"Classic" rap albums?

[fpliii]

What qualifies, in your opinion?

[KobesFinger]

I'll try to do this chronologically

NWA - Straight Outta Compton (1987)
Eric B & Rakim - Paid in Full (1987)
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted (1990)
Ice Cube - Death Certificate (1991)
Dr. Dre - The Chronic (1992)
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle (1993)
Nas - Illmatic (1994)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die (1994)
2Pac - Me Against the World (1995)
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt (1996)
2Pac - All Eyez on Me (1996)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death (1997)
Outkast - Aquemini (1998)
DMX - It's Dark and Hell Is Hot (1998)
Dr. Dre - 2001 (1999)
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP (1999)
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)
Kanye West - College Dropout (2004)
Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)

My opinion, feel free to disagree

[Bless Mathews]

I'll try to do this chronologically

NWA - Straight Outta Compton (1987)
Eric B & Rakim - Paid in Full (1987)
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted (1990)
Ice Cube - Death Certificate (1991)
Dr. Dre - The Chronic (1992)
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle (1993)
Nas - Illmatic (1994)ei
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die (1994)
2Pac - Me Against the World (1995)
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt (1996)
2Pac - All Eyez on Me (1996)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death (1997)
Outkast - Aquemini (1998)
DMX - It's Dark and Hell Is Hot (1998)
Dr. Dre - 2001 (1999)
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP (1999)
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)
Kanye West - College Dropout (2004)
Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)

My opinion, feel free to disagree


That's the same as Kurt loder's list bruh.

[andremiller07]

Violent by Design - Jedi Mind Tricks

is God status for my taste

[Wade3]

It was written doesn't get enough love in these discussions. Arguably Nas' best album IMO

[ace23]

It was written doesn't get enough love in these discussions. Arguably Nas' best album IMO
It is Nas's best album.

[East_Stone_Ya]

to me Rip the Jacker by Canibus is a classic album

[TheReturn]

Some classics to me:

- Black Star
- Food & Liquor
- Illmatic
- Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
- The College Dropout

[KobesFinger]

That's the same as Kurt loder's list bruh.

Link? I googled "kurt loder classic rap albums" and I couldn't find a list.

I'm on the fence about The Black Album and It Was Written. Great albums for sure, unsure whether they're classics

Edit: Forgot Enter the Wu, Liquid Swords and Fishscale

[BoogieWoogieMan]

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[ace23]

This is kind of a pointless discussion when classic albums are not even necessarily good, but just generally highly regarded by your typical middle-aged hip-hop fan.

We're posting opinions on other people's opinions really.

[East_Stone_Ya]

This is kind of a pointless discussion when classic albums are not even necessarily good, but just generally highly regarded by your typical middle-aged hip-hop fan.

care to give some examples?

[LBJMVP]

tha carter 2

[MetsPackers]

This is kind of a pointless discussion when classic albums are not even necessarily good, but just generally highly regarded by your typical middle-aged hip-hop fan.

We're posting opinions on other people's opinions really.


Of the albums listed so far, which are 'not necessarily good'?

[ace23]

care to give some examples?
First two albums on Kobe Finger's list are subpar to average in my opinion. Jay-Z hasn't put out a good album since Reasonable Doubt. GRODT, It's Dark and Hell is Hot, and Doggystyle are not good albums.

I can't argue that they're not classics though. They are.

[-p.tiddy-]

First two albums on Kobe Finger's list are subpar to average in my opinion. Jay-Z hasn't put out a good album since Reasonable Doubt. GRODT, It's Dark and Hell is Hot, and Doggystyle are not good albums.

I can't argue that they're not classics though. They are.
those were "very good"

I was in high school when those came out...everyone was nuts for them

[ace23]

those were "very good"

I was in high school when those came out...everyone was nuts for them
Yup, when you listen to music outside of it's time, it's easier to evaluate it for what it actually is instead of buying into hype.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It is Nas's best album.


Please. Wasn even the best rap album from that year

[-p.tiddy-]

every single thing the Wu did from "Wu-Tang Forever" and before is
"classic"...after that not so much

Spice 1 - 187 He Wrote and Amerikka's Nightmare are both "classic"...he never gets mentioned though

[TheMarkMadsen]

Tical gets slept on like crazy.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Ice T- OG

[ace23]

Please. Wasn even the best rap album from that year
Off top, I've heard three albums from 96 (All Eyez on Me, IWW, RD) so Idk.

What does that have to do with it being his best album though? It clearly was. The Message and If I Ruled The World are two of my favorite songs ever.

[Dresta]

I'll try to do this chronologically

NWA - Straight Outta Compton (1987)
Eric B & Rakim - Paid in Full (1987)
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted (1990)
Ice Cube - Death Certificate (1991)
Dr. Dre - The Chronic (1992)
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle (1993)
Nas - Illmatic (1994)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die (1994)
2Pac - Me Against the World (1995)
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt (1996)
2Pac - All Eyez on Me (1996)
The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death (1997)
Outkast - Aquemini (1998)
DMX - It's Dark and Hell Is Hot (1998)
Dr. Dre - 2001 (1999)
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP (1999)
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)
Kanye West - College Dropout (2004)
Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)

My opinion, feel free to disagree
That list would be far more accurate if you called it 'the most overrated hip-hop albums of all time.'

[TheMarkMadsen]

Off top, I've heard three albums from 96 (All Eyez on Me, IWW, RD) so Idk.

What does that have to do with it being his best album though? It clearly was. The Message and If I Ruled The World are two of my favorite songs ever.


It was Written is a great album I'm not denying that, I used to bump street dreams like 10 times a day.

As far as being his best album though? Nah not IMO Illmatic is his best work.

Halftime, It ain't hard to tell, The world is yours, Represent.. That album had 10 songs and each of them are songs that could have been the selling point for any album as a stand alone single. Felt like every word on this album was carefully selected. It was written would be his 2nd best, I also really enjoyed Stillmatic

As for 96, I was thinking of OB4CL but I just checked and it was released in 95.

[Bless Mathews]

Link? I googled "kurt loder classic rap albums" and I couldn't find a list.

I'm on the fence about The Black Album and It Was Written. Great albums for sure, unsure whether they're classics

Edit: Forgot Enter the Wu, Liquid Swords and Fishscale
Try Tabitha sorenson. She knows hip hop. Aks 2pac

[chips93]

That list would be far more accurate if you called it 'the most overrated hip-hop albums of all time.'

gosh, you're so edgy!

[EnoughSaid]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/KendrickGKMC.jpg

[fsvr54]

Lol at these kiddies

Kool G Rap
Geto Boys
Black Star
Gang Starr
Big Daddy Kane
Jeru The Damaja
The Pharcyde
The Coup
KRS-ONE (BDP)
De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Organized Konfusion
Black Moon
Smif N Wessun
Company Flow
EPMD
Public Enemy
Freestyle Fellowship
Binary Star
Cannibal Ox
Gravediggaz
O.C.
Masta Ace
Main Source
Ras Kass
Showbiz & AG
Digable Planets
The D.O.C.
Eric B and Rakim
Paris
Del
Goodie Mob
Eightbal & Mjg
Mobb Deep
M.O.P.
Pete Rock & CL Smooth
etc

...get no mentions

[Dresta]

gosh, you're so edgy!
Got nothing to do with being 'edgy', just not being a tool that likes what he's told to like.

This man knows his shit:


Lol at these kiddies

Kool G Rap
Geto Boys
Black Star
Gang Starr
Big Daddy Kane
Jeru The Damaja
The Pharcyde
The Coup
KRS-ONE (BDP)
De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Organized Konfusion
Black Moon
Smif N Wessun
Company Flow
EPMD
Public Enemy
Freestyle Fellowship
Binary Star
Cannibal Ox
Gravediggaz
O.C.
Masta Ace
Main Source
Ras Kass
Showbiz & AG
Digable Planets
The D.O.C.
Eric B and Rakim
Paris
Del
Goodie Mob
Eightbal & Mjg
Mobb Deep
M.O.P.
Pete Rock & CL Smooth
etc

...get no mentions


:bowdown:

[ace23]

Lol at these kiddies

Kool G Rap
Geto Boys
Black Star
Gang Starr
Big Daddy Kane
Jeru The Damaja
The Pharcyde
The Coup
KRS-ONE (BDP)
De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Organized Konfusion
Black Moon
Smif N Wessun
Company Flow
EPMD
Public Enemy
Freestyle Fellowship
Binary Star
Cannibal Ox
Gravediggaz
O.C.
Masta Ace
Main Source
Ras Kass
Showbiz & AG
Digable Planets
The D.O.C.
Eric B and Rakim
Paris
Del
Goodie Mob
Eightbal & Mjg
Mobb Deep
M.O.P.
Pete Rock & CL Smooth
etc

...get no mentions
Lol dumbass didn't read the thread.

:roll: @ KRS

[BRabbiT]

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[longhornfan1234]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/KendrickGKMC.jpg
Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter here's true, living my life in the margin, and that metaphor is true.


^


this line went over my head on GKMC until I read it on Rap Genius.


"Kendrick poetically justifies why his writing is vital to hip-hop. To explain this, he sneaks 4 literary mechanisms into the inner-workings of his rhymes (punctuation, letter, margin, metaphor):

[ace23]

Pretty sure that's not what he meant at all when he said his punctuation curves.

EDIT: Maybe, now that I look at both lines together.

Any GKMC can't be a classic. It's a year old.

[Burgz V2]

the black album is not a classic, it's a shameless ploy to make money. retirement my ass.

don't get me wrong, the album has some great songs, but to me it was only great because of its context, potentially his last album...which it wasn't.

I'd take RD, BP1, IML v1 over the black album

[tomtucker]

the black album is not a classic, it's a shameless ploy to make money. retirement my ass.

don't get me wrong, the album has some great songs, but to me it was only great because of its context, potentially his last album...which it wasn't.

I'd take RD, BP1, IML v1 over the black album

true...............and kanye west does not belong on any lists...........except shit lists

[iggy>]

true...............and kanye west does not belong on any lists...........except shit lists
You're high out of your mind. Kanye's discography is legendary.

[fpliii]

So what did we settle on here?

[BoogieWoogieMan]

So what did we settle on here?

That nobody agrees with anybody, but we all agree that ace is a dumb ass punk.