Why the D'Antoni Hire just might be Genius

[JtotheIzzo]

The guy makes chicken salad out of chicken shit.

He takes other people`s waste and turns it into treasure.

He made Amare into a top ten player
He got Nash multiple MVPs
He made Joe Johnson one of the most sought after wing man
He made Raja Bell an elite wing player
He made Leandro Barbosa into a legit threat
He made Boris Diaw into a stat filling machine
He made Shawn Marion an all star
He made Jeremy Lin a world beater
He made Raymond Felton less fat


He is the perfect guy for this Laker squad, and helping to put these lost soul players in the position to succeed.

Johnson
Henry
Farmar

will all have career years.

[Jyap9675]

True, he's pretty good in transforming players. But other than that, he hasn't delivered a championship

[JtotheIzzo]

True, he's pretty good in transforming players. But other than that, he hasn't delivered a championship

Only 3 active coaches have

[SacJB Shady]

he has his niche

[RidonKs]

this is the lakers. being competitive with an undermanned roster doesn't matter to that city or that organization. they ditched brown and hired d'antoni at a time everybody was still expecting a high end contender. impossible to say if a different coach actually has any success with last year's roster but there are few who were considered who would have done worse at the helm than d'antoni did... mike brown included.

it was a crappy hire whether they win 25 games or 45 games this season.

[Eric Cartman]

this is the lakers. being competitive with an undermanned roster doesn't matter to that city or that organization. they ditched brown and hired d'antoni at a time everybody was still expecting a high end contender. impossible to say if a different coach actually has any success with last year's roster but there are few who were considered who would have done worse at the helm than d'antoni did... mike brown included.

it was a crappy hire whether they win 25 games or 45 games this season.

They had a 6'10 center dragging them down tho ...

[alenleomessi]

yeah he is perfect for this lakers team

they probably win at least 45 games

[DukeDelonte13]

no team has ever won a championship without at least a top 8 NBA defense.

[Real Men Wear Green]

One game erases the complete failure to utilize Howard and Gasol properly and taking one of the most talented teams in the league to the 8th seed?

No, it was not genius.

[Haymaker]

I like this Lakers team. They're athletic and hungry to prove themselves. I fear Kobe will **** up the chemistry when he comes back.

[BoutPractice]

Lakers fan expect nothing short of a championship pretty much every year, and D'Antoni is not a championship coach in the sense of bringing a championship attitude and culture to his club, with a focus on defense and a demanding, detail-oriented approach. He can make an irrelevant team relevant, but that's never been the Lakers' problem.

[Eric Cartman]

Lakers fan expect nothing short of a championship pretty much every year, and D'Antoni is not a championship coach in the sense of bringing a championship attitude and culture to his club, with a focus on defense and a demanding, detail-oriented approach. He can make an irrelevant team relevant, but that's never been the Lakers' problem.

It is this year.

[BoutPractice]

Why would you want to be relevant when you can get great assets in next year's draft and possibly land a coveted FA at the same time?

[STATUTORY]

he's a niche coach, great at elevating certain players but also diminishes others

he didn't fit the roster last year but he's a great coach for the talent on the team this year

[r15mohd]

They had a 6'10 center dragging them down tho ...


it wasn't the center dragging them down, that same coach (D'Antoni) didn't utilize D12 or Gasol in any way effective to help the Lakers win consistently...simple as that. run the ball through either of the bigs (who are proven scorers) and pretty sure success was imminent. instead they let Kobe handle the ball majority of the time...not even Nash, you know an assist happy player :facepalm

when Kobe returns, we'll see if this upbeat play exists to produce this high-output or they lay the red carpet out for him and allow him to chuck away most of the shot clock

[Blue&Orange]

The guy makes chicken salad out of chicken shit.

He takes other people`s waste and turns it into treasure.

He made Amare into a top ten player
He got Nash multiple MVPs
He made Joe Johnson one of the most sought after wing man
He made Raja Bell an elite wing player
He made Leandro Barbosa into a legit threat
He made Boris Diaw into a stat filling machine
He made Shawn Marion an all star
He made Jeremy Lin a world beater
He made Raymond Felton less fat


He is the perfect guy for this Laker squad, and helping to put these lost soul players in the position to succeed.

Johnson
Henry
Farmar

will all have career years.
This thread is more dumb than the Boozer mvp thread. At leat that one was a joke thread.

fluke win first game of season >>>>>>>> Biggest failed season in the history of the NBA :lol

It was the bench guys that gave LA the win, any normal intelligent person would reason D'Antoni is dumb for having the best players in the bench, yet somehow he is called a genius. :lol

D'Antoni publicly said he doesn't develop players, he doesn't want to make better players for other coaches, excuses, he is too incompetent to develop players, but somehow, the great players that were given to him were product of his "player development" skills. :lol


There's some weird homo attraction to D'Antoni going on this forum.

[aj1987]

no team has ever won a championship without at least a top 8 NBA defense.
:facepalm

[longtime lurker]

D'Antoni was a horrible hire for a championship team, but he's a good hire to develop talent. This team reminds me exactly of the 2010 Knicks team before Melo came on board. He had them in the playoff hunt with a core of Amare, Gallo, Chandler and Felton. Gasol is 100% a better anchor than Amare and the rest of the team is deeper. Lakers will have 3 or 4 guys that can go off any given time

[JtotheIzzo]

This thread is more dumb than the Boozer mvp thread. At leat that one was a joke thread.

fluke win first game of season >>>>>>>> Biggest failed season in the history of the NBA :lol

It was the bench guys that gave LA the win, any normal intelligent person would reason D'Antoni is dumb for having the best players in the bench, yet somehow he is called a genius. :lol

D'Antoni publicly said he doesn't develop players, he doesn't want to make better players for other coaches, excuses, he is too incompetent to develop players, but somehow, the great players that were given to him were product of his "player development" skills. :lol


There's some weird homo attraction to D'Antoni going on this forum.

please point out to me where I was factual wrong. If you can't you are free to go f*ck yourself.

Xavier Henry, Wesley Johnson, Jordan Farmar, were on no one's radar, because frankly they weren't that good (well Farmar had moments), but as he so often does, D'Antoni puts people in position to do as well as they can.

[rufuspaul]

He made Raymond Felton less fat




:roll:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

One game erases the complete failure to utilize Howard and Gasol properly and taking one of the most talented teams in the league to the 8th seed?

No, it was not genius.
This

[yeaaaman]

please point out to me where I was factual wrong. If you can't you are free to go f*ck yourself.

Xavier Henry, Wesley Johnson, Jordan Farmar, were on no one's radar, because frankly they weren't that good (well Farmar had moments), but as he so often does, D'Antoni puts people in position to do as well as they can.

I think the thing here is that this is one game, maybe 30 games in we'll see why there's a reason none of those guys were on anybody's radar. I mean, if you're on a sh*tty team someone's going to be in a position to do well. We'll see how they pan out.

[alexd]

The guy makes chicken salad out of chicken shit.

He takes other people`s waste and turns it into treasure.

He made Amare into a top ten player
He got Nash multiple MVPs
He made Joe Johnson one of the most sought after wing man
He made Raja Bell an elite wing player
He made Leandro Barbosa into a legit threat
He made Boris Diaw into a stat filling machine
He made Shawn Marion an all star
He made Jeremy Lin a world beater
He made Raymond Felton less fat


He is the perfect guy for this Laker squad, and helping to put these lost soul players in the position to succeed.

Johnson
Henry
Farmar

will all have career years.
He doesn t do anything.He has a playstyle that doesn t care about defense and cares only about offense.Players like Amare,Nash etc ofc they look better cause they don t tire themselves playing any defense and just fill up stats and highlights in a run and gun system.We saw last year that he can t coach when you have to slow down the pace.Its like a pickup game at the park.Look at the mixtapes in youtube.Everyone looks like a stud at highlights

[DMAVS41]

no team has ever won a championship without at least a top 8 NBA defense.

01 Lakers had the 21st ranked defense

[boozehound]

Only 3 active coaches have
thats not true. 4 (Pop, Carlisle, doc and spo)

[Thorn]

01 Lakers had the 21st ranked defense
01 Lakers were an anomaly. In 00 they had the best defense, but in 01 Shaq/Kobe missed 20+ games total, Isiah Rider messed up the chemistry, plus the entire team coasted heavily (especially Shaq). So it's not like they were worse for one year, considering they throttled teams defensively in the playoffs.

They gave Fish some of Harper's minutes, but upgraded at SF from Rice to Fox and PF from Green to Horace Grant. In the playoffs they were the best defense at I think -6.6. Point is the Lakers slacked off during the regular season.

None of the Showtime Lakers title teams were in the top 8, though. Most were in the top half (out of 23) but not top 8. Impressive that the coaching staff was able to lead a decent defense with only a few + defenders (Worthy and Scott were solid/above average, Cooper and Thompson were two of the league's best) but with huge liabilities such as late 80s Kareem and Magic.

edit: saw your next post, my mistake then!

[DMAVS41]

01 Lakers were an anomaly. In 00 they had the best defense, but in 01 Shaq/Kobe missed 20+ games total, Isiah Rider messed up the chemistry, plus the entire team coasted heavily (especially Shaq). So it's not like they were worse for one year, considering they throttled teams defensively in the playoffs.

They gave Fish some of Harper's minutes, but upgraded at SF from Rice to Fox and PF from Green to Horace Grant. In the playoffs they were the best defense at I think -6.6. Point is the Lakers slacked off during the regular season.

I was just pointing out that what he said was simply false.

[AussieG]

He's good at a style that's fun to watch.. and can win some games.. but not championships or grinding sort of games.

[Blue&Orange]

please point out to me where I was factual wrong. If you can't you are free to go f*ck yourself.

Xavier Henry, Wesley Johnson, Jordan Farmar, were on no one's radar, because frankly they weren't that good (well Farmar had moments), but as he so often does, D'Antoni puts people in position to do as well as they can.
Yes yes you are right, fluke win first game of the season trumps the biggest failed season in NBA history.

Yes yes scrubs producing more than before when having more playing time than before, it's unheard of. I just remembered Lavor Postell for some reason.


retard Oldschoolball made a thread similar to this one. That's how retarded this thread is, but yeah you are no factual wrong :roll:

[oh the horror]

Under no circumstances was the MDA hire good on any levels.


What? Exciting play? Wow-wee! Watching teams explode for 125 on you isn't exciting ball.

This will happen ALL season long too.

[niko]

The problem is he'll take a 25 win team and make them a 45 win team. Which is not the point. Winning a title is the point, and he can't coach a team that can approach that unless you get him literally 100% the quality of players he wants and needs.

[JtotheIzzo]

The problem is he'll take a 25 win team and make them a 45 win team. Which is not the point. Winning a title is the point, and he can't coach a team that can approach that unless you get him literally 100% the quality of players he wants and needs.

It is exactly the point this year, keep the ship steady till Kobe gets back.

They have 25 win talent without Kobe, Kobe needs to win now, the ONLY shot they have is to hold on for now and then let Kobe play hero ball and hope that a few people can keep up.

Will this work? Of course not, this team isn't a championship contender, but the Lakers don't want tanking, they want the playoffs, they want their Mamba to go as far as he can.

This situation, while not smart, might be ideal for their ideals.