Would you die and come back to life if you had a 60% chance?

[hateraid]

If the chances to revive you after dying for 10 minutes were 60%, would you take that chance to see what's in the afterlife?

40% you will be permanently dead

[artex]

does it have to be right now ? cuz i'd be down a bit later in life . .

[East_Stone_Ya]

If the chances to revive you after dying for 10 minutes were 60%, would you take that chance to see what's in the afterlife?

40% you will be permanently dead

hmm....no
afterlife doesn't interest me

[hateraid]

does it have to be right now ? cuz i'd be down a bit later in life . .

Yes right now. i think the information would be more useful at a younger age

[-p.tiddy-]

this thread was made for me...

answer: no way

the only advantage would be to share your story with others, otherwise you are going to die anyway so what's the rush?

people flat line and come back all the time, have been brain dead, no brain waves...they come back with stories and majority of people for what ever reason don't care to listen to them, or write it off as a dream/brain trip. And it is impossible for them to prove what they are saying is real.

If you accomplished this for 10 minutes you would just be another NDE story...one more added to thousands already out there

[FatComputerNerd]

Make it 75% chance of return, and return is to at least a few years in the past with full memory retention.

Think investments, sports bets, possible different life choices, etc...

I wonder how many people would take that gamble.

[-p.tiddy-]

Yes right now. i think the information would be more useful at a younger age

almost everyone that has an NDE comes back "changed"...they become much more charitable and go about day to day life much differently than they did before their "death".

[ace23]

Lol pt yapping about NDEs again. :oldlol:

[Scholar]

Hmm.. Probably not. That 40% chance is too risky. I have family who depend on me.

[-p.tiddy-]

Lol pt yapping about NDEs again. :oldlol:
lol yeah I said this thread was made for me...

I mean, that's exactly what he is talking about...an NDE

[Myth]

lol yeah I said this thread was made for me...

I mean, that's exactly what he is talking about...an NDE

I think OP is talking about DE, not NDE.

[-p.tiddy-]

I think OP is talking about DE, not NDE.
no, that would mean you don't come back...

[-p.tiddy-]

I have observed that it seems to take a minimum of seven years for most NDErs to integrate the aftereffects. Although these cannot be faked, an individual can delay the onset of them or deny their existence. Seven major elements comprise the universal pattern:

Unconditional Love - NDErs perceive themselves as equally and fully loving of each and all, openly generous, excited about the potential and wonder of each person they see. Confused family members tend to regard this sudden switch in behavior as oddly threatening, as if their loved one had become aloof, un-responsive, even uncaring or unloving.

Lack of Boundaries - Familiar codes of conduct can lose relevance or disappear altogether as unlimited avenues of interest and inquiry take priority. This new frame of reference can infuse NDErs with such an accepting nature that they can and do display childlike naivety. With the fading of previous norms and standards, basic cautions and discernments can also fade.

Timelessness - Most NDErs begin to "flow" with natural shift of time, rejecting locks and schedules as they exhibit a heightened awareness of the present moment and the importance of "now." They are easily distracted and can appear "spacey" until they readjust to the demands of daily routines.

The Psychic - Extrasensory perception and various types of psychic phenomena become normal and ordinary in the lives of NDErs. A person's religious beliefs do not prevent this expansion of faculties or enlargements of perceptual range. This can frighten the unprepared and be misconstrued as "the devil's work" when it is actually more akin to "gifts of the spirit."

Reality Switches - Hard-driving achievers and materialists can transform into easy-going philosophers; but, by the same token, those once more relaxed or uncommitted can become energetic "movers and shakers," determined to make a difference in the world. Switches seem to depend more on what is "needed" to round out the individual's growth than on any uniform result.

The Soul as Self - Most come to recognize themselves as an immortal soul currently resident within material form so lessons can be learned while sojourning in the Earth realm. They know they are not their body; it is a "jacket" they wear. The majority develop an interest in reincarnation, some accept it as valid.

Modes of Communications - What was once foreign becomes familiar, what was once familiar becomes foreign. Rationale of any kind tends to lose its logic as NDErs begin to think more abstractly and in grandiose terms. New ways of using language, even whole new vocabularies, emerge.

Within some households, relatives are so impressed by what they witness with their loved one that they too change, making the NDE a "shared" event. In other families, though, the response is so negative that alienation, separation, or divorce results. The situation with children, who undergo the same aftereffects as adults, can be doubly challenging, since they lack the ability to speak up for themselves, negotiate, or seek alternatives.

Basing the degree of an individual's transformation solely on before and after contrasts can distort or mask deeper issues that may eventually undermine the best of intentions - for researchers as well as NDErs.


^^^ someone's study on the ways NDEers come back differently

so you would be doing it to become THIS for the most part

[Dresta]

Of course not.

[TheReal Kendall]

this thread was made for me...

answer: no way

the only advantage would be to share your story with others, otherwise you are going to die anyway so what's the rush?

people flat line and come back all the time, have been brain dead, no brain waves...they come back with stories and majority of people for what ever reason don't care to listen to them, or write it off as a dream/brain trip. And it is impossible for them to prove what they are saying is real.

If you accomplished this for 10 minutes you would just be another NDE story...one more added to thousands already out there

This.

[Myth]

no, that would mean you don't come back...

In reality, yes. But the OP set up a hypothetical situation where you die.

[Trollsmasher]

If the death is painless, I am in.

Always have been more interested in what happens in the next phase. Might as well kill myself again if I get revived while liking what I've seen.

[-p.tiddy-]

In reality, yes. But the OP set up a hypothetical situation where you die.
*sigh*...there have been plenty of recorded NDEs with no brain waves...his hypothetical really happens IMO

I get that you are trying to declare that you aren't really dead in an NDE...but that isn't true IMO...none of the people that have had one would agree with you either.

[DCL]

no.

not even if you paid me a trillion dollars to try.

that money is no good to me if i'm dead.

40% chance is way too high.

[Jakeh008]

If the death is painless, I am in.

Always have been more interested in what happens in the next phase.


I would do it if it was painless

[Myth]

*sigh*...there have been plenty of recorded NDEs with no brain waves...his hypothetical really happens IMO

I get that you are trying to declare that you aren't really dead in an NDE...but that isn't true IMO...none of the people that have had one would agree with you either.

I get what you are saying as well. But we have no idea if what we declare as clinically dead is the true "dead," since people can come back. If there were some magical way of coming back from what would be some scientifically impossible version of dead, that could be different.

[-p.tiddy-]

I get what you are saying as well. But we have no idea if what we declare as clinically dead is the true "dead," since people can come back. If there were some magical way of coming back from what would be some scientifically impossible version of dead, that could be different.

like come back after your body has begun to decompose, zombie form?

people have returned after rigor mortis has set in...that's pretty damn close


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/05/23/woman-wakes-after-heart-stopped-rigor-mortis-set-in/

Val Thomas’ doctors honestly can’t explain how she is alive today.

Thomas, who lives in West Virginia, is being called a medical miracle after she suffered two heart attacks and had no brain waves for more than 17 hours; reports NewsNet5.com.

Thomas’ heart stopped around 1:30 a.m. Saturday and doctors said she had no pulse. Rigor mortis started to set in, and she was placed on a respiratory machine.

“Her skin had already started to harden and her fingers curled,” Thomas’ son, Jim, told NewsNet5.com. “Death had set in.”

Thomas, 59, was rushed to a West Virginia hospital, where she was put on a special machine to induce hypothermia. This would allow her body to cool down for 24 hours before they would warm her up again, doctors explained.

However, Thomas’ heart stopped again after the procedure.

Her family said their goodbyes and Thomas’ tubes were removed, but she remained hooked on a ventilator as the possibility of organ donation was discussed.

However, Thomas woke up 10 minutes later and started talking.

“The nurse said, ‘I’m so sorry, Mrs. Thomas,’ and mom said, ‘That’s OK, honey, that’s OK,’” Jim Thomas said.

Val Thomas was transferred to the Cleveland Clinic so that specialists could check her out, but doctors said they could find nothing wrong with her.

“I know God has something in store for me, another purpose,” Val Thomas said. “I don’t know what it is, but I’m sure he’ll tell me.”

[Myth]

like come back after your body has begun to decompose, zombie form?

people have returned after rigor mortis has set in...that's pretty damn close

That is pretty crazy :eek:

I don't know what the cut off is. Nobody can. But whatever that cutoff point is, I want to know what happens hypothetically after that, because nobody has ever returned from that point.

[imdaman99]

I would not even have sex with Monica Bellucci if there was a 10% chance I'd get AIDs. 40% is way too much

[ace23]

Yes.

There's no negative consequence to being permanently dead. You won't feel it.

[Angel Face]

Yes.

There's no negative consequence to being permanently dead. You won't feel it.

how did you know? Did you die before?

[knickballer]

Nah, we'll eventually meet our creator(whoever/whatever that might be)

BUT if you don't have any kids or people relying on you might be tempted though.

[ace23]

how did you know? Did you die before?
Meh