Can Lebron be score champ this season?

[chairman]

With wade to be missing a load of games it seems like Lebron should gun for this title if he can, because I don't believe after this season he will be able to score like he has been. Lebron is already off to a slow start, it seems like defenses know how to stop lebron nowadays. Everyone is a Lebron stopper this season. Heat fans better hope other plays will be making shots.

[Trollsmasher]

He seems more inclined to average double digit assists from what I have seen from him in the preseason and these two games. Obviously small sample, but if anything looks better than ever, it is his passing.

[russwest0]

He cares too much about his precious FG% to be a scoring champ.

And also nearly impossible for him to win it since he's playing in the same era as that man down in Oklahoma City, Kevin Durant

[RoundMoundOfReb]

No. He's really not an aggressive scorer since he left Cleveland.

[blacknapalm]

see it coming down to melo or durant again. durant has a good chance to pick up the slack and build a good lead on melo while wb is out so my bet is on the durantula

[2swift4u]

No. He's really not an aggressive scorer since he left Cleveland.

this. he's mainly looking for open team-mates these days. He's not really playing 100% a lot of the time either.

[All Net]

If he wanted to sure...but not sure scoring is on his main to go list. Durant is also too good not to win it again.

[KyleKong]

LeBron could be a scoring champ again if he wanted to, but he enjoys being a playmaker first, scorer second.

[AintNoSunshine]

With Durant playing on this Thunder team, especially without Westbrook, Lebron's not gonna win it

[leMVP]

Not when he avg 15 FGA per game.

[East_Stone_Ya]

the answer is no.
My pick would be either Durant or Melo

[rodman91]

I'm not sure he can be even if he tries. Most of his points comes from fast breaks or simple post moves.

He stopped trying to be like Jordan. I think he found his own game and it's better for both him & Heat.

[Harison]

Not a chance. Heat is stacked and he tries to get others involved too.

[crunk-juice]

LeBron dictates how much he scores. he's the de facto scoring champ regardless.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

He cares too much about his precious FG% to be a scoring champ.

And also nearly impossible for him to win it since he's playing in the same era as that man down in Oklahoma City, Kevin Durant

Yeah. Hard to compete when you get 20+ FTAs on a regular basis.

[riseagainst]

nba 2k14 has lebron avging 30ppg on 59% FG this season for his path to greatness.

:lol

[Mr. Incredible]

No chance.

I see Durant averaging around 35 points per game this year.

[secund2nun]

With the NBA's policy on giving you a flagrant 2 for merely looking at Durant no one will beat him in scoring.

[Mr. Incredible]

With the NBA's policy on giving you a flagrant 2 for merely looking at Durant no one will beat him in scoring.
I laughed.

[SpecialQue]

He doesn't give a shit about that.

[branslowski]

Nope, and not because he doesn't want to. Just because he's a stat sheet fg% conscious player. What does this mean? It means if he's 8-17 shooting with 3min left in the game he's going to drive for a dunk/layup/or ft. If he gets the dunk or layup, he knows he is now shooting 9-18fg which would be 50%. Once that takes place with less than 2-3 minutes left, he won't shoot anymore...he'll just dribble dribble til shotclock is low and then pass it or turn it over. But he won't shoot....Ends the game with 25-27pts 8inflated assist and 7reb (cause he 6-9 260lbs) while shooting 50%, and all his fans will be like "Heat lost, but not because LeBron! 50% doe, dat fg% son".:facepalm

Also he won't be scoring champ because his offensive game still has holes and Durant is in this same league, Melo too.

Watch my boy Steph Curry too.

[La Frescobaldi]

Who's going to stop him when they can't hand check and can't draw a charge ever and have the baby bumper line around the basket?

James could go 40 ppg on the season if he wanted.

[avonbarksdale]

Nope, and not because he doesn't want to. Just because he's a stat sheet fg% conscious player. What does this mean? It means if he's 8-17 shooting with 3min left in the game he's going to drive for a dunk/layup/or ft. If he gets the dunk or layup, he knows he is now shooting 9-18fg which would be 50%. Once that takes place with less than 2-3 minutes left, he won't shoot anymore...he'll just dribble dribble til shotclock is low and then pass it or turn it over. But he won't shoot....Ends the game with 25-27pts 8inflated assist and 7reb (cause he 6-9 260lbs) while shooting 50%, and all his fans will be like "Heat lost, but not because LeBron! 50% doe, dat fg% son".:facepalm

Also he won't be scoring champ because his offensive game still has holes and Durant is in this same league, Melo too.

Watch my boy Steph Curry too.


this is so accuarate

[fpliii]

Depends how long Westbrook is out. If he misses substantial time, I think KD is a lock, since he's going to be gunning for 35-40 a night as long as he's on his own.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I see Durant averaging around 35 points per game this year.
20 of those points coming off Free Throw Attempts.

:oldlol:

Pathetic how Durant's PPG get padded with absurd volume foul calls. And it isn't strictly because he's always attacking. They ref him softer because of that meek, small shoulder, string bean arm, feminine frame of his.

He has the most pedestrian, and un-impressive scoring games because of this IMO. I'd much rather watch Steph Curry score in bunches off jumpers, or 80 year old Kobe go off than watch Durant's free throw-centric high scoring games.

LeBron hasn't been an aggressive scorer since 2010 in Cleveland. It's not his natural game. That's why he wanted to join forces with Wade, and Bosh. How has this not sunk in for you guys yet? He expressed in 2010 his disinterest in being relied upon to score in volume for his team. Too much pressure.

Bron gets the vast majority of his points on his picking his spots and getting easy buckets within a very talented team, or off defensive pressure. He really is like Pippen in those regards. A super version of him, but similar. He's more content with pushing double digit assists, rebounding, and being a great team defender.

He gets massive help in regards to scoring from some very talented players: Wade, Bosh, Allen, and even Cole or Chalmers.

He's in Miami because he doesn't want to score. He has the abilities to average more, I believe. Given he isn't super quick anymore off the dribble, his efficiency would really suffer.

[branslowski]

:oldlol: @ Samurai Swish complaining about Durants Freethrow attempts. Which is some ironic shit I tell ya:

Jordan FTA pg in his career with Bulls: 8.7fta
Durant FTA pg in his career with Thunder: 8.1fta

Highest FT attempts per game for each in a single seasons?:

Jordan 12fta pg in 86' and followed that up with 10.5fta in 87'.

Durant's highest FTA per game? 10.2fta in 09'.

:oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

:oldlol: @ Samurai Swish complaining about Durants Freethrow attempts. Which is some ironic shit I tell ya:
You'd have to be a complete moron to not understand the difference within context.

MJ attacked the basket with much more regularity off the dribble than Durant ever has. KD gets these soft ass foul calls on triple threats where he swings his arms through a defender. This soft ass perimeter ruled league is embarrassing.

KD is a catch and shoot player averaging 8 to 10 FTA per game. That's beyond ridiculous. MJ off the dribble from '85 - '93 was one of the most lethal the game has ever seen. Probably the best first step ever.

[Mr. Incredible]

20 of those points coming off Free Throw Attempts.

:oldlol:

Pathetic how Durant's PPG get padded with absurd volume foul calls. And it isn't strictly because he's always attacking. They ref him softer because of that meek, small shoulder, string bean arm, feminine frame of his.

He has the most pedestrian, and un-impressive scoring games because of this IMO. I'd much rather watch Steph Curry score in bunches off jumpers, or 80 year old Kobe go off than watch Durant's free throw-centric high scoring games.

LeBron hasn't been an aggressive scorer since 2010 in Cleveland. It's not his natural game. That's why he wanted to join forces with Wade, and Bosh. How has this not sunk in for you guys yet? He expressed in 2010 his disinterest in being relied upon to score in volume for his team. Too much pressure.

Bron gets the vast majority of his points on his picking his spots and getting easy buckets within a very talented team, or off defensive pressure. He really is like Pippen in those regards. A super version of him, but similar. He's more content with pushing double digit assists, rebounding, and being a great team defender.

He gets massive help in regards to scoring from some very talented players: Wade, Bosh, Allen, and even Cole or Chalmers.

He's in Miami because he doesn't want to score. He has the abilities to average more, I believe. Given he isn't super quick anymore off the dribble, his efficiency would really suffer.Who is disagreeing with you? Certainly not I.

[Mr. Incredible]

20 of those points coming off Free Throw Attempts.

:oldlol:

Pathetic how Durant's PPG get padded with absurd volume foul calls. And it isn't strictly because he's always attacking. They ref him softer because of that meek, small shoulder, string bean arm, feminine frame of his.

He has the most pedestrian, and un-impressive scoring games because of this IMO. I'd much rather watch Steph Curry score in bunches off jumpers, or 80 year old Kobe go off than watch Durant's free throw-centric high scoring games.

LeBron hasn't been an aggressive scorer since 2010 in Cleveland. It's not his natural game. That's why he wanted to join forces with Wade, and Bosh. How has this not sunk in for you guys yet? He expressed in 2010 his disinterest in being relied upon to score in volume for his team. Too much pressure.

Bron gets the vast majority of his points on his picking his spots and getting easy buckets within a very talented team, or off defensive pressure. He really is like Pippen in those regards. A super version of him, but similar. He's more content with pushing double digit assists, rebounding, and being a great team defender.

He gets massive help in regards to scoring from some very talented players: Wade, Bosh, Allen, and even Cole or Chalmers.

He's in Miami because he doesn't want to score. He has the abilities to average more, I believe. Given he isn't super quick anymore off the dribble, his efficiency would really suffer.I do agree with you about Durant's free throw attempts. He's an unbelievable talent who definitely gets the most superstar treatment. His 'rip' move pisses me off to no end.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Who is disagreeing with you? Certainly not I.
Not saying you. But clearly brainsnotski disagrees with me ... He must not have watched MJ or KD to be making such absurd statements. I'm not saying KD is a bad player by any means. What I am saying is his PPG numbers get insanely padded by the weak preferential treatment he gets from officials. His high scoring games are so boring. FTA after FTA. Super impressive visually.

:rolleyes:

[jlip]

Let's see...He's already won a scoring title at age 23, and finished 2nd three consecutive seasons after that. He's only 28 now and in his prime. Obviously this is not a question of ability

[branslowski]

You'd have to be a complete moron to not understand the difference within context.

MJ attacked the basket with much more regularity off the dribble than Durant ever has. KD gets these soft ass foul calls on triple threats where he swings his arms through a defender. This soft ass perimeter ruled league is embarrassing.

KD is a catch and shoot player averaging 8 to 10 FTA per game. That's beyond ridiculous. MJ off the dribble from '85 - '93 was one of the most lethal the game has ever seen. Probably the best first step ever.

Meh, context. Even after the age 31 wen MJ was attacking less because he had a sick ass Jumper, he was still at the 8+ fta pg range. Ya boy averaged 8.8fta pg at the age of 34. U gonna tell me a lie how he still was relentless attacking non stop or are u just gonna realize every superstar gets those "superstar" calls?

Durant at 23yrs old only avg 7.6fta pg in 11'. Compared to 34yr old MJ jump shooter 23 still hanging up 8.8fta pg averages...U gonna act like Durant didn't drive to the lane more than a 34yr old Jordan? I call BS.

Plus the point still stands as the facts I posted. No matter how they get to the line, u still watchin them both shoot over 8 fts a game. So how u callin somebody's numbers inflated due to FT's wen ur main man averages more?:biggums:

[fpliii]

You'd have to be a complete moron to not understand the difference within context.

MJ attacked the basket with much more regularity off the dribble than Durant ever has. KD gets these soft ass foul calls on triple threats where he swings his arms through a defender. This soft ass perimeter ruled league is embarrassing.

KD is a catch and shoot player averaging 8 to 10 FTA per game. That's beyond ridiculous. MJ off the dribble from '85 - '93 was one of the most lethal the game has ever seen. Probably the best first step ever.

Iverson, Wade, Wall say hi.

[Bandito]

LeBron dictates how much he scores. he's the de facto scoring champ regardless.
The paper doesn't say it. It doesn't matter if he can if he doesn't the the facts tells he can't.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Iverson, Wade, Wall say hi.
Yea, they are all in the same league. MJ was better off the triple threat than all of those guys. Those guys are comparable or better off the dribble. But then you combine MJ's superior size, length, then he kind of gets the nod.

[unbreakable]

ZERO CHANCE

even if bosh, wade, and chalmers were out for the entire year, lebron still wouldnt lead the league in scoring. .. hes too slow, jumper isnt reliable, and he just doesnt have the fortitude at this stage in his career to lead the league in scoring..

[Mr. Incredible]

Not saying you. But clearly brainsnotski disagrees with me ... He must not have watched MJ or KD to be making such absurd statements. I'm not saying KD is a bad player by any means. What I am saying is his PPG numbers get insanely padded by the weak preferential treatment he gets from officials. His high scoring games are so boring. FTA after FTA. Super impressive visually.

:rolleyes:
I agree with you man. I also am not one of those who thinks LeBron is better than Jordan either or thinks he will be. Just so you know