Mountain Lion vs. Windows 8.1

[IGOTGAME]

Fora. Few years I've heard most of the people I know just blindly say that Mac was a better operating system. I'm in the store a few minutes ago trying to decide between a Mac and a Windows 8 machine and i started to wonder....is this still true?

The one thing I like about Mac is th way they handle DPI scaling compared to windos and the fact that I can bootcamp.

Can someone give a quick pros and cons of each operating system?

[Jameerthefear]

If you're a gamer don't even think about going the Mac route. Too many hoops to jump through.

[Bandito]

If you're a gamer don't even think about going the Mac route. Too many hoops to jump through.
This pretty much it. Mac is just better at everything.

[IGOTGAME]

If you're a gamer don't even think about going the Mac route. Too many hoops to jump through.

Not a pc gamer. If anything I might play a couple of games. Nothing I'd base my decision on tho.

[IGOTGAME]

This pretty much it. Mac is just better at everything.
Windows 8.1 seems better at multitasking. Snap seems to be implemented really well.

Apple's biggest selling point to me was actually AppleCare.

[outbreak]

Apples machines are more standardised and so the OS can run nicely on whatever apple system you get whereas windows may be shit depending on your hardware.

Apple's prices are just retarded though and the restrictions their software puts on you are crazy which is why I avoid their products.

They just announced new lowered prices here, their base macbook pro is selling for a couple hundred bucks more than I paid for a higher speced dell laptop 2 years ago. The only update is it's a newer intel series of chips but it's a slower and lower speced chip

[KevinNYC]

Also the latest Mac OS just came out, it's called Mavericks.

Windows 8 was designed for a touch interface, that's probably a pretty big deal if you are getting a touchscreen. For a lot of Windows users they went too far in that direction and 8.1 is bringing back a lot of the old ways.

If you get Windows 8 take the 10 or 15 minutes to learn how it does things, if you don't you're going to be annoyed. Windows 8 is pretty speedy.

[The_Yearning]

Windows 8 = garbage.

Mavericks isn't all that different from Mountain Lion. Better battery and better efficiency on the macbooks.

Anytime someone is contemplating windows vs Mac, the only thing their contemplating is should I fork over all this dough for a Mac?

And the answer is, if you have it, yes. Mac is better.

[IGOTGAME]

Windows 8 = garbage.

Mavericks isn't all that different from Mountain Lion. Better battery and better efficiency on the macbooks.

Anytime someone is contemplating windows vs Mac, the only thing their contemplating is should I fork over all this dough for a Mac?

And the answer is, if you have it, yes. Mac is better.
The windows laptop I would get is more expensive than the mac. I'm looking at the Samsung Ativ Book 9 plus vs the 13 inch MacBook Pro retina. I just don't get why people are saying Windows 8.1 is so bad?

IMO the samsung is a sleeker machine and windows seems to handle multitasking better. The cons are it doesn't have AppleCare, bad dpi scaling and for me...it's just all new.

Idk...just trying to get to why everyone thinks windows 8.1 is so bad...

[fiddy]

What about Windows 7

[IGOTGAME]

What about Windows 7

Don't want that. I actually like the direction that Windows is going with Metro. I don't get the resistance to the change.

[rezznor]

The windows laptop I would get is more expensive than the mac. I'm looking at the Samsung Ativ Book 9 plus vs the 13 inch MacBook Pro retina. I just don't get why people are saying Windows 8.1 is so bad?

IMO the samsung is a sleeker machine and windows seems to handle multitasking better. The cons are it doesn't have AppleCare, bad dpi scaling and for me...it's just all new.

Idk...just trying to get to why everyone thinks windows 8.1 is so bad...

i am posting this on an ativbook 9 plus right now. it's a great machine, i do recommend it. coming from a MBA that i couldnt stand. i am considering returning this however for the zenbook infinity if it comes out soon

[The_Yearning]

The windows laptop I would get is more expensive than the mac. I'm looking at the Samsung Ativ Book 9 plus vs the 13 inch MacBook Pro retina. I just don't get why people are saying Windows 8.1 is so bad?

IMO the samsung is a sleeker machine and windows seems to handle multitasking better. The cons are it doesn't have AppleCare, bad dpi scaling and for me...it's just all new.

Idk...just trying to get to why everyone thinks windows 8.1 is so bad...

First off, you didn't mention in your OP what your intentions/uses are with the laptop. Matter of fact with the two you listed it doesn't even matter... go Mac or you'll regret.

[rufuspaul]

The only thing I hate about Mac are all the viruses and malware, said no one, ever.

[Go Getter]

Any thoughts on the OS X Mavericks?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

This pretty much it. Mac is just better at everything.

What is "everything"?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

The windows laptop I would get is more expensive than the mac. I'm looking at the Samsung Ativ Book 9 plus vs the 13 inch MacBook Pro retina. I just don't get why people are saying Windows 8.1 is so bad?

IMO the samsung is a sleeker machine and windows seems to handle multitasking better. The cons are it doesn't have AppleCare, bad dpi scaling and for me...it's just all new.

Idk...just trying to get to why everyone thinks windows 8.1 is so bad...

If it's for a laptop, then Macs generally have the advantage in hardware design, better battery life, and a much better track pad. It really depends on what software you need in the end. I know some people that run Windows on their Macs but I'd recommend against that as it reduces your battery life.

[Lebowsky]

I thought this thread would be about Wilt Chamberlair. Color me disappointed.

[D-Rose]

Windows 8 is the shittiest OS I have ever encountered in my life. Even Vista was better. So ****ing un-user friendly and all they want to do is shove apps down your throat.

[Doctor Rivers]

Windows 8 is the shittiest OS I have ever encountered in my life. Even Vista was better. So ****ing un-user friendly and all they want to do is shove apps down your throat.

lol wrong

[secund2nun]

The only thing I hate about Mac are all the viruses and malware, said no one, ever.

As the amount of Macs has expanded the virus developers have finally began to target Macs.

[secund2nun]

Windows 8 sucks but you can just switch it to 7.

Don't get a mac. Macs are so overpriced. If you really wanna spend 1000-2000 on a laptop you could get a much better laptop than a Mac.

People make the error of comparing a 1500 dollar mac to a 700 dollar windows laptop so obviously the mac will be better, but for 1500 you can get a far superior windows laptop than a 1500 mac laptop.

For 1100 you can get an alienware computer which is far superior than a mac.

[DukeDelonte13]

What is "everything"?


reliability, power consumption, susceptibility to viruses, no driver issues, fewer networking issues, more versatility (you can easily dual boot or emulate windows), the OS is inherently more secure.

But Jameer is right, gaming on anything other than windows sucks if you are into PC gaming.


Like i always say comparing windows to mac is like comparing a mustang or a camaro to a volvo. You can soup up a camaro to make it eat a volvo alive but they are shoddily built and the more tinkering equates to more reliability issues. The volvo is much safer, more luxurious, and more expensive, but is pretty much bulletproof. It will run like new for years.

[rezznor]

reliability, power consumption, susceptibility to viruses, no driver issues, fewer networking issues, more versatility (you can easily dual boot or emulate windows), the OS is inherently more secure.

But Jameer is right, gaming on anything other than windows sucks if you are into PC gaming.


Like i always say comparing windows to mac is like comparing a mustang or a camaro to a volvo. You can soup up a camaro to make it eat a volvo alive but they are shoddily built and the more tinkering equates to more reliability issues. The volvo is much safer, more luxurious, and more expensive, but is pretty much bulletproof. It will run like new for years.
not saying macs are bad machines, but an equal value windows machine is comparable if not exceeds that of the mac.


compare the specs of the mba to a samsung ativ book 9 plus or acer s7. read the reviews, they are all very comparable machines with some aspects being better then others. calling the mba a volvo and the samsung a camaro is not accurate. all 3 are like an audi vs benz vs bmw.


i personally prefer either one of the windows machines...i currently own all 3 and like the mac the least.

[DukeDelonte13]

not saying macs are bad machines, but an equal value windows machine is comparable if not exceeds that of the mac.


compare the specs of the mba to a samsung ativ book 9 plus or acer s7. read the reviews, they are all very comparable machines with some aspects being better then others. calling the mba a volvo and the samsung a camaro is not accurate. all 3 are like an audi vs benz vs bmw.


i personally prefer either one of the windows machines...i currently own all 3 and like the mac the least.



its not just about raw stats though... Its how effectively and efficiently the OS uses the power, that combined with the fact that OSX is designed to only run on very specific hardware, while Windows is designed to run on anything. The people at apple know exactly how their products are going to run, while at windows, X model HP may run windows 8 great, but Y model Dell with similar or identical stats runs it like sh*t. OSX requires a lot more user permissions, so you'll never get unwanted programs or scripts that will just install themselves or just start running like they do on windows. You also never have to keep an antivirus software running in the background.

[rezznor]

its not just about raw stats though... Its how effectively and efficiently the OS uses the power, that combined with the fact that OSX is designed to only run on very specific hardware, while Windows is designed to run on anything. The people at apple know exactly how their products are going to run, while at windows, X model HP may run windows 8 great, but Y model Dell with similar or identical stats runs it like sh*t. OSX requires a lot more user permissions, so you'll never get unwanted programs or scripts that will just install themselves or just start running like they do on windows. You also never have to keep an antivirus software running in the background.

I haven't had a virus in i don't know how long. all i run is window's built in defender. all that noise about apple products "just working" is a load of bs. i lost count how many times my mac would freeze up.

also, both window's machines have better screens and they are both touchscreens. i didnt think i would be using that feature at all on a laptop, but it has turned out to be quite pleasant and natural to use when scrolling around.

get your windows machine from microsoft directly and it will be free of any bloatware.

the mac does have better battery life, but 9 hours on my samsung is sufficient for my needs.

[kentatm]

Any thoughts on the OS X Mavericks?

Its pretty nice

LOVE that its free

[redhonda76]

Windows 8 is the shittiest OS I have ever encountered in my life. Even Vista was better. So ****ing un-user friendly and all they want to do is shove apps down your throat.

Goes to show you how much you know about technology. Typical Apple-only fanboy?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

reliability, power consumption, susceptibility to viruses, no driver issues, fewer networking issues, more versatility (you can easily dual boot or emulate windows), the OS is inherently more secure.

But Jameer is right, gaming on anything other than windows sucks if you are into PC gaming.


Like i always say comparing windows to mac is like comparing a mustang or a camaro to a volvo. You can soup up a camaro to make it eat a volvo alive but they are shoddily built and the more tinkering equates to more reliability issues. The volvo is much safer, more luxurious, and more expensive, but is pretty much bulletproof. It will run like new for years.

None of that means anything if the OS doesn't support the software you need.

Reliability is quite a vague term. What exactly are you referring to here? As for using bootcamp to run Windows, well you're comparing the hardware now. The discussion was to compare the two OS's. If you're going to end up running Windows on your Mac laptop, you lose one of its main advantages, which is battery life.

[D-Rose]

Goes to show you how much you know about technology. Typical Apple-only fanboy?
I have never owned a Mac before...my new MBA is coming in the mail though. Used Windows my entire life. Windows 7 is fantastic. I had to use my sister's laptop with 8 on it for a week and nearly killed my self at how painful it was.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I have never owned a Mac before...my new MBA is coming in the mail though. Used Windows my entire life. Windows 7 is fantastic. I had to use my sister's laptop with 8 on it for a week and nearly killed my self at how painful it was.

It's essentially the same after a few adjustments. Disable all the start menu and metro crap, and change the default apps (seriously, what were they thinking with full-screen apps?) and you get a better version of Windows 7.

[PHX_Phan]

Macbooks aren't as overpriced as many make it out to be when everything is considered. The materials and build quality are much nicer than most other computer brands, the track pads are nice and they hold up well to wear and tear.

I paid $1200 for a nice Windows laptop and got nice hardware wrapped in painted plastic.

As far as cars go, it's like an M3 to a rusty old Camaro with a new LS7. :lol

[rezznor]

Macbooks aren't as overpriced as many make it out to be when everything is considered. The materials and build quality are much nicer than most other computer brands, the track pads are nice and they hold up well to wear and tear.

I paid $1200 for a nice Windows laptop and got nice hardware wrapped in painted plastic.

As far as cars go, it's like an M3 to a rusty old Camaro with a new LS7. :lol
you didn't do your research. the samsung, acer, asus, and sony laptops in that price range all use premium materials

[PHX_Phan]

you didn't do your research. the samsung, acer, asus, and sony laptops in that price range all use premium materials

Asus is the only brand out of that I'd go for.

[KeylessEntry]

Macbooks aren't as overpriced as many make it out to be when everything is considered. The materials and build quality are much nicer than most other computer brands, the track pads are nice and they hold up well to wear and tear.

I paid $1200 for a nice Windows laptop and got nice hardware wrapped in painted plastic.

As far as cars go, it's like an M3 to a rusty old Camaro with a new LS7. :lol

Compared to the equivalent windows laptop, a brand new 13" macbook retina for $1300 is reasonably priced.

Let me also say that touch screen laptops are stupid, and that seems to be the direction that windows laptops are going. Why bother having a keyboard and touchpad at all if you are going to have a touch screen? Why would you want to get fingerprints all over your laptop display?