Lebron: "I wanna play one NFL game before it's over."

[Jameerthefear]

https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/391408798411554816

[Real Men Wear Green]

If it happened it would be a gimmick for tickets and attention because he'd never quit basketball to give football the focus needed to be a legit NFL player.

[Kblaze8855]

Lebron even past his prime could be a decent redzone target. Not many are gonna jump with him on a fade route. Many former basketball players end up outstanding tight ends just off being athletic with a frame that allows them to add muscle. And most were not WRs who had offers to play for top D1 programs. Urban Meyer offered him a scholarship at 16. Not some urban legend. Meyer said so himself.

And there are current NFL players and ex coaches who have said he could step right into the league. Dez Bryant believes he would be a beast. So its not like....something only people not involved in the game believe could happen.

That said....you cant just go from NBA to NFL and play for real. He could take a while and be a potential asset. Anyone 6'7'' 260+ with his speed and hops is at LEAST gonna draw the attention of the defense if hes put in around the goal line across from a DB.

Be nice to see. Might even pull a Brock Lesnar and turn a stunt into real success but I doubt it. Brock had a better background as a real wrestler than Bron as a football player. But it would be nice for a team like the Jaguars who just needs to sell tickets.

But if they were gonna go that route they would already have signed Tebow.

[ALBballer]

He could play TE. There are plenty of exampels of TE that have limited football backgrounds that have played well. Antonio Gates, Julius Thomas...

[jzek]

He can play strong safety no probs with his speed + build. Any other position and he'd be a liability.

[PJR]

I watched Jimmy Graham at Miami go from a scrub power forward to a productive starting tight end(after not playing football since his freshman year in HS). And now he's the best and most explosive playmaker at the position in the NFL.

There's no question in my mind LeBron could make the transition. He's as freak of an athlete as we've every seen in any sport. Right there with Bo Jackson.

[3peated]

pretty sure he could play for any florida football team lol

[sportjames23]

I watched Jimmy Graham at Miami go from a scrub power forward to a productive starting tight end(after not playing football since his freshman year in HS). And now he's the best and most explosive playmaker at the position in the NFL.

There's no question in my mind LeBron could make the transition. He's as freak of an athlete as we've every seen in any sport. Right there with Bo Jackson.


:biggums: :coleman: :crazysam:

[DukeDelonte13]

he (and his cousin as a bonus) were offered full rides to Miami of Ohio his freshman year of high school.

He was literally one of the best H.S. football players EVER in the state of Ohio.

No doubt in my mind he would make it to the NFL and be successful in it.

[PJR]

:biggums: :coleman: :crazysam:

Shut up. LeBron is definitely one of the greatest pure athletes. This is not even debatable.

[CelticBaller]

sooner than later hopefully

[MP.Trey]

Lebron even past his prime could be a decent redzone target. Not many are gonna jump with him on a fade route. Many former basketball players end up outstanding tight ends just off being athletic with a frame that allows them to add muscle. And most were not WRs who had offers to play for top D1 programs. Urban Meyer offered him a scholarship at 16. Not some urban legend. Meyer said it himself.

So if he's making it up, it would be an "Urban legend", wouldn't it? :D

[Eric Cartman]

So if he's making it up, it would be an "Urban legend", wouldn't it? :D

You clever devil.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_makguvDV5K1qbvovho1_500.gif

[sportjames23]

Shut up. LeBron is definitely one of the greatest pure athletes. This is not even debatable.

Sit your ass down.

[Jameerthefear]

Sit your ass down.
but he's right...

[PJR]

but he's right...

Yea. Clown can't even make a proper retort. Acting like I was making some outrageous claim.

[Budadiiii]

"I'm gonna bring a championship to Cleveland"
"It's gonna be easy"
"I'm competing in the dunk contest"
"I want to be the greatest of all time"

:rolleyes:

This will certainly happen...

:rolleyes:

[Le Shaqtus]

I feel like LeBron is too soft for the NFL...

[christian1923]

Just one? Lol he thinks he can just walk out there put a jersey on and play one game? That means they'll have to cut another player to make room for James.

I'd love to him try and get off a jam though. That would be must watch TV

[The Iron Fist]

I watched Jimmy Graham at Miami go from a scrub power forward to a productive starting tight end(after not playing football since his freshman year in HS). And now he's the best and most explosive playmaker at the position in the NFL.

There's no question in my mind LeBron could make the transition. He's as freak of an athlete as we've every seen in any sport. Right there with Bo Jackson.
:facepalm

Not even close.

[inclinerator]

:facepalm

Not even close.
he's definitely one of the greatest athletes of all time, to say not even close is dead wrong

[Scholar]

Even though I'm sure he isn't going anywhere for a long time, I still feel the need to post this:
If LeBron went to the NFL, I'd be greatly disappointed. He's a true joy to watch on the NBA courts, so as a basketball fan, I feel we'd miss out on some incredible memories with his absence.

[red1]

after he gets tackled a few times he will be glad that he chose to play basketball instead

[PJR]

:facepalm

Not even close.

Another moron who can't even provide an actual retort.

These are the same dudes who will turn around and say LeBron isn't a legitimately 'skilled' basketball player(which is bullshit in itself), and often insinuate that the main reason he dominates is due to his physical attributes. Well, what are we talking about here then?



Mark Murphy hasn't merely witnessed the finest receivers of his generation. He has experienced them.

Murphy's 11-year career at strong safety was good enough to get him into the Green Bay Packers' Hall of Fame. He has covered, tackled and occasionally been scorched by legends.

On the subject of greatness, he knows what he's talking about.

"I've been around a lot of great receivers," Murphy said. "I tell people that I rate my top receivers -- coaching, playing or watching -- as James Lofton, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent and LeBron James."



From my perspective, the best athletes in the world play in the NBA," University of Akron football coach J.D. Brookhart said. "Look at what Gates did. He was a pretty good basketball player athletically, but LeBron's world class."


Brookhart is known as one of the country's best receivers coaches. His previous gig was at the University of Pittsburgh, where he worked with Larry Fitzgerald and Antonio Bryant. One of his first roster decisions at Akron was switching another future NFLer, Domenik Hixon, from safety to receiver.

"It's not very hard to tell at all how good of a football player LeBron would be," Brookhart said. "Had he pursued it, I think he'd be an All-Pro receiver.





"The physical tools were overwhelming," Scouts Inc. analyst Matt Williamson said. Williamson was a recruiter for Pitt and followed Brookhart to Akron as football operations director before joining the Cleveland Browns' scouting department. "He really stood out. He made you think 'Wow.' But you don't get too enamored because you know he's the best basketball player in the world."

Pees took a similar approach with James. It was foolish to waste precious recruiting time on an emerging basketball enterprise.

"If he went to Akron, their football program would have been top 20," said St. Vincent-St. Mary grad Chip Hilling, who saw almost all of James' games. Hilling played linebacker at Indiana University for head coaches Lee Corso, Sam Wyche and Bill Mallory. "He really was an incredible football player.

"With LeBron's athleticism, I could see him as a tight end, H-back, receiver. LeBron could wreak havoc as an outside linebacker, edge pass rusher. He's a freak."



"I think LeBron could come in and do better than Antonio Gates," New England Patriots receiver Randy Moss said. "LeBron James is the athlete that comes around every so often.

"He's at a point in his career where the things that he does are something we haven't seen before. … It's just very rare for athletes to be able to do the things that he does to entertain and wow us night in and night out."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4194437

[Heavincent]

Just like he was going to be in the dunk contest a few years ago?

Not hating, but Lebron talks out of his ass sometimes.

[KyrieTheFuture]

You guys seem unable to draw a distinction between "want" and "will". He may want to, but he probably doesn't actually plan on doing it.

[russwest0]

Russell Westbrook in the NFL >>>>>>>>> LeBron.

Put Russell Westbrook at CB and it'd be unfair. He'd be stepping in as the tallest, fastest, and strongest CB in the league

[Heavincent]

Also, you guys know there's more to being an NFL receiver than just being big and fast, right?

[KyrieTheFuture]

Also, you guys know there's more to being an NFL receiver than just being big and fast, right?

Yes, but he was good as **** in highschool at football.

[funnystuff]

:facepalm

Not even close.
http://i.qkme.me/3q05gc.jpg

[PJR]

Also, you guys know there's more to being an NFL receiver than just being big and fast, right?

http://images.wikia.com/brutallegend/images/8/8c/You_Don't_Say.jpg

[Heavincent]

Yes, but he was good as **** in highschool at football.

I don't doubt that. It's just high school though.

On a related note, Nate Robinson would make for a great RB. Don't know why he chose basketball over football.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Sit your ass down.

Pipe down boy and shine my shoes

[D.J.]

Yes, but he was good as **** in highschool at football.


There's a huge difference just between NCAA and high school. And a huge difference between college and the pros. Football isn't basketball and football isn't his first sport, basketball is.

[Kblaze8855]

Also, you guys know there's more to being an NFL receiver than just being big and fast, right?


You think the multiple NFL players, coaches, scouts, and so on who think he could do it....dont know that?

What...you think all pro recievers dont know their own position?

There isnt anyone who watched him who seems to think he couldnt do it.

This isnt one of those "Kids on the internet" things not backed up by people who know better.

This is....the people who would be his peers being more sure about it than fans.

Too many basketball players half as gifted far as physical tools turn into great football players to dismiss one of the top athletes of all time who was also offered a free ride to multiple D1 schools before he was even a junior.

He was a legit D1 player. He had only to say "Ok" and I suppose not ruin his amateur status by having a hummer at 17 and hes playing national tv college football. SOMEONE would draft him.

He wwas 6'7'' 242 in the 04 olympics. He was 250 or so by the age he would have been to come out in the NFL draft.

A guy that huge and athletic would get drafted just in case. Look around the league. Guysl ike Thomas on the Broncos...just basketball players. No football. Switch over in 2010 get drafted in 2011. Hes 3 inches shorter, 30 pounds lighter, and no faster than Lebron. And he didnt have future HOF coaches swooning and offering him a free ride in the 10th grade.

Lebron barring injury would have been an NFL player had he gone that route. Too many guys not nearly as talented get too many shots to assume a guy who dwarfs Megatron, runs like hes 6'1'', jumps 36+ inches, and was an all state WR over seniors when he was 16 wouldnt make it.

He would have a guy like Manning on his ass about blocking. He would struggle with the plays and all that he would have to remember to just drop into the league and be dominant.

Put him in man coverage vs.....some guy and tell him to run a route without options? There is almost nobody on earth hes not either much bigger or much more athletic than.

He would be fine.

Hed be a liability due to the mental side trying to part time it and letting his team down picking up blocks if hes a TE. As a "Go get it" player....hes fine on day one. Not elite. But he wouldnt stand out as awful. And I think a lot of players would disagree with me about him not being elite.

There is a HOF wr quoted in this topic who thinks he would have been better than Gates....

[russwest0]

Yes, but he was good as **** in highschool at football.

Allen Iverson would be GOAT NFL QB

[russwest0]

My point still stands.

Russell Westbrook in the NFL >>>>>>>>> LeBron.

Put Russell Westbrook at CB and it'd be unfair. He'd be stepping in as the tallest, fastest, and strongest CB in the league

[funnystuff]

My point still stands.

Russell Westbrook in the NFL >>>>>>>>> LeBron.

Put Russell Westbrook at CB and it'd be unfair. He'd be stepping in as the tallest, fastest, and strongest CB in the league
I understand that you're trolling but RW would get destroyed in the NFL. His little bitch boy attitude would get him embarrassed.

[D.J.]

I understand that you're trolling but RW would get destroyed in the NFL. His little bitch boy attitude would get him embarrassed.


Same with Bron. He's no better.

[Heavincent]

You think the multiple NFL players, coaches, scouts, and so on who think he could do it....dont know that?

What...you think all pro recievers dont know their own position?

There isnt anyone who watched him who seems to think he couldnt do it.

This isnt one of those "Kids on the internet" things not backed up by people who know better.

This is....the people who would be his peers being more sure about it than fans.

Too many basketball players half as gifted far as physical tools turn into great football players to dismiss one of the top athletes of all time who was also offered a free ride to multiple D1 schools before he was even a junior.

He was a legit D1 player. He had only to say "Ok" and I suppose not ruin his amateur status by having a hummer at 17 and hes playing national tv college football. SOMEONE would draft him.

He wwas 6'7'' 242 in the 04 olympics. He was 250 or so by the age he would have been to come out in the NFL draft.

A guy that huge and athletic would get drafted just in case. Look around the league. Guysl ike Thomas on the Broncos...just basketball players. No football. Switch over in 2010 get drafted in 2011. Hes 3 inches shorter, 30 pounds lighter, and no faster than Lebron. And he didnt have future HOF coaches swooning and offering him a free ride in the 10th grade.

Lebron barring injury would have been an NFL player had he gone that route. Too many guys not nearly as talented get too many shots to assume a guy who dwarfs Megatron, runs like hes 6'1'', jumps 36+ inches, and was an all state WR over seniors when he was 16 wouldnt make it.

Did I say he wouldn't be a good NFL receiver?

[D.J.]

LeBron's talent is nice, but that doesn't mean he can take a hit. Taking a hit from a 5'9" 180 kid in HS isn't he same a taking that same hit from a 6'3" 250 college player or NFL'er who's much more muscular and stronger.

[aj1987]

Same with Bron. He's no better.
The difference is Lebron actually played football and he was really good at it.

[D.J.]

The difference is Lebron actually played football and he was really good at it.


High school =/= NCAA

NCAA =/= NFL


Same goes for basketball. Look how many athletic kids did well in high school, securing scholarships and then were only average-slightly above average in college. Given how much LeBron's whines and flops playing basketball, I'm not inclined to believe he could take a hit from a 6'3" 250 lb NFL'er.

[russwest0]

The difference is Lebron actually played football and he was really good at it.

So did Allen Iverson.

What is your point.

LeBron is too bitchmade to play in the NFL. This is the man that cried about KIRK HINRICH playing him physical. :cry: :lol :lol :lol

[Droid101]

So did Allen Iverson.

What is your point.

LeBron is too bitchmade to play in the NFL. This is the man that cried about KIRK HINRICH playing him physical. :cry: :lol :lol :lol
Watch your mouth.
http://iameviltebow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/7KirkHinrich-e1373830941713.jpg

[Trollsmasher]

So did Allen Iverson.

What is your point.

LeBron is too bitchmade to play in the NFL. This is the man that cried about KIRK HINRICH playing him physical. :cry: :lol :lol :lol
There are rules of basketball and then there are rules of football, dummy.

[Kblaze8855]

Given how much LeBron's whines and flops playing basketball, I'm not inclined to believe he could take a hit from a 6'3" 250 lb NFL'er.

Big hits are common in that they happen every game....but there are guys who go whole seasons without taking a big hit. Lebron wouldnt be Wes Welker darting around the middle for 120 catches and 140 hits a season. The guys bringing him down would be the size of John Lucas:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2381729/jliii.gif

Actually smaller. Hes 6'0'' or a tad above. Of the 170 NFL corners in 2012....53 were six feet tall.

53.

And Lebron makes him look like a middle schooler. Lebron literally leaps over guys the size of NFL corners:

http://sketchcardsaloon.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lebron-james-jumps-over-john-lucas-and-dunks.jpg

The guys who could really light him up are in places he wouldnt be to begin with. Not often at least. He would end up a TE running away from slower linebackers or a WR beating up on guys the size of you and me. Well...smaller than me actually.

Fast...and tough. But there is a reason it often seems nobody is a physical match for 6'3'' Jordy Nelson who had a 31 inch vertical at the combine but outjumps guys all day.

DBs are built for speed and reaction time. You cant ask one to beat a guy 6'3'' to a ball thrown high. And Lebron in his shoes is 6'8''...too big a target. you can put it too high. One on one with 5-6 yards to get hes gonna slaughter most corners. Gotta match him up with a LB...and who is gonna be 250 AND run with him?

A few no doubt.

But not enough.

Hes the kind of matchup nightmare OCs dream about. They could protect him quite well. Them and the pads....and being the size of Karl Malone taking hits from people smaller than John Stockton.

He would be ok.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Big hits are common in that they happen every game....but there are guys who go whole seasons without taking a big hit. Lebron wouldnt be Wes Welker darting around the middle for 120 catches and 140 hits a season. The guys bringing him down would be the size of John Lucas:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2381729/jliii.gif

Actually smaller. Hes 6'0'' or a tad above. Of the 170 NFL corners in 2012....53 were six feet tall.

53.

And Lebron makes him look like a middle schooler. Lebron literally leaps over guys the size of NFL corners:

http://sketchcardsaloon.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lebron-james-jumps-over-john-lucas-and-dunks.jpg

The guys who could really light him up are in places he wouldnt be to begin with. Not often at least. He would end up a TE running away from slower linebackers or a WR beating up on guys the size of you and me. Well...smaller than me actually.

Fast...and tough. But there is a reason it often seems nobody is a physical match for 6'3'' Jordy Nelson who had a 31 inch vertical at the combine but outjumps guys all day.

DBs are built for speed and reaction time. You cant ask one to beat a guy 6'3'' to a ball thrown high. And Lebron in his shoes is 6'8''...too big a target. you can put it too high. One on one with 5-6 yards to get hes gonna slaughter most corners. Gotta match him up with a LB...and who is gonna be 250 AND run with him?

A few no doubt.

But not enough.

Hes the kind of matchup nightmare OCs dream about. They could protect him quite well. Them and the pads....and being the size of Karl Malone taking hits from people smaller than John Stockton.

He would be ok.


Exactly this.

Randy Moss wasnt the least bit tough. And he was still a record setting receiver. Lebron is like Moss with more height and more muscle. And probably a good deal smarter too.

Lebron would crush in the NFL. There is no reason to think otherwise.

[ispin69]

http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Lebron_Fullscreen-1.jpg
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Average career of a football player is 3 years. Almost no guaranteed contracts. Injuries happen way more often. Share the lime light with 50+ guys on one team. Few big names get the big contracts. He made the right decision.

[pauk]

Kblaze, dont know anything about NFL/American Football, never could get into it (hey now, am Euro), but how would you think Lebron would fare as that tall guy in the back throwing passes, quarter back right? Its logical to me to think if he could transition his vision/passing into that game, at 6'8, literally seeing over everybody could be... good... ?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kblaze, dont know anything about NFL/American Football, never could get into it (hey now, am Euro), but how would you think Lebron would fare as that tall guy in the back throwing passes, quarter back right? Its logical to me to think if he could transition his vision/passing into that game, at 6'8, literally seeing over everybody could be... good... ?
:oldlol:

Clearly you don't know much about American Football, or the NFL specifically. LeBron didn't even play QB in high school.

LeBron doesn't have the intelligence to play NFL QB. He has the athleticism to though, but black QBs are overrated and only one got carried to a Super Bowl win.

The rest suck. LeBron probably could play it in college, where athleticism at the QB position trumps everything.

LeBron would be best as a deep threat wide receiver. He can't take incidental physical contact from little old Kirk Hinrich, so that prevents him from being a slot receiver over the middle, or a tight end ... or a defensive end, which his body is more built to play.

It takes more heart to play football than basketball, so LeBron lacking heart, tenacity, and mental toughness. His positions would be limited.

[tpols]

:oldlol:

Clearly you don't know much about American Football, or the NFL specifically. LeBron didn't even play QB in high school.

LeBron doesn't have the intelligence to play NFL QB. He has the athleticism to though, but black QBs are overrated and only one got carried to a Super Bowl win.

The rest suck. LeBron probably could play it in college, where athleticism at the QB position trumps everything.

LeBron would be best as a deep threat wide receiver. He can't take incidental physical contact from little old Kirk Hinrich, so that prevents him from being a slot receiver over the middle, or a tight end ... or a defensive end, which his body is more built to play.

It takes more heart to play football than basketball, so LeBron lacking heart, tenacity, and mental toughness. His positions would be limited.
Lebron could probably destroy as a TE.. but honestly if he crumbles under the pressure at times in basketball IDK what to expect of him having to run a 2 minute drill where its do or die as a QB.. its pretty much the most pressure packed thing in all of sports and its pretty much all mental..

Cant just dominate with athleticism, you have to have the defense read, your recievers in a position to counter, and make the right choice at the right time everytime.

[Kblaze8855]

LeBron doesn't have the intelligence to play NFL QB. He has the athleticism to though, but black QBs are overrated and only one got carried to a Super Bowl win.

The rest suck.

So....black Qbs other than Williams suck?

[OldSkoolball#52]

:oldlol:

LeBron doesn't have the intelligence to play NFL QB.





White people love the "QB has to be really smart!!" myth.

[Kblaze8855]

And QB takes too much to just drop in and be good at it. Even in college. QBs are QBs from birth.

[SamuraiSWISH]

So....black Qbs other than Williams suck?
No he wasn't great either. All the athletic black QBs suck. They never win anything, too selfish ... too dumb:

Moon
Cunningham
Culpepper
McNabb
Vick
Young
Russell
RG III

That annoying, self promoting clown who plays for the Panthers.

Black QBs don't get the job done, period. They're too dumb. It's always been this way. They get it done in college, when not everyone is on a level playing field from an athletic perspective.

In the pros, when you have to THINK the game out. They fail, miserably.

[OldSkoolball#52]

So....black Qbs other than Williams suck?


Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham beg to differ, certainly.

QB is overrated in general just like the prez of the US. People need one persons face they can associate the success or the failure of the group with.

Most qbs succeed or fail due to circumstance, just like presidents. Thus, a lot of QBs as good as Tom Brady have been drafted by teams like the Lions or Bills or Texans but never had a chance to become famous from the beginning. The percentage of white qbs who've even been put on a title quality team is low, and obviously thereve been far fewer black qbs in the league. So the number will obviously be even lower.


However black qbs brought into the league just for running have an even lower chance, bc the position isnt about running. But the same could be said about white guys like JP Losman who were drafted for their "scrambling ability".

[Kingwillball]

Lebron would be a TE in NFL anyway.

[tpols]

No he wasn't great either. All the athletic black QBs suck. They never win anything, too selfish ... too dumb:

Moon
Cunningham
Culpepper
McNabb
Vick
Young
Russell
RG III

That annoying, self promoting clown who plays for the Panthers.

Black QBs don't get the job done, period. They're too dumb. It's always been this way. They get it done in college, when not everyone is on a level playing field from an athletic perspective.

In the pros, when you have to THINK the game out. They fail, miserably.
When you group Vince Young in with Donovan McNabb, Warren Moon, and Randall Cunningham you know you dont know jack shit about football and are just stereotyping.


McNabb was/is a very intelligent guy.. Vick, and young are too dumb. Culpepper was a fvcking beast before he got injured. Russell is a very intelligent young QB.

These guys are all different.. and the sample size is too small. Youre just stereotyping.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Youre just stereotyping.
I know my NFL football. Black QBs don't win. They never have. They're dumb, it's literally that simple. Only 1 black QB has ever won a championship. That isn't without reason. Facts.

[kNicKz]

LeBron doesn't have the intelligence to play NFL QB. He has the athleticism to though, but black QBs are overrated and only one got carried to a Super Bowl win.



Wtf? You think Brett Favre was a rocket scientist? also, I don't even think I need to comment on how retarded and illogical the "black" comment was

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wtf? You think Brett Favre was a rocket scientist? also, I don't even think I need to comment on how retarded and illogical the "black" comment was
The dumbest of white quarterbacks look like scholars compared to black quarterbacks.

[kNicKz]

The dumbest of white quarterbacks look like scholars compared to black quarterbacks.

:facepalm

You're ****ing retarded

RG3 is one of the brightest players in the league. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it :facepalm

[Trollsmasher]

Jeff, could you please ban that racist idiot?

[SamuraiSWISH]

:facepalm

You're ****ing retarded

RG3 is one of the brightest players in the league. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it :facepalm
How am I racist for saying black QBs are dumb and don't win championships? It's factual.

What's the difference in saying white guys in the NBA are predominantly unathletic? That's thrown around quite regularly. Racist claims?

My favorite sport is basketball, my favorite athlete of all-time isn't of my race. You can't be serious.

This is just my opinion, and until proven wrong. It stands. Black QBs don't get the job done. I question their intelligence regularly when they play.

[Wally450]

So by the logic going on in this thread, Steve McNair sucks? Could've fooled me.

:lol

[funnystuff]

I mean only 1 black QB has ever won a super bowl in 50+ seasons..

[Kblaze8855]

No he wasn't great either. All the athletic black QBs suck. They never win anything, too selfish ... too dumb:

Moon
Cunningham
Culpepper
McNabb
Vick
Young
Russell
RG III

That annoying, self promoting clown who plays for the Panthers.

Black QBs don't get the job done, period. They're too dumb. It's always been this way. They get it done in college, when not everyone is on a level playing field from an athletic perspective.

In the pros, when you have to THINK the game out. They fail, miserably.


So when a white QB loses it can be for any reason...a black Qb loses hes just too dumb?

You know only 29 QBs have won a superbowl right?

If Wilson were on the 2000 Ravens who just stopped everyone...

They lose due to his blackness im guessing?

[SamuraiSWISH]

So by the logic going on in this thread, Steve McNair sucks? Could've fooled me.

:lol
RIP McNair. But yea, he was dumb too. Elite coach, elite defense, and Eddie George were to thank for the Titans success.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I know my NFL football. Black QBs don't win. They never have. They're dumb, it's literally that simple. Only 1 black QB has ever won a championship. That isn't without reason. Facts.
After Russell Wilson wins a super bowl this year it will be 2.

[SamuraiSWISH]

You know only 29 QBs have won a superbowl right?
And only 1 of 29 was black. Coincidence?

[Kblaze8855]

How am I racist for saying black QBs are dumb and don't win championships? It's factual.



A list of your most head scratching racist statements....might not even have this topic in your top 10.

You are pretty consistent ill give you that.

[SamuraiSWISH]

A list of your most head scratching racist statements
You think I'm racist, Blaze? What other racist statements have I made?


....might not even have this topic in your top 10.
Can you list other memorable ones? And are you going to ban me for my opinion?

[Real Men Wear Green]

You think I'm racist, Blaze? What other racist statements have I made?
You have to be mentally retarded to actually ask that question.

[kNicKz]

What's the difference in saying white guys in the NBA are predominantly unathletic? That's thrown around quite regularly.



Thats another incredibly retarded statement . Is Andre Miller bursting with athleticism? Zach Randolph? Being athletic has nothing to do with the color of your skin moron

Side note: If you're in the NBA you are athletic as hell....

[Jameerthefear]

Samurai Swish saying stupid shit again? Insidehoops. Same shit different day.

[Heavincent]

SamuraiSWISH may have overstated his point a bit, but there is some truth to what he's saying. Historically, QB is a white man's position. It's just a fact.

Some of you guys are being overly sensitive.

[funnystuff]

SamuraiSWISH may have overstated his point a bit, but there is some truth to what he's saying. Historically, QB is a white man's position. It's just a fact.

Some of you guys are being overly sensitive.
This. If you said "White people cant jump", nobody would even lift a finger because its the general consensus.

[Kblaze8855]

Do you really need a history lesson on black QBs?

The league tried to turn Warren Moons slow ass into a TE forcing him to go to canada and set every passing record to prove he could....

But you wanna talk about why the numbers are what they are?

It was like 2001 before a black QB stopped being a story.....

Tom Brady, Dan Fouts, and Jim Kelly have lost with more teams that should have won than all black QBs combined ever.

Who really should have won? Cunningham that 15-1 year. Moon one of those 2 years they had defense if we ignore that the 49ers and cowboys were always better talentwise.

Donovan? With Todd Pinkston and a broken shin TO?

Vick? No.

RG3, Russell, or Cam as rookies/second year players?

Mcnair who lost literally by a yard....vs the Greatest show on Turf?

Really...tell me the black QBS who should have won. I'll give you 10 whites who should. And the truth will be obvious. There are just a lot more white QBs.

Why wouldnt they win a lot more?


The first NFL champion ever...led by Fritz Pollard. This guy:

http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2003-04/03-078a.jpg

The black guy they tucked into the corner here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Akron_pros_1920.jpg


Just so happens he played for the Akron Pros. An original NFL team. Just happen to be from Lebrons hometown....


They win the NFL title.

Guyss what happens then?

They put his black ass and all 9 other blacks out of the league.

And then...48 years later another guy gets a real shot. A shot to be a real every down QB. He has a great rookie season. sets the Denver rookie record for TD passes. Which is still the record by the way...

Guess how that goes?

The Bills made him a WR and he never played QB again after his rookie season.

Black QBs were dismissed and disrespected by people like you for 80 ****ing years.

And you ask if its coincidence they won so few?

Of course it isnt.

Its a joke. Just not for the reason a guy like you would think.

[Kblaze8855]

You think I'm racist, Blaze? What other racist statements have I made?

You act like this has never come up before....


Can you list other memorable ones? And are you going to ban me for my opinion?


I dont care about you being a racist. I wish you were not a Bulls fan at times but thats about it. Most people are a little racist. You just have a bit more in there and dont hide it. Which in one way can be respected. Id rather deal with the guy who comes right out with it than one pretending.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Its funny bc Jeff/Steve will ban me in a hot second when I use the word niigger in the context of DISCUSSING THE WORD niigger and yet he lets legitimately demeaning and purposely hurtful commentary go unpunished.

****in hypocrite.

[Heavincent]

Donovan? With Todd Pinkston and a broken shin TO?


If I recall correctly, it was Owens who dominated the super bowl and McNabb who threw 3 picks and was so nervous he was literally puking in the huddle.


Vick? No.

Vick had a few great years but is an injury prone scumbag who spent 3 years of his prime in jail. The fact that you're even mentioning him says a lot and kind of proves my point.


RG3, Russell, or Cam as rookies/second year players?

I like all of those guys. We'll see how their careers play out.


Mcnair who lost literally by a yard....vs the Greatest show on Turf?


Mcnair was great, but again, he wasn't some legendary QB or anything like that.

The QB position has always been dominated by the white man. It's not racist, it's just the truth.

[Kblaze8855]

The Eagles shouldnt have even been near the SB. Donovan did more than most would have. And im not even a fan.

But those teams didnt have much. Not on offense at least.

[Heavincent]

The Eagles shouldnt have even been near the SB. Donovan did more than most would have. And im not even a fan.


That has more to do with the NFL's one and done playoff system than McNabb (although he was very good). It wasn't the first time it happened and definitely wasn't the last. The 2011 Giants were nothing more than slightly above average and look what they did. Or the 08 Cardinals who were getting 50 point bombs dropped on them in the second half of the season but still managed to make the super bowl. That's just the nature of the NFL.

[unbreakable]

lol Kblaze sucking lebrons pipi as usual

Lebron wouldnt last one snap in the NFL. dude is tissue-paper soft.

[tpols]

That has more to do with the NFL's one and done playoff system than McNabb (although he was very good). It wasn't the first time it happened and definitely wasn't the last. The 2011 Giants were nothing more than slightly above average and look what they did. Or the 08 Cardinals who were getting 50 point bombs dropped on them in the second half of the season but still managed to make the super bowl. That's just the nature of the NFL.
Which is why it's silly to say a black qb can't win because they're not intelligent enough.. Black qbs weren't prevalent in the league until the 2000s.. And even now they're still a heavy minority. Only one qb can win each year. Joe flacco won last year.. He's worse than a ton of black qbs.. Just got hot at the right time and had a good team around him.

If the sample size is that small.. And the parity is that large.. How can you assume a casual relationship?


McNabb choked.. Philly had a history of being a very strong team and throwing it away early. Was it because donovan was dumber than the white qbs who beat him? Not at all.. It doesn't follow the point.

[PJR]

SamuraiSWISH may have overstated his point a bit, but there is some truth to what he's saying. Historically, QB is a white man's position. It's just a fact.

Some of you guys are being overly sensitive.


May have overstated? He went full Rush Limbaugh :oldlol:.

You white boys always take it too far when it comes to the Black QB topic.

[Heavincent]

Which is why it's silly to say a black qb can't win because they're not intelligent enough.

I never said that though. All I said is that the QB position has been mostly dominated by white guys. Is that not true?

[KingBeasley08]

SamuraiSwish is an absolute idiot. At least now everyone knows not to take him seriously :oldlol:

[MavsSuperFan]

Russell Westbrook in the NFL >>>>>>>>> LeBron.

Put Russell Westbrook at CB and it'd be unfair. He'd be stepping in as the tallest, fastest, and strongest CB in the league
Some CBs in the NFL can run at an olympic level.

[OldSkoolball#52]

McNabb choked.. Philly had a history of being a very strong team and throwing it away early. Was it because donovan was dumber than the white qbs who beat him? Not at all.. It doesn't follow the point.


Donovan certainly wasnt dumb, but he did have a penchant for choking. Then again, so does Peyton Manning. Difference is Manning is better under regular circumstances, than Donovan, and just about anybody in history... Point being intelligence and choking arent even the same thing. Not sayin you stated as much, just making the observation.

[SamuraiSWISH]

May have overstated? He went full Rush Limbaugh :oldlol:.

You white boys always take it too far when it comes to the Black QB topic.
You right black boy, but I was demonstrative to get the point across.

[OldSkoolball#52]

May have overstated? He went full Rush Limbaugh :oldlol:.

You white boys always take it too far when it comes to the Black QB topic.


Actually what Rush said is accurate on a basic level. People in the media love to be seen/heard fawning over black QBs just so they can advertise their willingness to embrace diversity and total lack of prejudice. Its no different than the reason MANY liberals (white and black) voted for Obama. Theyre just trying to show off to everyone how NOT racist they are.

McNabb had a penchant for choking few wanted to acknowledge at the time, even tho guys like Manning and Romo get branded that way openly. The media desperately wanted to force a black QB into the elite tier so they could show everyone they dont think only whites can play it etc.

[tpols]

Donovan certainly wasnt dumb, but he did have a penchant for choking. Then again, so does Peyton Manning. Difference is Manning is better under regular circumstances, than Donovan, and just about anybody in history... Point being intelligence and choking arent even the same thing. Not sayin you stated as much, just making the observation.
yea thats what Im sayin.. they dont have anything to do with each other.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Anyway, samurai swoosh was artless in making a point that is essentially true but irrelevent.


There are almost no (probably none) white qbs as dumb in terms of overall intelligence as jamarcus rusell or trayvon pryor or michael vick. But frankly there have been plenty of white qbs who have had the same or less success as pros. People overrate QB intelligence. Dan Marino had a notoriously low wonderlic.

There have been/are qbs who are black that could play on title teams. Its obviously a very small percentage given the odds against any QB, then factor in how many fewer black quarterbacks there are.

[longtime lurker]

Lebron would excel at TE, but you guys are seriously deluding yourselves into thinking he'd dominate any position on the football field.

[pauk]

:oldlol:

Clearly you don't know much about American Football, or the NFL specifically. LeBron didn't even play QB in high school.

Yep... as i said... like most non-US guys, in Europe its as popular as womens cricket or something... watched it a couple of times, but just cant freakin figure out why so many Americans like it so much... it basically looks like a *****fied version of Rugby to me... no pun intended, im sure its a great game once you get to thoroughly understand it...

Anyways... So basically what you are trying to say is Lebron wouldnt be able to play QB mostly because he is... black... blacks suck at QB... because they are dumb... etc... :biggums:

I really need to find somebody else to learn me about the game immediately lol

[HomieWeMajor]

SamuraiSWISH =http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/do-the-right-thing-turturro.jpg

[Inactive]

There are black physicists, rocket scientists, neuro surgeons, etc., but they're all apparently too dumb to play QB.

[HomieWeMajor]

Blacks have too big of noses and lips to be handsome.

My g/f think Rose is cute. But JJ Reddick is the answer I most commonly hear. Wade would be attractive if his lips didn't DOMINATE his face, half black and half pink in color too.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8601629&postcount=155
http://www.chartattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/29-Camron-NP.gif

[pauk]

Tight end? Isnt that one of those fat/big dudes in the middle that do nothing but smash others fat/big dudes so the QB/CB/WR etc can go to work with the ball... ?

Im sure he could do that but since black QB's are dumb afterall wouldnt he be better used at least as a widereciever or cornerback or running back

I mean yes Lebron is big & strong, but he is also one of the fastest guy out there, not just for his size/weight, but literally one of the fastest guys out there compared to anybody.... he has a recorded 4.3 sec 40 yard dash for gods sake... anybody in NFL who ever had such a 40 yard dash time were all small speedy gonzales, widerecievers and such:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2mdewe9.jpg

Do you see any tight ends there?

Imagine your typical 6 foot world record fastest WR/CB/RB being now instead 6'9-260.....

So wouldnt Lebron be used better as a freight train, where you just put the ball on top and let it murder anything in its path for a touchdown....?

....or i really need to learn more about the game lol...

[aj1987]

I was with SamuraiSWISH, not the black QB thing, but that no one gets called out for saying white players are not athletic and all that stuff. Until...


Blacks have too big of noses and lips to be handsome.
Damn, bro. That's incredibly racist.

[Trollsmasher]

Tight end? Isnt that one of those fat/big dudes in the middle that do nothing but smash others fat/big dudes so the QB/CB/WR etc can go to work with the ball... ?

Im sure he could do that but since black QB's are dumb afterall wouldnt he be better used at least as a widereciever or cornerback or running back

I mean yes Lebron is big & strong, but he is also one of the fastest guy out there, not just for his size/weight, but literally one of the fastest guys out there compared to anybody.... he has a recorded 4.3 sec 40 yard dash for gods sake... anybody in NFL who ever had such a 40 yard dash time were all small speedy gonzales, widerecievers and such:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2mdewe9.jpg

Do you see any tight ends there?

Imagine your typical 6 foot world record fastest WR/CB/RB being now instead 6'9-260.....

So wouldnt Lebron be used better as a freight train, where you just put the ball on top and let it murder anything in its path for a touchdown....?

....or i really need to learn more about the game lol...
Tight End is basically mesh between a WR and those big fat dudes that smash those other big fat dudes. You can use them either for blocking or in a passing game.

LeBron's athletic dispositions are closer to that of your modern tight end like Jimmy Graham, than to those of a WR.

Also, Euro speaking here too, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[(e)]

Well if Nate Robinson or Kirk Hinrich can bring Bron down, I don't see NFL players having much trouble either...

But with how gifted of an athlete he is, I'm sure he could of been a very good NFL player. At this point in his career, I'd have my doubts of him being able to do anything outside of catching a fade or a jump ball in the end zone though.

And anyone taking 40 times seriously for football is drunk. It's pretty much useless unless a player is just way faster or way slower than other players at their position. But then again, tell me when a player is going to be running straight for 40 yards without pads on...and without defenders trying to tackle them. Putting those pads on and defenders on the field changes things quite a bit lol

[pauk]

Tight End is basically mesh between a WR and those big fat dudes that smash those other big fat dudes. You can use them either for blocking or in a passing game.

LeBron's athletic dispositions are closer to that of your modern tight end like Jimmy Graham, than to those of a WR.

Also, Euro speaking here too, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

:oldlol: :cheers:

So basically Tight End is perhaps the most versatile position? If so, i guess that makes sense to put Lebron there.

[pauk]

Well if Nate Robinson or Kirk Hinrich can bring Bron down, I don't see NFL players having much trouble either...

But with how gifted of an athlete he is, I'm sure he could of been a very good NFL player. At this point in his career, I'd have my doubts of him being able to do anything outside of catching a fade or a jump ball in the end zone though.

And anyone taking 40 times seriously for football is drunk. It's pretty much useless unless a player is just way faster or way slower than other players at their position. But then again, tell me when a player is going to be running straight for 40 yards without pads on...and without defenders trying to tackle them. Putting those pads on and defenders on the field changes things quite a bit lol

lol.... come on man, Lebron is just selling those aka. flopping.... if he didnt do that then there is a big chance he wouldnt get the call.... if you kick an elephant with all your might, nothing happens to it, it doesnt move, doesnt look like you fouled it all, hell you hurt yourself more.... but if the elephant made sure it moved/shaked like if it got hit by a rocketlauncher then its obvious something happened.... a player wouldnt have to sell an obvious foul, but you often have to when the reffs usually swallow their whistle...

in NFL you dont have to worry about that, Lebron would have the full freedom to beast physically...

[kNicKz]

Tight end? Isnt that one of those fat/big dudes in the middle that do nothing but smash others fat/big dudes so the QB/CB/WR etc can go to work with the ball... ?

Im sure he could do that but since black QB's are dumb afterall wouldnt he be better used at least as a widereciever or cornerback or running back

I mean yes Lebron is big & strong, but he is also one of the fastest guy out there, not just for his size/weight, but literally one of the fastest guys out there compared to anybody.... he has a recorded 4.3 sec 40 yard dash for gods sake... anybody in NFL who ever had such a 40 yard dash time were all small speedy gonzales, widerecievers and such:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2mdewe9.jpg

Do you see any tight ends there?

Imagine your typical 6 foot world record fastest WR/CB/RB being now instead 6'9-260.....

So wouldnt Lebron be used better as a freight train, where you just put the ball on top and let it murder anything in its path for a touchdown....?

....or i really need to learn more about the game lol...

I found your lack of knowledge disturbing

All you're doing is talking about height and weight. Which you don't even have correct... A modern tight end like Gronk is 6'5"-6'7" 260-270 anyway. Also, Lebron isn't 6'9" either, so I'm not sure why you always say he is 6'9" when he is really 6'7.5"

No one knows if Lebron can take NFL contact and keep going. He has a history of mental weakness. I'm not sure if he can handle getting dropped behind the line of scrimmage and smashed in the face by a guy like Vince Wilfork. Yes, he shit on little kids when he was a sophomore in high school but he doesn't exactly thrive on contact in the NBA. He'd probably sustain an injury pretty quick. Generally in the NFL big targets get hit a lot. (Gronk, Graham, etc.) NFL combines are incredibly overrated. It's about playing the game of football, knowing how to hit, etc. Guys far slower than Lebron with deep knowledge of routs could easily trap and hit him. I'll look at combine numbers when I want to pick guys for a track team

[pauk]

I found your lack of knowledge disturbing

All you're doing is talking about height and weight. Which you don't even have correct... A modern tight end like Gronk is 6'5"-6'7" 260-270 anyway. Also, Lebron isn't 6'9" either, so I'm not sure why you always say he is 6'9" when he is really 6'7.5"

No one knows if Lebron can take NFL contact and keep going. He has a history of mental weakness. I'm not sure if he can handle getting dropped behind the line of scrimmage and smashed in the face by a guy like Vince Wilfork. Yes, he shit on little kids when he was a sophomore in high school but he doesn't exactly thrive on contact in the NBA. He'd probably sustain an injury pretty quick. Generally in the NFL big targets get hit a lot. (Gronk, Graham, etc.) NFL combines are incredibly overrated. It's about playing the game of football, knowing how to hit, etc. Guys far slower than Lebron with deep knowledge of routs could easily trap and hit him. I'll look at combine numbers when I want to pick guys for a track team

What!? As far as i know Lebron is all about CONTACT in basketball, this guy is ragdolling everything on its path for the bucket while being hammered all the time, he shrugs of contact, everything, like its nothing.... just because he doesnt fight others like a thug on the court doesnt mean he has a "mental weakness" (cant see how any other mythical "mental weakness" you can ever think of he showed in a basketball court can hinder him in football physically).... the best player who is very important to his team especially wont do something as stupid as be extra physical with somebody and get ejected....... and again in Football he wont have that problem, its only there he will have freedom, its only there we would be able to see how "mentally weak" he is in terms of contact....

[Trollsmasher]

I found your lack of knowledge disturbing

All you're doing is talking about height and weight. Which you don't even have correct... A modern tight end like Gronk is 6'5"-6'7" 260-270 anyway. Also, Lebron isn't 6'9" either, so I'm not sure why you always say he is 6'9" when he is really 6'7.5"

No one knows if Lebron can take NFL contact and keep going. He has a history of mental weakness. I'm not sure if he can handle getting dropped behind the line of scrimmage and smashed in the face by a guy like Vince Wilfork. Yes, he shit on little kids when he was a sophomore in high school but he doesn't exactly thrive on contact in the NBA. He'd probably sustain an injury pretty quick. Generally in the NFL big targets get hit a lot. (Gronk, Graham, etc.) NFL combines are incredibly overrated. It's about playing the game of football, knowing how to hit, etc. Guys far slower than Lebron with deep knowledge of routs could easily trap and hit him. I'll look at combine numbers when I want to pick guys for a track team
That's such a bullshit.

[kNicKz]

So you ignore my entire post and point to now argue if he thrives on contact in the NBA or not? :roll: classic deflection

Just for the lulz btw:




http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/51a63ee26bb3f7bd15000003/lebron-james-flop-knicks-2012.gif



http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

[kNicKz]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/social_assets/nfl/Week_2/Seahawks_Cowboys/GoldenTate_TrucksSeanLee.gif

http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/jadeveon-clowney-hit.jpg


I think there's a reason he chose not to pursue football, or continue it in high school .

This is a 6'6" 270 player under this text

http://i.imgur.com/w2lME.gif

If you understand the mechanics of hitting you can take someone out violently.

Can Lebron take a hit?

http://sportsgif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nazr-Mohammed-Shoves-LeBron-James-GIF.gif

I have a hunch that he can't

[funnystuff]

I found your lack of knowledge disturbing

All you're doing is talking about height and weight. Which you don't even have correct... A modern tight end like Gronk is 6'5"-6'7" 260-270 anyway. Also, Lebron isn't 6'9" either, so I'm not sure why you always say he is 6'9" when he is really 6'7.5"

No one knows if Lebron can take NFL contact and keep going. He has a history of mental weakness. I'm not sure if he can handle getting dropped behind the line of scrimmage and smashed in the face by a guy like Vince Wilfork. Yes, he shit on little kids when he was a sophomore in high school but he doesn't exactly thrive on contact in the NBA. He'd probably sustain an injury pretty quick. Generally in the NFL big targets get hit a lot. (Gronk, Graham, etc.) NFL combines are incredibly overrated. It's about playing the game of football, knowing how to hit, etc. Guys far slower than Lebron with deep knowledge of routs could easily trap and hit him. I'll look at combine numbers when I want to pick guys for a track team
:biggums:

[anthonyRandolph]

he'd be a major target, it'd be best he didn't.

[Heavincent]

lol.... come on man, Lebron is just selling those aka. flopping.... if he didnt do that then there is a big chance he wouldnt get the call.... if you kick an elephant with all your might, nothing happens to it, it doesnt move, doesnt look like you fouled it all, hell you hurt yourself more.... but if the elephant made sure it moved/shaked like if it got hit by a rocketlauncher then its obvious something happened.... a player wouldnt have to sell an obvious foul, but you often have to when the reffs usually swallow their whistle...

in NFL you dont have to worry about that, Lebron would have the full freedom to beast physically...

Pauk, what happens when Lebron runs into this guy?

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2013/09/tex-hawks-gal-21-306x428.jpg

[kNicKz]

:biggums:

3 trolls with 0 response and counting

[kNicKz]

Pauk, what happens when Lebron runs into this guy?

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2013/09/tex-hawks-gal-21-306x428.jpg

Or this guy?

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/LeBron+James+Jason+Kidd+Miami+Heat+v+Dallas+pS6y9K mC6Ujl.jpg

Rikers Island in the paint

[pauk]

So you ignore my entire post and point to now argue if he thrives on contact in the NBA or not? :roll: classic deflection

Just for the lulz btw:




http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/51a63ee26bb3f7bd15000003/lebron-james-flop-knicks-2012.gif



http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

He is selling those out to get a call...

He wont have to worry about that in American Football....

[aj1987]

I think there's a reason he chose not to pursue football, or continue it in high school .

This is a 6'6" 270 player under this text

If you understand the mechanics of hitting you can take someone out violently.

Can Lebron take a hit?

I have a hunch that he can't
He's not working out and hasn't been working about to play football for the past 11-12 years? Not sure if he'd be a good player, but he can definitely play in the NFL.

The reason he chose basketball was because he was the best high school player in the country, but not the best football player.

[kNicKz]

He's not working out and hasn't been working about to play football for the past 11-12 years?

The reason he chose basketball was because he was the best high school player in the country, but not the best football player.

You realize that conditioning and training for the two sports are completely different?

:facepalm

Also, the SPORTS are different. You can't get an NFL IQ over night. Lebron would be lost out there . He's a ****ing basketball player. This has nothing to do with his size . Brock Lesnar can't take on Vitali Klitschko in a boxing ring just because he's huge and also a tough guy....:facepalm

It's like saying michael phelps can join USA track because he's athletic

[kNicKz]

Wait, so Lebron dickriders are offended that I don't think he would dominate in a sport that he has never played? (NFL level football)

:roll:

You guys should take a step back and read this shit ...it's lightweight embarrassing

[aj1987]

You realize that conditioning and training for the two sports are completely different?

:facepalm

Also, the SPORTS are different. You can't get an NFL IQ over night. Lebron would be lost out there . He's a ****ing basketball player. This has nothing to do with his size . Brock Lesnar can't take on Vitali Klitschko in a boxing ring just because he's huge and also a tough guy....:facepalm

It's like saying michael phelps can join USA track because he's athletic
Isn't that exactly what I said? That he hasn't trained to be a football player in the past 11-12 years?

[Heavincent]

Nobody's saying he doesn't have the physical tools (he obviously does), but the level of physicality in the NFL is just something he's never experienced. Can you imagine him going up against The Legion of Boom (Seattle Seahawks secondary)? Those dudes are fvcking viscous and would give him the beating of his life.

All I'm saying is that he couldn't just walk into the NFL and be immediately successful. There would definitely be an adjustment period.

[Inactive]

Posting gifs of Lebron flopping, and acting that is evidence of his inability to take contact :facepalm.

It doesn't take some superhuman level of toughness to play football. Lebron is extremely durable. He's had little time off to recover in recent years, he rarely misses games, and he takes a lot of contact by NBA standards, yet he's never had a real injury.

If he tried to crossover into the NFL now, he'd be a huge target, and they'd probably make it tough for him. If he went into the NFL from the start, he'd be fine.

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah... Pauk you shouldn't comment on this. You've said some straight up stupid shit already when it comes to Lebron and football earlier even when you know jack shit about the sport:

oh please....

6'9" / ~270 lbs PHYSICAL/ATHLETICAL FREAK with a 4.3 sec 40 yard dash (even the NFL has never seen this kindof athlete at that size)... hell Lebron wouldnt mind adding even more muscle and not lose an inch of his athleticism/agility.... a 6'9" - 300+ LBS BEAST....

This makes Lebron a human TRAIN... literally.... Lebron would just take the ball and run a straight line thru everybody all the way to a touchdown, leaving a trail of crushed midgets & fat linebackers behind him......

it would be human bowling.... something like this

oh and more thing.......


how bout Lebron as a QUARTERBACK!! his court vision & passing ability is something else to...
^^ thinks Lebron passing ability translate to being an NfL QB :facepalm

yep... vision & passing ability.... at 6'8-6'9 even.... what more skill is there? all that comes thru experience knowing where and when to throw it, accuracy, timing and so on..... Lebron could master QB
see more here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236621

[pauk]

Pauk, what happens when Lebron runs into this guy?

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2013/09/tex-hawks-gal-21-306x428.jpg

How big/athletic etc. is that guy? If he is much smaller than ~6'9" and has less power/muscle than a 260-270 lbs then all i can say is that by way of physical forces & rules of mother nature i thinks its perfectly rational to believe a ~6'9"-260 behemoth would cause a bit more damage on a smaller & weaker guy....

So... you tell me what would happen... :confusedshrug:

[HomieWeMajor]

If Magic played NFL he would have thrown no look passes at QB because of his 'court vision'

[aj1987]

How big/athletic etc. is that guy? If he is much smaller than ~6'9" and has less power/muscle than a 260-270 lbs then all i can say is that by way of physical forces & rules of mother nature i thinks its perfectly rational to believe a ~6'9"-260 behemoth would cause a bit more damage on a smaller & weaker guy....

So... you tell me what would happen... :confusedshrug:
I can understand why kNicKz is spazzing out now.

The guy is 6'5" 290.

[pauk]

Yeah... Pauk you shouldn't comment on this. You've said some straight up stupid shit already when it comes to Lebron and football earlier even when you know jack shit about the sport:


^^ thinks Lebron passing ability translate to being an NfL QB :facepalm

see more here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236621

I think i did mention a couple of times i didnt know much about the sport.... thats why i ask "stupid" stuff....

But, i do know much about natural laws of mother nature.... :)

[kNicKz]

How big/athletic etc. is that guy? If he is much smaller than ~6'9" and has less power/muscle than a 260-270 lbs then all i can say is that by way of physical forces & rules of mother nature i thinks its perfectly rational to believe a ~6'9"-260 behemoth would cause a bit more damage on a smaller & weaker guy....

So... you tell me what would happen... :confusedshrug:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2388955/lebronRB_medium.gif

How big is kirk hinrich again?

[pauk]

The guy is 6'5" 290.

Alright.... cool... who knows what would happen... :confusedshrug:

[kNicKz]

Alright.... cool... who knows what would happen... :confusedshrug:

Can you look up how big kirk hinrich is for us? Please don't add an inch and a half to the height plz

[pauk]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2388955/lebronRB_medium.gif

How big is kirk hinrich again?

Do you understand what flopping or selling out is in basketball?

[Heavincent]

How big/athletic etc. is that guy? If he is much smaller than ~6'9" and has less power/muscle than a 260-270 lbs then all i can say is that by way of physical forces & rules of mother nature i thinks its perfectly rational to believe a ~6'9"-260 behemoth would cause a bit more damage on a smaller & weaker guy....

So... you tell me what would happen... :confusedshrug:

He's 6'5" and about 300 pounds with ridiculous strength and speed. Lebron is gonna get put on his ass if he's the ball carrier coming at JJ Watt.

Don't know why you're citing Lebron's height as an advantage. His height would be an advantage as a receiver, but it's better to have a lower center of gravity when you're carrying the ball (that's why most RB's are short). If anything, Watt's height would be to his advantage in the hypothetical scenario we're describing.

[aj1987]

Alright.... cool... who knows what would happen... :confusedshrug:
I doubt Lebron would be any good.

kNicKz, 6'4" and 190.

[sportjames23]

Wait, so Lebron dickriders are offended that I don't think he would dominate in a sport that he has never played? (NFL level football)

:roll:

You guys should take a step back and read this shit ...it's lightweight embarrassing

Seriously. No athlete can just switch sports and dominate, no matter how great an athlete he or she is. MJ, as great a basketball player as he was, couldn't translate that to baseball.

The reason Deion and Bo could be great a two different sports is because they continuously played them from high school to the pros.

Lebron hasn't played football since high school. There's a HUGE difference between high school football and NFL football. His body and coordination is conditioned for basketball, not football. He would NOT be able to play football and dominate.

[kNicKz]

Do you understand what flopping or selling out is in basketball?

I don't understand. He can't make a lay up on a point guard ?

You realize that 2 pts plus free throw = 3?

Flopping= 2 free throws?

Generally , in basic mathematics (circa 2nd grade) 3>2

Lebron isn't wired for contact. He would get shut down in the NFL

[Jameerthefear]

I think i did mention a couple of times i didnt know much about the sport.... thats why i ask "stupid" stuff....

But, i do know much about natural laws of mother nature.... :)
You're asking some and with your very basic and limited knowledge saying stupid shit. Just stop.

[pauk]

Alright, this is pointless.... i give up... i agree that:

1. Lebron would get destroyed by anybody who is smaller in NFL.... because... well.. NFL players are much bigger/stronger than guys who are much bigger/stronger than they are.... logic...

2. Lebron flops/sells fouls in the NBA... oops, i mean, no, thats really him being that weak in terms of contact, he is not acting, its just guys like even Hinrich overpowering him, Lebron is that weak really.......

3. **** Lebron, i hate Lebron....

Yay, i agree with you, now im not stupid... now im smart!! **** yes!

[kNicKz]

Alright, this is pointless.... i give up... i agree that:

1. Lebron would get destroyed by anybody who is smaller in NFL.... because... well.. NFL players are much bigger/stronger than guys who are much bigger/stronger than they are.... logic...

2. Lebron flops/sells fouls in the NBA... oops, i mean, no, thats really him being that weak in terms of contact, he is not acting, its just guys like even Hinrich overpowering him, Lebron is that weak really.......

3. **** Lebron, i hate Lebron....

Yay, i agree with you, now im not STUPID... now im smart!! **** yes!

meltdown t-minus

[pauk]

meltdown t-minus

I agree im melting down, i mean you are so right, how could you possibly now... please let me be as smart as you....

...and oh, about Hinrich, i mean you are so right again... Lebron will need to shoot the ball in NFL aswell, so... yea... i mean if he cant do that against Hinrich when he wraps himself around his face he wont do that in NFL either....

Man i wish i was as smart as kNickKKKzzZz

[kNicKz]

I agree im melting down, i mean you are so right, how could you possibly now... please let me be as smart as you....

...and oh, about Hinrich, i mean you are so right again... Lebron will need to shoot the ball in NFL aswell, so... yea... i mean if he cant do that against Hinrich when he wraps himself around his face he wont do that in NFL either....

Man i wish i was as smart as kNickKKKzzZz

http://ajsupreme.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/mj-laughing1.gif

[funnystuff]

Yeah, it would probably suck knowing you're a fan of a joke organization and knowing that said organization is located in a littered, trashed out waste of space..










^

[kNicKz]

Yeah, it would probably suck knowing you're a fan of a joke organization and knowing that said organization is located in a littered, trashed out waste of space..










^

You actually have 0 response to what I said

Classic

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[funnystuff]

You actually have 0 response to what I said

Classic

:roll: :roll: :roll:
You're talking to Pauk, not me.

[kNicKz]

You're talking to Pauk, not me.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

they aren't even on topic anymore

it's over guys. Lock thread


Golf clap...they tried

[The Iron Fist]

I agree im melting down, i mean you are so right, how could you possibly now... please let me be as smart as you....

...and oh, about Hinrich, i mean you are so right again... Lebron will need to shoot the ball in NFL aswell, so... yea... i mean if he cant do that against Hinrich when he wraps himself around his face he wont do that in NFL either....

Man i wish i was as smart as kNickKKKzzZz
lol, how could you possibly know he would be great? Because hes big? That doesn't mean shit. Hes soft as goo. He chose basketball because he doesn't like to be hit.


and to the dumbasses putting him on the level of Bo Jackson. lol, Bo Jackson was perceived to be great at two sports, he actually was. You can't just look at lebron and say he would be great at football because hes good at basketball. It doesn't work like that, or else Jordan would have been great at baseball.

Two sport stars at the elite level are rare.

Lebron is not one of them.

[kNicKz]

Pauk assessment

http://www.thefastertimes.com/sportschat/files/2011/06/kwame-brown.jpg

GOAT center, will clearly dominate basketball. All you need to be is tall, strong, and fast to be good.

[Inactive]

He chose basketball because he doesn't like to be hit.
He chose basketball because he could make more money, be a bigger star, and have a longer career in the NBA.

[The Iron Fist]

He chose basketball because he could make more money, be a bigger star, and have a longer career in the NBA.


and because its an easier sport. The dude is simply not tough in terms of taking punishment. Hes the same guy who missed 7 games because of a hangnail on his pinky.

[The Iron Fist]

Pauk assessment

http://www.thefastertimes.com/sportschat/files/2011/06/kwame-brown.jpg

GOAT center, will clearly dominate basketball. All you need to be is tall, strong, and fast to be good.
Pauk assessment,

Lebron can beat

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/picresized_1239461147_ArreolaMcClineWeighIn_Hoganp hotos.jpg

one after the other because hes taller with a longer reach.

[Jameerthefear]

funnystuff being dumb again. what a surprise.

[I<3NBA]

he's gonna do an MJ and retire from basketball to play in another sport after his 3rd ring.

difference with MJ is that he'll actually be good at his 2nd sport.

[sportjames23]

he's gonna do an MJ and retire from basketball to play in another sport after his 3rd ring.

difference with MJ is that he'll actually be good at his 2nd sport.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/trying_not_to_laugh.gif

[Legends66NBA7]

He could definitely play one game because of his name, but he wouldn't just flat out dominate just like that. If he decided to play football as a pro from the start ? He certainly would be good. Ditto to a guy like Allen Iverson, who was a football star in high school too.

[D.J.]

Lebron hasn't played football since high school. There's a HUGE difference between high school football and NFL football. His body and coordination is conditioned for basketball, not football. He would NOT be able to play football and dominate.


There's a huge difference just between high school and college. In high school, LeBron was taking hits from 5'9" 180 lb 16 year olds. Picture that same hit from a grownass man at 6'3" 250 or 6'5" 270-280 and significantly more muscle mass.

[bluechox2]

shud let him play the superbowl and get a ring

[longtime lurker]

Jesus the homerism of Lebron stans is embarrassing. The claim that he'd flat out dominate the NFL just shows a full blown lack of knowledge.

[MavsSuperFan]

I actually think Lebron could make a decent pass catching TE ala shannon sharp.

I doubt he would be a good blocker but I think with his quickness, height, coordinations and jumping ability, he would be a great red zone option.

Knowing Lebron he would try to team with Peyton Manning

[RoseCity07]

He'd be a better football player than MJ was a baseball player. I think it would be interesting to see Lebron in the NFL. These guys get a lot longer time between games. So Lebron would be well rested for every game at at peak performance.

[sportjames23]

He'd be a better football player than MJ was a baseball player. I think it would be interesting to see Lebron in the NFL. These guys get a lot longer time between games. So Lebron would be well rested for every game at at peak performance.


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Greg Oden 50]

can leflop shut the mouth up ?????:facepalm

[coin24]

Reminds me of Lebron wanting to be in the dunk comp:oldlol: :facepalm
Attention whore stfu..

[sportjames23]

There's a huge difference just between high school and college. In high school, LeBron was taking hits from 5'9" 180 lb 16 year olds. Picture that same hit from a grownass man at 6'3" 250 or 6'5" 270-280 and significantly more muscle mass.


Exactly.

Granted, Lebron is bigger now than he was back then, but some folks tend to overstate Lebron's size. Lebron isn't as big as a lot of dudes make him out to be. He's listed at about 260. Now, Karl Malone and Charles Barkley were listed at 260, and they were for damn sure bigger than Lebron. So were the likes of Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley and Otis Thorpe.

[russwest0]

Reminds me of Lebron wanting to be in the dunk comp:oldlol: :facepalm
Attention whore stfu..

Or who could forget LeBron wanting to be the new NBA players association president? :oldlol:

[greymatter]

McNabb was/is a very intelligent guy.. Vick, and young are too dumb. Culpepper was a fvcking beast before he got injured. Russell is a very intelligent young QB.


That's not the first Russell that popped into my mind. Takes a hell of a lot to overtake Ryan Leaf as biggest bust of all time at NFL QB.

[greymatter]

Exactly.

Granted, Lebron is bigger now than he was back then, but some folks tend to overstate Lebron's size. Lebron isn't as big as a lot of dudes make him out to be. He's listed at about 260. Now, Karl Malone and Charles Barkley were listed at 260, and they were for damn sure bigger than Lebron. So were the likes of Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley and Otis Thorpe.

His weight is not overstated. If he were playing in the 80s, it would be more obvious. The man's got especially huge thighs.

[sportjames23]

His weight is not overstated. If he were playing in the 80s, it would be more obvious. The man's got especially huge thighs.

Well if Lebron is 260, Malone must have really been 290. Karl Malone in his prime was bigger than Lebron is now.

[Pointguard]

Well if Lebron is 260, Malone must have really been 290. Karl Malone in his prime was bigger than Lebron is now.

Legs is where Lebron makes up the weight. If you see Lebron he looks crazy big. Just watch Barkley every time he talks about him. He knows. Moreso, than Barkley or Malone, Lebron when he starts running really fast jults you. It really seems, (the power/speed quotient) like he could go through a brick wall. Moreso than even Shaq. Quienton Richardson looks like a football player if you see him live as his calves are like three trunks. Lebron makes him look like a kid.

[Trollsmasher]

Legs is where Lebron makes up the weight. If you see Lebron he looks crazy big. Just watch Barkley every time he talks about him. He knows. Moreso, than Barkley or Malone, Lebron when he starts running really fast jults you. It really seems, (the power/speed quotient) like he could go through a brick wall. Moreso than even Shaq. Quienton Richardson looks like a football player if you see him live as his calves are like three trunks. Lebron makes him look like a kid.
This. Most of the people are trying to find those additional 20-30 pounds that seem to put him over the top on his upper body, but he in fact really has thighs of a horse.

[Kblaze8855]

Well if Lebron is 260, Malone must have really been 290. Karl Malone in his prime was bigger than Lebron is now.

Not really. Maybe past his prime. Like...02-04 when he was just thick muscle. In his prime he was big arms and shoulders but not just thick up and down.

Jon Barry said he saw Bron weigh in at 270 on the cavs. Rich Bucher claimed the cavs said he was 274 in an insider article. Lebron himself said he was about 260 shortly after that came out. And a cavs lockeroom reporter claimed 278 was the biggest he saw and that was discussed during a Cavs/76ers game years ago.

He has two weights I suspect are at least reasonably accurate. His olympic listed weight of 242 9 years ago and I think 251 3 years ago. Considering they are both after a full NBA season, the playoffs, another camp to get ready and all?

Not hard to see him being 10-15 pounds smaller then than at his biggest.

My weight could change by 8-10 pounds over a HS football season and I didnt have nearly that much to lose.

If you are 260 or so chilling for weeks its not hard to be anywhere from 250-265 or so over the course of a year and look the same. Mayweather weighed in at 152 and was 146 the next morning he said. Meals...water....its gonna jump.

Lebron might be 260 this second. He might be 258. He might be 266. He said about 260 then later backtracked on it.

When he was a bit bulkier people with no reason to lie claimed they saw 270 with their own eyes. Good enough for me.

Hes...pretty much a larger than average power forward size wise.

I think the reason claims of 260-270 sound funny is people thinking the listed weights of others are accurate. They rarely adjust it. Shaq was over 400 to start 2003 and they never listed him over 350 far as I know and that was years later. He was probably listed 325 when he was 400.

These are large people. People their size gain or lose 10-15 pounds and look the same when normal people would look like stick figures losing that much at once.

Lebron never had the fat to lose like Shaq but he could change by quite a bit overthe course of a year off off muscle and how hydrated he is at the time.

[FLDFSU]

Wow. Who would have thought a NBA message board would be filled with so many idiotic white racists?

The problem for them is that this year a record 9 black qbs started game one in the nfl, and of the first 4 qbs taken in next year's draft, 3 will be black. And that says nothing about Stephen Morris and Logan Thomas, both of which will get a shot in the nfl. By 2015 half of the nfl could be starting black qbs, which doesn't bode too well for their "the qb position is a white's man position" nonsense.

[D.J.]

Shaq was over 400 to start 2003 and they never listed him over 350 far as I know and that was years later. He was probably listed 325 when he was 400.


He was overweight, but not that high. During that 2002-03 season, he was probably around 370-380. He was so out of shape it wasn't even funny.

[NumberSix]

Exactly.

Granted, Lebron is bigger now than he was back then, but some folks tend to overstate Lebron's size. Lebron isn't as big as a lot of dudes make him out to be. He's listed at about 260. Now, Karl Malone and Charles Barkley were listed at 260, and they were for damn sure bigger than Lebron. So were the likes of Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley and Otis Thorpe.
Barkley was actually 310 at one point.

[imdaman99]

He should suit up for the Jags. Pauk might even fly in to catch a glimpse of Lebron as Tight End :oldlol:

[MavsSuperFan]

That's not the first Russell that popped into my mind. Takes a hell of a lot to overtake Ryan Leaf as biggest bust of all time at NFL QB.
Ryan Leaf was drafted number 2, there have been tons of number 1 failures.

Eg. David carr, Tim Couch, etc.

[Inactive]

Well if Lebron is 260, Malone must have really been 290. Karl Malone in his prime was bigger than Lebron is now.Lebron was 245 when he was weighed for the draft. He looks significantly larger now.

Barkley's weight was for sure understated, not sure about Malone.

Malone's physique (large arms, and pecs) make him look deceptively large. For example, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger whose competition weight was supposedly around 235, at 6'1.

[ripthekik]

Just like he's entering the slam dunk contest? Or bringing a ring to Cleveland?

[D.J.]

Ryan Leaf was drafted number 2, there have been tons of number 1 failures.

Eg. David carr, Tim Couch, etc.


Who lost his starting job to Kelly Holcomb of all people. :facepalm :oldlol:

[russwest0]

Just like he's entering the slam dunk contest? Or bringing a ring to Cleveland?

Or going to become the NBAPA president?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[OldSkoolball#52]

Pauk, what happens when Lebron runs into this guy?

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/2013/09/tex-hawks-gal-21-306x428.jpg


Watt is a defensive tackle you bozo. The only positions that run into him are runningback and quarterback.

Do you know how football works??