all over Lebrons, just sayin :confusedshrug: He is not an overrated defender, and I don't see many people overrating him as such.

In this game here, you can see how good his man defense is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8wb5UmaTQ

This shows me that you are clueless in evaluating players outside of your team Plowking :facepalm
So a great man defense now consists of making Greivis Vasquez to pass the ball to a teammate five times a game?:biggums:

No wonder you are completly clueless in evaluating basketball players:facepalm

poido123
10-17-2013, 09:58 AM
So a great man defense now consists of making Greivis Vasquez to pass the ball to a teammate five times a game?:biggums:

No wonder you are completly clueless in evaluating basketball players:facepalm

Iggy has to guard the best player on every team.

I showed a game where he demonstates elite man defense.

What is your problem?

plowking
10-17-2013, 10:05 AM
Iggy has to guard the best player on every team.

I showed a game where he demonstates elite man defense.

What is your problem?

I really don't want to talk to you about defense, especially particular types of defenses, since you don't know what the difference is.
Or, you just don't like to distinguish between it when its Lebron.

No offense, but you're not very good at talking about basketball.

LosBulls
10-17-2013, 10:42 AM
20/10 all his career, except in

05-06
06-07
07-08
08-09
10-11
11-12
12-13

So, all his career means just in 2009-2010
:hammerhead:

08-09 - 16/11
09-10 - 20/11
10-11 - 16.5/9.8
11-12 - 20/9.6
12-13 - 18.5/11.2


5 out of his 8 seasons total in the NBA have been either ABOVE 20/10 or in the 20/10 range.

Don't be a hater.

avonbarksdale
10-17-2013, 10:57 AM
16/11 is 20/10 now?

bdreason
10-17-2013, 03:51 PM
I liked last year's team better actually. They traded depth and shooting for a guy who will be great against OKC and Miami, but will be useless against the Spurs or Memphis. They have less firepower now, and with a defensive liability like Lee playing they'll need more.


Warriors are far from the favorite, but we're better than last year.

People underestimate the acquisitions of Speights and Douglas. As well as the improved health of Bogut. We aren't going to miss Landry or Jack that much... and we added Iggy, who is looking like he's a perfect fit for the team.

DuMa
10-17-2013, 03:54 PM
Curry and Bogut are the two most impactful players on that squad. especially now that Jack is gone and Ezeli is gonna miss time for a while. So the Dubs are relying on 2 very injury prone players to carry them. Dont get me wrong, i think the Warriors can become contenders this season but its an awful lot riding on a couple of injury prone players.

DukeDelonte13
10-17-2013, 04:00 PM
Jack came through bigtime for the dubs a number of times. He was a key piece in last year's run IMO.

el gringos
10-17-2013, 07:49 PM
Jack came through bigtime for the dubs a number of times. He was a key piece in last year's run IMO.
Jack leaving isn't big- it's huge. And to expect toney Douglas to be a rotation player on a "contender" is ?????

Fudge
10-17-2013, 08:06 PM
LMAO LosRetard. Clown just wants to get this bumped.

SacJB Shady
10-17-2013, 11:21 PM
The Warriors are absolutely better than Miami and even SA this year by adding Iggy. Look at how much more complete the Warriors are than the Thunder.

SacJB Shady
10-17-2013, 11:24 PM
Jack came through bigtime for the dubs a number of times. He was a key piece in last year's run IMO.


He won them 2 games in the playoffs and costed them 2 games, so it's a mute point.

All Net
10-18-2013, 01:11 AM
Jack was key as an extra ball handler.. He was bigger in playoffs than regular season.

Inferno
10-18-2013, 01:12 AM
Jack was key as an extra ball handler.. He was bigger in playoffs than regular season.

We got another ball handler in Iguodala. :confusedshrug:

bdreason
10-18-2013, 03:09 AM
We got another ball handler in Iguodala. :confusedshrug:


Yep, and we're running the same exact sets with Iggy playing point (with Curry and Thompson running off screens). The only difference is we aren't forced to play small ball... and Iggy is actually a better passer than Jack.

Look, I'm not trying to disrespect Jack. He hit some big shots for us last season... but there is no reason for me to believe that we can't have other players step up and make big shots for us instead.

All Net
10-18-2013, 03:12 AM
We got another ball handler in Iguodala. :confusedshrug:
Oh I agree, that's why iggy was a great addition.

Cali Syndicate
10-18-2013, 04:08 AM
Jack and Landry were huge for us last season. hUGE. But we barely had bogut for one third the season. And he wasn't even remotely healthy. Lee, bogut and speights >> lee, Landry and ezeli/green. And while jack was a solid solid solid backup point, iggy is a huge upgrade over him in all regards.

Really, if bogut can stay healthy and play 30 solid mpg, it'll definitely be an interesting season. Contender? I'll wait 20 30 games in before I make any claim.

kurple
10-18-2013, 06:11 AM
We got another ball handler in Iguodala. :confusedshrug:
Lol

Iggy can be a playmaker a couple times a game. But he's no ballhandler or backup PG

inclinerator
10-18-2013, 06:21 AM
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/332/839/3f0.jpg

OJ SIMPSON 2.0
10-18-2013, 07:01 AM
Andre Igoudala sucks. He's not an all star and is coming off of another terrible season. The Warriors were a better team last season, I'd be suprised if they make it past the 6th seed.

SacJB Shady
10-18-2013, 07:49 AM
Nope. iggy won them 57 games & they will win far less without him. The Warriors are definitely the best team this year.

Last year their 3 best players were hurt, yet they were inches away in the last 2 games against the Spurs. The Warriors actually had a higher ceiling than SA. If Bogut was healthy, they would have beat SA in 6.