Nov. 12, 2013 game thread: Michigan State vs Kentucky (Randle's debut!)

[Jameerthefear]

Game is on.

[LoneyROY7]

Gary Harris about to whoop dat ass.

[Johnny Jones]

MSU is legit this year.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Welcome to srs basketball twin #1

[MP.Trey]

Kentucky showing their inexperience early.

[Jameerthefear]

Michigan St. is dominating.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Kentucky is legit but way too young for this game

[noob cake]

Welcome to srs basketball twin #1

Harrison getting owned. Kentucky can't pass the ball without turning it over.

[LoneyROY7]

Randle looking like LeBron...in the 2011 NBA Finals.

[IGotACoolStory]

What's with UK's offense? No one is even kind of moving without the ball. A bunch of players standing around and one guy trying to iso. Awful.

[DeuceWallaces]

Ugh, but about what I was expecting to start the game.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Randle can handle the ball in transisition. interesting

[FreezingTsmoove]

What's with UK's offense? No one is even kind of moving without the ball. A bunch of players standing around and one guy trying to iso. Awful.

all these freshman are used to extreme domination. this aint your average class

[Project018]

Kentucky clearly were not ready to play in this game

[ZenMaster]

What's with UK's offense? No one is even kind of moving without the ball. A bunch of players standing around and one guy trying to iso. Awful.

A young team trying to figure out a good zone defense and the 35 second shot clock.

[Jameerthefear]

Randle looking like LeBron...in the 2011 NBA Finals.
:roll:

[EllisGW]

When Randle plays top athletes he struggles. He has been dominated by arron gordon and noel in the past.

[TheReal Kendall]

Kentucky finally scored:facepalm

[IGotACoolStory]

MSU isn't even playing zone. Looks like it because no one is moving.

Not like this is their first time playing together. Practices started in September. This isn't the first time Cal has put out a bunch of new players either.

They're moving better now...

[Eric Cartman]

Nice rebound by Randle

[Jameerthefear]

Randle is a beast on the boards.

[Eric Cartman]

transition d just awful

[ZenMaster]

MSU isn't even playing zone. Looks like it because no one is moving.

Not like this is their first time playing together. Practices started in September. This isn't the first time Cal has put out a bunch of new players either.

They're moving better now...

Switching and sagging everything out top equates to zone defense in that area.

Not their first time playing together obviously, don't be so dramatic.
It's a lot closer to the first time playing together than the 400th or whatever they'll be around at the end of the year.

[Project018]

Gary Harris looking nice

[IGotACoolStory]

Man, Harris looks great out there.

[MP.Trey]

Harris is nice

[Jameerthefear]

Is Gary Harris projected high for the draft?

[Eric Cartman]

Is Gary Harris projected high for the draft?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Gary-Harris-6273/

take with a grain of salt

[Project018]

Is Gary Harris projected high for the draft?

Yeah most got him in the lottery and if not in the lottery not many picks from it.

[IGotACoolStory]

Switching and sagging everything out top equates to zone defense in that area.

Not their first time playing together obviously, don't be so dramatic.
It's a lot closer to the first time playing together than the 400th or whatever they'll be around at the end of the year.

My point was that Cal's past teams didn't look like that, meaning it had nothing to do with experience. There were three straight possessions where no one basically moved. Obviously they were shook, as after the timeout they aren't just standing there doing nothing.

[MP.Trey]

I thought college ball would be free of this delay of game bs. :(

[Project018]

What you guys think about the Harrison twins? I've never seen them play until today. Just getting off to a bad start? Or a little over hyped?

[ZenMaster]

My point was that Cal's past teams didn't look like that, meaning it had nothing to do with experience. There were three straight possessions where no one basically moved. Obviously they were shook, as after the timeout they aren't just standing there doing nothing.

I disagree, his teams have played like this numerous times early in the year.

You want to spot RIGHT NOW if this team is good or not, but it's not there. Whatever happens in this game the potential of the team is undetermined.

[kNicKz]

rooting for MSU . Not a fan of south beach

[Eric Cartman]

better post moves than lebron :rockon:

[MP.Trey]

Randle dream shake

[Jameerthefear]

Jeff is moving some threads to this forum

[Burgz V2]

like the way we are swarming the ball. UK will get better as the year goes o, but they can't get into their dribble penetration offense

Gary Harris nice drive

[Jameerthefear]

James Young another 3 :D

[Burgz V2]

UK hanging around, they might be freshmen but as long as they get to the line, they will always have a chance

[Project018]

The PG for Kentucky has been horrible

[Burgz V2]

what a bad foul :facepalm:

[LoneyROY7]

Knew Gary Harris was gonna lay the hammer down on these freshmen.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Gary Harris is goin straight to the L after this season

[IGotACoolStory]

I disagree, his teams have played like this numerous times early in the year.

You want to spot RIGHT NOW if this team is good or not, but it's not there. Whatever happens in this game the potential of the team is undetermined.

What? I didn't argue that at all.

I said UK wasn't moving without the ball and it looks awful. Your reply implied it is because of their youth. I disagreed with evidence of past "new" Cal teams and that they looked different out of the timeout.

Nothing in my posts suggests I think this team is incredibly overrated and this is a repeat of last year. Which I think you were getting at in the last post with different words. I might be wrong on that. Correct me if I am.


Payne reminds me of someone. Help me out, anyone? Oh, and I'm not looking forward to the MSU game. You guys are going to romp us.

[Jameerthefear]

Gary Harris looks beastly.

[Dolphin]

When's the last time MSU has had a stud on the wing like Gary Harris? Please don't say Maurice Ager or Shannon Brown. lol

Heck, I should say stud in general because while Draymond was a first team all-american, he wasn't and is never gonna be more than a bench player in the NBA. Harris can legit carry this team I believe on offense without relying on teammates.

Payne is nice too. lol

Worried about only being up 12 though....let's see if they can keep it up and it starts on defense.

[Jameerthefear]

Randle is STRONG. Good move.

[ZenMaster]

What? I didn't argue that at all.

I said UK wasn't moving without the ball and it looks awful. Your reply implied it is because of their youth. I disagreed with evidence of past "new" Cal teams and that they looked different out of the timeout.

Nothing in my posts suggests I think this team is incredibly overrated and this is a repeat of last year. Which I think you were getting at in the last post with different words. I might be wrong on that. Correct me if I am.


Payne reminds me of someone. Help me out, anyone? Oh, and I'm not looking forward to the MSU game. You guys are going to romp us.

Well yeah we disagreed on it, I said they're young and a new team while you implied it's not much of a factor:


Not like this is their first time playing together. Practices started in September. This isn't the first time Cal has put out a bunch of new players either.

They stood completely still for a few possessions, yes they where shook...because they are young. It's not like they don't know how to move. No other Cal team this young has played this good of an opponent so early in the season. Kentucky is ranked 1 and MSU 2 but the numbers mean so little at this point because they're all untested, Kentucky is an underdog going in in a big game like this.

[Jameerthefear]

Randle heating up

[MP.Trey]

Randle's coming up big.

[kurt_rambis]

randle's got some of that fck you attitude

[Chuckbrook]

Randle pretty dam strong. Keep feeding him the ball.

BTW, Kentucky players need to calm down a bit

[FreezingTsmoove]

Randles ball protection is absolutely horrible. I'd go as far as to say its worse than the wonder twins but thats pushing it

[Burgz V2]

When's the last time MSU has had a stud on the wing like Gary Harris? Please don't say Maurice Ager or Shannon Brown. lol

Heck, I should say stud in general because while Draymond was a first team all-american, he wasn't and is never gonna be more than a bench player in the NBA. Harris can legit carry this team I believe on offense without relying on teammates.

Payne is nice too. lol

Worried about only being up 12 though....let's see if they can keep it up and it starts on defense.

Gary Harris was a steal. At the time Purdue and IU were both strong teams, but he chose MSU anyways.

Izzo has made a career off of taking gritty defensive wings and making them look LIKE studs, but I agree, in terms of talent transferrable to the next level, Gary Harris is as good as we've had, at least since Morris Peterson. (lulz)

[Burgz V2]

Randles ball protection is absolutely horrible. I'd go as far as to say its worse than the wonder twins but thats pushing it

that's kind of unfair. i mean we are talking about MSU. All Izzo teams make you look a little worse with the ball, the defensive philosophy is predicated on intense ball pressure and hard rotations on defense. That's why everyone talks about Izzo's teams being gritty, it's hard to convince a guy to commit to a school knowing that they are going to be busting their asses all over the floor, hence the reason we get a lot of blue collar players.

[Dolphin]

Gary Harris was a steal. At the time Purdue and IU were both strong teams, but he chose MSU anyways.

Izzo has made a career off of taking gritty defensive wings and making them look LIKE studs, but I agree, in terms of talent transferrable to the next level, Gary Harris is as good as we've had, at least since Morris Peterson. (lulz)

Well Peterson was drafted 11th overall albeit in one of the worst draft classes ever (2000). lol

Gauna or Guana needs to man up here. I think that's what Dawson was telling him when they were going at it. lol

[Burgz V2]

Randles ball protection is absolutely horrible. I'd go as far as to say its worse than the wonder twins but thats pushing it

that's kind of unfair. i mean we are talking about MSU. All Izzo teams make you look a little worse with the ball, the defensive philosophy is predicated on intense ball pressure and hard rotations on defense. That's why everyone talks about Izzo's teams being gritty, it's hard to convince a guy to commit to a school knowing that they are going to be busting their asses all over the floor, hence the reason we get a lot of blue collar players.

Matt Costello I effing love you

[Burgz V2]

Well Peterson was drafted 11th overall albeit in one of the worst draft classes ever (2000). lol

Gauna or Guana needs to man up here. I think that's what Dawson was telling him when they were going at it. lol

i know i saw that too :lol

he needs to pull his socks up and get in the game

[Burgz V2]

james young looks like a great college player in the making. dude can shoot the hell out of the ball

[Burgz V2]

if Cauley-Stein is hurt then its over. He's the only one giving Payne and Dawson trouble on the glass

[kNicKz]

MSU's offense is laughable. Might cost them the game

[Johnny Jones]

I fuvking hate this handcheck bull shit.

[Eric Cartman]

don't call it a comeback

man these refs :facepalm

[MP.Trey]

So many whistles.

[plowking]

Randle getting jobbed by the referees.

He really looks like the real deal. Makes some incredible shots.

[ZenMaster]

I fuvking hate this handcheck bull shit.

There's a foul every play but the players never travel.

[Eric Cartman]

"Too much for one defender to handle"

[Burgz V2]

refs need to swallow their whistles, let the men play

[Burgz V2]

damn Julius Randle showing why he's a one and done, top 3 pick

[Eric Cartman]

15 points in the second half after a poor first hasn't missed yet.

[CJ Mustard]

Randle is too good.

[kNicKz]

http://sportsinvasion.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/reggiemiller.jpg

[Eric Cartman]

13-3 run for Kentucky these last 3 minutes and a half.

[Project018]

Randle a beast on them boards damn

[Burgz V2]

finally Harris gets a touch on offense, and we score. It's simple, pick and roll them to death for the rest of the game.

damnit as Im typing this Randle going to the line again. the only way to stop him is to keep him from getting off the bus.

[Burgz V2]

http://sportsinvasion.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/reggiemiller.jpg

it isn't the college basketball forum without kNicKz's shenanigans.

chill, we all know UK would make a run

[EllisGW]

randle won't be able to over power 6'10 guys in the nba, his gonna have a midrange in the league.

[Eric Cartman]

dwight howard esque free throw shooting

[Eric Cartman]

that didn't look like a foul on that randle shot

[Project018]

That spin move is vicious

[kNicKz]

it isn't the college basketball forum without kNicKz's shenanigans.



:D

[Jameerthefear]

Thibs at the game

[FreezingTsmoove]

randle won't be able to over power 6'10 guys in the nba, his gonna have a midrange in the league.

obviously

[kNicKz]

randle won't be able to over power 6'10 guys in the nba, his gonna have a midrange in the league.

he oozes with potential though. You can tell he has the tools to be a great NBA player

[MP.Trey]

Appling with 22/8/6/4 tho :applause:

[kNicKz]

these refs are kind of ruining this

[CelticBaller]

Damn Randle keep bricking them

[ZenMaster]

Apparently it's supposed to be impossible to play 1on1 post defense, that is unless you can keep your balance taking contact while standing like a scarecrow.

[Eric Cartman]

these refs are kind of ruining this

this, let dem play don't want to see a free throw contest

[IGotACoolStory]

Well yeah we disagreed on it, I said they're young and a new team while you implied it's not much of a factor:



They stood completely still for a few possessions, yes they where shook...because they are young. It's not like they don't know how to move. No other Cal team this young has played this good of an opponent so early in the season. Kentucky is ranked 1 and MSU 2 but the numbers mean so little at this point because they're all untested, Kentucky is an underdog going in in a big game like this.

Fair point. I took youth to mean something else when you originally said it.

Still don't understand your last post before this one. Explain to feed my curiosity or no?

[CelticBaller]

Randle beatsing. **** kentucky tho

[Tking714]

I'd confidently take Randle over Wiggins or Parker.

Parker seems like a safe bet. Has the best handle of the group. All around good at everything and has legit SF size, always a good combo.

Wiggins never uses a left hand and handles are suspect to me. He's the best defender and most likely to be able to play the SG position. Most Marketable because of athleticism. Can't shoot a lick. He reminds me too much of Demar Derozan.

Randle already has it all + a refined post game and NBA ready size. Can play the 4 and slide to the 3. Handles are great for a forward. I'm not a fan of banking on a potential guy like Wiggins who can jump high when you have an NBA ready product in Randle right in front of you.

[ZenMaster]

Fair point. I took youth to mean something else when you originally said it.

Still don't understand your last post before this one. Explain to feed my curiosity or no?

Which one?

[NuggetsFan]

Randle finishing over the triple team. He's looked beastly but alot of that stuff won't fly in the NBA, potential is obviously there. Dude's a man among boys.

[MP.Trey]

MSU will finish this off.

[Burgz V2]

Julius Randle reminds me of a young C-Webb. just has everything you need in an NBA PF

[IGotACoolStory]

Which one?


I disagree, his teams have played like this numerous times early in the year.

You want to spot RIGHT NOW if this team is good or not, but it's not there. Whatever happens in this game the potential of the team is undetermined.

In relation to the post you quoted of mine.

By the way, UK played the same KU team (which I think was upperclassmen led) they would face in the national championship in 2012 on Nov 15. Beside the point, but I had to check.

[kNicKz]

Calipari in the huddle is like "I gave each of you 100 grand and a Corvette and this is what you give me?!?!?!"

[Jameerthefear]

Randle is a beast. He's gonna be really good someday.

[Tking714]

Calipari in the huddle is like "I gave each of you 100 grand and a Corvette and this is what you give me?!?!?!"

:lol

[IGotACoolStory]

I realize the new rules seem to be ruining the flow of the college game; and it clearly is right now. But once teams adjust to those rules, I think the product on the court will be a much better one. NFL tackles without fouls being called didn't exactly help the flow either.

It's for the better imo. There's just going to be a readjustment period.

[TheReal Kendall]

Apparently it's supposed to be impossible to play 1on1 post defense, that is unless you can keep your balance taking contact while standing like a scarecrow.

Yup!

They changed the rules so there's gonna be a lot more calls this season

[ukfan22]

the Harrisons need to step it up, that was a bad performance

[ZenMaster]

In relation to the post you quoted of mine.

By the way, UK played the same KU team (which I think was upperclassmen led) they would face in the national championship in 2012 on Nov 15. Beside the point, but I had to check.

Well you seemed to completely dismiss the factor of them being a new team and very young. "Never seen this before from a good Cal team" attitude, it sounded like you where trying to dismiss them and going out of your way to do it.

[ZenMaster]

Yup!

They changed the rules so there's gonna be a lot more calls this season

Horrible to watch, always been 1 hand up and 1 hand on the back. It works because you can keep your balance.
If the players can't execute this new defense they're going to have to trap all post players on the catch.

We want to watch basketball, not a two and a half hour long free throw contest.

[Linspired]

Julius Randle reminds me of a young C-Webb. just has everything you need in an NBA PF

More like bigger and faster Zebo.

He doesn't have cwebb's playmaking ability

[IGotACoolStory]

Well you seemed to completely dismiss the factor of them being a new team and very young. "Never seen this before from a good Cal team" attitude, it sounded like you where trying to dismiss them and going out of your way to do it.

Oh, that wasn't remotely my intention, nor the tone of my post.

See where you were going though. :cheers:

[Dolphin]

Great win....but even though Costello looks pretty decent and the other two rotation bigs are alright, the offense is really hindered when Payne is in foul trouble. Hopefully Costello keeps on improving because he looks more ready than I thought he would be (I could have said the same thing last year tbh so I shouldn't be too surprised).

Dawson can cause havoc down low as well. If only he had the hand skills of Randle he could absolutely dominate as a 3 or 4 in college. I mean absolutely bully kids. Maybe now that he has a year under him since coming back he can work on that. He would have put up 20+ today if he was smoother.

[Twin Beadles]

Gary Harris about to whoop dat ass.
dude hi-five!

[Goliath Uterus]

Gary Harris is a fvcking baller. KU last year, UK this year. Dude's certified at this point.

[InspiredLebowski]

Gary Harris is a fvcking baller. KU last year, UK this year. Dude's certified at this point.**** Gary Harris. grumble grumble grumble.

[bdreason]

How tall is Randle? He doesn't seem that big. Not sure if that post work is going to translate to the NBA.