Chris Webber talks shit about Gasol

[SpecialQue]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-chris-webber-blasts-pau-gasol-says-hes-not-elite/2013/11/06/


Chris Webber ✔ @realchriswebber

No he's not a elite player- elite players get- Buckets-assist -rebounds 10 pts- 8 Rebs- no offensive boards- you are not a elite big man!

I am no longer a fan of Chris Webber. :coleman:

[Eric Cartman]

Brotha isn't lying.

[TheMarkMadsen]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-chris-webber-blasts-pau-gasol-says-hes-not-elite/2013/11/06/



I am no longer a fan of Chris Webber. :coleman:


Well he's right. Gasol has been awful so far, I know you're a big Gasol guy, but he looks done

[Ancient Legend]

He was for a bit, circa 2008-2010. Then got his big paycheck and dropped off.

[SpecialQue]

Well he's right. Gasol has been awful so far, I know you're a big Gasol guy, but he looks done

:(

[b1imtf]

Elite players know when to call a timeout

[Mr. Jabbar]

special i respect your pasion for gasol, but hes beyond the point of no return...lets keep the good memories and move on

[Beatlezz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrINFd_Mcg8

:(

[tmacattack33]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-chris-webber-blasts-pau-gasol-says-hes-not-elite/2013/11/06/



I am no longer a fan of Chris Webber. :coleman:

LOL.

I am now an even bigger fan of C-Webb.

What kind of analysts do you like? People like Jon Gruden or Magic Johnson who have positive things to say about every player?

[Twiens]

That's not really fair, Pau was elite for a year or two. He's obviously washed up now...

[alexd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrINFd_Mcg8

:(
damn GP and Webber were soooo good :oldlol: :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-chris-webber-blasts-pau-gasol-says-hes-not-elite/2013/11/06/



I am no longer a fan of Chris Webber. :coleman:

he's right though

gasol hasnt been elite since 2010

[Burgz V2]

he speaks the truth but that doesn't mean Gasol isn't a good player, he just can't be considered "elite"

[robert de niro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrINFd_Mcg8

:(
this is gold :roll:

[9512]

Brotha be a racist. He can't stand the idea some one not black who is not a stiff.

In all seriousness, gasol was already in his late 20s (2008-2010) when ppl on this thread claimed him to be elite. Gasol has a shelf life too.

[FireDavidKahn]

Gasol is on the cusp of retiring, of course he isn't as good as he once was.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Gasol doesn't care about the Lakers anymore and his play reflects that.


It's the same reason Shaq stopped caring, Gasol stopped caring, even Bynum stopped caring and Dwight never started caring. The organization and the fans puts Kobe above all these guys even though they all have a greater impact on the game.

It's demoralizing. No matter what they do, Kobe gets credit and these guys eventually just get traded or attempted to be traded.


If you were on a team putting in work and there was another guy who got to play as selfishly and counterproductively as he wanted and always got the credit for your effort, you'd get sick of it too. Phil hated Kobe, Mike Brown hated Kobe, D'Antoni hates Kobe. All the bigmen hate Kobe.

Dude is lucky dude was there when talented people wanted to come and be part of the LAKERS. But now it's just the LA Kobe's and nobody wants to be there. Real talk.

[JellyBean]

I gotta agree with C-Webb.Gasol is not an elite player. This is his moment to shine and he is blowing it.

[OldSkoolball#52]

I gotta agree with C-Webb.Gasol is not an elite player. This is his moment to shine and he is blowing it.


Why Shine? The Lakers organization tried to get rid of him after he brought them 2 championships and the fans scapegoat him for everything that bad happens, even when its usually Kobe's fault.

Dude honestly has no reason to GAF about the Lakers whatsoever. I don't blame him for mailing it in.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Gasol doesn't care about the Lakers anymore and his play reflects that.


It's the same reason Shaq stopped caring, Gasol stopped caring, even Bynum stopped caring and Dwight never started caring. The organization and the fans puts Kobe above all these guys even though they all have a greater impact on the game.

It's demoralizing. No matter what they do, Kobe gets credit and these guys eventually just get traded or attempted to be traded.


If you were on a team putting in work and there was another guy who got to play as selfishly and counterproductively as he wanted and always got the credit for your effort, you'd get sick of it too. Phil hated Kobe, Mike Brown hated Kobe, D'Antoni hates Kobe. All the bigmen hate Kobe.

Dude is lucky dude was there when talented people wanted to come and be part of the LAKERS. But now it's just the LA Kobe's and nobody wants to be there. Real talk.

You are obsessed with Kobe

You just wrote an essay to explain how Gasols struggles are Kobes fault.

Kobe isn't even playing, do people see how Kobe haters will criticize him no matter what he does?

[OldSkoolball#52]

You are obsessed with Kobe

You just wrote an essay to explain how Gasols struggles are Kobes fault.

Kobe isn't even playing, do people see how Kobe haters will criticize him no matter what he does?


Kobes become a cancer

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobes become a cancer


Was that before or after the 7 finals, 5 rings and 2 FMVPS?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Was that before or after the 7 finals, 5 rings and 2 FMVPS?



Robert Horry got more rings brah

[Brokenbeat]

Kobes become a cancer

You're showing your love for another man again, lol. Just let it go.

[OldSkoolball#52]

You're showing your love for another man again, lol. Just let it go.


Me? I'm being honest on a basketball forum about how this dude has become a detriment to his basketball organization and nobody ever calls him on it.


You and these other dudes are the ones sprinting in here to defend him over the internet.


You may want to take a moment and ask yourself why. Unless you're afraid to find out the answer.


:confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Robert Horry got more rings brah

Did he win all those rings as an ALL NBA player?

An before you think you got me and go to google..Kobe was all NBA 2nd team in 99-00

[Brokenbeat]

Me? I'm being honest on a basketball forum about how this dude has become a detriment to his basketball organization and nobody ever calls him on it.


You and these other dudes are the ones sprinting in here to defend him over the internet.


You may want to take a moment and ask yourself why. Unless you're afraid to find out the answer.


:confusedshrug:

I'm not sprinting to defend anyone. This has nothing to do with Kobe, yet you can't keep the man's name out of your mouth. 90% of your posts have something to do with him. That's probably more than the stans post, and yet, you'll claim you're not a fan. So what is it then? Why the obsession? Seriously, have a seat on my couch. I think there's a little more to this than you're letting on. :banana:

[talkingconch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrINFd_Mcg8

:(
rofl i was gonna post this

[TheMarkMadsen]

Me? I'm being honest on a basketball forum about how this dude has become a detriment to his basketball organization and nobody ever calls him on it.


You and these other dudes are the ones sprinting in here to defend him over the internet.


You may want to take a moment and ask yourself why. Unless you're afraid to find out the answer.


:confusedshrug:

Dude you were in this thread which is about Pau Gasol posting about Kobe when NOBODY had brought him up.

You're in EVERY thread bashing Kobe, desperately trying to get attention and throwing out classic "bait" lines hoping a Fan of Kobe such as myself, will respond.

You go around every thread spouting Kobes name, BEGGING for attention, example you posted a second essay about Kobe in this thread after nobody responded to your first troll attempt.

You basically beg Kobe fans to respond to you and when they finally do you act like it isn't the response you wanted "like omgz guys why are you defending Kobe what did i do :confusedshrug: "

You know exactly what you're doing. Your like that 10 year old boy in grade school who makes fun of the girl he likes because you're socially awkward and know no other way of getting attention

[OldSkoolball#52]

Dude you were in this thread which is about Pau Gasol posting about Kobe when NOBODY had brought him up.

You're in EVERY thread bashing Kobe, desperately trying to get attention and throwing out classic "bait" lines hoping a Fan of Kobe such as myself, will respond.

You go around every thread spouting Kobes name, BEGGING for attention, example you posted a second essay about Kobe in this thread after nobody responded to your first troll attempt.

You basically beg Kobe fans to respond to you and when they finally do you act like it isn't the response you wanted "like omgz guys why are you defending Kobe what did i do :confusedshrug: "

You know exactly what you're doing. Your like that 10 year old boy in grade school who makes fun of the girl he likes because you're socially awkward and know no other way of getting attention



http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/-horry2-637549.jpg


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w62/Suprchrg96/Fisher-Kobe5Rings.jpg


u maddddd




lol and if you factor in that kobe always needed fisher to bail out his historicall unclutch playoff hero bricks, Kobe should probably only count half of his rings. And then when you factor in Shaq's dominance and Gasol's more important contributions, Kobe was really responsible for probably less than one "ring" worth of championship play. Dude is a chucking glory hogger.


You know it and I know it

[Brokenbeat]

Dude you were in this thread which is about Pau Gasol posting about Kobe when NOBODY had brought him up.

You're in EVERY thread bashing Kobe, desperately trying to get attention and throwing out classic "bait" lines hoping a Fan of Kobe such as myself, will respond.

You go around every thread spouting Kobes name, BEGGING for attention, example you posted a second essay about Kobe in this thread after nobody responded to your first troll attempt.

You basically beg Kobe fans to respond to you and when they finally do you act like it isn't the response you wanted "like omgz guys why are you defending Kobe what did i do :confusedshrug: "

You know exactly what you're doing. Your like that 10 year old boy in grade school who makes fun of the girl he likes because you're socially awkward and know no other way of getting attention

He's a Republican too (which lends itself to my theory). The poor guy can't let himself be comfortable with fact that he's attracted to another man, so he lashes out at him instead.

"hey everybody, this is how much i DONT like this man"

Please promise me you'll learn to love yourself someday Oldskoolball#52 :(

[Brokenbeat]

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/-horry2-637549.jpg


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w62/Suprchrg96/Fisher-Kobe5Rings.jpg


u maddddd




lol and if you factor in that kobe always needed fisher to bail out his historicall unclutch playoff hero bricks, Kobe should probably only count half of his rings. And then when you factor in Shaq's dominance and Gasol's more important contributions, Kobe was really responsible for probably less than one "ring" worth of championship play. Dude is a chucking glory hogger.


You know it and I know it


You're doing it again. :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm

[SpecialQue]

Please don't quote mentally retarded Kobe-haters. This thread is about Gasol, not someone who's not even playing at the moment. Don't let this shit flinging chimp derail this thread any further.

[OldSkoolball#52]

He's a Republican too (which lends itself to my theory). The poor guy can't let himself be comfortable with fact that he's attracted to another man, so he lashes out at him instead.

"hey everybody, this is how much i DONT like this man"

Please promise me you'll learn to love yourself someday Oldskoolball#52 :(



http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000800763/polls_clinton_laughing_4556_580243_answer_1_xlarge .jpeg

[Brokenbeat]

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000800763/polls_clinton_laughing_4556_580243_answer_1_xlarge .jpeg

http://www.serkancetinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kobe-bryant.jpg

[AintNoSunshine]

Elite players know when to call a timeout
:sleeping

[Kobe 4 The Win]

special i respect your pasion for gasol, but hes beyond the point of no return...lets keep the good memories and move on

I hope you are wrong. I'm a big Pau Gasol supporter myself. I have to admit that I'm a little disappointed so far. I was expecting him to come out aggressive this year now that Blight Howard is gone. Gasol is playing center now where he belongs, he doesn't have to share the ball with Kobe or D12, lets go Spaniard.

[SyRyanYang]

I see a new "pauk style" essay in the making here.
Keep it up oldschoolballer

[BallsOut]

Why Shine? The Lakers organization tried to get rid of him after he brought them 2 championships and the fans scapegoat him for everything that bad happens, even when its usually Kobe's fault.

Dude honestly has no reason to GAF about the Lakers whatsoever. I don't blame him for mailing it in.

Why shine? Because Gasol is in a contract year dumbass. He's not just auditioning for the Lakers, he doing it for the other 29 teams watching him.

Get off Kobe's nuts. This thread ain't even about him. :biggums:

[Funnyfuka]

That's not really fair, Pau was elite for a year or two. He's obviously washed up now...
don t think he s washed up, just think he doesnt give a **** anymore.

[Funnyfuka]

Gasol doesn't care about the Lakers anymore and his play reflects that.


It's the same reason Shaq stopped caring, Gasol stopped caring, even Bynum stopped caring and Dwight never started caring. The organization and the fans puts Kobe above all these guys even though they all have a greater impact on the game.

It's demoralizing. No matter what they do, Kobe gets credit and these guys eventually just get traded or attempted to be traded.


If you were on a team putting in work and there was another guy who got to play as selfishly and counterproductively as he wanted and always got the credit for your effort, you'd get sick of it too. Phil hated Kobe, Mike Brown hated Kobe, D'Antoni hates Kobe. All the bigmen hate Kobe.

Dude is lucky dude was there when talented people wanted to come and be part of the LAKERS. But now it's just the LA Kobe's and nobody wants to be there. Real talk.end of thread.

[Funnyfuka]

Why shine? Because Gasol is in a contract year dumbass. He's not just auditioning for the Lakers, he doing it for the other 29 teams watching him.

Get off Kobe's nuts. This thread ain't even about him. :biggums:
mmmh wouldnt be surprised if gasol retires instead. It s been like 3 years now he hasnt played good.

[Pointguard]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-chris-webber-blasts-pau-gasol-says-hes-not-elite/2013/11/06/

I am no longer a fan of Chris Webber. :coleman:
What do you think he is? If he played against David Lee, who isn't considered elite, it wouldn't surprise me if Lee doubled his points, rebounds and assist and made it look easy. I would expect Kevin Love and Dwight Howard to actually do it. He's not elite.

[oh the horror]

Gasol doesn't care about the Lakers anymore and his play reflects that.


It's the same reason Shaq stopped caring, Gasol stopped caring, even Bynum stopped caring and Dwight never started caring. The organization and the fans puts Kobe above all these guys even though they all have a greater impact on the game.

It's demoralizing. No matter what they do, Kobe gets credit and these guys eventually just get traded or attempted to be traded.


If you were on a team putting in work and there was another guy who got to play as selfishly and counterproductively as he wanted and always got the credit for your effort, you'd get sick of it too. Phil hated Kobe, Mike Brown hated Kobe, D'Antoni hates Kobe. All the bigmen hate Kobe.

Dude is lucky dude was there when talented people wanted to come and be part of the LAKERS. But now it's just the LA Kobe's and nobody wants to be there. Real talk.



Uh huh.



Now for the reality of the situation:

Gasol has constantly made it known that he wants to be with the Lakers. This myth some of you seem to keep trying on for size that he "doesn't care" because Kobe gets all the credit simply isn't true.


The truth is, he's a big, with ailing knees and miles on his body. Gasol is what? 32-33? He's slowing down. So I'm unsure what people expected of him at this point. He isn't the player that can carry a team anymore.


He'd be a good third option for a team at the right price. Nothing more.


Not to mention the system of play doesn't fit his style of ball.

[cos88]

cwebb is right, at this point pau isn't elite. i think he still has something in the tank, maybe a fresh start with a new team would benefit him

[Twiens]

don t think he s washed up, just think he doesnt give a **** anymore.

Meh he's slow as **** these days, doesn't have the legs anymore

[ILLsmak]

Pau is the type of dude who plays well when he's on a team with good chemistry and potential to win. LA had good chemistry when they were winning rings. The team he was on in Memphis did, too.

I think that he is not the type of player to demand the ball or force things. He's also not an elite rebounder or defender, so basically if he's not getting the right touches and people aren't moving the way they should on offense, he's not going to get many points or assists. It's hard for bigs to manufacture those things because they have to get the ball in certain spots with the floor set up a certain way.

I dunno if Pau is elite, it depends on how you define it. Is he a superstar? Was he ever? Probably not, but he's definitely an all-star talent and I think he still is.

-Smak

[MJ(Mean John)]

Someone is jelly that Gasol got some Rings to go along with a HOF career...

[Out_In_Utah]

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-chris-webber-blasts-pau-gasol-says-hes-not-elite/2013/11/06/



I am no longer a fan of Chris Webber. :coleman:

He isn't elite though. Elite = Superstar, which there are only a few of in the league. It is a category above all star. LeBron, Durant, and CP3 are the only truly elite players right now IMO, and an argument could be made for maybe 2-3 more players max.

[Indian guy]

He's washed up. NBATV basically had a marathon of classic games of dynasties all summer and I binged on a bunch of Laker games from 08-10. Current Gasol moves nothing like that Gasol, who was quick and mobile as hell. And I'm assuming those grueling B2B2B Finals runs must have been hell for his body, because 33 is not that old, but GOD does he look old out there. 11-12 was his last All Star level season.

[BallsOut]

And what does Gasol do after that? Goes and lays an egg against the Rockets. :facepalm

[magnax1]

He isn't elite though. Elite = Superstar, which there are only a few of in the league. It is a category above all star. LeBron, Durant, and CP3 are the only truly elite players right now IMO, and an argument could be made for maybe 2-3 more players max.
Even if you take it to mean he's not all star caliber Webber wouldn't be wrong. Hes a joke on defense and doesn't add much on offense now most of the time.

[chazzy]

He has bad knees and hamstrings and hes older now. There was all this hope that he would now get his paint touches back, but he's still taking jumpers and even more 3s it seems

[Levity]

Pau Gasol just cant play in a MDA uptempo offense. The second half of yesterdays game, all gasol was doing was running back and forth on defense and offense, setting high picks but rarely touching the ball. and when he did touch the ball, it was at the top of the key for a 20 footer.

if pau is to be effective, they need to implement him into a half court offense where he can get the ball on the block. if they dont want to do that, then whats the point of having him on the team. just trade him if all they want him to do is set high screens and rebound. he looks miserable out there on offense.