View Full Version : The best player in the world is ready to do it again.
305Baller
10-24-2013, 09:37 PM
Last year the Heat needed a little luck and a lot of skill to get passed the Spurs. The series was legendary basketball played at the highest level. The move to acquire Ray Allen solidified a second ship.
Now with Beasley , Oden and Mason added the Heat gain a little more versatility and a lot of potential.
But lets not understate the fact that Miami still has the best player in the world.
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“Winning, that’s my only concern right now, winning,” James said. “I want to put a third ring on the guys that have two. I want to put a first ring on the guys that don’t have any and I want to put a fourth on [Udonis Haslem] and D-Wade. So, that’s my goal.”
Yet, there are rumors that this is the end of his run in Miami...
The concept has even been made part of the NBA2k 14 videogame experience (with James signing off on the concept).
"When that bridge comes, I’ll cross it with my family,” James said. “And we’re going to make the right choice. We’ve been in this position before, I’ve been in this position before, and I’ll be excited about it, but we’ll see what happens.”
The success of the Heat largely depends on it's supporting cogs:
Dwyane Wade is focused on being healthy for the entire run this year. His 2nd banana to James makes the Heat that much harder to beat.
"If you ask me why I'm picking Miami to win everything this year, I think it's because I can't imagine a scenario in which Wade doesn't give LeBron just enough help to make us all look stupid. It has happened too many times." - Grantland
“Ideally I would like to play every game that we can play, so that’s my goal,” Wade said. “But when I go into the season and whether it’s practice or other things, I’m just going to be smart about it. Our coaches are very open to what I feel I need from my body from day to day.”
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Chris Bosh will be the under-appreciated 3rd cog that keeps the defense honest. Ray Allen will be the perimeter genius. Battier will be instrumental as will Haslem and Andersen. Everyone will play a part.
The engine remains the same.
The supporting players have been expertly chosen by Riley and the machine is lubed up by Spo's motivational tactics.
Can they do it one more time? Let's get ready to rumbleeeeeee!!!
poido123
10-24-2013, 09:43 PM
Last year the Heat needed a little luck and a lot of skill to get passed the Spurs. The series was legendary basketball played at the highest level. The move to acquire Ray Allen solidified a second ship.
Now with Beasley , Oden and Mason added, the Heat gain a little more versatility and a lot of potential.
But lets not understate the fact that Miami still has the best player in the world.
“Winning, that’s my only concern right now, winning,” James said. “I want to put a third ring on the guys that have two. I want to put a first ring on the guys that don’t have any and I want to put a fourth on [Udonis Haslem] and D-Wade. So, that’s my goal.”
Yet, there are rumors that this is the end of his run in Miami...
The concept has even been made part of the NBA2k 14 videogame experience (with James signing off on the concept).
"When that bridge comes, I’ll cross it with my family,” James said. “And we’re going to make the right choice. We’ve been in this position before, I’ve been in this position before, and I’ll be excited about it, but we’ll see what happens.”
The success of the Heat largely depends on it's supporting cogs:
Dwyane Wade is focused on being healthy for the entire run this year. His 2nd banana to James makes the Heat that much harder to beat.
"If you ask me why I'm picking Miami to win everything this year, I think it's because I can't imagine a scenario in which Wade doesn't give LeBron just enough help to make us all look stupid. It has happened too many times." - Grantand
“Ideally I would like to play every game that we can play, so that’s my goal,” Wade said. “But when I go into the season and whether it’s practice or other things, I’m just going to be smart about it. Our coaches are very open to what I feel I need from my body from day to day.”
http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/c411b782258611e3829822000a9f1487_7.jpg
Chris Bosh will be the under-appreciated 3rd cog that keeps the defense honest. Ray Allen will be the perimeter genius. Battier will be instrumental as will Haslem and Andersen. Everyone will play a part.
The engine remains the same.
The supporting players have been expertly chosen by Riley and the machine is lubed up by Spo's motivational tactics.
Can they do it one more time? Let's get ready to rumbleeeeeee!!!
Was that written on a roll of toilet paper? :oldlol:
If Lebron wrote that down, he seriously has an insecurity complex.
305Baller
10-24-2013, 09:44 PM
Was that written on a roll of toilet paper? :oldlol:
If Lebron seriously wrote that down, he seriously has an insecurity complex.
Wow, where have you been all summer? That was the famous "Wade tweet pic".
Legends66NBA7
10-24-2013, 09:45 PM
Was that written on a roll of toilet paper? :oldlol:
If Lebron wrote that down, he seriously has an insecurity complex.
That was Dwyane Wade.
The thread it was discussed in:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312926
Jameerthefear
10-24-2013, 09:45 PM
Was that written on a roll of toilet paper? :oldlol:
If Lebron wrote that down, he seriously has an insecurity complex.
Wade did lol
Legends66NBA7
10-24-2013, 09:48 PM
The Heat most likely will also have the best team because of it's relatively young roster and experience together with it's main core/key role players from the championship team. There aren't many team that will throw them off. Any team out there that might surprise them ?
poido123
10-24-2013, 09:48 PM
That was Dwyane Wade.
The thread it was discussed in:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312926
:facepalm I don't keep up with "tweets" these days...Or ever.
Fail on my part, I thought it was Lebron for sure :oldlol:
HomieWeMajor
10-24-2013, 09:50 PM
Heat over Clippers in 6
Book it.
305Baller
10-24-2013, 09:51 PM
The Heat most likely will also have the best team because of it's relatively young roster and experience together with it's main core/key role players from the championship team. There aren't many team that will throw them off. Any team out there that might surprise them ?
In the east:
Bulls, Nets, Pacers.
In the west:
Warriors, Houston, Clippers... Spurs maybe.
Legends66NBA7
10-24-2013, 09:59 PM
In the east:
Bulls, Nets, Pacers.
In the west:
Warriors, Houston, Clippers... Spurs maybe.
The one's in the east are the best chances to upset the Heat, but who will be a surprise to upset them ? Maybe I'm wording the question weird...
From what I've seen, the Pacers (biggest threat in the east) followed by the Nets (very deep, age and health are in question) and then Bulls (deep, best coach of the 3, but injury riddled too) are the main 3 teams to knock them off from the east, but who would upset them outside of that ? New York ? Detroit ? Cleveland ?
My pick would be Detroit, but what holds them back is that their still relatively young and inexperienced squad, but have a lot of talent and athleticism. Might have the best front court in the game if Andre Drummond makes major strides this year.
Out West, I think all those team could do it too. Not really much of surprise team there.
305Baller
10-24-2013, 10:02 PM
The one's in the east are the best chances to upset the Heat, but who will be a surprise to upset them ? Maybe I'm wording the question weird...
From what I've seen, the Pacers (biggest threat in the east) followed by the Nets (very deep, age and health are in question) and then Bulls (deep, best coach of the 3, but injury riddled too) are the main 3 teams to knock them off from the east, but who would upset them outside of that ? New York ? Detroit ? Cleveland ?
My pick would be Detroit, but what holds them back is that their still relatively young and inexperienced squad, but have a lot of talent and athleticism. Might have the best front court in the game if Andre Drummond makes major strides this year.
Out West, I think all those team could do it too. Not really much of surprise team there.
Detroit looks good on paper, I will be keeping an eye out. The Cavs, with Bynum, will be dangerous...if these teams get hot they might make some noise. If the Heat are struggling at the end of the season with chemistry or motivational problems stemming from mental fatigue anything can happen.
TylerOO
10-24-2013, 10:04 PM
Lol OP mentioned Mason like he's gonna do something for this team.
DaSeba5
10-24-2013, 10:05 PM
The one's in the east are the best chances to upset the Heat, but who will be a surprise to upset them ? Maybe I'm wording the question weird...
From what I've seen, the Pacers (biggest threat in the east) followed by the Nets (very deep, age and health are in question) and then Bulls (deep, best coach of the 3, but injury riddled too) are the main 3 teams to knock them off from the east, but who would upset them outside of that ? New York ? Detroit ? Cleveland ?
My pick would be Detroit, but what holds them back is that their still relatively young and inexperienced squad, but have a lot of talent and athleticism. Might have the best front court in the game if Andre Drummond makes major strides this year.
Out West, I think all those team could do it too. Not really much of surprise team there.
Assuming the Heat stay together next year, the Pistons could be a really scary team for Miami with more experience. They have a bright future.
uoykcuf
10-24-2013, 10:06 PM
:facepalm I don't keep up with "tweets" these days...Or ever.
Fail on my part, I thought it was Lebron for sure :oldlol:
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DaSeba5
10-24-2013, 10:07 PM
http://oi48.tinypic.com/2h6zyvm.jpg
:roll: This still cracks me up
305Baller
10-24-2013, 10:08 PM
Lol OP mentioned Mason like he's gonna do something for this team.
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poido123
10-24-2013, 10:11 PM
The one's in the east are the best chances to upset the Heat, but who will be a surprise to upset them ? Maybe I'm wording the question weird...
From what I've seen, the Pacers (biggest threat in the east) followed by the Nets (very deep, age and health are in question) and then Bulls (deep, best coach of the 3, but injury riddled too) are the main 3 teams to knock them off from the east, but who would upset them outside of that ? New York ? Detroit ? Cleveland ?
My pick would be Detroit, but what holds them back is that their still relatively young and inexperienced squad, but have a lot of talent and athleticism. Might have the best front court in the game if Andre Drummond makes major strides this year.
Out West, I think all those team could do it too. Not really much of surprise team there.
If Clippers or Golden State make the Western conference finals, they certainly matchup well against the Heat.
Golden State;
Curry vs Chalmers/Cole = Embarassment
Thompson vs Wade = Wade, but not by a long way
Iggy vs Lebron = Lebron should come out on top, but Iggy will give him fits on defense
Lee vs Bosh = Almost a wash
Bogut vs Out of condition Oden? or Birdman? = Demolition
GS bench vs Heat bench = pretty even, although Barnes is the best bench player out of the two.
Clippers;
Paul vs Chlamers/Cole = Embarassment
JJ Reddick/Crawford vs Wade = Edge to wade
Dudley/Barnes = Lebron easy
Griffin vs Bosh = Pretty close
Jordan vs Out of condition Oden/Birdman = Jordan easy
Clippers bench >> Heat bench
305Baller
10-24-2013, 10:17 PM
If Clippers or Golden State make the Western conference finals, they certainly matchup well against the Heat.
Golden State;
Curry vs Chalmers/Cole = Embarassment
Thompson vs Wade = Wade, but not by a long way
Iggy vs Lebron = Lebron should come out on top, but Iggy will give him fits on defense
Lee vs Bosh = Almost a wash
Bogut vs Out of condition Oden? or Birdman? = Demolition
GS bench vs Heat bench = pretty even, although Barnes is the best bench player out of the two.
Clippers;
Paul vs Chlamers/Cole = Embarassment
JJ Reddick/Crawford vs Wade = Edge to wade
Dudley/Barnes = Lebron easy
Griffin vs Bosh = Pretty close
Jordan vs Out of condition Oden/Birdman = Jordan easy
Clippers bench >> Heat bench
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Batman-Chin-Rub.gif
Hmm.. individually sure. But collectively perhaps not.
DaSeba5
10-24-2013, 10:26 PM
If Clippers or Golden State make the Western conference finals, they certainly matchup well against the Heat.
Golden State;
Curry vs Chalmers/Cole = Embarassment
Thompson vs Wade = Wade, but not by a long way
Iggy vs Lebron = Lebron should come out on top, but Iggy will give him fits on defense
Lee vs Bosh = Almost a wash
Bogut vs Out of condition Oden? or Birdman? = Demolition
GS bench vs Heat bench = pretty even, although Barnes is the best bench player out of the two.
Clippers;
Paul vs Chlamers/Cole = Embarassment
JJ Reddick/Crawford vs Wade = Edge to wade
Dudley/Barnes = Lebron easy
Griffin vs Bosh = Pretty close
Jordan vs Out of condition Oden/Birdman = Jordan easy
Clippers bench >> Heat bench
I would love to play the Warriors because they are perimeter oriented team and Miami's D feasts on that; plus they are a very young team with no experience. Of all the teams in the West, Warriors would be my #1 choice to play in the Finals.
Miami also has the experience advantage over the Clippers. Their starting lineup is better and the Clippers having a better bench doesn't mean as much because you play smaller rotations in the playoffs anyways. CP3 would be really tough to guard, but I can't see the Clippers beating Miami in a series.
poido123
10-24-2013, 10:27 PM
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Batman-Chin-Rub.gif
Hmm.. individually sure. But collectively perhaps not.
As it's hard to argue points based on a team collectively, I decided to go individual.
Collectively, it's hard to guage that way too because we don't know what impact Doc Rivers and the change of personnel will have with Clippers, or how much impact Iggy will have for the dubs.
Or if Oden will be actually playing? :confusedshrug:
russwest0
10-24-2013, 10:36 PM
How is LeBron better than Durant? :confusedshrug:
305Baller
10-24-2013, 10:41 PM
How is LeBron better than Durant? :confusedshrug:
see: 2012 finals.
russwest0
10-24-2013, 10:54 PM
see: 2012 finals.
Huh?
The best individual series from a player in recent memory is what KD did vs the Spurs in 2012.
Just look at what 23 year old KD did vs the Spurs and compare that to what LeBron did vs them last year at age 28...
russwest0
10-25-2013, 01:09 AM
Huh?
The best individual series from a player in recent memory is what KD did vs the Spurs in 2012.
Just look at what 23 year old KD did vs the Spurs and compare that to what LeBron did vs them last year at age 28...
I like how this shut all of the LeBron dickriders up
Oh whats that, another player with a level of play equal to or greater than LeBron? Now lets just claim "rings" now that he's on one of the most stacked supporting casts ever
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Was that written on a roll of toilet paper? :oldlol:
If Lebron wrote that down, he seriously has an insecurity complex.
It happens. :oldlol:
I like how this shut all of the LeBron dickriders up
Oh whats that, another player with a level of play equal to or greater than LeBron? Now lets just claim "rings" now that he's on one of the most stacked supporting casts ever
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
You need a new material man, you're redundant. Its sleep inducing.
plowking
10-25-2013, 01:17 AM
I'd love for the Heat to get the Warriors in the finals. We'd demolish them in 4 games. Wade and Bron could both probably average 30+ that series.
russwest0
10-25-2013, 01:37 AM
You need a new material man, you're redundant. Its sleep inducing.
Oh what do you know, no actual comeback whatsoever.
Just the typical ad hominem you'd expect when bringing logic to a debate vs LeBron stans
HoopsFanNumero1
10-25-2013, 01:50 AM
Oh what do you know, no actual comeback whatsoever.
Just the typical ad hominem you'd expect when bringing logic to a debate vs LeBron stans
Don't you have something to do, like tipping cows?
poido123
10-25-2013, 01:50 AM
I'd love for the Heat to get the Warriors in the finals. We'd demolish them in 4 games. Wade and Bron could both probably average 30+ that series.
So Chalmers will be able to stop Curry's wet jumper? A guy who can launch a shot wherever and whenever he wants?
Lee and Bogut would also make mince meat of the offensive and defensive rebounds, just like Chicago does. Iggy is a great man defender and can minimise Lebron's effectiveness.
Who's defending Golden States lineup? They create a lot of mismatches for Miami, viceversa not so much.
How is LeBron better than Durant? :confusedshrug:
http://www.gifday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2lmlxme.gif
PickernRoller
10-25-2013, 01:59 AM
Last year the Heat needed a little luck and a lot of skill to get passed the Spurs. The series was legendary basketball played at the highest level.
Stopped reading there.
russwest0
10-25-2013, 02:02 AM
Don't you have something to do, like tipping cows?
Instantly proving my point.
I love how no one has responded to my point which shut all of the LeBron dickriders up, instead just attacking me, only showing that you've been beat.
:oldlol:
poido123
10-25-2013, 02:02 AM
Stopped reading there.
:oldlol:
I saw two really good games (game 6 and 7) and a few half decent games...
A legendary series is a little far from the truth.
Oh what do you know, no actual comeback whatsoever.
Just the typical ad hominem you'd expect when bringing logic to a debate vs LeBron stans
I don't care, I enjoy how the guy plays. But the amount of venom and trolling the guy gets from you & your ilk is just mind boggling. Did the guy kill a member of your family or something? Is Russ actually a member of your family or for that matter Durant? Because now, I do get it.
NumberSix
10-25-2013, 02:05 AM
You're not gonna out perimeter Miami.
HoopsFanNumero1
10-25-2013, 02:19 AM
Instantly proving my point.
I love how no one has responded to my point which shut all of the LeBron dickriders up, instead just attacking me, only showing that you've been beat.
:oldlol:
Because your posts aren't worth typing a long response to. Just the fact that you think Durant is a better basketball player than Lebron is shows your intelligence level. Do you really want me to embarrass Durant by bringing up their head-to-head matchups?
poido123
10-25-2013, 02:32 AM
Because your posts aren't worth typing a long response to. Just the fact that you think Durant is a better basketball player than Lebron is shows your intelligence level. Do you really want me to embarrass Durant by bringing up their head-to-head matchups?
He is better for fantasy basketball?
:confusedshrug:
russwest0
10-25-2013, 02:35 AM
Because your posts aren't worth typing a long response to. Just the fact that you think Durant is a better basketball player than Lebron is shows your intelligence level. Do you really want me to embarrass Durant by bringing up their head-to-head matchups?
Head to head matchups prove what? Is Chalmers better than Westbrook? Scott Brooks plays Perkins everytime vs Miami and the Heat just throw LeFlop or Battier on him and it favors them so much. If LeBron was anywhere near the defender he gets the praise for being Westbrook isn't going off for 43 points in one game and Durant isn't averaging 30 PPG on 50% shooting in that series. Durant is the last reason why OKC lost that series, as opposed to LeBrons first two finals series where he legitimately played much worse than a player of his caliber should have played.
I'm still waiting to hear what series LeBron has had with Miami that is better than what Durant did vs the Spurs at age 23.
This pedestal LeBron gets placed on when his stats are hardly superior to the much younger Durant is ridiculous. Makes me wish Ray Allen would have missed that shot since niqqas act like LeBron won that ring by himself.
Then again you're the niqqa that thinks that MELO is better than Durant trying to discredit me? LMAO
HoopsFanNumero1
10-25-2013, 02:39 AM
Head to head matchups prove what? Is Chalmers better than Westbrook?
I'm still waiting to hear what series LeBron has had with Miami that is better than what Durant did vs the Spurs at age 23.
This pedestal LeBron gets placed on when his stats are hardly superior to Durant at a much younger age is ridiculous. Makes me wish Ray Allen would have missed that shot since niqqas act like LeBron won that ring by himself
These are definitely comparable, if note better:
vs. Chicago 2011
vs. Pacers 2012
vs. Celtics 2012
vs. Thuder 2012
vs. Pacers 2013
Not to mention, your comparison of Westbrook and Chalmers is utterly ridiculous. Durant and Lebron are the leaders of their teams and when Durant gets badly owned in almost all of their matchups, it should be considered.
russwest0
10-25-2013, 02:39 AM
He is better for fantasy basketball?
:confusedshrug:
How much stock do you put into defensive wins shares, defensive rating, and PER allowed?
Because KD raped LeBron in those categories last year.
DaSeba5
10-25-2013, 02:39 AM
You're not gonna out perimeter Miami.
This
russwest0
10-25-2013, 02:41 AM
These are definitely comparable, if note better:
vs. Chicago 2011
vs. Pacers 2012
vs. Celtics 2012
vs. Thuder 2012
vs. Pacers 2013
Those are better than 30 PPG on 53/35/90 with 8 rebounds and 5 assists a game? Durant had stretches vs that Spurs team where he scored 16 points straight for OKC....
SMH, arguing with you is like arguing with any other casual fan getting all of their knowledge from ESPN. I'd have to spend too much time educating you on shit, not worth the time
HoopsFanNumero1
10-25-2013, 02:44 AM
Those are better than 30 PPG on 53/35/90 with 8 rebounds and 5 assists a game? Durant had stretches vs that Spurs team where he scored 16 points straight for OKC....
SMH, arguing with you is like arguing with any other casual fan getting all of their knowledge from ESPN. I'd have to spend too much time educating you on shit, not worth the time
Lebron's 2012 series against the Celtics alone was better than any series Durant ever had.
russwest0
10-25-2013, 02:45 AM
Lebron's 2012 series against the Celtics alone was better than any series Durant ever had.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
>Being this dumb
HoopsFanNumero1
10-25-2013, 02:47 AM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
>Being this dumb
Like I said, stick to what you're best at, tipping cows.
tmacattack33
10-25-2013, 11:46 AM
Was that written on a roll of toilet paper? :oldlol:
If Lebron wrote that down, he seriously has an insecurity complex.
So you thought that Kevin Durant had Lebron James at number 11 on his best current player list?
tmacattack33
10-25-2013, 11:47 AM
If Clippers or Golden State make the Western conference finals, they certainly matchup well against the Heat.
Golden State;
Curry vs Chalmers/Cole = Embarassment
Thompson vs Wade = Wade, but not by a long way
Iggy vs Lebron = Lebron should come out on top, but Iggy will give him fits on defense
Lee vs Bosh = Almost a wash
Bogut vs Out of condition Oden? or Birdman? = Demolition
GS bench vs Heat bench = pretty even, although Barnes is the best bench player out of the two.
Clippers;
Paul vs Chlamers/Cole = Embarassment
JJ Reddick/Crawford vs Wade = Edge to wade
Dudley/Barnes = Lebron easy
Griffin vs Bosh = Pretty close
Jordan vs Out of condition Oden/Birdman = Jordan easy
Clippers bench >> Heat bench
Dwyane Wade just has an "edge" over JJ Redick?
:oldlol:
305Baller
10-25-2013, 06:11 PM
:oldlol:
I saw two really good games (game 6 and 7) and a few half decent games...
A legendary series is a little far from the truth.
:rolleyes:
Name better series'. I bet you cannot without going to google search or wikipedia.
:oldlol:
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