View Full Version : Is D-Wade really done at 31?
EveryManALion
11-01-2013, 04:38 AM
Now, I am not a big Heat fan, I am indifferent to them but I am seeing all these restrictions on Wade, no back to backs til December and even then, limited minutes, saving his body for the playoffs etc which I would understand... if he was 37 and Tim Duncan. So I start looking back a few years, even when he was putting up 30 PPG in 2008 people still said he was injury prone(And I think I read a report wayyy back when he was at Marquette saying something about his health).
So I never followed him fully, but is he really done at 31? I read that he was re-invigorated this off season and did all these little extras to stay healthy and in shape and come back "better" but now....who knows? What is your opinion on Wade? I know he is still capable of being a very good SG but does he even care anymore? I don't know what it is but his attitude in interviews seems a bit apathetic? Do you think he is satisfied with 3 rings? Whats your opinion on CURRENT D-Wade?
This is not a Heat hating thread, I am genuinely curious about what people think about him beyond internet articles saying he is Mr. Glass.
Undisputed
11-01-2013, 04:42 AM
The Heat are my least favorite team in the NBA, always have been. But Wade has the accomplishments that most will never achieve in the NBA on his body. He is no where near done, but he's coming off three deep playoff runs, and two back to back championships...what the hell do you expect? He is human dude.
9erempiree
11-01-2013, 04:46 AM
Wade kind of sold his soul to the devil. Rather than playing smart, he played reckless for a few good seasons just to suffer at the early age of 31.
I don't think he should be ranked as one of the best SG's ever when guys like West, Miller, MJ and Kobe were killing it every season of their career.
Wade is overrated in that sense where he had to play his hardest and sacrificed his body. Where the other guys I mentioned above were just saving their body and dominating at the same time.
Bucket_Nakedz
11-01-2013, 04:46 AM
i don't think he'll be a top 10 player again, but he still has some life in those knees.
9erempiree
11-01-2013, 04:50 AM
i don't think he'll be a top 10 player again, but he still has some life in those knees.
I don't think so either. He was killing his body just to peak those couple of years. He isn't like Kobe and MJ where they can easily dominate without tearing up their body. Imagine the numbers MJ and Kobe would have if they sold their souls for 2 peak years. I'm thinking 40 point averages but they are not stupid.
Look at 17 year old Kobe putting numbers up that nobody has seen for his age. He went all out and tore his achilles. Wade went all out and now paying for it because he couldn't do it as easily as those guys.
Dresta
11-01-2013, 04:52 AM
No.
Dresta
11-01-2013, 04:53 AM
I don't think so either. He was killing his body just to peak those couple of years. He isn't like Kobe and MJ where they can easily dominate without tearing up their body. Imagine the numbers MJ and Kobe would have if they sold their souls for 2 peak years. I'm thinking 40 point averages but they are not stupid.
Look at 17 year old Kobe putting numbers up that nobody has seen for his age. He went all out and tore his achilles. Wade went all out and now paying for it because he couldn't do it as easily as those guys.
Wade hasn't missed an extended stretch of games for the last 5 seasons; in the last 3 seasons he has played 20+ playoff games; stop talking shit.
9erempiree
11-01-2013, 04:56 AM
Wade hasn't missed an extended stretch of games for the last 5 seasons; in the last 3 seasons he has played 20+ playoff games; stop talking shit.
He may not have missed extended games but his game was missing.
Done.
Kaput.
chairman
11-01-2013, 04:59 AM
He may not have missed extended games but his game was missing.
Done.
Kaput.
:bowdown:
Dat hobo ni99a wade career is done
senelcoolidge
11-01-2013, 05:00 AM
If Wade was doing great he would not have all of these restrictions. His body has taken it's toll. Age is catching up to him. He's on the decline. It's natural. It happens to everyone.
All Net
11-01-2013, 05:18 AM
Course not..Miami just does him rest because it's very early in the season..they won't do it all the time.they need wade in the playoffs not now anyway.
blacknapalm
11-01-2013, 05:21 AM
let's put it this way...his best days are behind him. does that mean he won't have an occasional set of games or good series? nope, but he just won't be able to sustain that level, will be inconsistent and start missing more games.
wade played a super reckless style when he was younger and still does to a degree. weren't there rumors that his knee cartilage was practically gone? you're nearing the end of the road when that's the case.
EveryManALion
11-01-2013, 05:22 AM
let's put it this way...his best days are behind him. does that mean he won't have an occasional set of games or good series? nope, but he just won't be able to sustain that level, will be inconsistent and start missing more games.
wade played a super reckless style when he was younger and still does to a degree. weren't there rumors that his knee cartilage was practically gone? you're nearing the end of the road when that's the case.
Isent that basically what happened to Brandon Roy?
blacknapalm
11-01-2013, 05:28 AM
Isent that basically what happened to Brandon Roy?
more or less, yes. and there are knee microfracture surgeries but considering the surgeries and drainings wade has had, it could be a super long shot success wise. they're experimenting with regrown cartilage but that's probably still at least a few years away from being adequately reliable.
aj1987
11-01-2013, 05:39 AM
Wade played 70 games last season and was putting up 24/5/5/3/1 on near 54% over a 20+ game stretch. Then he bumped knees and got injured. The guy is unlucky like that sometimes. He still averaged 21/5/5/2/1 on only 16 shots.
He's far from being done.
East_Stone_Ya
11-01-2013, 07:21 AM
Wade played 70 games last season and was putting up 24/5/5/3/1 on near 54% over a 20+ game stretch. Then he bumped knees and got injured. The guy is unlucky like that sometimes. He still averaged 21/5/5/2/1 on only 16 shots.
He's far from being done.
this :applause:
He is. You can't give him new knees. Rehab can only do so much (see: Oden).
aj1987
11-01-2013, 09:08 AM
He is. You can't give him new knees. Rehab can only do so much (see: Oden).
Are you seriously comparing a guy who averaged 21/5/5/2/1 on 52% in the RS and 20/4/5/2/1 on 47% in the Finals to Oden (he played 2 minutes in the past 4 years)? :facepalm
Frozen1
11-01-2013, 09:33 AM
I think he will get more and more injured as the seasons go, but his decline isn
Haymaker
11-01-2013, 10:27 AM
Let's put it this way: We'll never see the old Wade back. Get used to him playing great in spurts.
Collie
11-01-2013, 10:47 AM
He ain't done, but he's clearly past his best years.
NoGunzJustSkillz
11-01-2013, 10:47 AM
He may not have missed extended games but his game was missing.
Done.
Kaput.
:applause:
Mass Debator
11-01-2013, 11:01 AM
Precautionary measures. You can do that when you're back-to-back champions. He'll be fine come Feb-March like he always is.
No, injuries and a mixture of him going from being #1 option to 2nd.If you look at his efficiency last season you'll see his much better than before.
People compare him to like Harden and the idiot Durant says Harden is better but if Wade was in Houston without Lebron and Bosh and was the #1 option like Harden last season he'd look much better than Harden and his stats would be insane.
Nick Young
11-01-2013, 11:30 AM
steroids will do that to a body.
The "Is Wade done" thread comes up every year from the same gumps.
Wade will have yet another 20/5/5 50% shooting type season, along with a couple steals and block. He'll also win his fourth title.
Next.
chazzy
11-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Way too early to judge. A troubling trend is that he relies on cheap buckets more in this past year though.
Brook(lyn)Lopez
11-01-2013, 12:39 PM
I don't know if he is done or not yet (trending that way so far) but he would be a lot better off longevity wise if he had taken developing a consistent outside shot and mid range game more seriously.
b1imtf
11-01-2013, 12:41 PM
Didn't he have surgery this summer?
GrapeApe
11-01-2013, 12:41 PM
The "Is Wade done" thread comes up every year from the same gumps.
Wade will have yet another 20/5/5 50% shooting type season, along with a couple steals and block. He'll also win his fourth title.
Next.
This. The funny thing is, this topic will continue being brought up every year until Wade inevitably does fall off significantly, and when that happens people will say "I told you so" lol. It's comical at this point.
miggyme1
11-01-2013, 01:02 PM
U know wats funny? Dwade isnt "flash" anymore but he still is the best player lebron has ever played with. I think wat lead to dwades early decline was all the myscle he put on years ago. He looked like a nfl free safety. I think another reason y he isnt aging so well is his jumper is very inconsistent. Especially from deep.
Dresta
11-01-2013, 01:45 PM
He may not have missed extended games but his game was missing.
Done.
Kaput.
You're an idiot.
Your type of idiot isn't worthy of any response outside of insults.
Unfortunately for you, you have one of those human minds which never get any further than a sort of insensate sweating, like that of a kidney.
****ing imbecile/moron/cretin/ignoramus etc.
Doranku
11-01-2013, 01:49 PM
You're an idiot.
Your type of idiot isn't worthy of any response outside of insults.
Unfortunately for you, you have one of those human minds which never get any further than a sort of insensate sweating, like that of a kidney.
****ing imbecile/moron/cretin/ignoramus etc.
The only reason you're so angry is because deep down, you know that it's true.
secund2nun
11-01-2013, 01:56 PM
This is a factor that Lebron will take a look at this summer imo. Even if he does opt in it will only be for one more season and he will then again opt out in 2015 and leave Miami unless Riley makes some moves to add more talent to Miami (which is possible). Wade is not a good fit next to Lebron as it is, but Wade is so injury prone and at 31 is like a 37 year old. Plus his game is athleticism dependent and that doesn't bold well for the future. He has neglected expanding his shooting range. It is inexplicable that he let his mid range game that he had a years back disappear.
Dresta
11-01-2013, 02:41 PM
The only reason you're so angry is because deep down, you know that it's true.
:roll:
I'm not angry. Why would i get angry at illogical morons on an internet forum? I'm not one of those pathetic creatures who trawl this forum defending a certain player who they regard as a God and take every slight to that player as a personal insult. I just sometimes feel the need to correct the gross exaggerations made about other players by these fools just so they can prop up their chosen God of basketball. Wade's PER was 24 last season; it has only declined in one successive year; to say he is 'done' is to belie the facts. Such people aren't worth reasoning with, because they are incapable of reason.
I pity them and their incredible stupidity.
aj1987
11-01-2013, 03:27 PM
This is a factor that Lebron will take a look at this summer imo. Even if he does opt in it will only be for one more season and he will then again opt out in 2015 and leave Miami unless Riley makes some moves to add more talent to Miami (which is possible). Wade is not a good fit next to Lebron as it is, but Wade is so injury prone and at 31 is like a 37 year old. Plus his game is athleticism dependent and that doesn't bold well for the future. He has neglected expanding his shooting range. It is inexplicable that he let his mid range game that he had a years back disappear.
The guy who you worship wouldn't have a ring of he didn't join Wade.
@Doranku, I know Wade used to be one of your favorite players. What happened?
secund2nun
11-01-2013, 04:04 PM
The guy who you worship wouldn't have a ring of he didn't join Wade.
@Doranku, I know Wade used to be one of your favorite players. What happened?
Sure Miami would not have won a title in 12 and 13 without Wade, but without Lebron they would not have even sniffed a title. If Lebron went to Chicago they also would have won rings. It was not just Miami. Wade had not even won a single playoff series after Shaq left.
bdreason
11-01-2013, 04:13 PM
Sitting out the 2nd game of the season, for any reason, isn't a good sign. Especially for my fantasy team. :facepalm
longtime lurker
11-01-2013, 04:46 PM
He's not done but I would be concerned with a 31 year old having to sit out back to backs. the Lakers are doing that with Steve Nash, but he's like 98
tommy3
11-01-2013, 04:51 PM
D-Wade would have been MVP candidate for the last 3 years if he wasn't playing next to the best player in the world. He's a player that needs the ball so he can get rhythm, which is impossible in the given circumstances.
Don't fool yourselves that will leave if they get to the finals this season. He's not as stupid as you guys to think that it is possible to get a better supporting cast than the current Heat unit.
Sharmer
11-01-2013, 05:50 PM
You're an idiot.
Your type of idiot isn't worthy of any response outside of insults.
Unfortunately for you, you have one of those human minds which never get any further than a sort of insensate sweating, like that of a kidney.
****ing imbecile/moron/cretin/ignoramus etc.
:applause:
He's just jealous of Wade because of his man love for Kobe.
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