Where do you rank Melo?

[Iceman#44]

Ok, as we know, ESPN made Melo #15 in current NBA rankings.

IMO, they are nuts. Dont know what you guys think, but no way there are 14 guys better than Melo in the NBA right now.

WTF are they talking about? Anthony is coming from maybe his better overall season, winning his 1st scoring title with 28.7 ppg + 6.9 reb, Nba all 2nd team and 3RD place in MVP Race.

And they say Melo in #15? :facepalm :facepalm :no: :biggums:


For me, Carmelo Anthony is a TOP 5 right now. Where do you rank Melo?

[The JKidd Kid]

Ok, as we know, ESPN made Melo #15 in current NBA rankings.

IMO, they are nuts. Dont know what you guys think, but no way there are 14 guys better than Melo in the NBA right now.

WTF are they talking about? Anthony is coming from maybe his better overall season, winning his 1st scoring title with 28.7 ppg + 6.9 reb, Nba all 2nd team and 3RD place in MVP Race.

And they say Melo in #15? :facepalm :facepalm :no: :biggums:


For me, Carmelo Anthony is a TOP 5 right now. Where do you rank Melo?

The ESPN rankings aren't actual rankings. They purposefully put in ridiculous and controversial rankings because it gives them media attention and more people want to view their rankings.

[kshutts1]

He's in the top 10. Maybe top 8. Ahead of Harden (no D), Westbrook (injury concerns).

[bagelred]

Of course he's 14th. Paul George is clearly a superior player who everyone would take over Melo.

















:yaohappy:

[niko]

The ESPN rankings aren't actual rankings. They purposefully put in ridiculous and controversial rankings because it gives them media attention and more people want to view their rankings.

Last week they spent time analyzing why the Knicks were only estimated at 37 wins and how stupid that was. Note that ESPN was the one making the prediction. So they were analyzing why their own prediction was bad.

[#number6ix#]

Top 4

[j3lademaster]

Of course he's 14th. Paul George is clearly a superior player who everyone would take over Melo.

















:yaohappy:To be fair, I'd take George over Melo due to age difference.

[Fresh Kid]

hes in tha top 2.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Over Durant.

[iDunk]

Top 5 easily.

[Human Error]

As a Heat fan, I would not take him over Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Howard, CP3, Durant, Harden, Dwill3, George, Hibbert, DRose, Noah, Irving, Nowitki, Drummond, Monroe, Steph Curry, Griffin, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Garnett, Aldridge etc so he does not belong to my to 20 and I have zero problem with that.

[Snoop_Cat]

As a Heat fan, I would not take him over Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Howard, CP3, Durant, Harden, Dwill3, George, Hibbert, DRose, Noah, Irving, Nowitki, Drummond, Monroe, Steph Curry, Griffin, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Garnett, Aldridge etc so he does not belong to my to 20 and I have zero problem with that.

Lol.

[Iceman#44]

As a Heat fan, I would not take him over Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Howard, CP3, Durant, Harden, Dwill3, George, Hibbert, DRose, Noah, Irving, Nowitki, Drummond, Monroe, Steph Curry, Griffin, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Garnett, Aldridge etc so he does not belong to my to 20 and I have zero problem with that.


:biggums: :biggums: :facepalm :facepalm

[niko]

As a Heat fan, I would not take him over Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Howard, CP3, Durant, Harden, Dwill3, George, Hibbert, DRose, Noah, Irving, Nowitki, Drummond, Monroe, Steph Curry, Griffin, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Garnett, Aldridge etc so he does not belong to my to 20 and I have zero problem with that.
This is asinine. If you honestly believe this you're just a moron.

[plowking]

A great player, that has the ability to be the best on the court on any given night? Is that a good enough answer?

[HurricaneKid]

Carmelo Anthony is probably the best Iso player in the NBA. He might be the best 1-on-1 player in the world as well. And he is certainly an offensive weapon like few others. But once you start looking at his effect on games (+/-, Adj +/-, RAPM) you recognize he really doesn't have the impact that his offensive skills suggest.

He has played in the NBA for 8 years. His first three, despite solid statistical contributions, were essentially a wash: The Nuggets were almost the exact same team with him on the bench as with him on the floor (his RAPM were -.1, .1, .2). While he has improved, its not by as much as people think, and he is STILL a defensive liability.

Most consider last year his best season. He ranked 52nd in RAPM. His career best is 42nd. The painful truth is he gets the tough baskets. But tough baskets are inefficient. Being the best Iso player is akin to being the prettiest pig. Its simply not the way winning basketball is played.

[chazzy]

When did Jeff hire a bot?

[Real Men Wear Green]

An elite scorer. Only third-best at his position but the two best players in the league are at his position.

[I<3NBA]

below Jason Terry

[KobesFinger]

Lower end top tier star.

Top tier stars are LeBron, KD, Rose, CP3, Kobe, Dwight, Melo, Westbrook, Kyrie, Wade, not in that order. He's not and never has been the best scorer, and scoring is all he does well

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I'd say probably the lower end of the top 10, arguably just outside.

And RAPM? Seriously? All you gotta do is watch his game. He's a one-dimensional volume scorer.

[Flash31]

He's in the top 10. Maybe top 8. Ahead of Harden (no D), Westbrook (injury concerns).

In top 10 but Carmelo dont play D either,though hes way better than Harden and shoots better

Clear rankings
1)LeBron
rest in any order rest 9

Durant,CP3,Dwight,Rose
Kobe,Wade,Melo,Duncan,T Parker

then outside top 10 you got
M Gasol,Harden,Bosh,Westbrook,Curry in any order

then other 10 to round out 25

Irving,Rondo,Blake,LA,Noah,George,Deron,
B Lopez,Love,Dirk

[Flash31]

He's in the top 10. Maybe top 8. Ahead of Harden (no D), Westbrook (injury concerns).

In top 10 but Carmelo dont play D either,though hes way better than Harden and shoots better

Clear rankings
1)LeBron
rest in any order rest 9

Durant,CP3,Dwight,Rose
Kobe,Wade,Melo,Duncan,T Parker

then outside top 10 you got
M Gasol,Harden,Bosh,Westbrook,Curry in any order

then other 10 to round out 25

Irving,Rondo,Blake,LA,Noah,George,Deron,
B Lopez,Love,Dirk

[Flash31]

He's in the top 10. Maybe top 8. Ahead of Harden (no D), Westbrook (injury concerns).

In top 10 but Carmelo dont play D either,though hes way better than Harden and shoots better

Clear rankings
1)LeBron
rest in any order rest 9

Durant,CP3,Dwight,Rose
Kobe,Wade,Melo,Duncan,T Parker

then outside top 10 you got
M Gasol,Harden,Bosh,Westbrook,Curry in any order

then other 10 to round out 25

Irving,Rondo,Blake,LA,Noah,George,Deron,
B Lopez,Love,Dirk

[Flash31]

He's in the top 10. Maybe top 8. Ahead of Harden (no D), Westbrook (injury concerns).

In top 10 but Carmelo dont play D either,though hes way better than Harden and shoots better

Clear rankings
1)LeBron
rest in any order rest 9

Durant,CP3,Dwight,Rose
Kobe,Wade,Melo,Duncan,T Parker

then outside top 10 you got
M Gasol,Harden,Bosh,Westbrook,Curry in any order

then other 10 to round out 25

Irving,Rondo,Blake,LA,Noah,George,Deron,
B Lopez,Love,Dirk

[Sakkreth]

I don't :coleman:

[DStebb716]

LeBron
Durant
Dwight
Rose
Melo
Harden
Kobe
Westbrook
Wade
Love

[HurricaneKid]

I'd say probably the lower end of the top 10, arguably just outside.

And RAPM? Seriously? All you gotta do is watch his game. He's a one-dimensional volume scorer.

Whats wrong with RAPM?

If you knew everything RAPM was telling you how do you have him in the top 10?

[secund2nun]

Not top 15. The guy is overrated. His style of play is not winning bball, especially at his max salary. He is the typical player that is overrated these days- relatively inefficient scoring, no defense, ball hog and it's not like he is an absolute beast on rebounding to make it up- he is merely a good rebounder for his position. Players in this mold are glorified these days because of the media.

[NumberSix]

I've always said Melo isn't a top 10 current player. People say I'm trolling, but I'm not. I stick with my stance that he's on the same tier as Boozer and Griffin.

[NumberSix]

Whats wrong with RAPM?

If you knew everything RAPM was telling you how do you have him in the top 10?
Who is "RAPM"? I know it's probably super obvious, but it's not ringing any bells.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Whats wrong with RAPM?

If you knew everything RAPM was telling you how do you have him in the top 10?

I also said he's arguably just outside. RAPM is a joke, just like most of these adjusted stats that were originally TEAM stats.

No order:

LeBron
Durant
CP3
Wade
Kobe
Rose
Harden
Howard
Westbrook
Irving/M. Gasol

[NumberSix]

I also said he's arguably just outside. RAPM is a joke, just like most of these adjusted stats that were originally TEAM stats.

No order:

LeBron
Durant
CP3
Wade
Kobe
Rose
Harden
Howard
Westbrook
Irving/M. Gasol
Lol. Ooooohhhhh.:hammerhead:

I was like "who the hell is RAPM"?:roll:

[Dro]

Carmelo Anthony is probably the best Iso player in the NBA. He might be the best 1-on-1 player in the world as well. And he is certainly an offensive weapon like few others. But once you start looking at his effect on games (+/-, Adj +/-, RAPM) you recognize he really doesn't have the impact that his offensive skills suggest.

He has played in the NBA for 8 years. His first three, despite solid statistical contributions, were essentially a wash: The Nuggets were almost the exact same team with him on the bench as with him on the floor (his RAPM were -.1, .1, .2). While he has improved, its not by as much as people think, and he is STILL a defensive liability.

Most consider last year his best season. He ranked 52nd in RAPM. His career best is 42nd. The painful truth is he gets the tough baskets. But tough baskets are inefficient. Being the best Iso player is akin to being the prettiest pig. Its simply not the way winning basketball is played.
Great post. Now maybe people can stop whining about his ranking. There's a difference between great stats and playing WINNING basketball so people shouldn't get their panties in a bunch because somebody chooses to takes another player(who has more impact on WINNING) over him...If I just want nice stats, Ill go play NBA 2K...

[aj1987]

LeBron
Durant
Dwight
Rose
Melo
Harden
Kobe
Westbrook
Wade
Love
:oldlol:

[Shep]

11th

[Legends66NBA7]

I'd say he probably falls Top 4-10 range, going off last season and playoffs. Should remain there throughout this season too.

[NumberSix]

I'd put him around 13th.

[KG215]

In top 10 but Carmelo dont play D either,though hes way better than Harden and shoots better

Clear rankings
1)LeBron

rest in any order rest 9

Durant,CP3,Dwight,Rose
Kobe,Wade,Melo,Duncan,T Parker

then outside top 10 you got
M Gasol,Harden,Bosh,Westbrook,Curry in any order

then other 10 to round out 25

Irving,Rondo,Blake,LA,Noah,George,Deron,
B Lopez,Love,Dirk
You can't just throw those 9 in a group and say "rest in any order". There's some clear tiers and distinctions in that group.

As for Melo, I think after LeBron, Durant, and CP3 he's one of 5-7 guys right now who can legitimately be the 4th best player in the NBA over the course of the season. I mean he can even be the best for a 1-2 week stretch as we saw last year, but over the course of the season I think those are the only 3 players who will clearly prove to be better at this point. Someone may emerge this year, and Melo may even take a step back or something, so I'm mostly basing this on last year.

[The JKidd Kid]

In no order when healthy:

Top Tier:
Lebron
Durant

2nd Tier:
Dwight
CP3
Westbrook
Harden
Melo
Duncan
Wade
Williams
Rose
Love

3rd Tier:
Curry
George
Rondo
Parker

Gasol, Holiday, Noah etc. are just glorified role players.

Kyrie, Lopez, Lawson etc. are too one dimensional to make the list.

Wall, Davis etc. haven't proven anything and are only ranked highly based off their potential.

[KyleKong]

Based off of last season and how he will produce for his team this season...

No way he is not in the top 5.

[CHi1PriDe]

He went 10th overall in my draft which sounds about right

[TheMarkMadsen]

He was a top 4 player last year and IMO was the best player for a minute at the beginning of the season.

[EnoughSaid]

Top 10 IMO:
1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. CP3
4. Kobe
5. Wade
6. Howard
7. Westbrook
8. Rose
9. Melo
10. Harden

[JellyBean]

Among current players, Melo is top 3; Lebron, Durant,and Carmelo

[Fudge]

Lebron
Durant
Paul
Dwight
Westbrook
Rose
Harden
Wade
Melo
Dirk
Curry

[SamuraiSWISH]

He's top ten player:

LeBron
Paul
Rose
Kobe
Dwight
Wade
Durant
Melo
Westbrook
Harden

[Doranku]

He's top ten player:

LeBron
Paul
Rose
Kobe
Dwight
Wade
Durant
Melo
Westbrook
Harden
Is that in order? :wtf:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Is that in order? :wtf:
Not necessarily. What's got your jimmies in a twist anyway? Speak your mind, son.

[kshutts1]

Thought more about an actual order..

Lebron
Durant
Paul
Howard
Wade (he gets either over- or under-rated. I think I am in the "over")
Rose
Melo
Westbrook (would be higher except for injury)
Harden
George

Just missing the cut, in no order: Dirk, Gasol, Parker, Love, Bosh

[Harison]

Definitely Top10, borderline Top5.