Are The Nets The Deepest Team In Recent Memory?

[The JKidd Kid]

Deron Williams/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyshawn Taylor
Joe Johnson/ Jason Terry/ Alan Anderson
Paul Peirce/ Andrei Kirilenko/ Toko Shengelia
Kevin Garnett/ Reggie Evans/ Mirza Teletovic
Brook Lopez/ Andray Blatche/ Mason Plumlee

This team is legitimately 2 deep at every position. Jason Terry and Andray Blatche are bothe good enough to start in this league and Andrei Kirilenko and Reggie Evans were starters last season. Alan Anderson, Mirza Teletovic and Mason Plumlee are also capable of playing productive minutes off the bench.

I don't think I've ever seen a team this deep.

[Mr. Incredible]

And still won't win the title

[DuMa]

for nearly 200 million, they better be

[STATUTORY]

depth is overrated

when your best player is deron williams, you ain't going nowhere

[francesco totti]

in playoffs, u go 8 - 9 man deep.
having core of players playing long together brings stability too...rather then changing rotations constantly. some times depth hurts like that in terms of chemistry

[GrapeApe]

Depth will win you a lot of games in the regular season, but in the playoffs when rotations are tightened it's not all that significant.

[Trollsmasher]

Deep? Sure

Not good enough on the top? Yep

[b1imtf]

Deron Williams/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyshawn Taylor
Joe Johnson/ Jason Terry/ Alan Anderson
Paul Peirce/ Andrei Kirilenko/ Toko Shengelia
Kevin Garnett/ Reggie Evans/ Mirza Teletovic
Brook Lopez/ Andray Blatche/ Mason Plumlee

This team is legitimately 2 deep at every position. Jason Terry and Andray Blatche are bothe good enough to start in this league and Andrei Kirilenko and Reggie Evans were starters last season. Alan Anderson, Mirza Teletovic and Mason Plumlee are also capable of playing productive minutes off the bench.

I don't think I've ever seen a team this deep.
Oh lord :roll:

[The JKidd Kid]

Deep? Sure

Not good enough on the top? Yep

They probably have the best all around starting 5 in the league too. :lol

[jzek]

Heat in 6

No one outside of BKN fans would say that MIA would lose to the Nets in a series. Their core group is all like near 40s and cn barely finish a game LMAO.

[The JKidd Kid]

Heat in 6

No one outside of BKN fans would say that MIA would lose to the Nets in a series. Their core group is all like near 40s and cn barely finish a game LMAO.

Their core group is actually 29, 25 and 31. Shows how much you know. :lol

[TheReal Kendall]

1st round exit

[I<3NBA]

well, they better be, considering how they need that depth :lol

they're gonna be starting their third stringers after all star break

[Lateralus]

Deepest and most expensive team to be a 1st round exit


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Haymaker]

If Pierce and KG were not significantly removed from their primes, yes. Heat are the deepest, bar none.

[russwest0]

Heat in 6

No one outside of BKN fans would say that MIA would lose to the Nets in a series. Their core group is all like near 40s and cn barely finish a game LMAO.

Who said anything about the Heat?

Heat fans insecure already!!!

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[The JKidd Kid]

Who said anything about the Heat?

Heat fans insecure already!!!

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Nets haters are out in force tonight :lol

[All Net]

Very deep team no doubt but the fact there best player is Deron makes me doubt them even beating any of the top 3 in the east.

[SacJB Shady]

If they were in their prime, they'd be the deepest. The Warriors still have the best starting 5.

[Bigsmoke]

They upgraded but come on dude.

The 08 celtics were way deeper

[NumberSix]

Probably the 2011 Bulls. Solid starters and back ups at every position.

Last years Clippers were pretty deep. Miami this year has the potential of being almost excessively deep.

[coin24]

Last years nuggets come to mind, how'd they go in the playoffs again?:lol

[La Frescobaldi]

Deron Williams/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyshawn Taylor
Joe Johnson/ Jason Terry/ Alan Anderson
Paul Peirce/ Andrei Kirilenko/ Toko Shengelia
Kevin Garnett/ Reggie Evans/ Mirza Teletovic
Brook Lopez/ Andray Blatche/ Mason Plumlee

This team is legitimately 2 deep at every position. Jason Terry and Andray Blatche are bothe good enough to start in this league and Andrei Kirilenko and Reggie Evans were starters last season. Alan Anderson, Mirza Teletovic and Mason Plumlee are also capable of playing productive minutes off the bench.

I don't think I've ever seen a team this deep.

the underlying key factors that make this team extremely dangerous. If they keep KG at the 4 Lopez is going to have his work cut out for him; if Garnett plays real minutes at C Nets are going to romp through some games. What teams have a backup C that can compete against Kevin Garnett?
A lot of this team's success is going to revolve around on Reggie Evans. He should play a LOT of minutes.

Think about how many SF are key elements of their teams.
It's going to be real interesting; Paul Pierce forcing teams to think real defensively, so after 2 or 3 quarters that star SF is wearing down some......... and then suddenly Kirelenko shows up with his astonishing full throttle defense and shuts the guy down offensively at key times in the game?
Yeah barring injuries the Nets will be real dangerous.

[tpols]

Very deep team no doubt but the fact there best player is Deron makes me doubt them even beating any of the top 3 in the east.
Indianas best player was paul george and they took miami to 7 last year:confusedshrug:

Dwill is hardly worse than rose.. and just as good as george. And the rest of the BK team is more stacked with talent and experience/leadership than both bulls or indy so...

[It's A VC3!!!]

Very deep team no doubt but the fact there best player is Deron makes me doubt them even beating any of the top 3 in the east.
They beat the pacers 3-0 last season. both teams improved but no way we are worse than the pacers with our improvements. I don't get the hate on deron. He was playing with a season long injury the past two seasons and still put up 18/8. Since when was that ever not great from a player? And he had 11/2 tonight in just 10 minutes of play and said himself that he's finally healthy after two years. He's going to be our "engine", as coach Kidd referred to last night.

[niko]

I'd rather have the athleticism and youth of Chicago and Indiana than the better talent of the Nets. Saying that puts Nets slightly behind best teams so don't take it as a huge diss, but you get to the playoffs and the young legs are a killer though. In May those teams will be fresh and running 100 miles an hour and the Nets will have a bunch of old guys trying to keep up.

[francesco totti]

I'd rather have the athleticism and youth of Chicago and Indiana than the better talent of the Nets. Saying that puts Nets slightly behind best teams so don't take it as a huge diss, but you get to the playoffs and the young legs are a killer though. In May those teams will be fresh and running 100 miles an hour and the Nets will have a bunch of old guys trying to keep up.

Excellent point. This is a young man game..and I expect nets to suffer alot vs those young teams.

[It's A VC3!!!]

I'd rather have the athleticism and youth of Chicago and Indiana than the better talent of the Nets. Saying that puts Nets slightly behind best teams so don't take it as a huge diss, but you get to the playoffs and the young legs are a killer though. In May those teams will be fresh and running 100 miles an hour and the Nets will have a bunch of old guys trying to keep up.
If course you would. You're a Knicks fan. You'll never say anything good about the nets and mean it. Case closed.

Plus, you're insulting coach Kidd by thinking that the older players won't be fresh heading into the playoffs. That's his number one priority and he's smarter than you and I combined when it comes to basketball and I have faith in him.

[niko]

If course you would. You're a Knicks fan. You'll never say anything good about the nets and mean it. Case closed.

Plus, you're insulting coach Kidd by thinking that the older players won't be fresh heading into the playoffs. That's his number one priority and he's smarter than you and I combined when it comes to basketball and I have faith in him.
Old is old. Net fans keep saying their old players won't be old come playoff time. I'm 41. I sleep, exercise hard, and i'm ****ed up more than younger guys. Spurs do the resting guys things every year. Parker got hurt in finals. Ginobli always gets hurt. Duncan wasn't hurt last year. So it's possible, but it's not likely by any means. You can't make a plan that removes age and injury completely - that's just wishful thinking. Deron got hurt stepping wrong.

I have to be the one to break it to you but this Nets team isn't the top contender in the East. The Knicks looked really good till we ran into younger and faster Indiana over seven games. In the playoffs it's a tough look when the other team is beating you back on defense and down the court on offense.

The Nets look like fourth best in the East right now, sorry if that offends your sensibilities. Let me remind you that we had this conversation last year and you told me how much better the Nets were than the Knicks. How did that work out?

[poido123]

Probably the 2011 Bulls. Solid starters and back ups at every position.

Last years Clippers were pretty deep. Miami this year has the potential of being almost excessively deep.


Since when do you give credit to Bulls teams? :oldlol:

[It's A VC3!!!]

The Nets look like fourth best in the East right now, sorry if that offends your sensibilities. Let me remind you that we had this conversation last year and you told me how much better the Nets were than the Knicks. How did that work out?

It does offend my sensibilities. For one, we're better than the Pacers and my fear level against them is a 1.5 out of 10. The Bulls are scary but we lost to them last season because our isolation basketball fed right into their tenacious defense. I don't know if you've watched any of our games in the preseason but our offense is a beautiful work of art. Freelance offense which led to Paul and Joe hitting three after three last game and the entire preseason. I'm not worried about any team in the east. They are going to be easy. Honestly, I'm worried about the Rockets and Warriors the most, if anything.

[niko]

Since when do you give credit to Bulls teams? :oldlol:
Since the Nets got on Lebron's radar.

[The JKidd Kid]

It does offend my sensibilities. For one, we're better than the Pacers and my fear level against them is a 1.5 out of 10. The Bulls are scary but we lost to them last season because our isolation basketball fed right into their tenacious defense. I don't know if you've watched any of our games in the preseason but our offense is a beautiful work of art. Freelance offense which led to Paul and Joe hitting three after three last game and the entire preseason. I'm not worried about any team in the east. They are going to be easy. Honestly, I'm worried about the Rockets and Warriors the most, if anything.

I completely agree. The only team that I think we wouldn't be able to beat in a play off series when completely healthy is the Bulls. I'm not afraid of the Warriors at all, but I really wouldn't want to see Dwight molest Lopez in a series.

The Pacers are overrated. People forget that if it wasn't for the fact that the Pacers won their division, we would've been the 3rd seed in the playoffs since we swept the season series. Also, out additions are 1000 times better than the Pacers additions.

KG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Granger
Peirce>>>>>>>>>>>>Scola
Kirilenko>>>>>>>>>>>> CJ Watson(lol)
Terry>>>Copeland
Rest of our bench additions>>>>>> whatever other scrubs the Pacers added.

[It's A VC3!!!]

^
Yea, Brook needs to really start manning up. I'm not going to make any more excuses for him. I want to see him take advantage of much smaller centers by planting his 290 pound ass deep in the post rather than trying to shoot jumpers. He shot three jump shots last night and one was a fade-a-way airball. This guy is a completely comical lackadaisical player that does not give a shit about anything. He gave up like 20 points on P&R's too. I'd much rather have Dwight.
Brook is going to have his fair share of great games but he needs to take advantage of smaller centers and not be a bitch. Otherwise, why the heck did he add 15 pounds this summer if all he wants to do is shoot jumpers.

[poido123]

Since the Nets got on Lebron's radar.

Pretty much.

To be honest, nobody really knows how this Nets team will be come playoffs. They could be really really good, or they can be old and past it like everyone seems to elude to.

I'm in the IF HEALTHY, this Nets team can beat anyone.

You can't deny they are deep and talented though :confusedshrug:

[niko]

If you don't want dissenting opinions keep your reassurance topics in the Net forum. The Pacers are nasty, and the Knicks did well against them regular season, but playoffs where a team gets you down pat and has you every day is a different animal. Young and Athletic is a good look and it's something that will give the Nets problems. Period.

[niko]

Pretty much.

To be honest, nobody really knows how this Nets team will be come playoffs. They could be really really good, or they can be old and past it like everyone seems to elude to.

I'm in the IF HEALTHY, this Nets team can beat anyone.

You can't deny they are deep and talented though :confusedshrug:
I never did. I'd rather be talented, young, athletic,less deep than talented, deep, and not young and athletic. Miami isn't very deep at all. The nets need depth to address their shortcomings, but people want to deny there are any shortcomings.

[Trollsmasher]

The Heat are going to feast on this old and slow team in the PO.

Anyone remember the last time PP faced LeBron in PO?:lol

[poido123]

I never did. I'd rather be talented, young, athletic,less deep than talented, deep, and not young and athletic. Miami isn't very deep at all. The nets need depth to address their shortcomings, but people want to deny there are any shortcomings.

None of those "old" players will have to play heavy minutes during the reg season. Hell, they could play their bench for half the year and still make the playoffs. I agree, you can't fight aging in basketball but the key to old players playing at a high level(look at Duncan in the playoffs last year) is how much rest they get leading up to the playoffs.

There's a good chance guys like Pierce and Garnett will get nights off on back to backs during the year. I don't see any shortcomings for the Nets, their team is so deep they overcome the likelyhood of injuries and fatigue.

[It's A VC3!!!]

I never did. I'd rather be talented, young, athletic,less deep than talented, deep, and not young and athletic. Miami isn't very deep at all. The nets need depth to address their shortcomings, but people want to deny there are any shortcomings.
I don't know how two players make the entire team old. For anyone that calls the Nets old, change your post to say "Paul and Kevin are old".

Brook is 25. Deron is 29. Joe is 32. How come nobody talks about their youth at those three positions?

And the "Nets" being old is the SOLE REASON why they will win the championship this year. We're in it to win it. Our window is this season.:rockon:

Knicks need the reality check. ESPN has them winning 37 games. I'm starting to agree with them.:lol

[poido123]

The Heat are going to feast on this old and slow team in the PO.

Anyone remember the least time PP faced LeBron?:lol

You are such a simpleton, which is why most people on here don't bother trying to explain shit to you.

PP carried a lot more responsibility and minutes in the reg season and playoffs for Celtics. With the Nets, he will be fresh and not relied on to do so much.

You will be in for a rude awakening if you and the Heat take the Nets lightly.

[It's A VC3!!!]

None of those "old" players will have to play heavy minutes during the reg season. Hell, they could play their bench for half the year and still make the playoffs. I agree, you can't fight aging in basketball but the key to old players playing at a high level(look at Duncan in the playoffs last year) is how much rest they get leading up to the playoffs.

There's a good chance guys like Pierce and Garnett will get nights off on back to backs during the year. I don't see any shortcomings for the Nets, their team is so deep they overcome the likelyhood of injuries and fatigue.
THANK YOU KIND SIR. Niko, this is the logic that you should demonstrate except that your mind is jaded with "Love Knicks, hate Nets" deficiency.

Good analysis, poido123.:applause:

[Reggie43]

I completely agree. The only team that I think we wouldn't be able to beat in a play off series when completely healthy is the Bulls. I'm not afraid of the Warriors at all, but I really wouldn't want to see Dwight molest Lopez in a series.

The Pacers are overrated. People forget that if it wasn't for the fact that the Pacers won their division, we would've been the 3rd seed in the playoffs since we swept the season series. Also, out additions are 1000 times better than the Pacers additions.

KG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Granger
Peirce>>>>>>>>>>>>Scola
Kirilenko>>>>>>>>>>>> CJ Watson(lol)
Terry>>>Copeland
Rest of our bench additions>>>>>> whatever other scrubs the Pacers added.

You think the Pacers are overrated? Then tell me how you would correctly rate a team that was a win away from going to the Nba Finals last year.

[Trollsmasher]

You are such a simpleton, which is why most people on here don't bother trying to explain shit to you.

PP carried a lot more responsibility and minutes in the reg season and playoffs for Celtics. With the Nets, he will be fresh and not relied on to do so much.

You will be in for a rude awakening if you and the Heat take the Nets lightly.
I don't need a ******* like you, who can't distinguish basketball from balls of a 12 year old boy, explain the game to me.

I see you are already jumping the Bulls ship tho:lol You should probably chose another team than the Nets. Their mediocre depth won't take them anywhere.

[niko]

THANK YOU KIND SIR. Niko, this is the logic that you should demonstrate except that your mind is jaded with "Love Knicks, hate Nets" deficiency.

Good analysis, poido123.:applause:
The Spurs do that every year. Last year Duncan looked great. In other years not so great. They also rested Parker and Ginobili, who both got hurt despite the rest. It hasn't worked for them every time. That's just false.

Rest might work, it might not. The Spurs are a great example of that. This is not what you are saying. What you are saying is if you rest Garnett, 100% he will be great for the playoffs. That's wishful thinking.

Essentially you want me to say the Nets have no weaknesses, no shortcomings, and will cruise to a title. Good luck with that analysis.

[poido123]

I don't need a ******* like you, who can't distinguish basketball from balls of a 12 year old boy, explain the game to me.

I see you are already jumping the Bulls ship tho:lol You should probably chose another team than the Nets. Their mediocre depth won't take them anywhere.


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[Trollsmasher]

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Is it you in your molest bus?

[poido123]

Is it you in your molest bus?


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[boozehound]

not as deep as the early 00 trailblazers. and that third string is junk. but yes, they are pretty damn deep across the frontcourt. The bench guards are a little meh (terry is old and not as good as he was just 2 years ago, livingston is one of those who never achieved what he could have and he wont start now). Still, nets fans should be very excited about this squad

[The JKidd Kid]

You think the Pacers are overrated? Then tell me how you would correctly rate a team that was a win away from going to the Nba Finals last year.

They matched up well against the Heat. I'm saying that people are expecting them to win more games than the Nets last season, even though there is no basis.

[Fresh Kid]

nets are deep on paper but won't go deep in reality. big damn difference:no:

[NugzFan]

Here we go again...fans talking about how deep their team is because they can simply name 15 players on the roster.

Having a bench doesn't make you deep. Every team has a bench.

[Eric Cartman]

Here we go again...fans talking about how deep their team is because they can simply name 15 players on the roster.

Having a bench doesn't make you deep. Every team has a bench.

Not every team is the Nuggets. Look at last year's Pacers for example. Bench was a non factor.

[Fresh Kid]

Here we go again...fans talking about how deep their team is because they can simply name 15 players on the roster.

Having a bench doesn't make you deep. Every team has a bench.
thank u:facepalm tell dem delusional niguhs sumthing:coleman:

[Pointguard]

in playoffs, u go 8 - 9 man deep.
having core of players playing long together brings stability too...rather then changing rotations constantly. some times depth hurts like that in terms of chemistry

I agree with what you said in general but I can see the Nets flat out using a second unit because defense will be a premium and the starters are old enough to know how to contribute when they are in the game. The Nets will be one team, healthy Chicago being the other, that can apply 48 minutes of pressure. That gets you wins.

[NugzFan]

Not every team is the Nuggets. Look at last year's Pacers for example. Bench was a non factor.

What does this have to do with Denver? Even if we were deep, half our team isn't playing.

[INDI]

Heat in 6

No one outside of BKN fans would say that MIA would lose to the Nets in a series. Their core group is all like near 40s and cn barely finish a game LMAO.

The funny thing about this response is it is typical. The nets have put together such a flawless roster that people result to arguments about possible injuries and their coach.


Imo job well done when u cant think of how the heat can beat them wothout hoping for injuries and bad substitutions

[Reggie43]

They matched up well against the Heat. I'm saying that people are expecting them to win more games than the Nets last season, even though there is no basis.

Are the Nets some sort of gold standard last season that the Pacers didnt have a chance to surpass in terms of wins?
Pacers having the 5th best record in the whole nba the year before not enough basis for you?

Pacers were the more proven team last season so its understandable that some people might pick them over a Nets team that were adding new players that had no experience playing with each other and was still trying to build chemistry

Bottom line the Pacers won more games than the Nets when it mattered most which was in the playoffs.

[MMM]

Yea in the playoffs teams usually go 8-9 deep but a great coach can make a very good regular season 10-12 man bench into a great 8-9 man bench. For example, a coach that can manage his bench roles and match them up round for round or finding/riding a hot hand can allow him to mix and match round by round. That is going to be the challenge for Kidd this season.

Also is Deron Williams really the best net??? I think Lopez has more impact on winning games and KG's leadership/defensive role will also potentially have more impact than what Williams brings.

[La Frescobaldi]

Yea in the playoffs teams usually go 8-9 deep but a great coach can make a very good regular season 10-12 man bench into a great 8-9 man bench. For example, a coach that can manage his bench roles and match them up round for round or finding/riding a hot hand can allow him to mix and match round by round. That is going to be the challenge for Kidd this season.

Also is Deron Williams really the best net??? I think Lopez has more impact on winning games and KG's leadership/defensive role will also potentially have more impact than what Williams brings.

Lopez is one of the question marks. If he's forced into tons of time on the court the Nets are likely to droop by end of season.

[NugzFan]

The funny thing about this response is it is typical. The nets have put together such a flawless roster that people result to arguments about possible injuries and their coach.


Imo job well done when u cant think of how the heat can beat them wothout hoping for injuries and bad substitutions

Flawless roster?

[qrich]

Yes, the Nets are the greatest team and they will go 71-1 with an intentional loss to the 76ers to ensure that Utah and Phoenix have worse records and Wiggins doesn't stay in the same division :rolleyes:

They made good additions for this season, but chemistry may still be an issue and they still have plenty of question marks. They may end up as high as #2 in the East, but I still have them penciled in at #4 behind Miami, Indiana and the Bulls.

Indiana will get another year of improvement from George and Hibbert, while adding Scola, Watson and essentially Granger as well. The Bulls also will get improvement from Jimmy Butler and added the league's #2 point guard in Derrick Rose, to boot.

[Flash31]

in playoffs, u go 8 - 9 man deep.
having core of players playing long together brings stability too...rather then changing rotations constantly. some times depth hurts like that in terms of chemistry

it messes with team chemistry for sure
The Clippers were prime ex,playing without Butler,Hill
and playing good then they had to integrate them into the game and they didnt a great job,messed with the chemistry and changed the outlook and playing style of the Clippers

They suffered from the same thing the Grizz did when they had Rudy Gay

Most playoff teams go 7-9 players deep
and stick to a core a group playing 30-38 min

In rs being deep helps,takes load of your stars,less wear and tear,team chemistry but in the po the load is on the stars and major players
and when you go from playing 25-30 min to your major players having to play
35-40 min,its quite a change gor the team and messes with chemistry,playing style,increased pressure

Your 10th man wont do much if hes going up against stars and major players
And when youre playing your bench against a teams top
it wont bode well to what happens

Even the spurs werent that deep
they played off TP,Duncan,Kawhi
Green,Diaw,Ginobli,Tiago all got their 20 min but we saw
what happened when that was done

You had Tiago covering Wade,didnt turn out to well
Duncan couldnt get a rest
Once TP came out the Spurs couldnt control the offense well
Ginobli got abused,
And if it wasnt for green being goat shooter the spurs
would have had to play 35-40 min,40+ min with TP
and Duncan

[BoutPractice]

The definition of going all in... Still unlikely to land them a championship this year, as championship teams tend to be superstar led (no Nets player is All NBA first or second team caliber except for maybe Lopez at center, and he's not what I would call a superstar). It's not ALWAYS the case, but most of the time it is... and when there are exceptions, it's usually in a transitional era or due to a win against a star-laden team but one that lacks chemistry.

[HomieWeMajor]

Deron Williams/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyshawn Taylor
Joe Johnson/ Jason Terry/ Alan Anderson
Paul Peirce/ Andrei Kirilenko/ Toko Shengelia
Kevin Garnett/ Reggie Evans/ Mirza Teletovic
Brook Lopez/ Andray Blatche/ Mason Plumlee

This team is legitimately 2 deep at every position. Jason Terry and Andray Blatche are bothe good enough to start in this league and Andrei Kirilenko and Reggie Evans were starters last season. Alan Anderson, Mirza Teletovic and Mason Plumlee are also capable of playing productive minutes off the bench.

I don't think I've ever seen a team this deep.
Damn right they're deep
6 feet under deep