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IncarceratedBob
10-29-2013, 10:10 PM
He looks truly awful out there, he can't score, can't read the defense, can't do squat. He took 18 months to comeback from a 8-11 month injury and he still isn't 100%. It's painfully obvious that this is just who he is now, a 13 point 4 assist kinda guy.

He won an MVP, do you think his young career makes him a top 25 PG of all time?

Also, does he pass Len Bias as the greatest potential spoiled in NBA history?

#number6ix#
10-29-2013, 10:11 PM
Too early home boy

Jameerthefear
10-29-2013, 10:11 PM
ONE GAME. It's one game dude. Come on.

demons2005
10-29-2013, 10:12 PM
I wish there were mods who banned trolls in this forum. Unless this guy is actually stupid enough to think the first game means something he is just trying to get a rise out of people. nothing to see hear just ignore him

lilgodfather1
10-29-2013, 10:16 PM
I'd give it 25 games. If he still looks like this at that point, then it's time to make threads like this. You said it in your OP he took a ton of time off. Hasn't played a real game in nearly a year and a half. He doesn't have lungs behind him. Even a highschool athlete would be having trouble getting back in to game shape if he missed the same amount of time just to work out, no injury. You don't just miss a substantial amount of time and come back at full speed, and Rose looks about 60% speed out there imo.

NumberSix
10-29-2013, 10:16 PM
Rose is a good player. Nothing more.

That being said, he's playing well. He just came back. Give him a little slack.

juju151111
10-29-2013, 10:19 PM
It's one game.

MP.Trey
10-29-2013, 10:21 PM
He looked great physically, was moving well, attacking the basket. Just facing a great defense and it's the first game back. Give him time to get his bearings

R.I.P.
10-29-2013, 10:24 PM
No of course not. He needs time to get into gameshape, but people completely blew his status out of proportion.

Check this out

25.0 PPG
7.7 APG
4.1 RPG
1.0 SPG
44.5% FG
33.2% 3pt FG

Now this

23.2 PPG
7.4 APG
5.2 RPG
1.8 SPG
43.8% FG
32.3% 3pt FG

and this

19.0 PPG
6.5 APG
3.1 RPG
0.9 SPG
42.9% FG
36.8% 3pt FG

One is an MVP season, the other is Westbrook

Goldrush25
10-29-2013, 10:28 PM
I think his play tonight validates his reasoning for sitting out the playoffs. Bulls get blown out in 4 if this guy had suited up for them.

red1
10-29-2013, 10:33 PM
Everyone and their mother knew he would be rusty. Still beasting despite a year off so that just how good the kid is.

AussieG
10-29-2013, 10:40 PM
I wish there were mods who banned trolls in this forum. Unless this guy is actually stupid enough to think the first game means something he is just trying to get a rise out of people. nothing to see hear just ignore him
It means more than all of the games in the preseason combined.

And it's just one game. That shows just how useless presason was.

LilEddyCurry
10-29-2013, 10:41 PM
This dude is rusty and playing against the Heat is not a good combination

demons2005
10-29-2013, 10:42 PM
It means more than all of the games in the preseason combined.

And it's just one game. That shows just how useless presason was.
Neither counts much but I'll take 8 games of dominance over 1 bad night which could just be a bad day and his teammates bricking his kickouts. who knows what happend to rose today off the court or maybe didnt get enough sleep because so excited about the regular season etc. What I saw in the preseason wasn't fake he is gonna dominate this year

RoundMoundOfReb
10-29-2013, 10:43 PM
Rusty. Plus he's going up against one of the most aggressive/trapping defenses in the league. Not exactly a recipe for success.

Brook(lyn)Lopez
10-29-2013, 10:44 PM
Neither counts much but I'll take 8 games of dominance over 1 bad night which could just be a bad day and his teammates bricking his kickouts. who knows what happend to rose today off the court or maybe didnt get enough sleep because so excited about the regular season etc. What I saw in the preseason wasn't fake he is gonna dominate this year

LOL!

Preseason doesn't mean shit, anyone with an ounce of knowledge about the NBA knows that.

It's easy to dominate when you are playing a glorified exhibition game and you want to make a statement after being vilified for not playing ball for over a year.

Nuff Said
10-29-2013, 10:45 PM
didn't he play like this the last time he faced the heat? (and he was 100% healthy) he's just fine, his normal self

Trollsmasher
10-29-2013, 10:46 PM
gamethread wisdom:

The Bulls should look to trade Rose for assets to compliment Butler and Boozer.

Godzuki
10-29-2013, 10:49 PM
theres just no excuse for knowing how off and bad you were, and then trying to be the man in crunch when the game finally got close no thx to you. I can't stand low IQ pg's that don't know when to feed hot hands and not themselves when they're off. low IQ and selfish, even if he has all of the talent in the world.

DaSeba5
10-29-2013, 10:56 PM
He's fine. Remember Miami has a great defense too.

poido123
10-29-2013, 11:03 PM
He's fine. Remember Miami has a great defense too.


Look at all the crazy overreaction troll threads on the main board.

Didn't you say that the forum is generally pretty quiet when the Heat beat Bulls and not viceversa? :lol

DaSeba5
10-29-2013, 11:08 PM
Look at all the crazy overreaction troll threads on the main board.

Didn't you say that the forum is generally pretty quiet when the Heat beat Bulls and not viceversa? :lol

I said it's quiet when Miami wins because people expect them to win. When Miami loses, people always love to pounce on them. It's because they beat the Bulls and Rose who get a lot of threads on their own.

Also that doesn't mean by Heat or Bull fans either

RoseCity07
10-29-2013, 11:12 PM
Even though this is a troll post I'll bite. Rose is back but this is the best team in the NBA. The can close in on Rose because everyone else on Chicago sucks. You notice how they didn't even care Boozer was scoring? That's because Boozer could score 50 and it doesn't lead to a win.

When Rose plays well everyone plays better and Chicago is a better team. Miami is going to focus on stopping Rose every time they play Chicago.

poido123
10-29-2013, 11:13 PM
gamethread wisdom:


You must enjoy talking to yourself.

Literally nobody answers you or interracts with you :lol

http://wp.streetwise.co/wp-content/uploads//2013/05/Get-a-friend-loser.gif

NumberSix
10-29-2013, 11:15 PM
You must enjoy talking to yourself.

Literally nobody answers you or interracts with you :lol

http://wp.streetwise.co/wp-content/uploads//2013/05/Get-a-friend-loser.gif
You're Australian.

imdaman99
10-29-2013, 11:16 PM
That excuse that he played Miami is not holding up. The Heat don't exactly show up in beast mode early in the season, I remember the Knicks blowing them out by 20 early last year. But Rose was definitely rusty, so I'm not willing to say he will never be the same... yet.

ihoopallday
10-29-2013, 11:17 PM
Overreacting after 1 game. ISH trolls are back into top notch form. NBA season is back!!!

Wally450
10-29-2013, 11:20 PM
Some people are ****ing stupid :facepalm

NumberSix
10-29-2013, 11:22 PM
Who will have a better season? Rose or Jennings?

Godzuki
10-30-2013, 12:04 AM
Even though this is a troll post I'll bite. Rose is back but this is the best team in the NBA. The can close in on Rose because everyone else on Chicago sucks. You notice how they didn't even care Boozer was scoring? That's because Boozer could score 50 and it doesn't lead to a win.

When Rose plays well everyone plays better and Chicago is a better team. Miami is going to focus on stopping Rose every time they play Chicago.


boozer was practically unstoppable tonight. To say the Bulls can't win unless Rose gets his is absurd. If Rose is hot then by all means take your shots, if Boozer is hot feed him, if Deng is hot feed him, etc.

Boozer was scoring at will in the paint tonight with his cut moves. that makes no sense how his buckets are so different from anyone elses. Honestly if youre a bulls fan and not just a Rose fan then you shouldn't be too happy with Rose's decision making tonight whatsoever.

I mean i'm not even a bulls fan and i was WTF... this selfish dude...

Dresta
10-30-2013, 12:32 AM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]No of course not. He needs time to get into gameshape, but people completely blew his status out of proportion.

Check this out

25.0 PPG
7.7 APG
4.1 RPG
1.0 SPG
44.5% FG
33.2% 3pt FG

Now this

23.2 PPG
7.4 APG
5.2 RPG
1.8 SPG
43.8% FG
32.3% 3pt FG

and this

19.0 PPG
6.5 APG
3.1 RPG
0.9 SPG
42.9% FG
36.8% 3pt FG

One is an MVP season, the other is Westbrook

NumberSix
10-30-2013, 12:41 AM
This. That MVP award was a travesty, and has completely deluded people as to how good Rose is. Hence why when i claimed it was delusional to think Rose would average 27 on 53/41/80 averages i got a load of abuse thrown my way by delusional Chicago fans.
Not only was Rose undeserving of the #1 spot in that MVP race, he had absolutely no case to even be as high as #3. The 2011 MVP is a complete farce and a stain on the league.

CavaliersFTW
09-30-2015, 03:03 AM
Perhaps, he's out again. Fractured skull.

Gileraracer
09-30-2015, 03:53 AM
Perhaps, he's out again. Fractured skull.

Thanks, didn't read the other 7 threads that aren't 2 years old.