Anthony Davis> Dwight Howard

[Haks]

Better than howards ever been

[HeyIt'sMe]

Howard averaged 23 and 14 not that long ago, how soon people forget. It's a shame people think the version of Howard we're seeing now is his prime.

[TheReal Kendall]

Howard averaged 23 and 14 not that long ago, how soon people forget. It's a shame people think the version of Howard we're seeing now is his prime.

I honestly feel like he's past his prime.

He hasn't improved any

[Jameerthefear]

I honestly feel like he's past his prime.

He hasn't improved any
probably. he'll never be that good again.

[b1imtf]

32/12/3/6 :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

Howard averaged 23 and 14 not that long ago, how soon people forget. It's a shame people think the version of Howard we're seeing now is his prime.

Put Anthony Davis on those Magic teams with that system SVG designed to inflate Howard's stats, he puts up 28, 15, 7, and 4.

[konex]

Dwight has NEVER been anywhere as good as this kid offensively and their defense is comparable IMO. I'd definitely take him over any version of Dwight

[aj1987]

Put Anthony Davis on those Magic teams with that system SVG designed to inflate Howard's stats, he puts up 28, 15, 7, and 4.
Hakeem would've probably put up 35/20/10/7, right? :facepalm

[LAZERUSS]

Dwight has NEVER been anywhere as good as this kid offensively and their defense is comparable IMO. I'd definitely take him over any version of Dwight

Let's not get carried away here. He came into tonight's Laker game with a 21 ppg 11 rpg, .429 FG% season.

[Eric Cartman]

We can debate of previous versions of Dwight vs Davis all we want which is ridiculous. Why live in the past tho?

'13 Davis > '13 Howard

[Jameerthefear]

Dwight has NEVER been anywhere as good as this kid offensively and their defense is comparable IMO. I'd definitely take him over any version of Dwight
lol. nah. this dwight sucks but the one on the magic certainly didn't.

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

Hakeem would've probably put up 35/20/10/7, right? :facepalm

Rules were different back in his prime.
Learn the history of the game bro, or have you been watching since you turned 12 three years ago?

[Heavincent]

Davis is a ****ing animal. Unlike Dwight, he's actually skilled offensively and doesn't choke games away with laughably bad FT shooting, and he's every bit as good as Dwight on defense.

[secund2nun]

I am not sure if Davis is better than Howard right now, but he will be. Davis is gonna be insane. He is this generation's Tim Duncan imo.

[aj1987]

Rules were different back in his prime.
Learn the history of the game bro, or have you been watching since you turned 12 three years ago?
You just said Davis would average 28/15/7/4 and you're calling me a 12 year old? Do you know just how stupid that sounds?

[Johnny Jones]

Let's not get carried away here. He came into tonight's Laker game with a 21 ppg 11 rpg, .429 FG% season.
He was missing easy tipins that he made all the time last season.

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

You just said Davis would average 28/15/7/4 and you're calling me a 12 year old? Do you know just how stupid that sounds?

Put Anthony Davis on those Magic teams with a system designed to let him school in the post and then pass to a myriad of three point shooter who spread the floor for him, and be the only above average rebounder and defender on the team and he would absolutely put up monster stat lines like that.

But you obviously never watched the Magic pre 2011...

Also I said you were 12 three years ago when you started to watch basketball, because you are ignorant of the Magic teams from that time period.
12 + 3 = 15 bro.

[Johnny Jones]

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[Heavincent]

Let's not get carried away here. He came into tonight's Laker game with a 21 ppg 11 rpg, .429 FG% season.

He's shooting 92% from the line though, while Dwight is shooting 50% on 11 FT attempts a game. Dwight is not an efficient player. I don't know why some people act like he is.

[kurple]

there is no one i'd rather have in denver than Davis

[aj1987]

Put Anthony Davis on those Magic teams with a system designed to let him school in the post and then pass to a myriad of three point shooter who spread the floor for him, and be the only above average rebounder and defender on the team and he would absolutely put up monster stat lines like that.
So, once again, Hakeem who's about x10 the player that Davis is would average 35/20/10/7 on that Magic team, right?:facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

Put Anthony Davis on those Magic teams with a system designed to let him school in the post and then pass to a myriad of three point shooter who spread the floor for him, and be the only above average rebounder and defender on the team and he would absolutely put up monster stat lines like that.

But you obviously never watched the Magic pre 2011...

Also I said you were 12 three years ago when you started to watch basketball, because you are ignorant of the Magic teams from that time period.
12 + 3 = 15 bro.
he's not going to go from like 17 ppg to 28. and i know about the magic because i'm an actual magic fan.

[Horde of Temujin]

Hakeem would've probably put up 35/20/10/7, right? :facepalm

At least. Best centers in the L in late '00's were who...Bynum, Howard,Yao?

Dwight is the most overrated player ive ever witnessed

[noob cake]

Ehh it is true. Davis is probably > Dwight

[b1imtf]

Haks pls
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[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

So, once again, Hakeem who's about x10 the player that Davis is would average 35/20/10/7 on that Magic team, right?:facepalm

You realize Hakeem put up almost 28ppg on a team and in an era with less spacing because of less emphasis on three point shooting, right? Also he had to expend more energy on defense because, get this, he actually had to go against equally skilled offensive centers and not just protect the rim from drives.
Of course you don't because you are some dumb kid who doesn't know the history of the League.

Also, if Dwight put up 23 on those Magic teams, Davis puts up 20 easily.
Once he fills out his body and finishes off his offensive skillset, he'll put up 22-25 on any team, and more than that on team which features a low post threat surrounded by shooters.

[aj1987]

You realize Hakeem put up almost 28ppg on a team and in an era with less spacing because of less emphasis on three point shooting, right? Also he had to expend more energy on defense because, get this, he actually had to go against equally skilled offensive centers and not just protect the rim from drives.
Of course you don't because you are some dumb kid who doesn't know the history of the League.
Go back read my posts. :facepalm
Seriously. Go back and read my posts. You must definitely be 12. Pretty basic comprehension skills and quick on the insults.


Also, if Dwight put up 23 on those Magic teams, Davis puts up 20 easily.
Once he fills out his body and finishes off his offensive skillset, he'll put up 22-25 on any team, and more than that on team which features a low post threat surrounded by shooters.
You're thick! No shit he puts up 20. I'd say that he'll be a 25 PPG player pretty soon. 28? Don't think so.

[BoutPractice]

He has more potential, that's for sure. I think there's a decent chance he ends up better than Howard, and the best bigman in the league since Duncan. He certainly looks the part more than anyone else that's been drafted in the last 15 years or so, but many things could happen.

[HeyIt'sMe]

28, 15, 7, and 4? As in 28 PPG, 15 RPG, 7 assists per game, and 4 BPG? You do realize no one in history has averaged those combination of stats in a season, and you think a second year pro would? Lawl, thanks for the laugh. Davis is not a better rebounder than Howard at all, but he would average more than Dwight would, hah.

[LAZERUSS]

28, 15, 7, and 4? As in 28 PPG, 15 RPG, 7 assists per game, and 4 BPG? You do realize no one in history has averaged those combination of stats in a season, and you think a second year pro would? Lawl, thanks for the laugh. Davis is not a better rebounder than Howard at all, but he would average more than Dwight would, hah.

Well, we don't have Wilt's bpg in his 65-66 season, but most expert opinions at the time would have conservatively given him about 8+ bpg in that season...to go along with 33.5 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and 5.2 apg.

And in his 67-68 season, Chamberlain's numbers were 24.3 ppg, 23.8 rpg, 8.6 apg, and probably 8+ bpg. Or how about his 66-67 season... 24.1 ppg, 24.2 rpg, 7.8 apg, and probably 8+ bpg...as well as a .683 FG%.

[crisoner]

A lava lamp > Dwight Coward

[Nick Young]

Howard averaged 23 and 14 not that long ago, how soon people forget. It's a shame people think the version of Howard we're seeing now is his prime.
empty numbers on a bad team in a bad conference with bad bigmen that, despite its record, never had a chance in hell of winning a title. 2009, the fluke year that they made it, they were embarrassed in the finals, Dwights flaws were exposed, and any of the other Western Conference contenders would have done the same.

Orlando got lucky one year, Dwights reputation shot up to levels it never belonged and his game stopped improving and his work rate started going down after 2009. Conversely, his ego began to grow.

[wakencdukest]

I'd take Davis over Howard in a heartbeat.

[HeyIt'sMe]

empty numbers on a bad team in a bad conference with bad bigmen that, despite its record, never had a chance in hell of winning a title. 2009, the fluke year that they made it, they were embarrassed in the finals, Dwights flaws were exposed, and any of the other Western Conference contenders would have done the same.

Orlando got lucky one year, Dwights reputation shot up to levels it never belonged and his game stopped improving and his work rate started going down after 2009. Conversely, his ego began to grow.

You're an idiot. I don't even like Howard, he left my team high and dry, but people quickly forget how good he was before he injured his back. It's a shame, really.

[Nick Young]

You're an idiot. I don't even like Howard, he left my team high and dry, but people quickly forget how good he was before he injured his back. It's a shame, really.
He was a great defensive roleplayer. Somewhere along the way after 2009 he started thinking he was shaq and started demanding post ups. This is when he began to be shit. He never worked on improving his skills. His touch is bad. He flourished offensively due to SVG's system and being surrounded by 4 perimeter threats, not due to personal skill.

He has always been mentally weak which IMO is the worst part of his game.

[HeyIt'sMe]

He was a great defensive roleplayer. Somewhere along the way after 2009 he started thinking he was shaq and started demanding post ups. This is when he began to be shit. He never worked on improving his skills. His touch is bad. He flourished offensively due to SVG's system and being surrounded by 4 perimeter threats, not due to personal skill.

He has always been mentally weak which IMO is the worst part of his game.

lol @ defensive roleplayer - he isn't Tyson Chandler. You put someone like Noah and Chandler on those Magic teams, they aren't averaging anywhere close to Howard's offensive numbers. People think the Howard we've seen the past couple of seasons is the real Dwight Howard. The back injury has really affected his play. As someone who watched every minute of every game of Howard's career, his offensive skill has become underrated - he's not a hack on that end.

[Jameerthefear]

He was a great defensive roleplayer. Somewhere along the way after 2009 he started thinking he was shaq and started demanding post ups. This is when he began to be shit. He never worked on improving his skills. His touch is bad. He flourished offensively due to SVG's system and being surrounded by 4 perimeter threats, not due to personal skill.

He has always been mentally weak which IMO is the worst part of his game.
wrong. Dwight improved drastically in 2011. Which was his best year. He got better from 2009-2012 (before the injury) not worse.

[Legends66NBA7]

Prisoner of the moment syndrome from the OP and what seems to be the majority of this thread. It's a constant theme during the early games on ISH.

People didn't watch or at least have an understanding of Magic Dwight Howard. That guy was cleary better than Davis from the 08-11 stages. Davis hasn't even been to the playoffs yet, so we can talk about him being better than Howard in the future and how he performs when he gets there.

[LakersForlife]

for sure. Howard is a clown

[LAZERUSS]

Prisoner of the moment syndrome from the OP and what seems to be the majority of this thread. It's a constant theme during the early games on ISH.

People didn't watch or at least have an understanding of Magic Dwight Howard. That guy was cleary better than Davis from the 08-11 stages. Davis hasn't even been to the playoffs yet, so we can talk about him being better than Howard in the future and how he performs when he gets there.

This.

Davis may very well go on to have a greater career, but it is pure nonsense to suggest that he is a better player, today (and with only a handful of games this season to go on), than what a peak Howard was.

[STATUTORY]

so is damarcus cousins