Marcin Gortat traded to the Wizards with Emeka Okafor heading to Phoenix

[All Net]

via Marc Stein.

Hearing: Suns are trading Marcin Gortat to the Wizards. Okafor on his way to Phoenix. More details to come

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)

[bagelred]

:eek:

[longtime lurker]

And so the Alex Len era begins

[JimmyMcAdocious]

That's what Gortat is worth? Wonder what else is in the trade. Can't imagine Phoenix giving up assets, tho...

Damn I like the Wizards makeup. Gortat/Nene/Porter/Beal/Wall :applause:

[Shade8780]

Suns :wtf: Okafor? Except now Len can start which kind of makes the trade good.

[Levity]

oooo wow.


suns are starving for wiggins.

[MP.Trey]

Gortat is legit. Wizards playoff contender.

[All Net]

Wizards should make the playoffs if Wall is healthy.

[iDunk]

They get Shannon Brown & Kendall Marshall TOO!?!?

Wizards made out like bandits. Makes me think why the Thunder didn't go for him if the asking price was this bad.

[Jameerthefear]

Gortat is legit. Wizards playoff contender.
eh. kind of soft.

[bagelred]

Suns :wtf: Okafor? Except now Len can start which kind of makes the trade good.

Gortat is a free agent next summer and Suns aren't going to resign him. So they wanted to get some assets...probably got a first rounder from Wiz.

[niko]

Gortat is a free agent next summer and Suns aren't going to resign him. So they wanted to get some assets...probably got a first rounder from Wiz.
No probably, they did.

[bagelred]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 8m

Proposed deal will send Gortat, Shannon Brown and Kendall Marshall to Wizards and Suns on course to receive Emeka Okafor & at least one pick

more.

[PleezeBelieve]

Fukkin Wizards being the Wizards. Adding salary while losing picks for a defensive big who offers no long term stability.

[Crafty]

#Suns #tankingforwiggins

[Johnny Jones]

eh. kind of soft.
Gortat is not soft dude.

[Eric Cartman]

OKC is shedding a collective tear as we speak.

[PleezeBelieve]

Need go find out the value of the pick before we can judge this ass rape by the Suns.

[iDunk]

OKC is shedding a collective tear as we speak.
This.

Thunder could've offered more, but probably didn't even inquire.

[Jameerthefear]

Gortat is not soft dude.
to be honest i haven't watched him too much, but the few times i watched him in Pheonix and when he played with Orlando he had some "soft" qualities. a lot of bricking layups when he could have dunked etc. he needs to go up stronger.

[kurple]

i always wanted to pair him with Nene

[HylianNightmare]

How my Emeka has fallen

[niko]

Now Emeka gets cut, signs in Miami giving them another servicable big. Fudge fudge fudge.

[Myth]

OKC is shedding a collective tear as we speak.

Perkins is going to miss that sweet ass.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e148/crazydonovan12/Gortattrade_zps0e18dee7.png (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/crazydonovan12/media/Gortattrade_zps0e18dee7.png.html)

[OldSkoolball#52]

OKC is shedding a collective tear as we speak.


Maybe theyre sheddin a tear but its obvious theyre choosing not to pursue anyone else while theyre still payin Perkins, which is their own fault.

[KG215]

This.

Thunder could've offered more, but probably didn't even inquire.


OKC is shedding a collective tear as we speak.

Why would OKC give a f*** after how well Steven Adams played in the preseason? Now they've got a 20 year old rookie under lock for at least 4 more years. To get Gortat they would have had to trade away someone like Lamb (making them even thinner in the backcourt) and a 1st round pick.

Instead, now it looks like Adams might actually be a serviceable center from the get-go, and they get to watch him grow and develop on his rookie contract for 4-seasons. Trade for Gortat and there's a possibility they lose some assets AND watch Gortat leave for nothing next Summer.

[HomieWeMajor]

50 wins guaranteed

[Grinder]

Gortat is obviously the main piece in this trade and he'll really compliment the rest of the starting lineup but I think Kendall Marshall is a great get for the Wiz. He can be an excellent backup point guard for Wall and a facilitator in a 3 guard lineup. Small ball with Marshall, Wall, Beal, Porter, and Nene/Vesely would be insane.

[Myth]

50 wins guaranteed

I can see Emeka making that kind of impact on the Suns too.

[DuMa]

Wizards' chances of winning the SE division just went up like .5% yo!

[TheReal Kendall]

Tank Tank Tank :banana:

I guess I gotta make sure I watch Wiggins when NCAA start.

It hurts being a Suns fan :cry:

Any news on the pick????

[FKAri]

eh. kind of soft.

How can a Polak be soft? lol

[PleezeBelieve]

2014 #1 pick (top 12 protected)

[Tking714]

Strong tank is strong.

[Jameerthefear]

How can a Polak be soft? lol
he plays like he's soft.

[andremiller07]

Nice move him and Nene if they are healthy are going to do some damage that's for sure. Beal has looked VERY impressive so far as well.

[Andrew Wiggins]

he plays like he's soft.

no he doesn't shut the f*ck up :lol

[Jameerthefear]

no he doesn't shut the f*ck up :lol
from my experience watching him.

[kaiteng]

Wiz is now loaded with good big men.

[Myth]

he plays like he's soft.

Would you rather him play while he's hard?

[Andrew Wiggins]

from my experience watching him.

then you either haven't watched him or don't understand the game because he's anything but soft

[DuMa]

also this hurts my fantasy sleeper pick. i had picked seraphin to have a breakout year :facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

Would you rather him play while he's hard?
well it'd sure make me a lot more excited to watch him

[statman32]

Very nice deal. Returns for expiring contracts have been at a minimal lately. The only crappy thing is thinking about how they wasted the Marshall draft pick.

[bluechox2]

wow, suns sold low

[statman32]

wow, suns sold low
Not at all. What does an expiring contract really get you nowadays? Gortat is a solid center but he is a rental. He should have been traded last year but you can't blame the new GM for that.

[highwhey]

Hell yeah


:rockon:

I still believe that we can tank harder though. We need a locker room cancer to make this solid, too bad beasly is gone.

[statman32]

Hell yeah


:rockon:

I still believe that we can tank harder though. We need a locker room cancer to make this solid, too bad beasly is gone.
There is no reason to bring a cancer on board. This team lacks the experience and talent to do much either way. Just because we are going to tank, doesn't mean that the young players can not gain valuable experience.

[alenleomessi]

also this hurts my fantasy sleeper pick. i had picked seraphin to have a breakout year :facepalm
its not like nene will stay healthy...

what is the suns roster looking like? they gotta be on par with the sixers for the worst in the league

[DaSeba5]

I'll be surprised if the Wizards don't make the playoffs this year.

[highwhey]

There is no reason to bring a cancer on board. This team lacks the experience and talent to do much either way. Just because we are going to tank, doesn't mean that the young players can not gain valuable experience.
I want us to have a 10-72 season.

[longtime lurker]

wow, suns sold low

They got a potential lottery pick in a loaded draft. More like the Wizards bought waaay too high.

[tontoz]

The Wizards gave up a mid-first in a strong draft for a guy they could have signed this summer. :rant

[wakencdukest]

Nice move by the Suns. They get rid of dead weight in Marshall and Brown and score a late lottery pick in a deep draft. Hopefully Okafor is an expiring contract this year, that would be icing on the cake.

[Bigsmoke]

Why couldnt the Heat or Thunder get a hold of those guys?

[livingby3's]

The Suns made themselves the biggest player in the loaded 2014 NBA draft and put themselves in better position to trade for a major star by making a trade Friday that acquired another first-round pick and injured center Emeka Okafor from Washington for center Marcin Gortat, Shannon Brown, Kendall Marshall and Malcolm Lee.

The Suns have settled their 2013-14 roster, made Miles Plumlee a starting center and Ish Smith a backup point guard by completing a trade with the Wizards that could give the Suns four first-round picks in June’s draft. The Suns will have their own and Indiana’s first-round pick for sure but could also have Washington’s pick (protected through 12) and Minnesota’s pick (protected through 13), which could even give the Suns three lottery positions in the Andrew Wiggins sweepstakes. The pick the Suns acquired from Washington in Friday’s trade is protected through 10 from 2015 to 2019 with no protection thereafter.

The Suns take on about $370,000 in payroll with the trade but our still well under the cap. Okafor is out indefinitely with a herniated disk in his neck but could return this season. In the meantime, Plumlee’s rapid progress has earned him a chance to be a starting Suns center with Alex Len and Slava Kravtsov backing him.

“Miles Plumlee’s progress is a big reason we did this trade,” Suns General Manager Ryan McDonough said about his fourth trade since July. “Miles was a big part of the deal we did with Indiana. Our coaching staff has been very pleased with Miles. He’s improved every since he left Duke and a lot in the short time he’s been with us.”

The Suns roster is now at 14 and likely finalized for Wednesday’s opening night, meaning shooting guard Dionte Christmas has made his first NBA team.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/20131025phoenix-suns-agree-to-player-trade-with-washington-wizards.html?nclick_check=1

We coming for you 6ers. My Suns on a serious mood for rookies development, and the upcoming FAgency. Always thought they did good drafting Len and Goodwin last draft. Goodwin is gonna be a steal. Yeah Marshall was a waste of pick, but it was the Suns' way of exiting the Nash's era, moreover they drafted Marshall before they signed Dragic. Marshall was a safety net, though a bad one.

I was thinking the they have too many guards on the roster. Marshall, Goodwin, Ish Smith, Dragic, Beldsoe, Brown, Green, Lee, Dionte Christmas. That's 9 guards right there. Good move to clear the log jam.
Suns gonna fill holes for next season. Fans can expect some big moves. Still feels bad for Gogi.

[redboy]

wiz are doing anything they can in order to contend for the playoffs now. imo they have potential as a number 6 speed provided that both wall and beal play to their potential.

[Golden Grizz]

So the Suns have turned Caron Butler, Michael Beasley, Marcin Gortat, Shannon Brown, Kendall Marshall, Marcus Lee and 2 second rounders into Emeka Okafor, Ish Smith, Viacheslav Kravtsov and a first round pick...

[livingby3's]

Not cool Plumlee is the Suns best big though :facepalm Though if thats what a rebuilding team is about

[chips93]

Wiz is now loaded with good big men.

nene and gortat are both nice, but nene misses lots of games, and after those two, there isnt much. seraphin, vesely, and harrington cant really be relied upon.

[wagexslave]

Gortat is not soft dude.
lol Um yes he is... O_o

As a Suns fan, I can confirm that he's one of the softest centers I've ever seen...

[PleezeBelieve]

Gortat has only played 82 games once when he averaged 13 mpg.

Every other season 62 or less

[Rab]

Absolutely love the direction Ryan McD is taking the Suns right now. Yes, it is clear they are trying to be bad this year, but I love what he's done. No longer are the Suns trying to put bandaids over problems and trying to tread water. They are tearing it all down and are starting from scratch by trading away basically anyone who has real value, and in return are getting picks, and cap flexibility. They just traded Gortat for a first rounder and are taking back an expiring deal. That doesn't happen often. For the first time since the 2010 WCF's I am excited as a Suns fan. At least now there is hope for the future.

[Anti Hero]

Absolutely love the direction Ryan McD is taking the Suns right now. Yes, it is clear they are trying to be bad this year, but I love what he's done. No longer are the Suns trying to put bandaids over problems and trying to tread water. They are tearing it all down and are starting from scratch by trading away basically anyone who has real value, and in return are getting picks, and cap flexibility. They just traded Gortat for a first rounder and are taking back an expiring deal. That doesn't happen often. For the first time since the 2010 WCF's I am excited as a Suns fan. At least now there is hope for the future.
Samsies.

[livingby3's]

Absolutely love the direction Ryan McD is taking the Suns right now. Yes, it is clear they are trying to be bad this year, but I love what he's done. No longer are the Suns trying to put bandaids over problems and trying to tread water. They are tearing it all down and are starting from scratch by trading away basically anyone who has real value, and in return are getting picks, and cap flexibility. They just traded Gortat for a first rounder and are taking back an expiring deal. That doesn't happen often. For the first time since the 2010 WCF's I am excited as a Suns fan. At least now there is hope for the future.

Repped. this GM definitely making things work. so far they been doing good all off season. Will be hard to watch next season, but I believe in the direction they are heading

[Rab]

Repped. this GM definitely making things work. so far they been doing good all off season. Will be hard to watch next season, but I believe in the direction they are heading
I wasn't high on the Len pick, but everything else has been aces. Hopefully we draft well or turn some of these picks into quality players for the future. It will be interesting to see how the front office uses all of this to build the team back up.

[statman32]

Gortat has only played 82 games once when he averaged 13 mpg.

Every other season 62 or less
Almost everything about this is false.^^

08-09 - 63 games
09-10 - 81 games (You mentioned this as the only season)
10-11 - 80 games
11-12 - 66 games (out of 66 games)

In his last 4 seasons, he has played in more than 97% of his teams games, 3 out of 4 years.

[B-Easy8]

Does that mean Frye will start at the 5?

[Nastradamus]

Good deal for both sides. Wizards want to win some games short term, but they also don't hurt their long term cap. The pick shouldn't be too high and they don't have a ton of room for a rookie next year anyways.

The Suns get Gortat out of Len's way and get a pick and Okafor is actually a nice mentor for Len

[Nastradamus]

Absolutely love the direction Ryan McD is taking the Suns right now. Yes, it is clear they are trying to be bad this year, but I love what he's done. No longer are the Suns trying to put bandaids over problems and trying to tread water. They are tearing it all down and are starting from scratch by trading away basically anyone who has real value, and in return are getting picks, and cap flexibility. They just traded Gortat for a first rounder and are taking back an expiring deal. That doesn't happen often. For the first time since the 2010 WCF's I am excited as a Suns fan. At least now there is hope for the future.

Well put.

[livingby3's]

Does that mean Frye will start at the 5?

Plumlee who they acquired from the Pacers will start at 5

[chips93]

Plumlee who they acquired from the Pacers will start at 5

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lstni9P5Qi1qjl462.gif

[bdreason]

Good move from the Wiz.

[Funnyfuka]

both okafor and gortat are complete scrubs. Non event. Please.

[ralph_i_el]

both okafor and gortat are complete scrubs. Non event. Please.


:facepalm yup the only people that matter are Lebron kobe and jordan right?

[Jameerthefear]

lol Um yes he is... O_o

As a Suns fan, I can confirm that he's one of the softest centers I've ever seen...
Tell that to the bitchwho negged me. Everything I said was true. Next time sign your name instead of gigantes :roll: (talking to the guy who negged me)

[MP.Trey]

Almost everything about this is false.^^

08-09 - 63 games
09-10 - 81 games (You mentioned this as the only season)
10-11 - 80 games
11-12 - 66 games (out of 66 games)

In his last 4 seasons, he has played in more than 97% of his teams games, 3 out of 4 years.
Lmao. Does he actually think he can spew out bullshit like that and no one will call him out with the facts.

[Papaya Petee]

Gortat averaged 16\10\2 two years ago while being one of the better defenders in the NBA.

Last year with the lack of touches he still averaged 12\10 on good defense.

I expect him to have a much better season than last year, and help the Wizards secure a playoff spot.

[DukeDelonte13]

good move by the suns, kinda iffy move by the wiz.

[MP.Trey]

good move by the suns, kinda iffy move by the wiz.
What don't you like for this by the Wizards, if I may ask? They get rid of a guy who might not even play this season and in return get a consistent double double big man who has shown that he can be durable the past few years.

I understand it's supposed to be a good draft year, and picks are important but I applaud the Wizards for making this move. Shows they're tired of the mediocrity and ready to make a playoff push.

[redhonda76]

Good move for both sides. The Suns are obviously tanking and the Wiz for a very solid physical center in Gortat. They are building the pieces around Wall so no excuse for Wall not to break out his potential this season and try to be the top 5 team in the east.

[JMT]

Does that mean Frye will start at the 5?

Yes. They're still committed to bringing Len along slowly. In preseason they had some success pairing Gortat with Plumlee or Len, but because of the offensive shortcomings of both young guys and the fact that Okafor may miss half the season, they'll start Fry in a system that resembles what they did two seasons ago.

It should be absolutely horrible to watch, but it's a great move for the franchise going forward. It's the kind of forward thinking the old regime should have embraced when Amare left instead of trying to piece together crap with Shaq etc.

[Jailblazers7]

Move makes sense for both teams but I really like it for Washington.

[Eric Cartman]

Emeka doesn't get that any hate for being a bust.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Emeka doesn't get that any hate for being a bust.

Probably because he's not that much of one, if at all.

First of all, look at that draft and who realistically Charlotte would have chosen. Ben Gordon, Shaun Livingston, and Devin Harris were the next 3 picks. Josh Childress following them (first non guard - not sure if that's relevant). All of them are bigger "busts" than Okafor.

Then his career hasn't been bad at all. He's a legitimate starter in this league. He did win ROY. When he's healthy, he's a high percentage scoring, double-double player, with good defense.

His career outlook might be different if he had not spent his entire career on shitty teams. His best team was that 2011 Hornets squad. Which he played well on.. 10.3/9.5/1.8 blocks .573% FG. Besides that, he has played on some really bad rosters. You would have to be Jordan good to turn those teams into contenders.

[KyleKong]

Suns and Philly.

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