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chris02jammers
11-02-2013, 09:10 PM
averaging 0.6 pts in 3 games shooting 0.0% for the field and 4 rebounds?

Jameerthefear
11-02-2013, 09:10 PM
thought he'd be good since i saw him in that game vs the magic...

b1imtf
11-02-2013, 09:10 PM
averaging 0.6 pts in 3 games shooting 0.0% for the field and 4 rebounds?
:banghead:

RoundMoundOfReb
11-02-2013, 09:11 PM
Honestly i'm rooting for him since he's canadian and all but I'm predicting he'll bust.

HomieWeMajor
11-02-2013, 09:13 PM
Fat man's Antoine Walker when it's all said and done

chris02jammers
11-02-2013, 09:13 PM
:banghead:
you are the number 1 pick and its already 3 games... and you are averaging less than 1 pt a game... expecting more from him...

Droid101
11-02-2013, 09:19 PM
Sorry bros who pointed this thread out. Too drunk to care to look for a previous one.

I agree with your post for the most part.

The first pick needs to show something, anything. Kwame at least showed some life in his first few games.

Meticode
11-02-2013, 09:20 PM
He's struggled to put it lightly. He's 0-14 from the floor this season shooting the ball. Yes, that's correct. He's literally missed every single shot this season so far. He's 6-8 and 250ish pounds and 6 of those 14 shots are three pointers.

chris02jammers
11-02-2013, 09:20 PM
makes Kwame Brown a better player than he is in his first week

iggy>
11-02-2013, 09:22 PM
Nerlens Noel has similar stats so far. :D

chris02jammers
11-02-2013, 09:22 PM
lets wait until he plays

RoseCity07
11-02-2013, 09:25 PM
I called it the day he was drafted. The guy is a scrub. He's not going to be the next Charles Barkley. He's a huge bust.

clipse026
11-02-2013, 09:25 PM
Nerlens Noel has similar stats so far. :D
:applause:

Meticode
11-02-2013, 09:48 PM
I called it the day he was drafted. The guy is a scrub. He's not going to be the next Charles Barkley. He's a huge bust.
I wasn't a fan of the pick, but 3 games into the season is pre-mature to call anyone a bust. In-my-opinion you haven't called anything.

chris02jammers
11-02-2013, 09:53 PM
I wasn't a fan of the pick, but 3 games into the season is pre-mature to call anyone a bust. In-my-opinion you haven't called anything.
but MCW is tearing the league apart in 3 games... there is a bet that PHI will not reach 16 wins this season...

More is expected for a number 1 draft pick... at least made some shot...

NattyPButter
11-02-2013, 10:06 PM
but MCW is tearing the league apart in 3 games... there is a bet that PHI will not reach 16 wins this season...

More is expected for a number 1 draft pick... at least made some shot...

He could end up being Jermey Lin 2.0

LastEpisode
11-02-2013, 11:53 PM
Nerlens Noel has similar stats so far. :D
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..

noob cake
11-03-2013, 12:06 AM
Not even 5 games in his rookie season.

Seriously, busts can only be called after a rookie season, or maybe half way through the season at least.

HarryCallahan
11-03-2013, 12:24 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..

He was quite obviously joking you fvcking spastic.

iggy>
11-03-2013, 12:31 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..
Thanks for the update Einstein.

Rekindled
11-03-2013, 12:34 AM
He could end up being Jermey Lin 2.0

jeremy lin is still a pretty damn good player and a starting pg in the league.

meanwhile Bennett is playing like poorman's eddy curry

Brokenbeat
11-03-2013, 01:00 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..


Wow, lol. :roll: :facepalm

coin24
11-03-2013, 01:06 AM
but MCW is tearing the league apart in 3 games... there is a bet that PHI will not reach 16 wins this season...

More is expected for a number 1 draft pick... at least made some shot...

This. Guy has shown literally nothing.

Mcw beasting like crazy:rockon:

bluechox2
11-03-2013, 01:07 AM
needs to lose weight if he wants to roam the perimeter

RoseCity07
11-03-2013, 01:09 AM
I wasn't a fan of the pick, but 3 games into the season is pre-mature to call anyone a bust. In-my-opinion you haven't called anything.

I mean that I personally believe he is a bust. I'm not saying he is one yet. I'm just saying that I think he will be a bust. So far I'm right. The guy is like 0-12 to start his career. Hasn't hit a shot in field goal in a single game. How is the number 1 pick not getting enough minutes to score?

red1
11-03-2013, 01:10 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..
this dumbass right here :roll:

BallsOut
11-03-2013, 01:18 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..

You know iggy is a Sixers fan right? It's easy to be a dumbass when you're a dumbass.. :biggums:

senelcoolidge
11-03-2013, 04:33 AM
Why is he shooting so many 3's? He should get his baskets closer to the rim. He's got some size on him. It's still too early, he might explode for 30 in the next game. But I just have this feeling that he was taken 1st as a joke. He's basically a fall guy. I hope he does better. A number 1 pick has to contribute. Lin wasn't even drafted so he's done great.

andremiller07
11-03-2013, 04:35 AM
What's the longest a #1 pick has gone without making a FG?

SyRyanYang
11-03-2013, 04:55 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..

wow slow down Einstein.

LilEddyCurry
11-03-2013, 05:14 AM
jeremy lin is still a pretty damn good player and a starting pg in the league.

meanwhile Bennett is playing like poorman's eddy curry
He's obviously talking about MCW...

chris02jammers
11-05-2013, 12:41 AM
0 pts on 0 - 3 shooting...

Qwyjibo
11-05-2013, 01:02 AM
Does it seem like Cleveland has ****ed up some amazing chances to build a great core around Kyrie?

It's way too early to tell about Bennett but it's still very discouraging. Waiters has the skillset of an inefficient volume shooter. Thompson could be a decent starter but it's tough to see him even be a borderline All-Star.

Mr. Incredible
11-05-2013, 01:14 AM
Does it seem like Cleveland has ****ed up some amazing chances to build a great core around Kyrie?

It's way too early to tell about Bennett but it's still very discouraging. Waiters has the skillset of an inefficient volume shooter. Thompson could be a decent starter but it's tough to see him even be a borderline All-Star.
Yep.

secund2nun
11-05-2013, 03:44 AM
Does it seem like Cleveland has ****ed up some amazing chances to build a great core around Kyrie?

It's way too early to tell about Bennett but it's still very discouraging. Waiters has the skillset of an inefficient volume shooter. Thompson could be a decent starter but it's tough to see him even be a borderline All-Star.

Correction- Cleveland F-ed up a chance to build a great core around Drummond. Irving would be a good sidekick to Drummond and they could have got someone better this draft. Imagine Drummond, Irving, non bust pick this draft - sick core. Add Lebron and it would be insane.

But this is why Cleveland is Cleveland- cursed and all. They always make stupid decisions. 7 years with Lebron and Mo Williams is the best they give him? LOL

TheCorporation
11-05-2013, 03:47 AM
Correction- Cleveland F-ed up a chance to build a great core around Drummond. Irving would be a good sidekick to Drummond and they could have got someone better this draft. Imagine Drummond, Irving, non bust pick this draft - sick core. Add Lebron and it would be insane.

But this is why Cleveland is Cleveland- cursed and all. They always make stupid decisions. 7 years with Lebron and Mo Williams is the best they give him? LOL

Don't forget Big Z! lolol

CarlosBoozer
11-05-2013, 03:57 AM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..
O rly? :lebronamazed:










:facepalm

andremiller07
11-05-2013, 04:07 AM
Making Austin Rivers start to his rookie season look good at least.........Hopefully he gets it together soon.

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2013, 05:00 AM
Correction- Cleveland F-ed up a chance to build a great core around Drummond. Irving would be a good sidekick to Drummond and they could have got someone better this draft. Imagine Drummond, Irving, non bust pick this draft - sick core. Add Lebron and it would be insane.

But this is why Cleveland is Cleveland- cursed and all. They always make stupid decisions. 7 years with Lebron and Mo Williams is the best they give him? LOL
Got to love the revisionist historians, especially by the LeBron James ballboys who love nothing more than to blast his former team. And, they say Cavs fans need to "get over it."

These guys literally cannot resist the temptation to post about the Cavs and Cleveland in general at every turn.

As for the revisionist history...

I remember the lead up to the 2012 draft very vividly. There were something like three people on this board -- at most -- urging the Cavs to take a hard look at Drummond and that was me and a couple other guys. I don't recall you being a part of that conversation.

In fact, the guy who the vast majority of people were saying was probably going to be the best talent on the board at 4 was not Drummond, but Thomas Robinson. According to these draft gurus, the Cavs made a major blunder by selecting Tristan Thompson the year before, because TRob was so clearly going to be a better PF on the next level.

What happened to all those pro-Robinson prognosticators? It seems they've now become the "Cavs should have taken Drummond crowd."

Wait, you mean to tell me it's possible the Cavs didn't draft the best possible player with every pick over the past four years? That can't be right.


Does it seem like Cleveland has ****ed up some amazing chances to build a great core around Kyrie?

It's way too early to tell about Bennett but it's still very discouraging. Waiters has the skillset of an inefficient volume shooter. Thompson could be a decent starter but it's tough to see him even be a borderline All-Star.

For all the sh!t that Waiters takes as being basically a worthless chucker, the guy did shoot 48% from the field in the last couple months of the season last year and was First Team All-Rookie. Unfortunately for him, first impressions are hard to shake and he did start his rookie year with a one track mind.

This year, he's struggled out of the gates, no doubt, but I'd argue a lot of that is due to a new roster of guys who've created a situation where rotations are still being figured out and it has hurt his rhythm. He's been playing 30 minutes one night, 8 minutes the next. On the bright side, his defense is much improved, as is the whole team's defense.

As for Tristan, have you been watching him lately? It's sort of odd that you would note him as a guy who the Cavs failed with when trying to "build around" Kyrie when, in fact, TT has been better than Irving through the first four games.

He also basically averaged a double-double last year as a 21-year old sophomore in the NBA. Just a "solid starter?" He's already better than that.

Through his first four games, he's averaging 14/10 on 50+% from the field with excellent defense.

On top of all that, not even Kyrie Irving himself was considered the consensus pick at the time. A LOT of people on here and in the media were wondering loudly how the Cavs could take a chance with a No. 1 pick on a guy who played 9 collegiate games over the more "proven" Derrick Williams. They said, "go with Williams/Knight combo."

Where are all those people now, because not only is Irving 20x the player Williams is, Tristan is way better than Knight (and Williams, for that matter).


So, for all these revisionist historians, it might be worthwhile to go back and actually take a look at what people were saying at the time instead of just looking at what turned out to be the best players from each draft and assuming everyone knew those should have been the easy picks.


It's way too soon to give an opinion of Bennett other than he's struggling offensively to start his rookie season, but other than that, Grant has actually drafted very well in his tenure with the Cavs.


Thomas Robinson -- the guy everybody wanted the Cavs to take -- has been a complete bust... Thompson and Waiters have not.

kurple
11-05-2013, 05:46 AM
trade him to denver. take what you want

DukeDelonte13
11-05-2013, 08:25 AM
He'll be fine. He just can't get into a rhythm offensively.

alenleomessi
11-05-2013, 08:52 AM
well the cavs did pretty much a perfect 2011 draft.. looking at it now maybe only leonard or parsons would have been a better pick than tristan..

but the last two drafts they f*cked up badly and so did like 7-8 other teams.. you just dont pass on guys like drummond and noel

absalom
11-05-2013, 09:31 AM
At least Kwame made a basket in his debut. :roll: :roll:

Re: Bennett: He's supposed to be the 2nd coming of LJ, I hope he reaches it.

jbryan1984
11-05-2013, 09:34 AM
The way this draft was, anyone who was drafted #1 is probably not going to live it up. Reminds me a lot of the 2000 draft. Kenyon had some good years with the Nets but he never lived up to the hype of a #1 pick either. That was always J. Kidd's team during Kenyon's entire run there. Give Bennett a year or two to become a solid role player. I never expected him to come out averaging all these points in 3 games.


Also, you need to understand this is a very deep team. People are fighting for minutes. The 4 and 5 positions we got Bennett, TT, Andy, Bynum, Zeller, Clark, the rookie whose name I forget. Even when he plays the 3, Gee and CJ Miles (who is balling btw) occupy time. New coach, new system. Give Bennett some time here.

B-Easy8
11-05-2013, 09:57 AM
Im fairly confident Bennett will turn out well.

He needs to get in shape and get his confidence up first.

Waiters for me was an awful pick. I just dont see what he brings that made him that high of a pick.

kNicKz
11-05-2013, 10:01 AM
Misses 3 shots coming off an injury

Called a bust

secund2nun
11-05-2013, 11:08 AM
Got to love the revisionist historians, especially by the LeBron James ballboys who love nothing more than to blast his former team. And, they say Cavs fans need to "get over it."

These guys literally cannot resist the temptation to post about the Cavs and Cleveland in general at every turn.

As for the revisionist history...

I remember the lead up to the 2012 draft very vividly. There were something like three people on this board -- at most -- urging the Cavs to take a hard look at Drummond and that was me and a couple other guys. I don't recall you being a part of that conversation.

In fact, the guy who the vast majority of people were saying was probably going to be the best talent on the board at 4 was not Drummond, but Thomas Robinson. According to these draft gurus, the Cavs made a major blunder by selecting Tristan Thompson the year before, because TRob was so clearly going to be a better PF on the next level.

What happened to all those pro-Robinson prognosticators? It seems they've now become the "Cavs should have taken Drummond crowd."

Wait, you mean to tell me it's possible the Cavs didn't draft the best possible player with every pick over the past four years? That can't be right.



For all the sh!t that Waiters takes as being basically a worthless chucker, the guy did shoot 48% from the field in the last couple months of the season last year and was First Team All-Rookie. Unfortunately for him, first impressions are hard to shake and he did start his rookie year with a one track mind.

This year, he's struggled out of the gates, no doubt, but I'd argue a lot of that is due to a new roster of guys who've created a situation where rotations are still being figured out and it has hurt his rhythm. He's been playing 30 minutes one night, 8 minutes the next. On the bright side, his defense is much improved, as is the whole team's defense.

As for Tristan, have you been watching him lately? It's sort of odd that you would note him as a guy who the Cavs failed with when trying to "build around" Kyrie when, in fact, TT has been better than Irving through the first four games.

He also basically averaged a double-double last year as a 21-year old sophomore in the NBA. Just a "solid starter?" He's already better than that.

Through his first four games, he's averaging 14/10 on 50+% from the field with excellent defense.

On top of all that, not even Kyrie Irving himself was considered the consensus pick at the time. A LOT of people on here and in the media were wondering loudly how the Cavs could take a chance with a No. 1 pick on a guy who played 9 collegiate games over the more "proven" Derrick Williams. They said, "go with Williams/Knight combo."

Where are all those people now, because not only is Irving 20x the player Williams is, Tristan is way better than Knight (and Williams, for that matter).


So, for all these revisionist historians, it might be worthwhile to go back and actually take a look at what people were saying at the time instead of just looking at what turned out to be the best players from each draft and assuming everyone knew those should have been the easy picks.


It's way too soon to give an opinion of Bennett other than he's struggling offensively to start his rookie season, but other than that, Grant has actually drafted very well in his tenure with the Cavs.


Thomas Robinson -- the guy everybody wanted the Cavs to take -- has been a complete bust... Thompson and Waiters have not.

I was not posting much, if anything on the draft. I had very little interest on it because it was not relevant to my rooting interest. But I will say this about Robinson vs Drummond. Drummond came into college as a barely 18 year old freshmen and played really well. He had very high potential and everyone knew it. Robinson did nothing his freshmen and sophomore seasons then exploded his junior season. That is usually a red flag for me. A NBA player does well in their freshmen or at least sophomore seasons in college. I am a huge fan on big men especially with potential. I think big men are very underrated and perimeter players are very overrated. I was always a fan on Drummond.

Drummond was certainly a far superior pick than Waiters, who is a shooting guard and an inefficient chucker at that. Waiters did not even do much in college as a SO. He was an average SG prospect- 13-2-2 was his stat line. I would almost never take a SG prospect over a top big man propsect.

In the NBA Waiters has done nothing to impress me. He has been unimpressive so far this season. He was not impresive last season either with his 41% fg. He only had one good (but not great) month last season, and high volume chuckers by the laws of statistics will always have occasional good months.

Thompson is impressive though. He was a good pick. Irving was a very good pick, but unfortunately Drummond was a gigantic miss. He is gonna be a top 4-5 player within the few years imo. Dominant centers are very rare. He has it.

jbryan1984
11-05-2013, 12:24 PM
Im fairly confident Bennett will turn out well.

He needs to get in shape and get his confidence up first.

Waiters for me was an awful pick. I just dont see what he brings that made him that high of a pick.


While I am satisfied with Dion..... I wanted Harrison Barnes out of who was left.

ZMonkey11
11-05-2013, 12:28 PM
He doesn't have stats because he hasn't played yet.. Its hard to be a smart ass when you're a dumbass..

:roll: :roll: :roll: I just spit out part of my breakfast.

:applause: You get the cookie for the day.:applause:

rufuspaul
11-05-2013, 12:36 PM
Too early to call any of the rookies a bust. If I were a betting man I'd say ROY will come down to Oladipo, Zeller and MCW.

ZMonkey11
11-05-2013, 12:51 PM
For all of you who are saying that Cleveland made a huge mistake on a can't miss Drummond prospect, do you remember him playing in college?

Athletic freak, yes. Oodles of potential, yes. But he was downright LOST on the floor at Connecticut. And because of this, there were questions marks if he could play the NBA game properly. He was RAW.

In a league where personnel can get fired on a whim, it was a very risky proposition to draft this kid.


But I'm a Pistons fan, so thanks you suckers.

FreezingTsmoove
11-05-2013, 01:07 PM
NBA game is 50x faster than college. Anyone with a brain could see that Drummond was going to excel in such a fast moving game. Lets be real tho Bennett is fat and everyone knew that going into the draft. Its obvious the Cavs see a BETTER conditioned Ben could excel in such a fast game. Thats the only reason I have for Cav scouts picking a fatty with the #1. I give him 2 years to get properly conditioned before I call him a bust. People forget how badly conditioned Drummond looked last year when asked to play 20 mins

DeuceWallaces
11-05-2013, 01:28 PM
For all of you who are saying that Cleveland made a huge mistake on a can't miss Drummond prospect, do you remember him playing in college?

Athletic freak, yes. Oodles of potential, yes. But he was downright LOST on the floor at Connecticut. And because of this, there were questions marks if he could play the NBA game properly. He was RAW.

In a league where personnel can get fired on a whim, it was a very risky proposition to draft this kid.


But I'm a Pistons fan, so thanks you suckers.

Big men routinely look bad in college because of zone and poor PG play. It's all a crap shoot but the Cavs have made some very questionable draft selections as of late. Putting up a donut hole your first 4 games is not a good sign.

Qwyjibo
11-05-2013, 01:31 PM
For all of you who are saying that Cleveland made a huge mistake on a can't miss Drummond prospect, do you remember him playing in college?

Athletic freak, yes. Oodles of potential, yes. But he was downright LOST on the floor at Connecticut. And because of this, there were questions marks if he could play the NBA game properly. He was RAW.

He was also playing with two ball dominant guards, one of who was a total moron on the court (Napier). I think his lack of assertiveness on offense owed a lot to that. He was still a monster on defense.

rustycage
11-05-2013, 02:50 PM
I don't know why, but this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27gbxZmb90) reminded me of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2fn01cngg)

:bowdown: :bowdown:

MP.Trey
11-05-2013, 02:52 PM
For all of you who are saying that Cleveland made a huge mistake on a can't miss Drummond prospect, do you remember him playing in college?

Athletic freak, yes. Oodles of potential, yes. But he was downright LOST on the floor at Connecticut. And because of this, there were questions marks if he could play the NBA game properly. He was RAW.

In a league where personnel can get fired on a whim, it was a very risky proposition to draft this kid.


But I'm a Pistons fan, so thanks you suckers.
Not to mention his 29% FT's in college. That can be quite a turnoff as well.

Dbrog
11-05-2013, 02:53 PM
Why is he shooting so many 3's? He should get his baskets closer to the rim. He's got some size on him. It's still too early, he might explode for 30 in the next game. But I just have this feeling that he was taken 1st as a joke. He's basically a fall guy. I hope he does better. A number 1 pick has to contribute. Lin wasn't even drafted so he's done great.

This. Idk what happened either. In the preseason he showed he already has decent post-moves and a pretty legit post-fadeaway. Idk why he has resorted to an almost Derrick Williams role in the regular season (go to perimeter and jack em up till benched). I actually see quite a bit of similarities between them..though Bennett definitely has more upside. I agree with others. He should be much better once he gains his confidence. I guess my question is will he be able to do it on this team? Cavs are pretty much looking to win now and just aren't giving him that many minutes.

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2013, 05:50 PM
I was not posting much, if anything on the draft. I had very little interest on it because it was not relevant to my rooting interest. But I will say this about Robinson vs Drummond. Drummond came into college as a barely 18 year old freshmen and played really well. He had very high potential and everyone knew it. Robinson did nothing his freshmen and sophomore seasons then exploded his junior season. That is usually a red flag for me. A NBA player does well in their freshmen or at least sophomore seasons in college. I am a huge fan on big men especially with potential. I think big men are very underrated and perimeter players are very overrated. I was always a fan on Drummond.

Drummond was certainly a far superior pick than Waiters, who is a shooting guard and an inefficient chucker at that. Waiters did not even do much in college as a SO. He was an average SG prospect- 13-2-2 was his stat line. I would almost never take a SG prospect over a top big man propsect.

In the NBA Waiters has done nothing to impress me. He has been unimpressive so far this season. He was not impresive last season either with his 41% fg. He only had one good (but not great) month last season, and high volume chuckers by the laws of statistics will always have occasional good months.

Thompson is impressive though. He was a good pick. Irving was a very good pick, but unfortunately Drummond was a gigantic miss. He is gonna be a top 4-5 player within the few years imo. Dominant centers are very rare. He has it.
It's very easy to say that it was a no-brainer now. Go back and read the threads at the time. A very small minority of people were talking about Drummond that high. I was one of them. IGotGame was another. There was maybe one or two others.

Everyone else was sh!tting all over him.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266633&page=12

As for Waiters, there's no doubt in my mind that we'll look back at that draft years from now and he'll be considered one of the best players to come out of it. I think Drummond has "best center in the NBA" potential, so will he reach those kinds of heights? That's doubtful. And, as much as I like Drummond, he's still no sure thing either.

But, Waiters will at the very least be a solid starting SG in this league or a great sixth man off the bench. When you consider real busts that are drafted every year -- like a Thomas Robinson or a Jan Vesely -- that isn't such a bad thing.

And, I think solid starter/great 6th man is worst case scenario. He has the talent and work ethic to be a top flight 2-guard. He was the second highest scoring rookie in the league last year behind only Lillard and he did so with a better FG% than guys like Brad Beal (just barely).

So far, he's been far from a bust. It's unrealistic to expect a team to take the best guy available every year, like it looks like the Cavs MAY have done in 2011 with both picks. That's not going to happen every year or even most years. I don't care if we're talking about the Bobcats or the Spurs.

And, Drummond slipping to 9th is proof that the Cavs' opinion on him was more in line with consensus and not an outlier.

When it comes to drafting in the NBA, the biggest thing is just to avoid completely striking out on a pick and the Cavs have not done that yet. We'll see about Bennett, but I think he'll eventually be good. It's way too early to make any kind of even half-@ssed opinion, let alone definitive statements.

outbreak
11-05-2013, 05:53 PM
doesn't anyone remember at the time how drummond was being described as the kind of big man who could get a GM fired if he doesn't pan out? Noone considered him a sure thing

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2013, 05:57 PM
This. Idk what happened either. In the preseason he showed he already has decent post-moves and a pretty legit post-fadeaway. Idk why he has resorted to an almost Derrick Williams role in the regular season (go to perimeter and jack em up till benched). I actually see quite a bit of similarities between them..though Bennett definitely has more upside. I agree with others. He should be much better once he gains his confidence. I guess my question is will he be able to do it on this team? Cavs are pretty much looking to win now and just aren't giving him that many minutes.
It didn't matter who they drafted, that was going to be the case. There wasn't a single guy in that draft who would start for the Cavs right now or get a ton of minutes right away. They knew Bennett was a work in progress and wasn't going to come out of the gates getting 25-30 minutes a night.

I doubt the organization is worried about his slow offensive start. It sounded like their biggest concerns about him initially was his defensive focus. That's been there for the most part. I even think part of his offensive struggles may be because he's been focusing so much on improving at the other end.

He's still getting minutes and that's because he has shown capable on the defensive end. The offense will come eventually.

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2013, 06:02 PM
doesn't anyone remember at the time how drummond was being described as the kind of big man who could get a GM fired if he doesn't pan out? Noone considered him a sure thing
Like I said... revisionist history. It's very easy to look back and criticize GMs now. All you have to do is go back and look at the threads.

There were three or four staunch Drummond supporters. Again, I know because I was one of them. The rest of the board? Not so much.

Who should the Cavs take at 4? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267665)

Kujo
11-05-2013, 06:07 PM
He was also playing with two ball dominant guards, one of who was a total moron on the court (Napier). I think his lack of assertiveness on offense owed a lot to that. He was still a monster on defense.

It still hurts that we picked Ross over this kid. How good would a Drummond/Val front line look right now?

AB will fine. He looked pretty good in the pre-season. He's just pressing right now. He needs to let the game come to him. Stop shooting 3's, and work inside.

Qwyjibo
11-05-2013, 06:09 PM
It still hurts that we picked Ross over this kid. How good would a Drummond/Val front line look right now?
I think about it every single time I'm reminded of the existence of either Ross, Drummond or the Detroit Pistons. After all the mounds of crap, that draft pick was the cherry on top of Colangelo's "**** you, Toronto" sundae.

Fresh Kid
11-05-2013, 06:14 PM
you damn skippy dat fat alwayz outta breath bitch will be, o yes!:applause: :lol

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2013, 09:12 PM
It still hurts that we picked Ross over this kid. How good would a Drummond/Val front line look right now?

AB will fine. He looked pretty good in the pre-season. He's just pressing right now. He needs to let the game come to him. Stop shooting 3's, and work inside.
I think part of the problem is the Cavs are competing to win games now, so there's added pressure when AB does step on the floor, fans are looking for production. It isn't like that most of the time for No. 1 picks.

First of all, they almost always get more than 10-15 minutes a night to get their feet wet and get in a rhythm. Secondly, there isn't usually much expected from the teams who pick first, so the pressure isn't as intense. That's the way it was for Kyrie/Tristan and even Waiters to an extent. This Cavs team is different and people are expecting them to compete for the postseason in the East.

The fact that Bennett being on the floor is taking time away from guys like Thompson, Varejao, Bynum, etc. is tough for the kid, I'm sure.

In the end, I think this humbling start to his career may end up helping him. The Cavs have still gotten off to a pretty good start, so it's not like his poor play is killing the team. He's too talented to continue playing so poorly offensively. A couple made shots and he'll be fine.

chris02jammers
11-06-2013, 10:06 PM
BENNETT made a SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow