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Derivative
11-10-2013, 12:58 PM
The bigman void has now been filled with Kevin Love and Anthony Davis. What the NBA desperately needs now are superstar level shooting guards, players who's main purpose is to score and to score alot. I really want to see more dynamic scorers like T-Mac, Iverson, Wade, and Kobe.

We have the greatest generation of PG in history (CP3, Curry, Westbrook, Irving, Rose, Wall, Rondo, Lilliard, MCW)

We have the greatest generation of SF in history (Lebron, Durant, Paul George)

We have an upcoming batch of great PFs (Love, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin)

Center position is still pretty much dead, but it can be replaced by the similar power forwards.

SGs are on the decline, Kobe is old and injured, Wade is old and dumb, Harden is a joke of a star. There isn't a player who can light up on points now. And there doesn't look to be a star SG draft in the future.


Really make me cherish Kobe as a player, even though he's just a poorman's copy of MJ. At least he tries. Now all the star players try to be like Lebron and focus on all-round game and good percentages. We never get to see 50 - 60 point games anymore.

Fudge
11-10-2013, 01:06 PM
Just hold on he's taking the throne... :bowdown:

http://blogs.courant.com/photo/UCMenSecondBlog38.jpg

gyu
11-10-2013, 01:19 PM
DION WAITERS is the next great SG :bowdown:











































:roll:

Inferno
11-10-2013, 01:21 PM
Wesley Matthews is averaging something like 18/6/2 on 56/53/79 shooting or something...not bad...

And there's also Klay :bowdown: :bowdown:

Derivative
11-10-2013, 01:22 PM
Wesley Matthews is averaging something like 18/6/2 on 56/53/79 shooting or something...not bad...

And there's also Klay :bowdown: :bowdown:


double his PPG and he can't even match T-mac, Kobe, Iverson, or Wade on an off night:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Inferno
11-10-2013, 01:31 PM
double his PPG and he can't even match T-mac, Kobe, Iverson, or Wade on an off night:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

They average more than 36 PPG?

Derivative
11-10-2013, 01:35 PM
They average more than 36 PPG?

o damn i was drunk and i thought 18x2 = 26 :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

anyways 18 ppg is pretty bad for a "shooting" guard

KeylessEntry
11-10-2013, 01:35 PM
Paul George would be listed as an SG if Granger was still playing.

livingby3's
11-10-2013, 01:57 PM
Monta Ellis, Klay Thompson, Eric Gordon, Eric Bledsoe(yes he plays SG), Bradley Beal, Jeremy Lamb, Evan Turner are probably the upcomings, most of which won't even get to be an allstar.
But yeah I agree, the SGs are the thinnest position given how the NBA is generally viewed as a guards driven/favored league. I think the NBA knows that and are currently working hard to 'promote' George and Harden. George is solid all around and legit but Harden is just fked up.

Sad we got robbed of Wade, Roy due to injuries. Those two would have accomplish more.

Mass Debator
11-10-2013, 02:00 PM
That's why we should cheer for Kobe and D-Wade while they last. Harden is a talented offensive player but doesn't even try on the defensive end 98.9% of the time. If you gave those point guards like Rose, Westbrook, and Irving 2-3 inches to their height, they would be playing the shooting guard role. And yeah, we got robbed of Brandon Roy.

cuad
11-10-2013, 02:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8tcSb4n.jpg

gyu
11-10-2013, 02:08 PM
Monta Ellis, Klay Thompson, Eric Gordon, Eric Bledsoe(yes he plays SG), Bradley Beal, Jeremy Lamb, Evan Turner are probably the upcomings, most of which won't even get to be an allstar.
But yeah I agree, the SGs are the thinnest position given how the NBA is generally viewed as a guards driven/favored league. I think the NBA knows that and are currently working hard to 'promote' George and Harden. George is solid all around and legit but Harden is just fked up.

Sad we got robbed of Wade, Roy due to injuries. Those two would have accomplish more.
Monta's already 28, he's not going to get much (if at all) better than he is now.

FreezingTsmoove
11-10-2013, 02:09 PM
Harden is not a joke SG's are supposed to score points and thats what he does you ****ing retards. ISH is dumb af sometimes :facepalm . Name me one SG in the history of NBA history that shoots a high % every night and gets to the line 10+ times every night and your giving me michael ****ing jordan. SG's have off nights and if Harden can give you 30/5/5 on 50% only 40 games a year ill take him every year

LakersDaBEst
11-10-2013, 02:10 PM
Yea of course, Kobe is still injured....

livingby3's
11-10-2013, 02:11 PM
Monta's already 28, he's not going to get much (if at all) better than he is now.

Damn i didnt even realise Monta is that old..

Derivative
11-10-2013, 09:53 PM
are there any upcomming potential SG drafts? (not those undersized 2 guards, but a legitimate 6'6 SG)

Flash31
11-10-2013, 11:53 PM
Harden is not a joke SG's are supposed to score points and thats what he does you ****ing retards. ISH is dumb af sometimes :facepalm . Name me one SG in the history of NBA history that shoots a high % every night and gets to the line 10+ times every night and your giving me michael ****ing jordan. SG's have off nights and if Harden can give you 30/5/5 on 50% only 40 games a year ill take him every year


Here

27,5,5
22,4,5
26,4,2

Kobe,Wade,Harden

Wade was most efficient at 52%
Kobe had most points per game
Defense-Wade
Playmaling-Wade

WTF does Harden do beside get 20fta a game
better than Kobe,Wade


Harden has NEVER come close to 30,5,5 on 50% in a season for even Close to 40 games total much less in a season


And seriously SG Shoot yeah no sht but they also play defense,and are
way way more efficient than Harden

Harden shot more than Wade,had more fta and yet only avg 4 more pts as 1st


Jordan
R Allen
R miller
Drexler
Wade
Kobe
Carter
West
Harden

Which one of these seems extremely off for a so called star?

Harden is the most inefficent "superstar" sg ever
and he is by far ThE worst defender EVER

he doesnt even TRY to play d
and his offensive game is mediocre at best
Shoot3s,get to rim,try to get a call

Thats LiTERALLY all HE Does

Harden is a clear definition of manufactured superstar

What Star with 10 fta +++ Shoots under 43% and can only get 26 ppg
with 4 ast all while being clear cut 1st option

NONE unless you count Harden as a star

Harden would be considered just a solid player at BEST if he played
in 2010-before as he does now

Legends66NBA7
11-10-2013, 11:55 PM
^I'd say Bryant was better than Wade last year in playmaking.

LoneyROY7
11-10-2013, 11:59 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/003/372/670/hi-res-182555746-eric-gordon-of-the-new-orleans-pelicans-poses-for_crop_650.jpg

His stats may not look great at the moment, but give him some time. He's on the way back.

Flash31
11-11-2013, 12:04 AM
Harden is not a joke SG's are supposed to score points and thats what he does you ****ing retards. ISH is dumb af sometimes :facepalm . Name me one SG in the history of NBA history that shoots a high % every night and gets to the line 10+ times every night and your giving me michael ****ing jordan. SG's have off nights and if Harden can give you 30/5/5 on 50% only 40 games a year ill take him every year


Id take a hobbled Wade,a way past his prime V Carter,an injured chucking Kobe,
39 yr old R Allen
all before Harden


Harden plays worse defense than somebodies grandmother

harden is a joke of a so called "Superstar".

If you needed 20 pts theres 10 other guards way more efficient,if you needed playmaking theres 20 other sg,defense Anybody besides Harden


And no Harden doesnt get all legit calls to the line
A gust of wind blows or you breath near him his beard flies up and somehow he gets whiplashed Every time


Harden is called a superstar by the media trying to Create him as such
Wade,Kobe arent gonna play forever and theres nobody close to them

Its like how the media proclaimed D Rose Best Player or Top 5
when facts and everything else say otherwise


Harden is a JOKE,Its a major disgrace to even compare him to superstars much less call him one

Granger avg 25 ppg and nobody called him a superstar,
Ellis,K Martin avg 20+

I see the hype and media machine is really working in full effect

Flash31
11-11-2013, 12:06 AM
^I'd say Bryant was better than Wade last year in playmaking.

Majority of season Wade
Part of Season-Kobe

Lets not forget Kobe doing Rondo assists,completely giving up scoring,and
having a crapload of tos in trying to be better than Steve Nash at playmaking and assists

Kobe was better for part of the season though

Dr. Cheesesteak
11-11-2013, 12:19 AM
as others have posted - plenty of potential at the SG position to be really solid in the future. In no particular order - Oladipo, Harden, Fournier, TRoss, McLemore, Beal, Klay, Jennings, Waiters, EGordon, Lamb, etc are all U24.

Micku
11-11-2013, 01:01 AM
The bigman void has now been filled with Kevin Love and Anthony Davis. What the NBA desperately needs now are superstar level shooting guards, players who's main purpose is to score and to score alot. I really want to see more dynamic scorers like T-Mac, Iverson, Wade, and Kobe.

We have the greatest generation of PG in history (CP3, Curry, Westbrook, Irving, Rose, Wall, Rondo, Lilliard, MCW)

We have the greatest generation of SF in history (Lebron, Durant, Paul George)

We have an upcoming batch of great PFs (Love, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin)

Center position is still pretty much dead, but it can be replaced by the similar power forwards.

SGs are on the decline, Kobe is old and injured, Wade is old and dumb, Harden is a joke of a star. There isn't a player who can light up on points now. And there doesn't look to be a star SG draft in the future.


Really make me cherish Kobe as a player, even though he's just a poorman's copy of MJ. At least he tries. Now all the star players try to be like Lebron and focus on all-round game and good percentages. We never get to see 50 - 60 point games anymore.

IMO the 80s had still had the best SF generation. They were too stacked in that position. Larry Bird, Dominique Wilkins, Dr. J, Alex English, Adrian Dantley, Bernard King, and James Worthy. There are others as well.

Anyway, the SG position isn't bad as the center position. You may not like Harden, but he's still a very good scorer. Wade brought back his mid range J it seems, so that's great. But the SG isn't like it was in the early 00s. And Monta Ellis is ok.

OJ SIMPSON 2.0
11-11-2013, 01:05 AM
We have the greatest generation of PG in history (CP3, Curry, Westbrook, Irving, Rose, Wall, Rondo, Lilliard, MCW)


:oldlol:

Cali Syndicate
11-11-2013, 01:08 AM
Damn i didnt even realise Monta is that old..

Came out of high school too.

bdreason
11-11-2013, 01:23 AM
Klay is the future. :bowdown: