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9erempiree
10-21-2013, 02:05 PM
I was at the bars last night to watch football and the argument came up about a Super Bowl win or a NBA Championship. I told everyone the NBA championship was the hardest to obtain and others said it was the Super Bowl. While the Super Bowl is one game and the NBA title is a series.

As the evening went on they proceeded to say some nasty things to me and started to ramble about Michael Jordan is the greatest ever. Which I agreed because I didn't want to hear their incoherent ramblings about a player that doesn't play anymore.

I finally shut them up when I said......

"If a NBA title is so easily obtainable than explain why the so-called best player in the game had to join other all-stars to get his rings?"

They never bothered me after.

PWNED.

SamuraiSWISH
10-21-2013, 02:08 PM
You went to the bar by yourself haha

NumberSix
10-21-2013, 02:08 PM
Pretty mediocre teams wins the super bowl and the world series from time to time.

NumberSix
10-21-2013, 02:10 PM
You went to the bar by yourself haha

Random poster: "Michael Jordan had a small dick"

SamuraiSNITCH: "N..nnn....n.. no he doesn't. :cry: "

2LeTTeRS
10-21-2013, 02:12 PM
Shout-out to the mods here. I don't think I could show restraint when 95% of the threads here are repetitive troll-fests. I salute you guys.

SamuraiSWISH
10-21-2013, 02:13 PM
Random poster: "Michael Jordan had a small dick"

SamuraiSNITCH: "N..nnn....n.. no he doesn't. :cry: "
Damn right

:applause:

9erempiree
10-21-2013, 02:14 PM
MJ wasn't playing with a 7 footer that's for sure.

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nathanjizzle
10-21-2013, 02:15 PM
what is their 30 players on a football team playing in a league ofr 16 teams? in the nba their is only 12 players a team competing against 30 other teams. lets not mention how hard it is to make the nba vs the nfl.

DukeDelonte13
10-21-2013, 02:15 PM
I'd say its by far the most difficult.

kNicKz
10-21-2013, 02:17 PM
MJ wasn't playing with a 7 footer that's for sure.

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NumberSix
10-21-2013, 02:18 PM
MJ wasn't playing with a 7 footer that's for sure.

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Da **** is dis shit doe? :confusedshrug:

9erempiree
10-21-2013, 02:18 PM
MJ wasn't playing with a 7 footer that's for sure.


http://nballin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/n6wbgg.gif

NumberSix
10-21-2013, 02:19 PM
what is their 30 players on a football team playing in a league ofr 16 teams? in the nba their is only 12 players a team competing against 30 other teams. lets not mention how hard it is to make the nba vs the nfl.
53 players, 32 teams.

9erempiree
10-21-2013, 02:19 PM
Da **** is dis shit doe? :confusedshrug:

big balls text.

Dro
10-21-2013, 02:19 PM
Shout-out to the mods here. I don't think I could show restraint when 95% of the threads here are repetitive troll-fests. I salute you guys.
This...

tmacattack33
10-21-2013, 02:21 PM
I was at the bars last night to watch football and the argument came up about a Super Bowl win or a NBA Championship. I told everyone the NBA championship was the hardest to obtain and others said it was the Super Bowl. While the Super Bowl is one game and the NBA title is a series.

As the evening went on they proceeded to say some nasty things to me and started to ramble about Michael Jordan is the greatest ever. Which I agreed because I didn't want to hear their incoherent ramblings about a player that doesn't play anymore.

I finally shut them up when I said......

"If a NBA title is so easily obtainable than explain why the so-called best player in the game had to join other all-stars to get his rings?"

They never bothered me after.

PWNED.

This is stupid as f*kk, as you probably never even had this conversation and just wanted to make a thread somehow mentioning the fact that Lebron joined other all-stars, but anyway...

Winning in football is more flukey than winning in basketball. You can say that it is easier then since a marginal team can fluke its way into winning a Super Bowl.

But in basketball, it's ridiculously rare for an average team to even come close to the championship. Like the last time a 7th or 8th seed went to the Finals was the Knicks in 1999. But in football many 5th and 6th seeds reach the Super Bowl.

imdaman99
10-21-2013, 02:22 PM
http://nballin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/n6wbgg.gif
Lakers lost that game. Roger Mason hit a buzzer beater :lol

9erempiree
10-21-2013, 02:22 PM
what is their 30 players on a football team playing in a league ofr 16 teams? in the nba their is only 12 players a team competing against 30 other teams. lets not mention how hard it is to make the nba vs the nfl.

NBA is definitely tougher.

When Lebron has to join other all-stars with a loaded team, you know it's hard to win a ring.

NumberSix
10-21-2013, 02:24 PM
This is stupid as f*kk, as you probably never even had this conversation and just wanted to make a thread somehow mentioning the fact that Lebron joined other all-stars, but anyway...

Winning in football is more flukey than winning in basketball. You can say that it is easier then since a marginal team can fluke its way into winning a Super Bowl.

But in basketball, it's ridiculously rare for an average team to even come close to the championship. Like the last time a 7th or 8th seed went to the Finals was the Knicks in 1999. But in football many 5th and 6th seeds reach the Super Bowl.
Uhhhh, not only did he not have this convo, he didn't go to this bar. lol.

kNicKz
10-21-2013, 02:26 PM
OP isn't old enough to drink

NumberSix
10-21-2013, 02:27 PM
NBA is definitely tougher.

When Lebron has to join other all-stars with a loaded team, you know it's hard to win a ring.
This.

When Kobe Bryant has to join Dwight Howard, Steve Nash & Pau Gasol just to barley get a 7 seed, you know it's tough to win in the NBA.

kNicKz
10-21-2013, 02:34 PM
This.

When Kobe Bryant has to join Dwight Howard, Steve Nash & Pau Gasol just to barley get a 7 seed, you know it's tough to win in the NBA.

http://static.tumblr.com/y1qwjm2/M3xm8cds1/sidebar-gif-loki-like-burn-ooh.gif

Trollsmasher
10-21-2013, 02:34 PM
That was a one longass link, 9emp.

Myth
10-21-2013, 02:41 PM
I'd say that in comparison to NFL, it is the easiest to win if you have the best team because you have 7 games each series to prove you are the best and can bounce back from an off game. NFL is easier to win if you are not the best team because 1 fluke game can get rid of the toughest competition.

Wally450
10-21-2013, 02:54 PM
In the NFL you have to be on your best game the day of the Super Bowl. The NBA Finals you have 4-7 games to be good, so you can slack a little.

2007 Patriots. 18-0. Lost the Super Bowl. Were they the better team that day? No. Were they the better team overall. Yes.

HurricaneKid
10-21-2013, 03:35 PM
Last year a 10-6 team won the Super Bowl. I can count with one finger the number of NBA titles in my lifetime won with a winning% that bad. Two years ago the Giants won the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record and was OUTSCORED on the season.

That doesn't happen in the NBA. You have to be the best team to win. At the very least one of the top few and catch some breaks.

Within the last 10 years an 83-79 team won the World series and a 9-7 team won the SB. Those sports do themselves a disservice when they ask for bigger playoff pools and allow lesser teams to win their championships.

Mr Exlax
10-21-2013, 03:43 PM
In the NFL you have to be on your best game the day of the Super Bowl. The NBA Finals you have 4-7 games to be good, so you can slack a little.

2007 Patriots. 18-0. Lost the Super Bowl. Were they the better team that day? No. Were they the better team overall. Yes.

This :rockon:

Euroleague
10-21-2013, 03:57 PM
The NBA title is much easier to win if you get on the right team. However, it's harder to win in terms of the number of roster spots that are available.

But if you factor in that the NFL is a league with parity and the NBA is probably the league with the least parity of any major pro sports league on the planet.......

it's how you look at it then.

Incredibly EASY to win the NBA title, IF you simply get on the right team. But then again, almost impossible to win it, if you never play in LA or Boston or whatever.

Akhenaten
10-21-2013, 04:01 PM
Lakers lost that game. Roger Mason hit a buzzer beater :lol

:roll: :roll:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/56_kobe_i_fail.gif

CavaliersFTW
10-21-2013, 04:35 PM
OP which drinks did you get at the bar, glass of chocolate milk? a pepsi? pink lemonade? Seeing as how you were exposed as a 19 year old not more than 1 week ago. You trying to re-establish yourself as an 'old' poster this soon already? People aren't going to forget that quickly :oldlol:

9erempiree
10-21-2013, 04:46 PM
OP which drinks did you get at the bar, glass of chocolate milk? a pepsi? pink lemonade? Seeing as how you were exposed as a 19 year old not more than 1 week ago. You trying to re-establish yourself as an 'old' poster this soon already? People aren't going to forget that quickly :oldlol:

I wish I was 19 again, that was a long time ago.

If I was 19 again, I would probably be laughing and bragging to my teammates how grown @ss men are emotionally invested in me.

I would have been a lawyer considering if I was 19 and owning adults in discussions and debates.

I was a pretty cocky kid.

Fresh Kid
10-21-2013, 04:50 PM
Damn right

:applause:
what tha hell:oldlol:

CelticBaller
10-21-2013, 04:51 PM
:roll: :roll:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/56_kobe_i_fail.gif
:oldlol:

GrapeApe
10-21-2013, 05:16 PM
As others have alluded to, the NBA produces the most "legit" champion. In football, baseball, and hockey it's all about being hot at the right time.

DStebb716
10-21-2013, 05:24 PM
The Stanley Cup is the hardest. Just about any pundit in any sport will admit that the Stanley Cup is the hardest championship to win.

The NFL championship road is often paved with bye weeks and weak divisions. Once a week (football can't be done any other way, but still worth noting).

LEGITIMATE salary cap. You can't load your team and then just pay a luxury tax. You have to form your team within the STRICT guidelines of a salary cap. NBA- cap with luxury cap if you go over. This evens the playing field in the NHL. Small market teams/non-hockey towns can compete.

TheMilkyBarKid
10-21-2013, 05:48 PM
I wish I was 19 again, that was a long time ago.

If I was 19 again, I would probably be laughing and bragging to my teammates how grown @ss men are emotionally invested in me.

I would have been a lawyer considering if I was 19 and owning adults in discussions and debates.

I was a pretty cocky kid.
I don't care if you're 19 or 39, you're a waste of oxygen.
And that's not me getting emotionally invested in you, but it did kill about 20 seconds of my trip to college.

ThickassGlasses
10-21-2013, 07:09 PM
It depends on how you define harder to win. Is it harder to win if more teams have the ability to do so? Or do you define harder to win as only the best teams can win?


I would say the Super Bowl is harder to win because you can't lose a game in the playoffs so you have to be playing at your peak for every game. Plus, rarely teams with major glaring weaknesses win the Super Bowl whereas in the NBA plenty of teams have won without a complete team.


Another thing worth noting, is that a single player can control the outcome of a NBA game easier than a NFL game.

zoom17
10-21-2013, 07:49 PM
:roll: :roll:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/56_kobe_i_fail.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll:

HeatFanSince88
10-21-2013, 07:58 PM
It depends on how you define harder to win. Is it harder to win if more teams have the ability to do so? Or do you define harder to win as only the best teams can win?


I would say the Super Bowl is harder to win because you can't lose a game in the playoffs so you have to be playing at your peak for every game. Plus, rarely teams with major glaring weaknesses win the Super Bowl whereas in the NBA plenty of teams have won without a complete team.


Another thing worth noting, is that a single player can control the outcome of a NBA game easier than a NFL game.

http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img19826834.jpg

ispin69
10-21-2013, 08:37 PM
Didn't bother read thread.

1) You stopped debating them about Jordan because you didn't want to hear it (so did you lose if you had no answer?). They stopped debating you because they didn't want to hear you ramble/bitch about Lebron.

B-b-but they had no answer so I must have won. :oldlol:

2) Players teaming up in a team sport? NEVER BEEN DUN BEFO :facepalm

jstern
10-21-2013, 09:21 PM
Didn't OP say that he started watching basketball after Jordan Wizard's left. I doubt any bars is going to be letting him in. Isn't he like 15 years old?

CavaliersFTW
10-21-2013, 09:25 PM
Didn't OP say that he started watching basketball after Jordan Wizard's left. I doubt any bars is going to be letting him in. Isn't he like 15 years old?
No, your thinking of Kenneth Griffin who is just as bad a poster, OP is even younger still, was actually born in 1994 and has admitted he didn't start watching basketball until the middle of Kobe's 2nd title run.

AintNoSunshine
10-21-2013, 09:30 PM
Only if you're riding the coattail of greats like Shaq and Lebron and a Gasol/Odom/Bynum front court

jstern
10-21-2013, 09:35 PM
It all depends on how you're looking at it. I say it's harder to win an NBA championship in the sense that you're giving it your all in multiple games, traveling back and forth.

In terms of the elite teams, forgetting about multiple games, the best teams have the better chance of winning in the NBA. While in terms of mediocre teams, the NFL has teams that can sneak in and win it all, while they might not have if it was a series. (So if you're looking it in terms of an average team, it's harder in the NBA. If you're looking at it in terms of elite teams, it's harder in the NFL.)

The Knicks team that when to the Finals in 99, they probably would have had a better seed if they played 82 games.

But overall, I say it's harder in the NBA because it just take more out of you. And you don't get two weeks off to have it all settle in. It's more of a war.


No, your thinking of Kenneth Griffin who is just as bad a poster, OP is even younger still, was actually born in 1994 and has admitted he didn't start watching basketball until the middle of Kobe's 2nd title run.

Actually, Kenneth Griffin is around 30 years old, he just didn't start watching the NBA until he was around 22.

It's A VC3!!!
10-21-2013, 09:44 PM
idk about that but repeating a championship win is easier than any other sport. nba is only league where one team can win 2-4 straight championships. no other league offers that possibility. i mean the giants won the super bowl two years ago, didn't make the playoff the year after and are the worst team in the NFL two years later. that is rare in the nba.

TheBigVeto
10-21-2013, 09:59 PM
I was at the bars last night to watch football and the argument came up about a Super Bowl win or a NBA Championship. I told everyone the NBA championship was the hardest to obtain and others said it was the Super Bowl. While the Super Bowl is one game and the NBA title is a series.

As the evening went on they proceeded to say some nasty things to me and started to ramble about Michael Jordan is the greatest ever. Which I agreed because I didn't want to hear their incoherent ramblings about a player that doesn't play anymore.

I finally shut them up when I said......

"If a NBA title is so easily obtainable than explain why the so-called best player in the game had to join other all-stars to get his rings?"

They never bothered me after.

PWNED.

You are not even old enough to enter a bar. Fail.

KG215
10-21-2013, 10:03 PM
Yes...if you get on the right team. The NBA is the only pro sports league (NFL, MLB, maybe NHL(?) -- don't really know enough about the NHL) where the best teams routinely make deep playoff runs. Even in baseball, where they play best-of-seven series (and one best-of-five) crazy things happen. I mean baseball is a 162 game season sport, where players get scorching hot or go ice cold for 1-3 week stretches all the time, and it happens sometimes in the playoffs. You'll have 7-10 teams throughout the year that, at some point, look like they could be "that team" in October who gets hot and at the right time and unexpectedly makes and/or wins the World Series. This year, where the teams with the two best records in baseball make the World Series, has been pretty rare lately.

And of course the single elimination format of the NFL playoffs make it very unpredictable. Your team has one of those games where some iffy calls don't go their way, or a tipped pass or two lead to an INT, or normally good receivers uncharacteristically drop passes, and you're done. There's not 3-6 other games to correct one uncharacteristic game. Generally if you have an elite defense with a solid QB or one of the few truly elite QB's you're in good shape, but even then something like last year can happen.


But the NBA? I mean by the All-Star break or so you have a pretty good idea what 2-4 teams have a legitimate shot at winning the championship. Sure, there might be a 1994 Nuggets or 1999 Knicks scenario every so often, but usually the best teams make deep playoff runs, and one of the 1-3 best teams throughout the regular season wins the championship.

DStebb716
10-21-2013, 10:46 PM
http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img19826834.jpg

How many championships has he won?

ripthekik
10-21-2013, 11:27 PM
it wasn't. Until Lebron cheapened it and devalue the worth of a ring. His rings are worth about the same as WNBA rings.

I<3NBA
10-22-2013, 02:32 AM
the hardest definitely has to be the UEFA Champions league. you have to win your league cup, then you have to go through a round of 16 (against other league cup champions), a quarterfinals, a semis, and then a 2 leg finals.