Poor People are Ruining this Country

[bagelred]

Poor People steal all our money with their crazy social progams, and finally the video to prove it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

[nathanjizzle]

Poor People still all our money with their crazy social progams, and finally the video to prove it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

dumb people as well.

[bagelred]

dumb people as well.

Haha that's what happens when you don't check your work.

[OldSkoolball#52]

I'm here to tell you guys, you do not have to feel guilty about spending 80 dollars on basketball tickets every once in a while. Because Mitt Romney has a lot more money than that.



You see folks, paying 80 USD to go sit in a climate controlled building and watch some guys throw a ball around for a few hours is not the same as owning your own private jet! Not to some homeless, war-torn refugees in third world countries it's not. You just ask 'em. They'll tell you there's a world of difference between going to a Lakers game at Staples Center, and flying on a jet. My god, the fact that people like Romney can't even see the difference just makes my freaking blood boil..

My fellow citizens, we need to start RECOGNIZING, that the cut off for being rich and greedy, is just above our heads. It is definitely NOT what we all make. Basketball games are nothing! Are you kidding me?? We are the 99%.

We here in the American middle class, we deserve to go watch a basketball game every now and then. With 20 dollar parking and 10 dollar nachos, let's say it's about a hundred bucks by the end of the night. Per person. So what? Wall Street executives pay $1,000 for spa treatments! I'm not kidding, $1,000!! I've personally met folks in rural China who toil away in poverty, picking cabbage all day long for less than 2 dollars per day. And what these 9 year olds have told me is that $100 for a basketball game is pretty damn reasonable. A $1,000 spa treatment? That's just downright insulting.


It's time to start calling out the REAL hypocrites out there, and pointing out who the REAL selfish bastards are!

....I'm talking about rich people of course.

The people making over 250,000 a year!

Or is it 400,000 now? I forget which one Obama decided was the cut off for wealth. But whatever it is, WE damn sure don't make it! We aint no 1%!!!!!




Sure, you make $50,000 a year, you drive a Honda and wear Nikes. But that's nothing. That's barely surviving. Mitt Romney owns a YACHT. And if you ask any starving Ethiopian out there, driving a Honda and having a yacht are not even in the same ballpark. NOT IN THE SAME BALLPARK.


Wake up people. Realize what's going on. We are on the side of virtue. There's a lot of famine out there, a lot of unclean water causing a ton of disease and death, war, and some seriously brutal conditions. And we all know this, because we can relate. 65,000 a year barely gets you by! It's time we end the ridiculous lap of luxury that jerks like Mitt Romney and stupid George Bush get to live in while we suffer. How INCREDIBLY ****ING SELFISH CAN YOU BE???

... I'm talking about rich people of course.


Stop examining yourself. Start examining your neighbor to see if he's making more than you. I'm working to get a hotline set up for reporting people you suspect make more than you think they should. If you have to scrape by at $40,000 per year, let us know! We're gonna find someone who makes at least twice that, and by golly we are gonna do what is right, just, compassionate, and HUMANITARIAN ON A FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL... We're gonna move some of his money over to you.


I know in the past I've said conservative things. I've said things like "The focus shouldn't be on someones bank account, it should be on having strong cultural values. We should care more about teen pregnancy rates than Mitt Romney's tax returns." Well I've had a change of heart! Now I've seen the light, and by god I am a liberal. I'm done telling people what to do to help themselves. It's time to start telling them how much they owe me. I'm gonna let them know that I am a very intellectual, philosophical person, I wear all the clothes and the shoes and go to the same coffee shops that all the really smart anti-establishment guys go to, I totally fit right in, and I know just exactly how much everyone should have the right to make, and that its pretty clear to anyone paying attention, that the so-called "right to earn" as you please ENDS... just above MY tax bracket.


We're all paying, what, 30 bucks a month for internet? If that could keep one starving child alive in Gabon, just imagine what Romney's Time Warner package could do??? He probably has 3D capability and all the movie channels, and he could probably keep TEN kids alive per WEEK! So if you think about it, it really makes no sense for us to give up what we have to give more back. If we can only save one life per month, it's really kinda silly for us to bother when comparatively Mitt Romney could save more. I mean, really silly when you think about it.

A lot of stuff we buy every day comes from very poor countries. But I'm not tryin to hear about our "responsibility to give back to a world we've gained so much from." MOTHER****ER, WE DONT MAKE 400,000 A YEAR! ONLY 60K! OR 45! OR 90! ****ing peanuts, I spit on the jerks like Romney who hold me down. He should be LIFTING ME UP TO BE AS RICH AS HIM. I am a moralist, and I want equality. I want to have everything he does, and that's pretty damn virtuous of me. My god I am such an intellectual humanitarian. For gods sake, I bought these Toms shoes knowing full well Tom would donate a pair to someone also. Which is why I did it. What has Mitt Romney ever givendeded to charities? Tens of millions? Oh, so Mr. Fancypants probably thinks he's better than me then??? SCREW HIM.



We're not the bad guys. Basketball games, Hondas, Nikes, Time Warner Internet, Britta water filters in our Frigidaire refrigerators? These pale in comparison to what George Bush's Wall Street Cronies have. They have fish tanks in their living rooms the size of my living room. It's bullshit, that's what it is. It's about god damn time that we did what is RIGHT. That we fight for EQUALITY.

Disease in Africa. Starvation in China. Violence in South America, war and oppression in the Middle East. We as liberals need to get together, and D.E.M.A.N.D. that these greedy, heartless, avaricious, demonic bastards who own corporations start doing what is RIGHT - and giving more of their money to middle class Americans.



We are so much smarter than Republicans and have much better morals. We truly are the definition of selfless, unlike those guys on Wall Street. Why can't those greedy guys be as compassionate as we all are??? Of course they never could, because they're not as hip and intellectual as we are.

We're the good guys. We're the humanitarians who wanna change the world for the greater good. So what we go to basketball games. It's not the same as having a yacht. It's like night and day.

Cancel those trips you've booked to go volunteer in Mayanmar. Let stupid conservative rich bastard Tim Tebow go on those missions to help poor children in third world countries. WE'LL expose how selfish he is!

Stay entitled, my friends.

Quantum Probability bless the 99%....

[OldSkoolball#52]

American liberals:

Jealous of the people who make more than them.

Don't give a shit about the people who make less.

Act morally advanced and superior because of it.



The Great Liberal Delusion...

[It's A VC3!!!]

cool video. i think there should pay higher pay in some jobs because not everyone can be a CEO, investment banker, IT specialist, or a real estate mogul. and for those people that cannot perform any of the mentioned jobs, they are going to only earn enough money to pay their bills. crazy chart though.

[ZenMaster]

cool video. i think there should pay higher pay in some jobs because not everyone can be a CEO, investment banker, IT specialist, or a real estate mogul. and for those people that cannot perform any of the mentioned jobs, they are going to only earn enough money to pay their bills. crazy chart though.

Not a crazy chart but crazy reality.

[Dresta]

The guy that made this video is a moron.

He thinks the Soviet Union failed because people didn't have the incentive to work: wrong!

He also seems to think that the state is capable of determining what a 'fair' wage is for every job - what a clueless douche.

The political elite of this country are screwing everyone over. His solution: give them more powers and responsibilities, because that'll make things 'fair' - jesus!

[KevinNYC]

We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams
But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece
Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash

[KevinNYC]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/business/stratospheric-views-and-prices.html

$11,000 a foot.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

rich people are making sure poor people stay poor

[bagelred]

The political elite of this country are screwing everyone over. His solution: give them more powers and responsibilities, because that'll make things 'fair' - jesus!

huh?

[Swaggin916]

American liberals:

Jealous of the people who make more than them.

Don't give a shit about the people who make less.

Act morally advanced and superior because of it.



The Great Liberal Delusion...

There is a bit of truth to that and with some more than others, but the other part of the coin that you are not acknowledging is the lets stop acting like selfish apes side.

Conservative ideology is more animal based. You are only worth what you provide to the pack. You work to become top dog or be an assistant to top dog. It's competition based and challenges are always welcome. The big boys eat first and the others eat second. It works OK for packs and tribes, even small societies... but is shitty for large populations. It just stirs shit up to no end.

Liberal ideology simply recognizes the dysfunction and tries to better life for all people in general. the conservative mindset still works in their system... for it is the base for growth, but not everybody is interested in pushing the limits... some people are happy where they are.

It's the equivalent of going to a new gym to play basketball. When you get there the vibe is friendly and people don't play that serious. You thrive off competition... so you play really hard and serious and throw off the whole vibe of the gym. Some people will embrace the change, some people won't. Some were happy with the way it was. Is that a crime? Is it a crime to be satisfied? To not want to work very hard? Some people don't have much energy... just the way they are wired. Should they have to be cracked out on coffee just to keep up?

I just don't see how people can sit so far on one side of the fence... it's appalling really. Both make complete and total sense.

[OldSkoolball#52]

There is a bit of truth to that and with some more than others, but the other part of the coin that you are not acknowledging is the lets stop acting like selfish apes side.

Conservative ideology is more animal based. You are only worth what you provide to the pack. You work to become top dog or be an assistant to top dog. It's competition based and challenges are always welcome. The big boys eat first and the others eat second. It works OK for packs and tribes, even small societies... but is shitty for large populations. It just stirs shit up to no end.

Liberal ideology simply recognizes the dysfunction and tries to better life for all people in general. the conservative mindset still works in their system... for it is the base for growth, but not everybody is interested in pushing the limits... some people are happy where they are.




What I can agree with is that governing larger groups of people becomes harder as the group gets bigger.

Which is why states rights should be more strongly emphasized. Why do we need a broad, far reaching government making people in Louisiana live by the same ideals people in Los Angeles want them to and vice versa? Democrats dont want the state telling them who can have abortions or who can get married, but theyre ok with the state telling others who must purchase medical coverage, how many of each demographic must be admitted by schools, who's "fair share" of tax revenue is greatest etc. When a conservative policy comes up, theyre up in arms about the government "overstepping its reach, and violating civil liberties." When a liberal policy comes up theyre all for "regulation, and promoting the general welfare." In other words, it's "mindless hypocrisy."


Moreover, if you allowed states more autonomy, the healthy competition would improve quality of life. States would want to adopt policies that make them favorable places to live. They would also be more responsible for managing their own budget. Plus each persons vote would have more weight than it does in national affairs.


As Dresta mentioned - A system run by companies who compete against each other is not perfect. But its better than a system run by a government that competes with no one. These ideologue idiots think as long as Democrats are in charge, the government will be run honestly. :lol I mean seriously, it shows you how stunted a lot of these peoples understanding of social science is.

[niko]

http://i.imgur.com/MoEt3ha.gif

[Dresta]

huh?
Pretty obvious really: he makes a call to make things 'fairer', obviously implying that the federal government should simply redistribute the money in a fair way. He completely avoids the fact that everyone has a different opinion as to what is 'fair' and so any attempts to make it so must be arbitrary by nature. He also ignores that the expansion of the powers attributed to the federal government have been the biggest factor in making things as bad as they are.

There is a bit of truth to that and with some more than others, but the other part of the coin that you are not acknowledging is the lets stop acting like selfish apes side.

Conservative ideology is more animal based. You are only worth what you provide to the pack. You work to become top dog or be an assistant to top dog. It's competition based and challenges are always welcome. The big boys eat first and the others eat second. It works OK for packs and tribes, even small societies... but is shitty for large populations. It just stirs shit up to no end.

Liberal ideology simply recognizes the dysfunction and tries to better life for all people in general. the conservative mindset still works in their system... for it is the base for growth, but not everybody is interested in pushing the limits... some people are happy where they are.

It's the equivalent of going to a new gym to play basketball. When you get there the vibe is friendly and people don't play that serious. You thrive off competition... so you play really hard and serious and throw off the whole vibe of the gym. Some people will embrace the change, some people won't. Some were happy with the way it was. Is that a crime? Is it a crime to be satisfied? To not want to work very hard? Some people don't have much energy... just the way they are wired. Should they have to be cracked out on coffee just to keep up?

Yeah, it tries, and fails miserably, and then when it fails it claims that something else made it fail, and so tries again and makes everything even worse... and on, and on.

Renaming socialism liberalism does not make it any more viable, sorry to say. People who desperately try to force things to be better, and to improve the condition of man through the power of the state, have routinely created the worst societies throughout history.

Regardless, relying on the meaningless and increasingly blurred liberal/conservative dichotomy is a pretty sure sign of superficial understanding: they just don't stand for anything tangible anymore. Libertarians are the people who propose the most radical change from how things are currently managed, yet they are frequently called conservatives by 'liberals' who are far more conservative than they are (you can only see this if you understand what conservatism actually means, not how it is used by the inanities that shape contemporary political discourse).

[cuad]

Will y'all shut the **** up with your shitty academic babble?


rich people are making sure poor people stay poor

It's as simple as this.

I got a Nietzsche quote for your bitch-asses.


Will y'all shut the **** up with your shitty academic babble?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Will y'all shut the **** up with your shitty academic babble?



It's as simple as this.

I got a Nietzsche quote for your bitch-asses.


Are you poor or rich?

[Dresta]

Will y'all shut the **** up with your shitty academic babble?



It's as simple as this.

I got a Nietzsche quote for your bitch-asses.
Nietzsche would tell you to **** off and take your weak-ass slave morality with you.

[bagelred]

Pretty obvious really: he makes a call to make things 'fairer', obviously implying that the federal government should simply redistribute the money in a fair way.

The money was ALREADY redistributed in an unfair way. The tax rates on rich were lowered to get the rich all the money. Yes, we want the money back.

Your assumptions are off in a lot of ways. The wealth disaprity in this country is just unbelievably ridiculous, and you just shrug. "That's the way it is." Uh...no. How did the rich get so wealthy?

300 million Americans agree to live together by a set of rules, if the rules benefit all of us. Why do the poor and middle class...heck, even upper middle class have to let the Top 1% have everything? Why? How bout we collectively kill the Top 1% and take back the wealth? If you don't want that to happen, create a fairer system where we ALL benefit. Or we'll just have a revolution.

[Dresta]

The money was ALREADY redistributed in an unfair way. The tax rates on rich were lowered to get the rich all the money. Yes, we want the money back.

Your assumptions are off in a lot of ways. The wealth disaprity in this country is just unbelievably ridiculous, and you just shrug. "That's the way it is." Uh...no. How did the rich get so wealthy?

300 million Americans agree to live together by a set of rules, if the rules benefit all of us. Why do the poor and middle class...heck, even upper middle class have to let the Top 1% have everything? Why? How bout we collectively kill the Top 1% and take back the wealth? If you don't want that to happen, create a fairer system where we ALL benefit. Or we'll just have a revolution.
:roll:

No argument here, just more ad hominem bullcrap (as typical of those bent on making things 'fairer'). It is impossible to create this magical place where all benefit, and it is impossible to make things fairer by granting more powers to the federal government. The rich did not get so wealthy because 'tax rates were lowered' - that is simplistic bollocks.

If you think that a country as vast as the United States can be run fairly by a central authority, then you are living your life so detached from reality that you might as well go and commit yourself.

Here is something written in the 1830s: 'Great wealth and profound misery, big cities, depraved morals, individual selfishness, and complication of interests are among the perils that almost always exist in large states.' (sound like somewhere you know?)

This is why the United States was founded as a confederation of states, and not a huge land-mass governed by a central authority. It is why the states were granted autonomy, and were supposed to have all powers that were not strictly granted to the federal government by the Constitution. This was supposed to allow the United States to gain all the advantages that small states have, while forgoing the weaknesses that are their frequent accompaniment. It isn't my fault the last 100 years have been spent trampling over the rights of states, and arrogating every conceivable power to an overstretched central authority. What do you expect me to do about it? You accuse me of shrugging, but i'm not, i'm merely saying what will make it worse.

A lot of problems could be overcome if people of your ilk could realise that the state is never a force for good, but invariably a force for evil. This has been known by just about every worthwhile political theorist from time immemorial (even Marx's supposed utopia was dependant on the withering away of the state). The problem now is that, as the education system has expanded with democracy far beyond what is needed, it has become awash with mediocrities who can't learn, let alone teach, and so political discourse is so full of white noise that no one knows what to think; they are just overwhelmed with information.

And no, we aren't going to have a revolution: not for a long time. The majority of people are far too satisfied with their current condition to risk their personal safety in that way. People are timid by nature, and most in modern society are pretty comfortable.

[MadeFromDust]

Pretty obvious really: he makes a call to make things 'fairer', obviously implying that the federal government should simply redistribute the money in a fair way. He completely avoids the fact that everyone has a different opinion as to what is 'fair' and so any attempts to make it so must be arbitrary by nature. He also ignores that the expansion of the powers attributed to the federal government have been the biggest factor in making things as bad as they are.
Yeah, it tries, and fails miserably, and then when it fails it claims that something else made it fail, and so tries again and makes everything even worse... and on, and on.

Renaming socialism liberalism does not make it any more viable, sorry to say. People who desperately try to force things to be better, and to improve the condition of man through the power of the state, have routinely created the worst societies throughout history.

Regardless, relying on the meaningless and increasingly blurred liberal/conservative dichotomy is a pretty sure sign of superficial understanding: they just don't stand for anything tangible anymore. Libertarians are the people who propose the most radical change from how things are currently managed, yet they are frequently called conservatives by 'liberals' who are far more conservative than they are (you can only see this if you understand what conservatism actually means, not how it is used by the inanities that shape contemporary political discourse).
Why are you sorry to say? That's spot on. BAM! :cheers:

[OldSkoolball#52]

Top 1% have everything? Why? How bout we collectively kill the Top 1% and take back the wealth? If you don't want that to happen, create a fairer system where we ALL benefit. Or we'll just have a revolution.


Why are you obsesed with wealth?

If you won 1 billion in the lottery today, would you split it equally among every American?


No. You wouldnt, not in a million years.

You are a hypocrite, and a fhaggot with too much time on his hands, desparately seeking an identity fighting imaginary bad guys (conservatives) and thats how you delude yourself into thinking your life has more significance than being an average, generic, boring, mediocre, unfunny, not handsome man FHAGGOT.


Go find 99 strangers to stand around and kill the 1% of the group that is made up by you loser.