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CavaliersFTW
11-06-2013, 08:59 PM
Just got a notification today that I will no longer be notified when people comment on my Youtube channel because of some dumbass new "Google+" modification. These types of random annoying, unavoidable, and unwelcomed changes have been going on the past 6 months or so, 'Google +' has been f*cking up the way Youtube operates and is making the management of my channel more and more difficult :mad: :mad: :mad: anybody else pissed and confused with what is going on or is it just me!?

9erempiree
11-06-2013, 09:01 PM
Google is like big brother now. I was trying to sign up for Linkedin and they tried to import all my contacts to link me with them.

There is no getting around it. YT and Google are the same crap so be careful what videos you watch or like because it will show up on your YT profile. I wouldn't be surprised that it shows in other places too.

There is no more hiding. I find that I need multiple email addresses to filter out the crap that's going on.

andgar923
11-06-2013, 09:02 PM
I agree.

I kept getting pop ups that wouldn't go away. It's like they're FORCING you to join.

OldSkoolball#52
11-06-2013, 09:03 PM
I agree Google is gettin way too all up in my shit.

Gonna start avoiding anything Google related as much as I can. Youtube is really the only thing that makes it hard to avoid google altogether for me. But we'll see.

9erempiree
11-06-2013, 09:06 PM
I never use Gmail for these purposes. Facebook has made the internet become real life and Google is trying to follow suit. I can't even do certain things until I sign into my YT account. In order to do that I have sign into my Google account.

CavaliersFTW
11-06-2013, 09:08 PM
All I had to do up until today was visit my Youtube Inbox to see what activity was done on my channel. This helps me prevent spam activity etc - because I catch it and remove it. It also helps me interact with my subscribers and people who leave comments. I'm very PRO-ACTIVE with my YT channel. But if you note the orange box that just popped up:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QIoEa-XPS4c/UnrnHVOJRoI/AAAAAAAAE1A/g9IsEBi4r-4/s800/google%2520plus%2520bullshit2.jpg

Now basically what does that even mean? Does it mean I now have no f*cking way of knowing who is leaving what kind of comments, when, and where on my channel!? This is their 'explanation':
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OhD3gUpy0tg/UnrnHrlko4I/AAAAAAAAE1E/wr9wIMSiiho/s800/google%2520plus%2520bullshit.jpg

:wtf: I just want to log in to YOUTUBE to manage my YOUTUBE sh*t - not GOOGLE SH8THOLE PLUS :mad: :mad: :mad:

9erempiree
11-06-2013, 09:13 PM
I gave up a long time ago. I comment on YT videos and got people mad that they will have a conversation with me on it. :oldlol:

I gave all that up when my YT inbox doesn't notify me anymore. I have noticed this and stopped commenting.

andgar923
11-06-2013, 09:20 PM
Hate that you can't access pms or comments as well. Up until last week we couldn't even edit our username. You're FORCED to go to google plus account to make some changes.

They're shoving their services down our throats.

highwhey
11-06-2013, 09:24 PM
A couple days ago I was browsing the news online and I noticed an article "Google Plus sees a membership increase of 57%" :oldlol: I knew they had somehow inorganically increased their members.

CavaliersFTW
11-06-2013, 09:25 PM
Hate that you can't access pms or comments as well. Up until last week we couldn't even edit our username. You're FORCED to go to google plus account to make some changes.

They're shoving their services down our throats.
What are the other video uploading options available at the moment? I'm seriously considering moving the Wilt Chamberlain Archive to a new video upload service. One that is far less intrusive and annoying even if I have to re-upload everything by scratch and loose all my subscribers. Google plus is pissing me off that much that I don't want Youtube anymore. I keep my online basketball video channel SEPARATE from the rest of my online activity. I don't want google plus mixing everything together. I've been fighting with it to 'change to my (real life) name' from WCA ever since that dumb update came into existence too. Google is trying to link-up everything.

9erempiree
11-06-2013, 09:27 PM
I have 2 YT accounts so that means I have 2 Gmail accounts. I was trying to join LinkedIN with my fake account and proceeded to use it. Then all of a sudden it used my real account with my contacts.

I was like WTF!

CavaliersFTW
11-06-2013, 09:29 PM
I have 2 YT accounts so that means I have 2 Gmail accounts. I was trying to join LinkedIN with my fake account and proceeded to use it. Then all of a sudden it used my real account with my contacts.

I was like WTF!
Yeah I have 2 Gmail/Youtube accounts too. One for personal use, the other is my Wilt Chamberlain Archive channel. But even the one for personal use I don't want connected with my name. I want NONE of it connected with my name. Google seems to think my life should be connected and unified for everyone to see publicly. Picasa has also become f*cked up in this tangled mess of multiple accounts being unified together.

miller-time
11-06-2013, 09:43 PM
:wtf: I just want to log in to YOUTUBE to manage my YOUTUBE sh*t - not GOOGLE SH8THOLE PLUS :mad: :mad: :mad:

I ended up making a bogus gmail account. I don't want my YouTube and gmail/Google+ (not that I used +) anywhere near each other.

ace23
11-06-2013, 09:44 PM
I don't know when they did this, but they recently automatically signed you into the gmail account that was connected to your Youtube account whenever you signed into Youtube. Shit is annoying.

Also, I don't like the way the comments are arranged right now.

Rake2204
11-06-2013, 09:44 PM
Just got a notification today that I will no longer be notified when people comment on my Youtube channel because of some dumbass new "Google+" modification. These types of random annoying, unavoidable, and unwelcomed changes have been going on the past 6 months or so, 'Google +' has been f*cking up the way Youtube operates and is making the management of my channel more and more difficult :mad: :mad: :mad: anybody else pissed and confused with what is going on or is it just me!?Glad to see this topic pop up here. I was just trying to wade through the same mess. Where exactly will I see my comment notifications now? I just want to handle my YouTube business from YouTube, not through an intermediary.

CavaliersFTW
11-06-2013, 10:08 PM
Looks like other people are getting pissed too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHANsFt87FA

Seriously guys do any of you know of an alternative to the service formerly known as 'Youtube' (now totally absorbed and trashed by Google+)

What about Vimeo? Or is that linked up to a bunch of sh*t too? I'm done with Google+/'Youtube'. The Wilt Chamberlain Archive needs a new home.

9erempiree
11-06-2013, 10:14 PM
What happen to YT? Some viewers are saying that the ads don't pop up anymore and they are reluctant to make videos because they are afraid they won't get paid.

Rose
11-06-2013, 10:18 PM
Looks like other people are getting pissed too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHANsFt87FA

Seriously guys do any of you know of an alternative to the service formerly known as 'Youtube' (now totally absorbed and trashed by Google+)

What about Vimeo? Or is that linked up to a bunch of sh*t too? I'm done with Google+/'Youtube'. The Wilt Chamberlain Archive needs a new home.
Vimeo's not linked to anything, but you might have to pay for membership depending on the size of the videos.

Rake2204
11-07-2013, 12:28 AM
So honestly, where do I get my comment notifications now?

Edit: Are top comments now gone as well?

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 12:44 AM
Try your hardest to say no on everything they try to forced-feed you.
None of it, and I mean none is a 'yes' or 'no' option. The notifications are just that, notifications. Not options. It's a courteous '**** you we changed your shit without giving you any say in the matter... deal with it' message.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 12:45 AM
So honestly, where do I get my comment notifications now?

Edit: Are top comments now gone as well?
I still have no clue. If you figure it out post it here, if I figure it out soon I'll post it here. But I am too pissed to dive into it right now.

Rake2204
11-07-2013, 12:57 AM
I still have no clue. If you figure it out post it here, if I figure it out soon I'll post it here. But I am too pissed to dive into it right now.Yeah, I may try to wade into it at some point. I just don't exactly know what my Google+ even is.

Numero 10
11-07-2013, 01:05 AM
i was able to delete the google plus page they created for me and still keep my regular yt channel, but can't comment anymore. doesn't bother me that much, i just don't want a crappy google plus page.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 01:09 AM
i was able to delete the google plus page they created for me and still keep my regular yt channel, but can't comment anymore. doesn't bother me that much, i just don't want a crappy google plus page.
I am actively involved in my YT channel so comments for me are a part of the reason I have it. I'm considering activating a Vimeo at this point - so I can begin the slow process of migrating all my Youtube videos to the Vimeo. Google has ruined Youtube, straight up ruined it. I hate google now.

Rake2204
11-07-2013, 01:15 AM
If I change my settings so I receive an email each time there's a new comment, maybe that way I can work around having to go to Google+.

KingBeasley08
11-07-2013, 01:36 AM
Luckily my gmail account from when I was like 13 is tied to youtube so I don't use that one anymore but I agree with OP. I think it made me a Google +. I don't know shit about it

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-07-2013, 02:09 AM
Comments are now sent to your Email address as notifications. Google + is a joke.

andgar923
11-07-2013, 02:40 AM
Vimeo in general is better.

Better quality videos, no buffering and shitty playback. YouTube has tons of features, but those features is what f*cks up the video playback.

My main argument against making Vimeo one's main video sharing service, is the lack of exposure. YouTube demolishes Vimeo and every video service when it comes to exposure.

I have a love hate relationship with YouTube.

I love the content.

I hate everything else.

Rake2204
11-07-2013, 10:31 AM
Do I have to approve comments now as well?

InspiredLebowski
11-07-2013, 10:35 AM
Google's gong to kill Youtube with this stuff.

Rake2204
11-07-2013, 11:25 AM
I still had a comment notification in my YouTube inbox this morning. I wonder what it means when it says most notifications will not go through Google+. Which ones won't?

tomtucker
11-07-2013, 02:16 PM
i have given up on commenting on youtube videos..........perhaps it

bdreason
11-07-2013, 03:10 PM
Google owns Youtube and wants Google+ to compete with Facebook... so they are using Youtube as leverage to force you to join Google+.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 04:39 PM
Google owns Youtube and wants Google+ to compete with Facebook... so they are using Youtube as leverage to force you to join Google+.
Yeah, only problem is there are millions of people like me who haven't been using Youtube as some personalized dumping ground for uploads of my f*cking pets and family. I anonymously run my channel dedicated to a very specific niche topic. I don't want to craft a f*cking google plus page about Wilt Chamberlain-era basketball, I just wanted Youtube - Google plus didn't exist when I went down this road and if it did I would have never even got started. I'm about to setup a Vimeo account tonight and begin the long process of uploading WCA videos to a new home. Once it's complete - bye bye Google+. I won't be marched into the google+ gas chamber like some 'big brother' corporations mindless b*tch.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-07-2013, 04:45 PM
I had to make an extra account where my personal information (primary email) wasn't linked to my YT account. Otherwise, google plus isn't that bad. I don't even use it. :confusedshrug:

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 04:49 PM
I had to make an extra account where my personal information (primary email) wasn't linked to my YT account. Otherwise, google plus isn't that bad. I don't even use it. :confusedshrug:
Some of us don't have time to f*ck around with crafting multiple full-blown 'profiles' in the name of Google. They are slowly disabling all of the simple Youtube functions in place of Google plus functions, which require you to go to your google plus page. Eventually - you will ONLY have a google plus page and there will be no such thing as that classic Youtube layout. The changes are all forcefully happening as we speak.

9erempiree
11-07-2013, 04:56 PM
I admire the OP for standing up against YT but I don't see his efforts lasting.

YT allows viewership to come to your channel. I don't know how Vimeo can compete with YT. When it comes down to it, you want people to watch your videos and I don't think Vimeo will be that source for views.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-07-2013, 04:58 PM
Some of us don't have time to f*ck around with crafting multiple full-blown 'profiles' in the name of Google. They are slowly disabling all of the simple Youtube functions in place of Google plus functions, which require you to go to your google plus page. Eventually - you will ONLY have a google plus page and there will be no such thing as that classic Youtube layout. The changes are all forcefully happening as we speak.

It literally takes you a few seconds - but yeah, the old days of YT are done. After the "1 channel" BS they pulled, you knew google was gonna start wreaking havoc.

My only issue with vimeo is exposure. Not enough people and/or NBA videos there.


I admire the OP for standing up against YT but I don't see his efforts lasting.

YT allows viewership to come to your channel. I don't know how Vimeo can compete with YT. When it comes down to it, you want people to watch your videos and I don't think Vimeo will be that source for views.

Yep

Fresh Kid
11-07-2013, 05:02 PM
youtube iz phucking up period:facepalm I mean damn how many timez we have to watch these damn ads??::biggums: its really annoyin':rolleyes:

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 05:02 PM
I admire the OP for standing up against YT but I don't see his efforts lasting.

YT allows viewership to come to your channel. I don't know how Vimeo can compete with YT. When it comes down to it, you want people to watch your videos and I don't think Vimeo will be that source for views.
I don't make money on my Youtube channel - and I post most all my videos myself to people I interact with through message boards, reddit, etc. I couldn't care less about mass exposure. I'd rather be a diamond in the rough with a simple Vimeo account than some mindless sheep trying to manage 3 google plus profiles that I'm now being prompted for every time I try to upload a simple video to Youtube. I hate managing facebook as it is, for personal use, why the **** do I want a handful of other social networking nonsense? I may be an outlier here but I'm starting to get really annoyed with how involved and persistant social media 'profiles' are becoming. Managing that crap is all work IMO, and my time isn't free.

9erempiree
11-07-2013, 05:06 PM
I don't make money on my Youtube channel - and I post most all my videos myself to people I interact with through message boards, reddit, etc. I couldn't care less about mass exposure. I'd rather be a diamond in the rough with a simple Vimeo account than some mindless sheep trying to manage 3 google plus profiles that I'm now being prompted for every time I try to upload a simple video to Youtube.

To each his own but good luck and keep those vids coming. I don't know much about Vimeo but can you comment and chat on the site.

I know a big thing for me was the ability to comment with other people on YT and I don't have a channel.

9erempiree
11-07-2013, 05:12 PM
I had to make an extra account where my personal information (primary email) wasn't linked to my YT account. Otherwise, google plus isn't that bad. I don't even use it. :confusedshrug:

I agree. Although I have nothing to hide but I find it sad that because of Google +, people will know what videos you liked and where you commented.

I will give you a good example, this whole week I was doing job interviews and one of the recruiters had a Google + page, after googling her. It then redirected me to her YT page and I got to screen my recruiter and see what videos she was watching...:oldlol:

After digging through her YT profile, I came to the interview confident and mentioned some things that she was interested in because of her viewing habits.

The funny thing is that people are oblivious to how YT works nor do they care. I have already made all my LIKES and Favorites as private. Some people don't even know YT works in certain ways where the videos you watch and like are open to others to see. Even your playlist.



It's pretty scary.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 05:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUL_UK4hVgk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuLQjl55LZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JijZIxwOf6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFi_2rhgs7I

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 06:03 PM
You guys who are content with these changes are all coming from a non-creator perspective. Creators of Youtube channels have an entirely different routine when going about their 'Youtube' business. We don't leave a comment and disappear. We upload videos and keep tabs on everything being said within the videos. Keeping track of comments under this new interface has now become next to impossible. Comments and interactivity with subscribers are part of what drives the creator. We also have to manage trolling, spam, and other unwanted activity on our videos. I'd personally rather have 10 comments in a week that I can keep track of through notifications on say, the less popular but much more straightforward Vimeo platform, than have 100 comments in an hour that I am literally not notified about.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 06:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rxl4Iyy.jpg

You also now cannot delete google plus w/o completely deleting your youtube channel.

BRabbiT
11-07-2013, 06:22 PM
Try your hardest to say no on everything they try to forced-feed you.


+1

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 06:24 PM
+1
As I said, saying no is not an option. There are no options. All changes are mandatory.

9erempiree
11-07-2013, 06:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rxl4Iyy.jpg

You also now cannot delete google plus w/o completely deleting your youtube channel.

Amazing what they are doing. :facepalm

This is forcing us to do things, at it's finest. Deleting Google + means deleting YT. :facepalm

ace23
11-07-2013, 06:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUL_UK4hVgk
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude was preaching tho hahaha.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 06:34 PM
You can try playing around it. Redirect all commenters to your blog away from YT and other Google products and let them talk there, or something similar.
I've already figured out what I'm going to do. Make all my videos on Youtube private, disable all comments, and leave 1 post on my google+ profile that says something along the lines of "Wilt Chamberlain Archive has now moved to (_New Provider_) (with a link), a video sharing provider that hasn't been ruined by pieces of sh*t from Google"

No one will be able to see my old Youtube uploads or any of their old comments. And I won't technically delete my channel, so if an emergency happens (like if the new provider ****s up bad, or if Google changes their mind and stops being so shitty) I can re-activate my old YT videos. Also, nobody can pretend to be me if my channel is still 'active'.

9erempiree
11-07-2013, 06:38 PM
Why the F is OP messing around with YT.

Get your own damn website and start posting videos on it. Let YT re-route things to your site.

Put your site's address on a watermark in your videos.

You can become a Wilt historian. Stop ****king around. Don't let anyone tell you what or when you can do it.

Make it happen.

CavaliersFTW
11-07-2013, 07:09 PM
Why the F is OP messing around with YT.

Get your own damn website and start posting videos on it. Let YT re-route things to your site.

Put your site's address on a watermark in your videos.

You can become a Wilt historian. Stop ****king around. Don't let anyone tell you what or when you can do it.

Make it happen.
I'm not gonna let YT do anything. I'm going to leave YT and go to an entirely different provider, I'm pretty sure Vimeo is my best bet. YT was murdered by google+

Rake2204
11-08-2013, 12:58 PM
I'm still trying to figure out if I can make YouTube still function on a relatively normal level as an uploader. I'm balking at the Google+ morph (and hence haven't been able to see any comments on my videos for the past few days) but I may give it a shot, begrudgingly.

I am chagrined.

Sidenote, can other users still comment on my videos without me having fully transferred to Google+?

Rake2204
11-08-2013, 01:15 PM
No. You have to log in your G+ first to comment on YT.

Meh, I will miss the fun of YT comment posting but watching should be good enough.I appreciate the response. However, to clarify, I meant if I upload a video, can other people still comment on it even if the uploaded (me) has not fully crossed over to Google+?

gts
11-08-2013, 01:28 PM
You guys who are content with these changes are all coming from a non-creator perspective. Creators of Youtube channels have an entirely different routine when going about their 'Youtube' business. We don't leave a comment and disappear. We upload videos and keep tabs on everything being said within the videos. Keeping track of comments under this new interface has now become next to impossible. Comments and interactivity with subscribers are part of what drives the creator. We also have to manage trolling, spam, and other unwanted activity on our videos. I'd personally rather have 10 comments in a week that I can keep track of through notifications on say, the less popular but much more straightforward Vimeo platform, than have 100 comments in an hour that I am literally not notified about.

I get notified everytime someone makes a post on my google+ page

You might just need to learn how the new system works before you toss it all out.

Try creating a google plus community for your youtube channel. As the community owner you can moderate the posts just like in youtube, invite thise you want to be part of it, remove the trolls for good etc etc etc

Rake2204
11-08-2013, 03:02 PM
I get notified everytime someone makes a post on my google+ page

You might just need to learn how the new system works before you toss it all out.

Try creating a google plus community for your youtube channel. As the community owner you can moderate the posts just like in youtube, invite thise you want to be part of it, remove the trolls for good etc etc etcHow do you create a Google+ community?

gts
11-09-2013, 11:52 AM
How do you create a Google+ community?
From your G+ home screen go to the pull down menu and select communities then there's a create community button

CavaliersFTW
11-09-2013, 04:32 PM
From your G+ home screen go to the pull down menu and select communities then there's a create community button
Are you saying you won't receive updates from people outside your google plus community!? If so... :wtf: that defeats the whole purpose of easily connecting with and building new fanbases who just stumble across your videos, doesn't it?

kentatm
11-10-2013, 12:09 PM
I've been pissed at Google ever since they had YouTube try to force me to use my real name instead of my KentATM screen name that I set my page up with.

I don't want my real email and name attached to my YouTube account at all.

They need to f-ing give up with Google+. Its never going to be a thing and the more they try to force it the more people will hate it.

gts
11-10-2013, 12:59 PM
Are you saying you won't receive updates from people outside your google plus community!? If so... :wtf: that defeats the whole purpose of easily connecting with and building new fanbases who just stumble across your videos, doesn't it?No you can keep it an open forum where anyone can see/comment your posts and you'll be notified. or you can make it a private forum.

All sorts of ways you can build up your "fanbase" you can keep it private but do mass invites to the public so they have to join your community to see the vids.. that gives you the greatest control over things.

once you get used to working it You'll find it's an OK deal.

senelcoolidge
11-10-2013, 02:33 PM
They won't allow me to post remarks and they are constantly asking to change my YT name.

brantonli
11-10-2013, 02:35 PM
I've been pissed at Google ever since they had YouTube try to force me to use my real name instead of my KentATM screen name that I set my page up with.

I don't want my real email and name attached to my YouTube account at all.

They need to f-ing give up with Google+. Its never going to be a thing and the more they try to force it the more people will hate it.


I found this button that says 'disconnect my Youtube account from google+' and immediately clicked on it. IT gave me my old youtube account name back, but I can't remember how I found the button now. IT was somwhere through Youtube though, not through google+