View Full Version : Do you guys think Eric Gordon will still be a Star?
b0bab0i
11-13-2013, 12:25 AM
Dude was seriously going to be a star SG in the league, but he's been riddled with injuries.
ZMonkey11
11-13-2013, 12:28 AM
Riddled with injuries AND a bad attitude. I'm going to side with no.
SpecialQue
11-13-2013, 12:35 AM
No.
outbreak
11-13-2013, 12:36 AM
Dunno to be honest, if he stays with New orleans I don't think so. If he went somewhere like San Antonio I think he'd come good again. But yeah his attitude and injuries are an issue, is it also possible he just looked really good on a bad team where he could do what he wanted? What were his shooting %s like in L.A, I know he averaged over 20pts one year but was he efficient?
livingby3's
11-13-2013, 12:49 AM
Had he went to the Suns, it should have benefited him. But Hornets/Pelicans decided to match. I think he doesn't want to play for NO
Fiasco
11-13-2013, 12:51 AM
Career 44% from the field. Guy was a good second option.
OldSkoolball#52
11-13-2013, 12:56 AM
I just dont see it. Hes a nice player. Not a great player.
b0bab0i
11-13-2013, 02:36 AM
Wasn't able to watch the lakers game today, but is he still a good defender?
Qwyjibo
11-13-2013, 02:38 AM
He could have been.
He was great at creating his own shot and getting to the line. That's a must for any SG in the NBA if they want to be among the best. Gordon did it really well. He had a decent enough outside shot too. It all depends on his health and how he moves once he starts logging big minutes game after game again.
coin24
11-13-2013, 03:01 AM
Still no idea why NO matched, he clearly didn't want to be there..
And for everyone who says he was a RFA and all that bullshit, how is it working out for them now? Might want to look into trading him
b0bab0i
11-13-2013, 04:07 PM
Still no idea why NO matched, he clearly didn't want to be there..
And for everyone who says he was a RFA and all that bullshit, how is it working out for them now? Might want to look into trading him
Any teams that will take him with that massive contract?
DMAVS41
11-13-2013, 04:09 PM
Marginally better, if at all, than Kevin Martin.
Gordon makes 15 million a year.
Martin makes 6.5 million a year.
I'll let you all determine which player makes the most sense to have on a team.
Star? No.
LoneyROY7
11-13-2013, 04:16 PM
I'm a well-documented Gordon homer, but I can be objective in the sense that at this point it would be hard to argue yes.
He has looked healthy on the court this season (his quickness and explosion seem to have returned), but he has still yet to put together the full package that he showed flashes of with the Clippers.
I still believe there's a chance he could return to form and develop into the player people envisioned of him when he was in LA, but it's easy to understand why many don't share the same opinion.
Eric Cartman
11-13-2013, 04:18 PM
Marginally better, if at all, than Kevin Martin.
Gordon makes 15 million a year.
Martin makes 6.5 million a year.
I'll let you all determine which player makes the most sense to have on a team.
Star? No.
monta ellis is like 9-10 a year also gives better production than him
LoneyROY7
11-13-2013, 04:41 PM
monta ellis is like 9-10 a year also gives better production than him
I don't think anyone would argue that Gordon has been producing to the level relative to his pay.
However, now that he is finally healthy and back on the court playing, I think we should give it to the end of this season to determine whether he can ever warrant that kind of deal.
DMAVS41
11-13-2013, 04:44 PM
I don't think anyone would argue that Gordon has been producing to the level relative to his pay.
However, now that he is finally healthy and back on the court playing, I think we should give it to the end of this season to determine whether he can ever warrant that kind of deal.
I think that verdict is in. He'd have to become a legit all nba team player to make his pay worth it.
Kevin Martin is making 6.5 million a year. There is no way that Gordon could ever be worth more than double what Martin makes.
He'd have to take the leap to be on the level of a Chris Paul or Westbrook to warrant that kind of pay. And that isn't happening.
NumberSix
11-13-2013, 04:54 PM
IMO, he doesn't have what it takes. His attitude is just not conducive to getting it done.
LoneyROY7
11-13-2013, 05:01 PM
I think that verdict is in. He'd have to become a legit all nba team player to make his pay worth it.
Kevin Martin is making 6.5 million a year. There is no way that Gordon could ever be worth more than double what Martin makes.
He'd have to take the leap to be on the level of a Chris Paul or Westbrook to warrant that kind of pay. And that isn't happening.
The reason Martin is getting paid significantly less than Gordon though, is due largely in part to age. Martin is six years older then Gordon, and when he was Gordon's age he signed a 5 year 55 million dollar extension (not a far cry from the deal Gordon was given)
Gordon was given that max deal based largely on potential, potential he has yet to fulfill, but I wouldn't say he necessarily has to become Chris Paul in order to warrant the contract.
If he were to say average 70+ games a season over the next 3 seasons, while averaging 22-23 ppg, 4 apg, and 3 rpg on good efficiency while playing solid defense...I would say the contract ultimately ends up being a reasonable deal even considering the off-year last season.
Now, is all that likely? Many would say not. But I wouldn't say it's completely out of the realm of possibility.
DMAVS41
11-13-2013, 05:17 PM
The reason Martin is getting paid significantly less than Gordon though, is due largely in part to age. Martin is six years older then Gordon, and when he was Gordon's age he signed a 5 year 55 million dollar extension (not a far cry from the deal Gordon was given)
Gordon was given that max deal based largely on potential, potential he has yet to fulfill, but I wouldn't say he necessarily has to become Chris Paul in order to warrant the contract.
If he were to say average 70+ games a season over the next 3 seasons, while averaging 22-23 ppg, 4 apg, and 3 rpg on good efficiency while playing solid defense...I would say the contract ultimately ends up being a reasonable deal even considering the off-year last season.
Now, is all that likely? Many would say not. But I wouldn't say it's completely out of the realm of possibility.
Exactly...on potential. Potential he has yet to fulfill. Martin is a good example because to date...Gordon has been no better at any point in his career.
How is he going to put up those numbers while playing on this team also? I don't think there will be enough shots for him to get that...especially when Andersen comes back and with Davis improving constantly...I just doubt giving a lot of shots to a player that isn't that efficient is going to happen.
It was a terrible contract at the time...and looks even worse now given what a better situation the Pelicans would be in if Gordon simply wasn't on this team.
He is worth something around 5 to 7 million a year based on his play to date.
DMAVS41
11-13-2013, 05:18 PM
IMO, he doesn't have what it takes. His attitude is just not conducive to getting it done.
Neither is his play. He could maybe be the 3rd best player on a contending team if the other two are legit all nba performers.
NumberSix
11-13-2013, 05:20 PM
Neither is his play. He could maybe be the 3rd best player on a contending team if the other two are legit all nba performers.
Honestly, he's the kind of guy I don't want in my locker room at all.
2LeTTeRS
11-13-2013, 05:27 PM
He is worth something around 5 to 7 million a year based on his play to date.
This simply isn't true. In a league where Gordon Hayward is turning down $50 mil to hold out for max; you are not going to sign a 22 year old who is a knockdown shooter and a plus defender for that price-tag.
DMAVS41
11-13-2013, 05:36 PM
This simply isn't true. In a league where Gordon Hayward is turning down $50 mil to hold out for max; you are not going to sign a 22 year old who is a knockdown shooter and a plus defender for that price-tag.
You mean the 56 games he was that? He simply hasn't do enough to warrant anything more than what the likes of kevin martin gets.
Dude has missed a ton of games. Seems to have a bad attitude...and is a 18/3/3 player for his career to date.
He's also 25 now...not 22.
b0bab0i
11-13-2013, 07:57 PM
Exactly...on potential. Potential he has yet to fulfill. Martin is a good example because to date...Gordon has been no better at any point in his career.
How is he going to put up those numbers while playing on this team also? I don't think there will be enough shots for him to get that...especially when Andersen comes back and with Davis improving constantly...I just doubt giving a lot of shots to a player that isn't that efficient is going to happen.
It was a terrible contract at the time...and looks even worse now given what a better situation the Pelicans would be in if Gordon simply wasn't on this team.
He is worth something around 5 to 7 million a year based on his play to date.
It's their own fault they matched the Suns offer. EJ even told NO not to match the offer since he didnt' want to play for them.
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