View Full Version : Andre Drummond had great 2013 preseason
insidehoops
10-25-2013, 10:23 AM
Andre Drummond continued his dominant October on Thursday with 11 points, 20 boards, one assist and one block in 38 minutes against the Wolves.
He simply looks like he's playing with college kids in the paint. Drummond has 14.0 boards per game in his last five outings and it's not too crazy to think he can win the rebounding crown. Interestingly, two days ago online-gambling sites had him at 50:1 to earn that distinction and it has already been cut down to 25:1. If you can absorb the free throw misses, Drummond could be in for a huge season.
-- Rotoworld
We have plenty of guys who can score. If he keeps clogging up the middle and grabbing those boards I think it'll be a good season for him. With the minutes he gets he should be able to average 10-12 points per game too. I think he's going to be a double-double machine. The sky is the limit with him and it's going to be exciting to see how he evolves and grows.
Aussie Dunker
10-25-2013, 07:04 PM
Will he average more points, or more rebounds this season?
I think both categories range between 9-14,
I'm guessing at 13 points, 12 rebounds, with 2.5 blocks, and over a steal, with 60% shooting...
GREAT pre-season, very happy with the progress of his little jump hook, I think he is showing signs he will be more than a defensive anchor...
Will he average more points, or more rebounds this season?
I think both categories range between 9-14,
I'm guessing at 13 points, 12 rebounds, with 2.5 blocks, and over a steal, with 60% shooting...
GREAT pre-season, very happy with the progress of his little jump hook, I think he is showing signs he will be more than a defensive anchor...
I think there is a chance he could average more rebounds. He could average 12 points, 13 rebounds. I'm not sure he'll shoot 60% from the field. That's really high. I think it's going to be in the lower 50's.
embersyc
10-26-2013, 09:35 PM
Seems like he is taking more 'shots' as opposed to only dunking the ball, so I'm sure his shooting % will drop this season. I think he average more rebounds than points, although it should be close. The team still really isn't running any offensive plays for him.
Seems like he is taking more 'shots' as opposed to only dunking the ball, so I'm sure his shooting % will drop this season. I think he average more rebounds than points, although it should be close. The team still really isn't running any offensive plays for him.
As long as he keeps his FG% around 50% I think that's just fine. I'm more worried about him making his free throws this year. If he can knock those down a bit better it will help out his game a lot.
Aussie Dunker
10-27-2013, 05:52 AM
What will be closer?
His points and rebounds per game,
or
His FT and FG %'s
What will be closer?
His points and rebounds per game,
or
His FT and FG %'s
Haha, I think both are going to be very close.
ZMonkey11
10-28-2013, 12:52 AM
What will be closer?
His points and rebounds per game,
or
His FT and FG %'s
lololol
Aussie Dunker
06-16-2014, 11:51 PM
Well looks like we were pretty spot on!!
PPG - 13.5
RPG - 13.2
But his FG% .623 andbsolutely killed his FT% .418
How about next year, what are we projecting in terms of Points and rebounds?
16ppg and 15rpg (to lead the league) ??
I think 15 rpg is a pretty lofty goal. It's possible, but I'm going to be absolutely happy if he can average 13 again. I would like to see his scoring average go up a little bit though, and I would like to see it happen with an improvement with his free throws. All he needs to do is to hit a few more of those per game and he could definitely be at 16-17ppg.
Aussie Dunker
06-17-2014, 03:01 AM
Yeah 15 is lofty, I think 14 may be a better bet, but remember he is still in the incredibly elastic part of his development as a player, going into his 3rd year should be the peak of his development process.
If Monroe is somehow not on the team - I say he takes down more boards than we think.
But I would be very surprised if he isn't top 3 in the league for both rebounds and FG%.
That is another reason why Rondo makes sense - you see how easily he drives through defenses to the bucket - and you can imagine how many little hand off's to Dre under the bucket he would be able to do... Huge!
It definitely does depend on who we have for big men going into the season. I would think it would have to take a pretty sweet deal for Monroe to not be around though.
Aussie Dunker
06-17-2014, 03:47 AM
It definitely does depend on who we have for big men going into the season. I would think it would have to take a pretty sweet deal for Monroe to not be around though.
We would hope so mate,
I would accept a Rondo trade as a pretty sweet deal,
I wouldn't accept a Ryan Anderson type deal as sweet however...
Nastradamus
06-17-2014, 04:01 PM
Monroe,Jerebko,Bynum for Gordon and Anderson? We'd finally have some shooting. You'd have to be comfortable playing Anderson and Smith at the 4/5 for 15-20 a night though, so IDK.
Monroe,Jerebko,Bynum for Gordon and Anderson? We'd finally have some shooting. You'd have to be comfortable playing Anderson and Smith at the 4/5 for 15-20 a night though, so IDK.
I think Anderson is a good fit next to Monroe. He was great next to Dwight in Orlando. I don't think he's a good fit with Smith though, plus that year in Orlando they weren't good..... We wouldn't be able to guard anybody. I want absolutely nothing to do with Gordon. He's listed at 6'4" but he's more like 6'3". The last time we had a 6'3" SG named Gordon that didn't work out too well. This particular one has had a career plagued with injuries. He's never played a full season ever and he's young. I want to stay as far away as possible from that.
Nastradamus
06-17-2014, 06:25 PM
Anderson was playing very good D under SVG.
I'm not saying he didn't, but it does mean that he or Smith will have to guard the SF position. Last year having Smith at SF didn't work out well.
Aussie Dunker
06-17-2014, 07:20 PM
Yeah I wouldn't want to touch Eric Gordon - huge contract and doesn't make those around him better, would rather just get Morrow who would be 10 times cheaper whilst being a better shooter and not harming his team mates potential (Gordon would hinder KCP's growth, no doubt)
I will say this though - Gordon is a very, very underrated defender, that is the one aspect about his game I love - very underrated in this department...
Nastradamus
06-17-2014, 09:34 PM
We need guys who can shoot 3s and D up. His contract only goes for two more years and we dump a couple useless players in the process.
Nastradamus
06-17-2014, 09:34 PM
I'm not saying he didn't, but it does mean that he or Smith will have to guard the SF position. Last year having Smith at SF didn't work out well.
I definitely would not ever plan to put one of them out there at the 3.
I definitely would not ever plan to put one of them out there at the 3.
Then the trade makes no sense. You can't have those big contracts and not have them out on the court.
Aussie Dunker
06-18-2014, 02:19 AM
Dre / Moose / Anderson would work very well,
Dre - Moose
Moose - Anderson
Dre - Anderson
All very capable rotations - although obviously not a likely scenario seems that we would be trading Moose for Anderson... Unfortunately
I wonder when the market price will be set for players like Stephenson / Ariza / Hayward...
Teams are going to see what Melo and Lebron do first. It's always the superstars who need to sign first, then the secondary players will. Unfortunately this is a really weak class, so there is a chance teams will go after those players quicker if they really think they don't have a shot at anyone else.
Aussie Dunker
06-18-2014, 03:50 AM
Lebron will probably sign in Detroit........................................... ...........
Lebron will probably sign in Detroit........................................... ...........
He'd have more help here than in Miami. Josh Smith, Andre Drummond, and Brandon Jennings is more than what he has there. Wade is done. Bosh is nice but they've only made him a 3 point shooter now. Lebron does need to be surrounded by shooters though and that's one thing this team would have to find.
Nastradamus
06-18-2014, 06:16 PM
Then the trade makes no sense. You can't have those big contracts and not have them out on the court.
I already mentioned that having Smith and Anderson would probably be too much of an issue, but if you do have them, you play them at the 4 and 5.
Nastradamus
06-18-2014, 06:17 PM
Dre / Moose / Anderson would work very well,
Dre - Moose
Moose - Anderson
Dre - Anderson
All very capable rotations - although obviously not a likely scenario seems that we would be trading Moose for Anderson... Unfortunately
I wonder when the market price will be set for players like Stephenson / Ariza / Hayward...
But we don't have anyone to give for Anderson if we keep Moose. The Pelicans don't want a PF like Smith, they want a C who allows Davis to play PF. Most teams view Monroe as a C.
Nastradamus
06-18-2014, 06:19 PM
He'd have more help here than in Miami. Josh Smith, Andre Drummond, and Brandon Jennings is more than what he has there. Wade is done. Bosh is nice but they've only made him a 3 point shooter now. Lebron does need to be surrounded by shooters though and that's one thing this team would have to find.
We'd actually be a very good spot for him. That frontline with him,Dre and Smith would be very big, athletic and defensively strong.
You're banking on KCP developing at that point. Singler is a nice fit as a role player and you live with Jennings. He's better than guys like Chalmers and can create offense when teams gang up on Lebron.
You gotta look for cheap shooters in FA at that point. Morrow,Fredette,Mills etc. and ideally some sort of stretch 4. Hawes?
haha, it will never happen though obviously.
^^ Yeah it won't happen, but that would be a roster that would go to the finals. Especially if we landed a guy like Morrow too (who I like). Lebron is crazy to stay in Miami. Wade is just going to get older and worse and he's not going to take a pay cut. It's going to be hard to put players around him there.
Aussie Dunker
06-18-2014, 06:39 PM
Unfortunately - I don't think Mills is going to be a cheap shooter anymore. Especially after this season, his finals run and that 3rd quarter against the heat in game 5...
I'm hearing teams will offer him 6-7 million per year... Not quite sure he is worth that, but hey, good on him... Warriors, Bulls high on him for a prominent backup role, Pacers considering him for a starting role, and obviously Spurs will offer him as much as they can but will probably fall short of market value.
He lit it up in the finals, but Mills is for sure going to get over paid. I want no part of that either.
Aussie Dunker
06-18-2014, 10:07 PM
I use to shoot hoops with Mills when we were under 15's. Damn good dude, very humble - definitely making our nation proud - but yeah 6-7 mill per season I feel would be way too much for him.
I think he deserves 4 years / 16 mill, and be the premiere back up PG in the league...
But yeah I can see a team overpaying him something like 3 years / 18 mill
***I just checked what Jarrett Jack signed for (in which I think Mills will garner a similar offer) and it was 25 mill / 4 years ***
I use to shoot hoops with Mills when we were under 15's. Damn good dude, very humble - definitely making our nation proud - but yeah 6-7 mill per season I feel would be way too much for him.
I think he deserves 4 years / 16 mill, and be the premiere back up PG in the league...
But yeah I can see a team overpaying him something like 3 years / 18 mill
***I just checked what Jarrett Jack signed for (in which I think Mills will garner a similar offer) and it was 25 mill / 4 years ***
Jack got way too much money. I don't like paying backups that much. Mills is good, but there's a lot of guys who leave the Spurs and don't play quite the same. The first one that comes to mind is George Hill. Great backup in San Antonio. Not so good in Indiana. I like the contract Will Bynum is on. He makes less than 3 million per season. I feel like he's better than Mills too.
Aussie Dunker
06-19-2014, 04:11 AM
Yeah Jack got way too much indeed... But can easily see Patty getting way too much as well - all it takes is 1 team out of 30 to make a stupid offer, which is very likely...
Not sure who I would rather out of Mills and Bynum. Bynum is on a great contract in my opinion, but he sometimes frustrates the hell out of me with his terrible D and over dribbling - but then on other nights he looks like a first level starter with his penetration scoring...
Nastradamus
06-19-2014, 11:23 AM
Jack got way too much money. I don't like paying backups that much. Mills is good, but there's a lot of guys who leave the Spurs and don't play quite the same. The first one that comes to mind is George Hill. Great backup in San Antonio. Not so good in Indiana. I like the contract Will Bynum is on. He makes less than 3 million per season. I feel like he's better than Mills too.
George Hill was a backup in SA. He isn't the PG Indy needs, but he's still played very good ball for them.
Nastradamus
06-19-2014, 11:24 AM
Yeah Jack got way too much indeed... But can easily see Patty getting way too much as well - all it takes is 1 team out of 30 to make a stupid offer, which is very likely...
Not sure who I would rather out of Mills and Bynum. Bynum is on a great contract in my opinion, but he sometimes frustrates the hell out of me with his terrible D and over dribbling - but then on other nights he looks like a first level starter with his penetration scoring...
With the way we are set up, shooting is something I'd overpay for if needed. Not by too much though.
Bynum and Jerebko have to go fromt his team IMO. We need shooters in those 2 spots pretty badly and those guys make too much.
George Hill was a backup in SA. He isn't the PG Indy needs, but he's still played very good ball for them.
Exactly, I said he was a backup in SA. You make my point about overpaying backups.
Aussie Dunker
06-19-2014, 07:49 PM
With the way we are set up, shooting is something I'd overpay for if needed. Not by too much though.
Bynum and Jerebko have to go fromt his team IMO. We need shooters in those 2 spots pretty badly and those guys make too much.
I quite like Jerebko, very hard nosed player, hustle, very underrated rebounder and has some nice stretch big man skills - but I would have thought he would be very cheap - 4.5 mill per year is too much, I agree...
I like Jerebko too. He hasn't been used right (or enough) over the past few seasons. He can actually shoot the ball which is something we need. I would bet SVG would use him more than others have in the past.
Nastradamus
06-20-2014, 12:32 AM
Exactly, I said he was a backup in SA. You make my point about overpaying backups.
I think the Pacers have generally gotten what they expected from Hill.
I think the Pacers have generally gotten what they expected from Hill.
Being one of their weakest links?
Aussie Dunker
06-20-2014, 01:30 AM
Hill was signed by the Pacers to be a starter, there is no doubt there would be some level of disappointment - but he wasn't terrible... I think he was used wrong right from the start.
He simply does not have the game type to be a starter - he has the perfect game to be the first player off the bench...
I think that if used right he can be even better than the Pacers expected, but I just don't think he has a starting role in this league. Not due to lack of talent, but more so lack of ability to run an effective offense.
I think Mills will suffer a similar fate if expected to start...
The Charlie V signing really diminished Jerebko's role on this team. I want to keep him - and see what SVG can do with him...
Nastradamus
06-20-2014, 10:43 AM
Yah, Hill is probably worth closer to 6 mil than 8 mil, but its not like he left SA and all of a sudden we were like "OMG, that's a completely different player, I"m shocked.". He's the same George Hill he was in SA and generally what Indy thought he was. Last year he showed some flashes of being a little more, but he regressed a bit this year IMO. He shoots 3s and defends with a little ball handling mixed in.
Kukoc
06-22-2014, 05:48 PM
He had an awesome seaon.
You guys have to built a team around him.
He is your future
Aussie Dunker
06-22-2014, 07:37 PM
He had an awesome seaon.
You guys have to built a team around him.
He is your future
Hoping you are talking about Dre and not Hill :banana:
Kukoc
06-24-2014, 03:48 PM
Hill? Who is Hill?
Ofcourse Im talking about Drummond
Aussie Dunker
06-24-2014, 07:32 PM
^Was just messing mate ^^
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