Dwight this is how its done you bum

[juju151111]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXb7dn7yKWk What has Hakeem been teaching this scrub. Disappointed, can't even score on a scrub.

[chocolatethunder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXb7dn7yKWk What has Hakeem been teaching this scrub. Disappointed, can't even score on a scrub.
He can't score on a scrub because he's not tall and he's always had problems with taller centers. In addition, he just not very smart so you can't expect him to size up his defender and make a lightning quick decision on how he's going to score on him. Here's the deal with Howard. He's a good defender and rebounder but he just has never really learned fundamentals offensively and he just doesn't have a high bb IQ. People need to be more realistic with their expectations of him. You cannot run an offense through him because he doesn't know what to do with the ball in the post. He can run the floor but if you're tryn run half court sets through him, you're never going to get anywhere.

[Micku]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXb7dn7yKWk What has Hakeem been teaching this scrub. Disappointed, can't even score on a scrub.

He can't do any of that. He doesn't have the quickness that Hakeem had. He should be looking at Shaq or Kevin Mchale. But even then, you have to have touch with your hook shots. Look at Shaq being a man among boys here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dx-kz5fQGM

Or Kevin Mchale:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdtgUOiWHJg

They don't take many dribbles to make their move, so the double time won't on time. They catch it at the low block most of the time.

[coin24]

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Now this is how its done!!!

[OldSkoolball#52]

The idea that you can teach someone coordination they don't have has gotten so silly. I mean good for Hakeem that he can keep makin bank on it without any results but damn.

Mark Price needs to set up a free throw shooting clinic. Dude will make a fortunate and not a single free throw % will be improved.

[D.J.]

Dwight doesn't have the ball IQ to pull off moves like Hakeem, Shaq, or McHale. He was always relied on athleticism and running the floor. That's why he thrived in Orlando with SVG running the show. Surround him with a quick PG and good outside shooters, he's good to go. Force him into the half court and put a tall defender on him, he struggled greatly. He can't shoot, his hook shot is iffy at best, and he doesn't have the footwork.

He'll grab rebounds wherever he goes, but if you want him reaching his potential, he needs to be on a team that can run and loves to shoot.

[KobeClutchAsFK]

wow. that was incredible. It always strikes me how he looks like a 7ft guard/center hybrid.

[The Real JW]

The idea that you can teach someone coordination they don't have has gotten so silly. I mean good for Hakeem that he can keep makin bank on it without any results but damn.

Mark Price needs to set up a free throw shooting clinic. Dude will make a fortunate and not a single free throw % will be improved.

I think with Dwight and Griffin's case, the problem isn't really coordination. It's just not knowing what to do and/or not doing it. They let their defender push them way too far from the basket when they're posting up, or they're posting that far out of laziness/carelessness.

It might be a coordination problem when it comes to their FT shooting, but they have the physical tools for great post games. There's no excuse there.

[juju151111]

He can't do any of that. He doesn't have the quickness that Hakeem had. He should be looking at Shaq or Kevin Mchale. But even then, you have to have touch with your hook shots. Look at Shaq being a man among boys here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dx-kz5fQGM

Or Kevin Mchale:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdtgUOiWHJg

They don't take many dribbles to make their move, so the double time won't on time. They catch it at the low block most of the time.
I know Dwight faces uo then takes like 4 long dribbles which he fumbles and then throws up some stupid shot. He has been horrible on the block.

[juju151111]

wow. that was incredible. It always strikes me how he looks like a 7ft guard/center hybrid.
Hakeem was no joke man. He was top 10 in everything in his prime. Blocks,stls,scoring etc... and that was Hakeem st 32. He was way more explosive in the 80s early 90s.

[D.J.]

Hakeem was no joke man. He was top 10 in everything in his prime. Blocks,stls,scoring etc... and that was Hakeem st 32. He was way more explosive in the 80s early 90s.


His footwork was beyond ridiculous. He played soccer before basketball, same with Nash. That explains why they move so well on their feet with and without the ball. There has never been a big man with Hakeem's ability to twist, turn, and manuever their feet into scoring opportunities.

[Nick Young]

Well that is an unfair comparison, Hakeem was 7'0 and moved like a guard and had amazing touch. Howard has bad touch and and isnt that agile and doesnt have the same kind of footwork.

A better player to try to emulate would be Shaq. All Howard needs to learn how to do is seal someone off in the post, drop step and a baby hook. The running hook is too hard for him he needs to cut that shit out. He just has to go back to basics and focus on a power game.

Dont get me wrong though, Shaq had way more finesse then Howard, he would just be a better player for Howard to model his offense off of then Hakeem, the way Hakeem plays requires not only high skill but high IQ and D12 doesnt have that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dx-kz5fQGM
shaq

[Nick Young]

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Now this is how its done!!!
Best scoring center in the league, if only he was a good passer and could stay healthy he'd be franchise player level IMO.

[Collie]

He should be copying Moses Malone's playstyle. Malone wasn't exactly the pinnacle of offensive prowess, but still dropped 25+ ppg regularly.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Dwight doesn't have the ball IQ to pull off moves like Hakeem, Shaq, or McHale. He was always relied on athleticism and running the floor. That's why he thrived in Orlando with SVG running the show. Surround him with a quick PG and good outside shooters, he's good to go. Force him into the half court and put a tall defender on him, he struggled greatly. He can't shoot, his hook shot is iffy at best, and he doesn't have the footwork.

He'll grab rebounds wherever he goes, but if you want him reaching his potential, he needs to be on a team that can run and loves to shoot.

agreed :applause:

[Pursuer]

Hey Dwight got what he wanted. He wanted to be featured in post up plays. He hates pick n roll. That's what he got. Probably only player in the league who hates playing pick n roll with Steve Nash.

[inclinerator]

He can't do any of that. He doesn't have the quickness that Hakeem had. He should be looking at Shaq or Kevin Mchale. But even then, you have to have touch with your hook shots. Look at Shaq being a man among boys here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dx-kz5fQGM

Or Kevin Mchale:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdtgUOiWHJg

They don't take many dribbles to make their move, so the double time won't on time. They catch it at the low block most of the time.
damn shaq is so deep every single time

[monkeypox]

Dwight and Chuck went over this after the games today. The problem Howard has is that he sets up too far away from the basket and/or lets people push him away from his spot. They also pointed out that he's easy to defend in the paint because he has such a limited move set. Shaq kept saying if Dwight just added a duck in move he could be significantly more effective in the paint. After the Laker Houston game they broke down how he doesn't ask for the ball enough or in the correct positions and doesn't have any real moves once he does get the ball.

[I<3NBA]

Dwight posts on the high block. he'll never be effective that way. he has to get in deeper in the paint and just power his way there.

i never understand it with this era. usually when post players get it in the high post, they send it back and the wing players just give it back to them once they have gotten deeper in the post. i never see this play anymore. no more resetting of post play.

teams have also figured out how to defend Howard. just send the double on his blind side.

[Random_Guy]

the video actually reminded a bit of kevin garnett, as the previous poster said, a guard/center hybrid. Never watched Hakeem play though, can any older posters make some comparisons?

[jstern]

Amazing skills by Hakeem. Just beautiful.

[Micku]

Dwight and Chuck went over this after the games today. The problem Howard has is that he sets up too far away from the basket and/or lets people push him away from his spot. They also pointed out that he's easy to defend in the paint because he has such a limited move set. Shaq kept saying if Dwight just added a duck in move he could be significantly more effective in the paint. After the Laker Houston game they broke down how he doesn't ask for the ball enough or in the correct positions and doesn't have any real moves once he does get the ball.

He had a respectable post game in Orlando. He had multiple moves too that he don't even see anymore like the backshot jumper, hook shot, and up and under moves. He loves to face up. Watch some highlights of his later years in Orlando Magic, and ppl were talking about how much better he has gotten with his post game.

Ever since he left Orlando, Howard turned into a different player offensive and regress.

[ballup]

Last night, Howard showed that he treats the post like a routine, not as a puzzle. Every singletime I saw him post up, he tried to turn away from the baseline. No shimmys, no up and unders. He also tried to force a post up when the spacing wasn't there. Dwight tries to bull his way in when that's not him.

[Nick Young]

He had a respectable post game in Orlando. He had multiple moves too that he don't even see anymore like the backshot jumper, hook shot, and up and under moves. He loves to face up. Watch some highlights of his later years in Orlando Magic, and ppl were talking about how much better he has gotten with his post game.

Ever since he left Orlando, Howard turned into a different player offensive and regress.
No he didn't. All of those moves he would use for like a month at a time and then he'd never use again. He had a few hot games but when things even out over time he was never consistent with any of those moves

[Nick Young]

Last night, Howard showed that he treats the post like a routine, not as a puzzle. Every singletime I saw him post up, he tried to turn away from the baseline. No shimmys, no up and unders. He also tried to force a post up when the spacing wasn't there. Dwight tries to bull his way in when that's not him.
He just doesnt know what hes doing. As a hustle guy who finishes alley oops hes brilliant. Give him the ball and expect him to score is a recipe for failure.

[robert de niro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4rJ_907q9g

timmy is still looking for the ball :lol

[MavsSuperFan]

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Now this is how its done!!!
man if dwight could do that... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
but it doesnt see like he can:(

[gts]

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[Take Your Lumps]

Dwight doesn't have the ball IQ to pull off moves like Hakeem, Shaq, or McHale. He was always relied on athleticism and running the floor. That's why he thrived in Orlando with SVG running the show. Surround him with a quick PG and good outside shooters, he's good to go. Force him into the half court and put a tall defender on him, he struggled greatly. He can't shoot, his hook shot is iffy at best, and he doesn't have the footwork.

Sheed's Pistons used to do this to him ALL THE TIME back in his Orlando days. It's really shocking how little he's improved since then (and IMO he's actually regressed defensively a bit).

[Micku]

No he didn't. All of those moves he would use for like a month at a time and then he'd never use again. He had a few hot games but when things even out over time he was never consistent with any of those moves

We would have to check out his ppp on post play. He seemed to be a lot better in Orlando with it. From basketball reference, we know that his hook shots were better. They were on par with Bynum's hook shots. But admitted, I didn't watch the Magic consistently enough. From the games that I did watch, his post game was decent. He did used to have a backboard jumpshot, tho I didn't know how efficient it was. And he used some shimmies every once in a while.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Dwight should've told LA he'd stay if they moved Paula Gasoft, and old, busted up Steve Nash for younger athletes to off set the age of Kobe Bryant. Kobe still would've given him an opportunity to compete for rings. In reality Howard needs to realize he's a glorified: Ben Wallace, Tyson Chandler, modern Bill Russell type. The offensive side of the floor isn't his game. He isn't a complete player like he thinks.