Lebron has better rivals than Kobe

[GovernmentMan]

Lebros has Melo, Pierce, KD, Paul George

[russwest0]

Michael Jordan laughs at these clowns

[Magic 32]

Lebros has Melo, Pierce, KD, Paul George

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUebv6ATh8

[DuMa]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/819938589.gif

[kNicKz]

Kobe didn't play against Pierce in the Finals twice?

:roll:

[kennethgriffin]

kobe has no real rivals because he's that much better than all of them

but people tried creating rivals from 2000-2010 for leagues best all around player with these guys




2000 - vince ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2001 - iverson ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2002 - tmac ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2003 - tmac ( kobe going farther in the playoffs +1 )
2004 - tmac ( kobe making the finals, father in the playoffs +1 )
2005 - iverson ( injured )
2006 - wade ( kwame/smush )
2007 - lebron ( kwame/smush )
2008 - lebron ( kobe making the finals, farther in the playoffs +1 )
2009 - lebron ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2010 - lebron ( kobe winning the title +1 )



its very rare any of kobes closest competition ever got the better of him

[Trollsmasher]

Michael Jordan laughs at these clowns
True. Jordan had who? 190 pound John Starks? GOAT competition:applause:

[GovernmentMan]

kobe has no real rivals because he's that much better than all of them

but people tried creating rivals from 2000-2010 for leagues best all around player with these guys




2000 - vince ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2001 - iverson ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2002 - tmac ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2003 - tmac ( kobe going farther in the playoffs +1 )
2004 - tmac ( kobe making the finals, father in the playoffs +1 )
2005 - iverson ( injured )
2006 - wade ( kwame/smush )
2007 - lebron ( kwame/smush )
2008 - lebron ( kobe making the finals, farther in the playoffs +1 )
2009 - lebron ( kobe winning the title +1 )
2010 - lebron ( kobe winning the title +1 )



its very rare for any of kobes closest competition ever got the better of him

why are you mentioning team success? "going farther in the playoffs"? wtf

"winning the title"? they didn't even play each other in the playoffs

Lebron got the best of him every time they met

maybe this is why you have a red reputation

[kennethgriffin]

why are you mentioning team success? "going farther in the playoffs"? wtf

"winning the title"? they didn't even play each other in the playoffs

Lebron got the best of him every time they met

maybe this is why you have a red reputation

wait.. so you dont count playoff wins/titles/success

but you count 1 or 2 regular season victories?

and if you're just talking about minor outscoring or out assisting ( AND NOT THAT HORRIBLE TEAM SUCCESS ) during a single or maybe even both regular season matchups ( god forbid! ) ...

....i think winning a championship while averaging 25-30ppg is better than winning a single game during the regular season and choking in the playoffs


sorry.. but the 00's belonged to kobe

4 time player of the decade winner by SI, SN, Dime, TNT



lebron didnt start getting the better of kobe until kobe was entirely past his prime

however... kobe won titles during lebrons prime

deal with it son

:lol

[HoopsFanNumero1]

wait.. so you dont count playoff wins/titles/success

but you count 1 or 2 regular season victories?

and if you're just talking about minor outscoring or out assisting ( AND NOT THAT HORRIBLE TEAM SUCCESS ) during a single or maybe even both regular season matchups ( god forbid! ) ...

....i think winning a championship while averaging 25-30ppg is better than winning a single game during the regular season and choking in the playoffs


sorry.. but the 00's belonged to kobe

4 time player of the decade winner by SI, SN, Dime, TNT



lebron didnt start getting the better of kobe until kobe was entirely past his prime

however... kobe won titles during lebrons prime

deal with it son

:lol

What a useless post. How is any of that relevant when they didn't even meet during the playoffs?

[Droid101]

What a useless post. How is any of that relevant when they didn't even meet during the playoffs?
...that he had a better run overall?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

...that he had a better run overall?

That wasn't the discussion, now was it? They only matched-up during the RS and overall, Lebron got the better of Kobe. Can't discuss playoffs if they never had a series.

[riseagainst]

didn't play Kobe play against T-MAc, Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson, Reggie Miller, etc?

[Droid101]

That wasn't the discussion, now was it? They only matched-up during the RS and overall, Lebron got the better of Kobe. Can't discuss playoffs if they never had a series.
Kobe won championships against teams with better players than LeBron has won against. The End.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Kobe won championships against teams with better players than LeBron has won against. The End.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Magic 32]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1475900/kobe-celebration-o.gif

[kennethgriffin]

What a useless post. How is any of that relevant when they didn't even meet during the playoffs?

hmmmmm

ummmmmm


if a player wins a title in the same league/season/playoffs the other guy who choked in ... hmmm .... i wonder who did better

but we'l never know according to you. because both guys are losers since they didnt face each other in the playoffs

kobes 2009 and 2010 titles are now stripped from his resume. lebron didnt put himself in a position to get beatin.. kobe beat the guy who beat lebron

ooooohwellllllllllllll

:coleman: f*ck i'm gonna take the rest of the night off from ISH.

:facepalm


lebron didnt do better than kobe the last 2 years either i guess

he didnt beat kobe in the playoffs!!!!!! those FMVPS dont count! DERP!

[leMVP]

Kobe won championships against teams with better players than LeBron has won against. The End.


:facepalm

[RRR3]

http://i.imgur.com/Hk2Vb.png

[HoopsFanNumero1]

hmmmmm

ummmmmm


if a player wins a title in the same league/season/playoffs the other guy who choked in ... hmmm .... i wonder who did better

but we'l never know according to you. because both guys are losers since they didnt face each other in the playoffs

kobes 2009 and 2010 titles are now stripped from his resume. lebron didnt put himself in a position to get beatin.. kobe beat the guy who beat lebron

ooooohwellllllllllllll

:coleman: f*ck i'm gonna take the rest of the night off from ISH.

:facepalm

Typical low IQ fan acting like one person can beat a team.

[kennethgriffin]

http://i.imgur.com/Hk2Vb.png


http://i44.tinypic.com/zsveba.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

Typical low IQ fan acting like one person can beat a team.



i dont care anymore

go argue with barkley fans if you wanna say titles dont count

sorry but

comparable players are ranked based on titles

if a player is an MVP winner. his titles are compared with other MVP winners

role player titles are compared with role players

yada yada you should get the picture. but you're an idiot



this is you in this gif right ?

http://i41.tinypic.com/5nw0uc.gif


trying to show you're as good as your mortal enemy?

[Droid101]

:facepalm
Great rebuttal there. Nicely worded. I applaud your perspicacity.

[KingBeasley08]

People that think Kobe is a better player than Lebron are now a minority. This isn't 2009 anymore. No need for these kinda threads anymore.


Pretty much all non-Kobe stans know Lebron > Kobe all time

[kennethgriffin]

People that think Kobe is a better player than Lebron are now a minority. This isn't 2009 anymore. No need for these kinda threads anymore.


Pretty much all non-Kobe stans know Lebron > Kobe all time


who seriously gives a crap if kobe at 35 in year 18 with a torn achilles is as good as absolute prime lebron james


kobe won 2 titles during lebrons prime

lebron won 2 titles after kobes 10 year prime was long but over

thats all that matters

and all time rankings are also on kobes side


you didnt see us kobe fans bragging that kobe was better than shaq in 2006... because shaq was old... we moved on. lebron fans are obviously b*tthurt

[KingBeasley08]

who seriously gives a crap if kobe at 35 in year 18 with a torn achilles is as good as absolute prime lebron james


kobe won 2 titles during lebrons prime

lebron won 2 titles after kobes 10 year prime was long but over

thats all that matters

and all time rankings are also on kobes side


you didnt see us kobe fans bragging that kobe was better than shaq in 2006... because shaq was old... we moved on. lebron fans are obviously b*tthurt
Oh, you misunderstood me. Lebron's been better than Kobe side by side since 2009. I was talking about all time

[kennethgriffin]

Oh, you misunderstood me. Lebron's been better than Kobe side by side since 2009. I was talking about all time


not from what i saw.. i think kobe had the last laugh

try watching some playoff games

[Boston C's]

Lebros has Melo, Pierce, KD, Paul George

u can't be serious...the 2000's were the golden era of swingmen...kobes competition included in no order

iverson, mcgrady, carter, allen, pierce, redd, johnson, arenas, hamilton, ginobli, etc

[KingBeasley08]

not from what i saw.. i think kobe had the last laugh

try watching some playoff games
Since when was Kobe some special, legendary player :lol

Kobe: 25.6/5.1/4.7 on 45%
Lebron: 28.1/8.4/6.6 on 47%


:roll: :roll:

[Droid101]

Since when was Kobe some special, legendary player :lol

Kobe: 25.6/5.1/4.7 on 45%
Lebron: 28.1/8.4/6.6 on 47%


:roll: :roll:
More rings, more Finals appearances.

You're ignored.

[Magic 32]

Since when was Kobe some special, legendary player :lol

Kobe: 25.6/5.1/4.7 on 45%
Lebron: 28.1/8.4/6.6 on 47%

:roll: :roll:

What comes up, must go down. Lets look at those stats when Lebron is 35.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

i dont care anymore

go argue with barkley fans if you wanna say titles dont count

sorry but

comparable players are ranked based on titles

if a player is an MVP winner. his titles are compared with other MVP winners

role player titles are compared with role players

yada yada you should get the picture. but you're an idiot



this is you in this gif right ?

http://i41.tinypic.com/5nw0uc.gif


trying to show you're as good as your mortal enemy?

So you say "kobe beat the guy who beat lebron" as your reasoning for why Kobe is better and I'm the idiot here.

Stick to posting gifs like that other clown Magic32.

[KingBeasley08]

More rings, more Finals appearances.

You're ignored.
Looking at rings just by themselves is stupid. Else we'd have Russell as the GOAT. The more telling statistic is that the two already are even in FMVPs

Only one who ignores is someone getting his ass kicked. I wish we could debate more but it's ok if you're too beta to respond :cheers:

[kennethgriffin]

Since when was Kobe some special, legendary player :lol

Kobe: 25.6/5.1/4.7 on 45%
Lebron: 28.1/8.4/6.6 on 47%


:roll: :roll:


kobes 1st 2 years brought down his career average by playing the 6th man role

his career average as a starter is 28ppg/6reb/5ast from 1998-99 to 2012-13

and even so.. career averages dont tell the whole story


look at the top 10 players ever compared to the top 10 scoring averages...


players
- jordan
- kareem
- russell
- wilt
- magic
- kobe
- bird
- shaq
- duncan
- hakeem

ppg
- jordan
- wilt
- lebron
- baylor
- west
- iverson
- durant
- pettit
- gervin
- robinson


high PPG is usually reserved for guys who dont win allot... like baylor, west, iverson, durant, gervin, robinson


sometimes to win you gotta sacrifice. lebrons only just now started doing that after a decade.. and surprise surprise.. he starts winning

[KingBeasley08]

kobes 1st 2 years brought down his career average by playing the 6th man role

his career average as a starter is 28ppg/6reb/5ast from 1998-99 to 2012-13

and even so.. career averages dont tell the whole story


look at the top 10 players ever compared to the top 10 scoring averages...


players
- jordan
- kareem
- russell
- wilt
- magic
- kobe
- bird
- shaq
- duncan
- hakeem

ppg
- jordan
- wilt
- lebron
- baylor
- west
- iverson
- durant
- pettit
- gervin
- robinson


high PPG is usually reserved for guys who dont win allot... like baylor, west, iverson, durant, gervin, robinson


sometimes to win you gotta sacrifice. lebrons only just now started doing that after a decade.. and surprise surprise.. he starts winning
Why should we ignore his first two years? If he wasn't good enough to play, that's on him. You wouldn't throw his first two years out if he was playing good, would you?

As for high PPG, is that what it is now? Are you now admitting that 2009 Lebron >>> 2006 Kobe?

[kennethgriffin]

Why should we ignore his first two years? If he wasn't good enough to play, that's on him. You wouldn't throw his first two years out if he was playing good, would you?

As for high PPG, is that what it is now? Are you now admitting that 2009 Lebron >>> 2006 Kobe?

the point is you're trying to say a guy is better because he was superior at age 18 and 19

who cares

kobes overall career and level of skill is higher

kobe is infinitely more fundamentally sound, his footwork, midrange, post game, left hand is far superior

the GOAT michael jordan says only kobe could beat him. he also says lebron wouldnt even come close in 1on1

kobe has the respect of all his piers.. lebron doesnt

how about lebron fans worry about catching birds 3. then duncans 4.. then kobes 5

and if you get that lucky. then think about jordans 6

you guys wanna jump the gun so much. RELAX!

[NumberSix]

the point is you're trying to say a guy is better because he was superior at age 18 and 19

who cares

kobes overall career and level of skill is higher

kobe is infinitely more fundamentally sound, his footwork, midrange, post game, left hand is far superior

the GOAT michael jordan says only kobe could beat him. he also says lebron wouldnt even come close in 1on1

kobe has the respect of all his piers.. lebron doesnt

how about lebron fans worry about catching birds 3. then duncans 4.. then kobes 5

and if you get that lucky. then think about jordans 6

you guys wanna jump the gun so much. RELAX!
Fine then. Erase both Kobe and LeBron's first 2 years. G'head. Who's better?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Rivals make a nice story for documentary videos that look back on a players career and such.


They really have nothing to do with measuring a player.

[eliteballer]

LOL.....how convenient that LeBron hasn't had to face any of those guys while he's been in his prime and they have either been too young or too old.

On a super team no less...

[KingBeasley08]

the point is you're trying to say a guy is better because he was superior at age 18 and 19

who cares

kobes overall career and level of skill is higher

kobe is infinitely more fundamentally sound, his footwork, midrange, post game, left hand is far superior

the GOAT michael jordan says only kobe could beat him. he also says lebron wouldnt even come close in 1on1

kobe has the respect of all his piers.. lebron doesnt

how about lebron fans worry about catching birds 3. then duncans 4.. then kobes 5

and if you get that lucky. then think about jordans 6

you guys wanna jump the gun so much. RELAX!
I look at a guy's complete body of work as they're playing. If we're going only by peak, Lebron is probably top 3 all time so let's not even go there.

Now, you brought up a bunch of irrelevant points. Shaq wasn't skilled at all. Still a top 10 player all time. Michael Jordan is a guy who drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

[kennethgriffin]

Fine then. Erase both Kobe and LeBron's first 2 years. G'head. Who's better?


the only guy who can beat da GOAT in 1 on 1 according to da GOAT

























:lebronamazed:

[talkingconch]

why are you mentioning team success? "going farther in the playoffs"? wtf

"winning the title"? they didn't even play each other in the playoffs

Lebron got the best of him every time they met

maybe this is why you have a red reputation
Lebron failed to make the finals every time. Kobe made it from 2008-2010. You expect us to win every year while your boy finds a stacked team? Get out.

And its also sad that Lebron is considered a Rival to Kobe considering Kobe was STILL playing at a top level in his 14th season while Lebron was supposedly in his peak.

**** up

[RRR3]

Lebron failed to make the finals every time. Kobe made it from 2008-2010. You expect us to win every year while your boy finds a stacked team? Get out.
LeBron was waiting for Kobrick in 2007 :confusedshrug:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

LOL.....how convenient that LeBron hasn't had to face any of those guys while he's been in his prime and they have either been too young or too old.

On a super team no less...

Which guys?

[kennethgriffin]

LeBron was waiting for Kobrick in 2007 :confusedshrug:

oh common... kobe had kwame and smush


only time both were prime and both on contending teams was

2008/2009/2010


its the only time their career paths overlapped

lebron failed all 3 times to make the finals

[talkingconch]

LeBron was waiting for Kobrick in 2007 :confusedshrug:
1 year LOL? What about 2008? Early exit sorry. 2009? LOL early exit sorry. 2010? hahaha I GIVE UP GIVE ME A STACKED TEAM.

**** off and stop posting.

[Magic 32]

LeBron was waiting for Kobrick in 2007 :confusedshrug:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061129

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