Can anyone educate me, how is this painting worth $268 MILLION ??

[AintNoSunshine]

Obviously I don't know jack about art.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Card_Players_%285th_version%29_1894-1895_Paul_Cezanne.jpg/714px-Card_Players_%285th_version%29_1894-1895_Paul_Cezanne.jpg

[bdreason]

Probably because of who painted it, and when it was painted. If you're looking for a logical answer as to how art is priced... good luck with that.

[DCL]

why do billionaires use $100 bills as toilet paper?

because they can.

[plowking]

You can't see it? I'd say its undervalued if anything. I'd give $270 mil for it.

[Dresta]

why do billionaires use $100 bills as toilet paper?

because they can.
Not the same thing.

And that billionaire's doing you a favour really.

[miller-time]

It is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Ask the person that bought it.

[KevinNYC]

prestige. It was bought not by a individual, but the government of Qatar

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/02/qatar-buys-cezanne-card-players-201202

I confess, I couldn't identify the artist.

[DCL]

Not the same thing.

And that billionaire's doing you a favour really.

i agree. it would be great if all billionaires wipe their asses with their money. :oldlol: reduce their unfair share of the pie and bring balance to the wealth inequality gap. this idea will always be sound to me unless it's my share that's being taken away. lol

but the issue is that they don't do it enough. they hoard their money instead. i know there are examples of the opposite, so don't bring up the gates foundation...

[AintNoSunshine]

It is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Ask the person that bought it.


Yah, I was thinking maybe one of the posters on ISH was who bought it:confusedshrug:

[AintNoSunshine]

You can't see it? I'd say its undervalued if anything. I'd give $270 mil for it.


I would too, if I have 100000000080009 Million

[gigantes]

i recognised the artist, probably since i love the post-impressionists.

the subject is somewhat atypical for his style, so maybe that drives the value up.

the color scheme is wonderful IMO, but the figure on the left is pretty awkward. maybe that's why the guy usually stuck to still lifes.

personally i would have kept looking, but maybe the buyer's turban was too tight that day.

[iamgine]

The same way a tiny piece of paper called baseball/basketball cards are worth thousands of dollars.

[bigkingsfan]

It's worth more than that.

[Nick Young]

marketing and artificial inflation caused by investors who all know eachother and want to help eachother get richer.

[macmac]

Off the top of my head, I would say it's one of the French guys either monet or cezanne.

It's worth so much because it's beautiful, the artist is extremely talented and it's a one of a kind.

Because of it's rarity and esteemed value, rich people use it as a way of diversifying their portfolio.

Why is gold worth so much? It's only shiny metal...but it's relatively rare and society has attached a certain value to it

[AintNoSunshine]

Off the top of my head, I would say it's one of the French guys either monet or cezanne.

It's worth so much because it's beautiful, the artist is extremely talented and it's a one of a kind.

Because of it's rarity and esteemed value, rich people use it as a way of diversifying their portfolio.

Why is gold worth so much? It's only shiny metal...but it's relatively rare and society has attached a certain value to it

Can you elaborate please? what aspects of this particular painter made it more beautiful and unique than another painting?

[macmac]

Can you elaborate please? what aspects of this particular painter made it more beautiful and unique than another painting?

You might want to take an art class to fully discuss that but I would say the colors used, the position the players are in, the hunched back etc, the atmosphere it creates, and so forth.

It's not my favorite, I'm personally a baroque kind of guy

[Nick Young]

its not an amazing painting by any stretch of the imagination composition wise or technique wise or anything like that but the guy who painted it is really famous and has a high reputation, and more importantly is dead for 100 years and never going to make another, and his reputation is only going to grow.

[9erempiree]

its not an amazing painting by any stretch of the imagination composition wise or technique wise or anything like that but the guy who painted it is really famous and has a high reputation, and more importantly is dead for 100 years and never going to make another, and his reputation is only going to grow.

This.

Also, the subjects that were involved in that painting. Like old photos of era-specific subjects. This was what the painter saw during that time or how people looked.

For someone today to paint that, they would have to go by an old photo where this painter did it through his eyes.

[Nick Young]

This.

Also, the subjects that were involved in that painting. Like old photos of era-specific subjects. This was what the painter saw during that time or how people looked.

For someone today to paint that, they would have to go by an old photo where this painter did it through his eyes.
:lol

[East_Stone_Ya]

i recognised the artist, probably since i love the post-impressionists.

the subject is somewhat atypical for his style, so maybe that drives the value up.

the color scheme is wonderful IMO, but the figure on the left is pretty awkward. maybe that's why the guy usually stuck to still lifes.

personally i would have kept looking, but maybe the buyer's turban was too tight that day.


so who is it then?

[MavsSuperFan]

Free Market capitalism.

Seller found a buyer willing to pay that price.

[rufuspaul]

so who is it then?


Cezanne. I remember seeing this in the Mus

[KevinNYC]

[QUOTE=rufuspaul]Cezanne. I remember seeing this in the Mus

[-p.tiddy-]

if it is worth that much the reason why is for the simple fact that that is what the market/collectors are willing to pay for it.

if you want to know why collectors value it so much then that is another story...a more personal story

[-p.tiddy-]

http://annexbaseballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/honus_wagner.jpg

in a related story I recently watched a special on the T206 Honus Wagner baseball card card...the T206 is the ONLY Wagner card known to exist that is in "mint" condition, pretty interesting stuff

it's value is over $2 mill now


it is just a tiny piece of cardboard that came in a pack of cigarettes...

[dunksby]

Well in this case Qatar is trying to buy culture and prestige as KeviNYC said.

[rufuspaul]

The article I linked to above mentioned this painting is part of a series of Card Player paintings and it was the only one in private hands. All the others were in Museums and I think you saw a different one in this series.


This is the one I saw. Slightly different from Vapid's private collection.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/rufuspaul/cardplayers_zpsa3b3e081.gif

[macmac]

I agree its beautiful but I think if you need an art class to understand that, then it isnt really beautiful. Beauty is self evident.

That's not necessarily true. A trained eye can see more than the amateurs.

A person who appreciates basketball will find a back door cut properly executed a thing of beAuty, while a casual fan might think it's blah and not even appreciate it.

He asks me what makes post Impressionism beautiful? He might need an art class to understand the history of art and the advancements and the techniques.


Sometimes you have to work a bit before being able to truly enjoy something

[Jasi]

That's not necessarily true. A trained eye can see more than the amateurs.

A person who appreciates basketball will find a back door cut properly executed a thing of beAuty, while a casual fan might think it's blah and not even appreciate it.

He asks me what makes post Impressionism beautiful? He might need an art class to understand the history of art and the advancements and the techniques.


Sometimes you have to work a bit before being able to truly enjoy something

Perfect.

[outbreak]

It's really the artists name and rarity that drives up a price that high, It's a nice piece but if all you are doing is buying it to look at you can get a print or even a replica made by the right people. It's all about being collectible and one of a kind like that baseball card, the OP could go draw a picture of a massive dong, then kill a bunch of people the next day and suddenly his dong drawing will be considered some form of outsider art and be worth money purely on his reputation and celebrity.

[lefthook00]

There's a great story that goes:

A woman asks a street artist to paint a portrait of her, and he charges $5,000, and the woman is like wtf it only took you an hour to do this, and he says na it took my whole life bish.

I know I'm butchering the story but you get the point.

[BrooklynZoo]

That's not necessarily true. A trained eye can see more than the amateurs.

A person who appreciates basketball will find a back door cut properly executed a thing of beAuty, while a casual fan might think it's blah and not even appreciate it.

He asks me what makes post Impressionism beautiful? He might need an art class to understand the history of art and the advancements and the techniques.


Sometimes you have to work a bit before being able to truly enjoy something


so if you had never seen or heard of that painting before, and then found out it was done by the OP, would it still be beautiful?

[knickballer]

There's a great story that goes:

A woman asks a street artist to paint a portrait of her, and he charges $5,000, and the woman is like wtf it only took you an hour to do this, and he says na it took my whole life bish.

I know I'm butchering the story but you get the point.

:oldlol: