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Inferno
10-30-2013, 01:52 AM
OUR TEAM ISN'T good enough to win and we know it. So this season we want to develop and evaluate our young players, let them learn from their mistakes -- and get us in position to grab a great player. The best way for us to do that is to lose a lot of games. This draft is loaded. There are potential All-Stars at the top, maybe even franchise changers. Sometimes my job is to understand the value of losing.

I know that sounds crazy, but if you're an NBA general manager like me, the last place you want to be is in the middle. There are only two outcomes there: Either make the playoffs and be first-round fodder for one of the premier teams or miss the playoffs and pick somewhere around 11th to 14th in the draft. Either way, the odds are that you stay in that middle range. It's a recipe for disaster.

You need superstars to compete in this league, and the playing field for those guys is tilted toward a few big-market teams. They are demanding trades and getting together and deciding where they want to go in free agency. It's tough for us to compete with that. So a high lottery pick is all we have.

How do you pull it off? First, you talk it over with ownership. I analyzed the team and told them what I wanted to do, the guys I wanted to get rid of and the guys with future value whom we wanted to keep. We obviously traded away some of our veteran guys who gave us a better chance of winning right now for future draft picks and young players. The owners didn't want to tread water any more than I did. They'd rather go down to the bottom with the hope of coming up, so they signed off on it. It wasn't a fight at all. In a different season, it might not make sense, but this draft certainly makes it more appealing.

Our coach understands that too. It's no secret what we're trying to do, and you can't lie to him anyway or you'll lose all trust. We never really had to tell him, because the handwriting is on the wall. He knows exactly what's going on, and he's good with it. What's hard is keeping it from the players. If you took a poll in all 30 locker rooms, regardless of how the roster looks, I bet they'd all say they are a playoff team. That's good, because you want them to play with effort and lose organically. You never tell the players not to try to win a game, but it's obvious that you're putting out a team that's just not good enough to win.

We're not alone. Look at the 76ers. Since the draft in June, I don't think they've signed a player or made a trade to add a legitimate player. A bunch of us realize that our teams aren't good enough talentwise to do anything. You're going to be bad. There's no way around it. And even if you finish 0-82, there's still a 75 percent chance you don't get the No. 1 pick. We're just going to take our lumps and hope our number gets called. - See more at:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9893551/anonymous-nba-gm-why-team-tank-season-espn-magazine


Who you got?

HomieWeMajor
10-30-2013, 01:54 AM
Knicks

Bobcats2013
10-30-2013, 01:57 AM
Hi Sam Hinkie.

christian1923
10-30-2013, 01:58 AM
Boston

BlazerRed
10-30-2013, 02:00 AM
Hi Sam Hinkie.
Mentions his own team acting like it's not his :lol

kennethgriffin
10-30-2013, 02:03 AM
clippers

Scholar
10-30-2013, 02:13 AM
"... the handwriting is on the Wall..." as in John Wall?! It's the Wizards!

BasedTom
10-30-2013, 02:35 AM
It's Boston.

T-Time3
10-30-2013, 02:35 AM
either sam hinkie or danny ainge

DMAVS41
10-30-2013, 02:38 AM
Makes perfect sense.

Really stinks the night in night out on court product of the NBA in the regular season is so poor.

66 games and and a total revamping of the draft process would go a long way to making this league far more enjoyable in the regular season.

Playoffs are amazing though which is great, but the regular season is pretty awful.

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2013, 02:47 AM
I'd also bet on Ainge. The line about trading vets describes no team better than the Celtics.

avonbarksdale
10-30-2013, 02:58 AM
Raptors

Jakeh008
10-30-2013, 03:30 AM
That was the Lakers. Leave your bench if for the whole 4th of a close game

They couldnt even tank right.

SpurrDurr
10-30-2013, 03:34 AM
I know that often tanking is the smart thing to do, but this coming directly from a GM makes it sound really bad.

This regular season will be pure shit.

coin24
10-30-2013, 03:47 AM
Thats great for the paying fans:applause:

Most of those shit franchises have no shot in hell of ever winning a title anyway. Who are they trying to kid?:confusedshrug:
Poorly run teams will still find a way to screw it up no matter who they luck into with the draft.


It could be Orlando also.

dunksby
10-30-2013, 04:06 AM
I'd say it's the 76ers, doubt Boston GM would complain about superstars getting together.

highwhey
10-30-2013, 04:22 AM
It could be any team...phoenix traded away gortat and shannon brown for picks, so it's not just boston.

That's if espn didn't manufacturer this story.

NattyPButter
10-30-2013, 05:30 AM
You guys are so blind...it's the SUNS.

R.I.P.
10-30-2013, 07:02 AM
Isiah Thomas admitted on OpenCourt that he was forced to sit out half the season, so the Pistons could increase their chances for Kidd/Hill.

"They wouldn

kshutts1
10-30-2013, 07:59 AM
Sigh.

Each team gets one chance to win the lottery per loss.

41*30 = 1230 total losses each year (roughly.. there were 1229 last year).

One chance per loss equates to a 72/1229 = 5.8584% chance for an estimate of the last place team this year, and a 20/1229 = 1.6273% chance for the Heat.... er, best team this year.

That difference is large enough, in my mind, to justify allowing ALL teams a shot at the top pick, while still making it fair.

May have to toss in a factor, though, for the years when the worst team has "only" 50-60 losses, which would quite significantly close the gap. The factor, however, would have to be slight. We want to help the bad teams, just not to the extent that there is no incentive to make the playoffs, and not help the bad teams enough to encourage tanking as a viable strategy.

Real Men Wear Green
10-30-2013, 08:47 AM
I'd say it's the 76ers, doubt Boston GM would complain about superstars getting together.
That's not an accurate assessment of what he said though. He commented on players deciding where they got to go, not just players being moved. He no doubt has no problem with the team management putting trades together to improve the team, that's not the disadvantage being referred to. This is about how the Heat stars chose to join up and the difficult position Orlando, Denver, and future teams with stars that want out will be in.

yobore
10-30-2013, 11:57 AM
Good for them and their fans. Watching young players lose is actually more fun than watching average veterans tread water because the fans are excited about the future.

TheReturn
10-30-2013, 12:31 PM
Phoenix seems most likely to me.

livingby3's
10-30-2013, 12:33 PM
While reading this, I thought of my Suns too. If the article is true anyway. Suns traded Luis Scola, Marcin Gortat, Shannon Brown, Jared Dudley, then Caron Butler, for lots of young dudes and picks.

gts
10-30-2013, 12:38 PM
I'd also bet on Ainge. The line about trading vets describes no team better than the Celtics.That was my first thought