Why didnt Young Jordan shut down Isiah Thomas?

[unbreakable]

Kobe shut down Ivo when the moment called for it.. Kobe also shut down Rondo, Westbrook, TP, etc. Lebron also killed Tony last Finals..

Why didn't Young Jordan stop the dominant Isiah Thomas? :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

Kobe shut down Ivo when the moment called for it.. Kobe also shut down Rondo, Westbrook, TP, etc. Lebron also killed Tony last Finals..

Why didn't Young Jordan stop the dominant Isiah Thomas? :confusedshrug:
:kobe:

[unbreakable]

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[scm5]

:kobe:

I think he's talking about AI in Denver in a game where AI seemingly couldn't miss... until Kobe switched onto him and he barely scored anything after that.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712050DEN.html

I believe this was the game. AI was torching Fish and Farmar... dropped 49 on them in 3 quarters.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/200712050DEN.html

Check out the recap, Kobe switched onto AI in the 4th and shut him down. AI scored 2 pts in the 4th, including blocking a 3 by AI.

[Trollsmasher]

When did Jordan shut down anybody?:confusedshrug:

All I remember is Pippen switching on the guys...

[jzek]

Why does Kobe have 5 rings but only 2 FMVPs?

[macmac]

Why did the chick cross the road?


Because Kobe was about to rape her

[OldSchoolBBall]

Kobe shut down Ivo when the moment called for it.. Kobe also shut down Rondo, Westbrook, TP, etc. Lebron also killed Tony last Finals..

Why didn't Young Jordan stop the dominant Isiah Thomas? :confusedshrug:

Err, he did, a few times actually (though mostly for quarters or halves, but the game below he was on him the majority of the time). Here's one such games:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198905270CHI.html

2-8 FG, 5 points. Isiah couldn't do anything when MJ was on him that game - Jordan really limited his penetration; the majority of Isiah's assists came off of good off-ball movement by the Piston wings (Dumars and VJ). And Jordan did this job defensively despite having 46 pts/7 reb/5 ast/5 stl and the game-winning shot over Rodman and Isiah.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Stop

MJ, Kobe, and LeBron are all terrific defenders. And I've seen them all shut down great, dynamic opposing offensive threats. In the playoffs or otherwise.

http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/sneakers/images/michael%20jordan%20air%20jordan%208%20defense.jpg

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/06/defensive.team/kobe-defense.jpg

http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2013/05/13/051313-NBA-LeBron-James-against-Indiana-Pacers-PI-BR_20130513210850716_660_320.JPG

[juju151111]

Mj did shut him down in 90. He shot like 36% with Mj on him. Darealist had it on YouTube and they took it down.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Mj did shut him down in 90. He shot like 36% with Mj on him. Darealist had it on YouTube and they took it down.
Agreed. Plus watching 34 year old MJ lock up Rod Strickland in the '97 playoffs v.s. the Bullets. They took that one down as well. Or on the possessions he guarded Iverson in '97 and '98 giving the kid absolute fits. Iverson even commented on when he gave him his best move with that crossover, MJ still almost recovered and blocked his shot.

[Dr. Ice]

Stop

MJ, Kobe, and LeBron are all terrific defenders. And I've seen them all shut down great, dynamic opposing offensive threats. In the playoffs or otherwise.

http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/sneakers/images/michael%20jordan%20air%20jordan%208%20defense.jpg

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/06/defensive.team/kobe-defense.jpg

http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2013/05/13/051313-NBA-LeBron-James-against-Indiana-Pacers-PI-BR_20130513210850716_660_320.JPG
Man, is there anything that kobe didnt imitate from MJ? Props to lebron for developing his own identity.

[AintNoSunshine]

MJ>LBJ>>>KB in defense and in general

[TheReal Kendall]

When has a superstar totally shut down another superstar?

It never really happens.

[sportjames23]

When did Jordan shut down anybody?:confusedshrug:

All I remember is Pippen switching on the guys...


Then you don't remember shit. Early on in their careers together, MJ was the guy who floated around on defense, which Doug Collins compared MJ to a free safety.

And there's plenty of videos on YouTube of MJ shutting down guys, like

[sportjames23]

Why did the chick cross the road?


Because Kobe was about to rape her


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[KingLeBronJames]

:kobe:
Iverson shot 41% in the Finals.

[joeyjoejoe]

Kobe shut down Ivo when the moment called for it.. Kobe also shut down Rondo, Westbrook, TP, etc. Lebron also killed Tony last Finals..

Why didn't Young Jordan stop the dominant Isiah Thomas? :confusedshrug:


He didn't shut cp down

[aj1987]

Iverson shot 41% in the Finals.
He shot 42.5% for his career.

[NumberSix]

Iverson shot 41% in the Finals.
Kobe shot 40% in the finals......... and won a FMVP.




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[TheBigVeto]

Why did the chick cross the road?


Because Kobe was about to rape her


:applause: :applause: :applause:

[KingLeBronJames]

Kobe shot 40% in the finals......... and won a FMVP.




:confusedshrug:
Yeah, we all know. What's your point? I'm replying to you giving the expression that you don't think Kobe shut down Iverson.

[aj1987]

Yeah, we all know. What's your point? I'm replying to you giving the expression that you don't think Kobe shut down Iverson.
Kobe didn't "shut him down". AI scored 36 PPG.

[NumberSix]

Yeah, we all know. What's your point? I'm replying to you giving the expression that you don't think Kobe shut down Iverson.
Because he didn't shut him down. Iverson did his usual 30+ PPG on low 40s FG%. Kobe had no effect on Iversons normal output.

:hammerhead:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

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[NumberSix]

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You'd think you could shoot better than 20% with all of the defense focused on Shaq.

[joeyjoejoe]

Post injury paul coming off his worse season due to injury put up 22 on .545, 6.7, 11.5, 1.8 the year west went down right b4 playoffs

[The Iron Fist]

Man, is there anything that kobe didnt imitate from MJ? Props to lebron for developing his own identity.
Yup. Losing in playoffs with HCA is developing your own identity. Getting swept out of the finals is developing your own identity. Losing in the finals as heavy favorites, is developing your own identity. Going 2-2 in the finals with more losses than wins, is developing your own identity. :cheers:

[aj1987]

Yup. Losing in playoffs with HCA is developing your own identity. Getting swept out of the finals is developing your own identity. Losing in the finals as heavy favorites, is developing your own identity. Going 2-2 in the finals with more losses than wins, is developing your own identity. :cheers:
Having a better career, while playing 7 less seasons is developing your own identity. :cheers:

[The Iron Fist]

Having a better career, while playing 7 less seasons is developing your own identity. :cheers:


Going 2-2 in the finals, while having 10 ppg less than you did in the regular season, is better?:roll:

[aj1987]

Going 2-2 in the finals, while having 10 ppg less than you did in the regular season, is better?:roll:
You really want to talk about Finals performances? :oldlol: '00, '04, '08, and '10 Game 7?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe's 2000, 2001, 2004, 2008, and 2010

LeBron's 2007, 2011, and 2013

What's the difference? All were shitty Finals performances.

[Soundwave]

I don't think people really realize how good Isiah Thomas was.

Crap exec for the Knicks, sore loser, but one hell of a player.

[aj1987]

Kobe's 2000, 2001, 2004, 2008, and 2010

LeBron's 2007, 2011, and 2013

What's the difference? All were shitty Finals performances.
How is 25/11/7/2/1 on 45/35/80 shitty?

[secund2nun]

Kobe's 2000, 2001, 2004, 2008, and 2010

LeBron's 2007, 2011, and 2013

What's the difference? All were shitty Finals performances.

Lebron in 2013 averaged 25-11-7 on 45 fg% with good D but yes that shitty because he did not average 30 ppg :oldlol: He was great in 2013. Get over it.

Lebron in 2011 was subpar for himself at 17-7-7 on 48% fg but that's still better than most of Kobe's finals :roll:

Lebron in 2007 doesn't mean anything. They had no business being in the finals with that weak cast. It's wayyyyyyy better to lose in the finals than in the first round, something MJ did 3 times while Lebron has never lost in the first round.

[DJ Leon Smith]

A better question would be why was Kobe guarding Rondo when Ray Allen was putting up better numbers in the Finals than the regular season and also doing things like helping the Celtics come back from a 24-point first half deficit on the road.

And why did Rip Hamilton's stats go up when the Lakers lost to the Pistons in the Finals even with Kobe guarding him. Can Kobe not defend pretty good shooting guards who probably won't be in the HOF?

Things to think about. GO TEAM.

[kamil]

When did Jordan shut down anybody?:confusedshrug:

All I remember is Pippen switching on the guys...

Are you being deliberately stupid or do you just have alzheimers?

[Greg Oden 50]

When did Jordan shut down anybody?:confusedshrug:

All I remember is Pippen switching on the guys...

you are too young kid who never watch any game of jordan play other than highlight :roll:

[dd24]

I don't think people really realize how good Isiah Thomas was.

Crap exec for the Knicks, sore loser, but one hell of a player.

:cheers: This is what people are missing. Isiah is one of the greatest PG's of all time. Plus if Jordan would've guarded him, then Joe D would've brought the ball up the court and then who would've guarded him? He couldn't guard them all. Those Pistons teams were just deeper and better overall rosters than the Bulls were for those years they won the titles. Once the Bulls had the better roster and the Pistons got a bit older the rivalry was pretty much done.

[dunksby]

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:lol

[rodman91]

I can remember Iverson's 51, 48, 41,40 and others against Lakers. Iverson was going for finals record so P.Jackson even try to use Tyron Lue on Iverson.

Kobe couldn't guard Iverson at all. Noone could in his prime. He was too fast for bigger guards, too skilled for smaller guards.

[Bigsmoke]

Zeke was no joke