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The JKidd Kid
11-17-2013, 01:03 PM
Where would you rank him among centers? The League?

fpliii
11-17-2013, 01:08 PM
Where would you rank him among centers? The League?

Top 5-6 center, top 20-25 overall.

moe94
11-17-2013, 04:00 PM
He's the best offensive C in the league. Why is he absolutely incapable of rebounding? I don't understand the issue.

ProfessorMurder
11-17-2013, 04:02 PM
He's the best offensive C in the league. Why is he absolutely incapable of rebounding? I don't understand the issue.

Because he's soft as f*ck.

DuMa
11-17-2013, 04:02 PM
then they wouldnt need KG or Reggie Evans

GOBB
11-17-2013, 04:15 PM
If Lopez avg 10rpg his first name wouldnt be Brook. It would be Jamal, unfortunately its Brook.

It's A VC3!!!
11-17-2013, 04:19 PM
He's the best offensive C in the league. Why is he absolutely incapable of rebounding? I don't understand the issue.
He's averaging 7 rebounds per game. Let's not say he's "absolutely incapable" of rebounding. That term is reserved for Bargnani. Is 7 a lot? No, bit it's not anemic either.

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2013, 04:22 PM
His legs are filled with concrete. Hard to chase rebounds when you have no mobility.

moe94
11-17-2013, 04:23 PM
He's averaging 7 rebounds per game. Let's not say he's "absolutely incapable" of rebounding. That term is reserved for Bargnani. Is 7 a lot? No, bit it's not anemic either.
Bargs is a PF who primarily plays in the perimeter. Brook is a C who plays primarily in the post. Lopez is marginally better than a player widely regarded as a horrific rebounder for his size. Lopez is worse. Also, it's 6.5 boards.

ChuckOakley
11-17-2013, 04:29 PM
He's excellent at boxing out and helping the team on the boards. When you're 7'1" 290 you create space for others. The team was the 2nd best rebounding team last year and while they are inconsistent this year, they will be fine on the glass. Also, the Nets have been better on the glass with him on the court than off each of his 4 healthy seasons (not the 5 game season)

Personally, I don't care about his individual rebounding numbers, I care about team rebounding numbers, and assuming the Nets end up out-rebounding their opponents on average, I'm happy.

He's the best offensive center in the league IMO and one of the best paint defenders at the moment. Not only is he averaging 2.7 bpg, opponents only shoot 31.5% at the rim against him. To put that in perspective there are close to 50 players that have to defend at least 6 FGA in the paint (Brook defends about 9 as his guards can't stop penetration).. and of those 50, he is the best.

Hibbert - 35%
Howard - 48%
Bogut - 46%
Duncan - 41%
Noah - 38%
Varejao - 62%

For comparison.

ChuckOakley
11-17-2013, 04:31 PM
Bargs is a PF who primarily plays in the perimeter. Brook is a C who plays primarily in the post. Lopez is marginally better than a player widely regarded as a horrific rebounder for his size. Lopez is worse. Also, it's 6.5 boards.
He also plays low minutes. He averages 7.7 per 36.

ChuckOakley
11-17-2013, 05:03 PM
then they wouldnt need KG or Reggie Evans
KG hasn't been, nor have the Celtics been a good rebounding team for years.
Also, I will be you the Nets will be an above average rebounding team as the stats level off. They were the 2nd best team last year by differential and rebound percentage.

ProfessorMurder
11-17-2013, 06:45 PM
KG hasn't been, nor have the Celtics been a good rebounding team for years.
Also, I will be you the Nets will be an above average rebounding team as the stats level off. They were the 2nd best team last year by differential and rebound percentage.

KG's got the most rebounds on the Nets roster this year, and he's 7th in minutes played.

ChuckOakley
11-17-2013, 06:51 PM
KG's got the most rebounds on the Nets roster this year, and he's 7th in minutes played.
I know.. kind of my point.
Lopez helps the team get rebounds by taking up space. He's 7'1" 290 and excellent at boxing out. Thus Hump, Evans and now KG's rebounding numbers.

KG wasn't a good rebounder in Boston nor the Celtics good on the glass, but I will bet you the Nets will be just fine on the glass 30-40 games in.. they were #2 last year.

#number6ix#
11-17-2013, 06:57 PM
Rebounding is a hustle/effort thing... You have to really want to rebound in order to do it well... Reggie Evans=Loves to rebound... Brook=loves to score

Nash
11-17-2013, 07:08 PM
Lopez is great at boxing out players which basically means that Reggie Evans ends up getting the actual rebound while Lopez does all the dirty work.

La Frescobaldi
11-17-2013, 09:19 PM
He's excellent at boxing out and helping the team on the boards. When you're 7'1" 290 you create space for others. The team was the 2nd best rebounding team last year and while they are inconsistent this year, they will be fine on the glass. Also, the Nets have been better on the glass with him on the court than off each of his 4 healthy seasons (not the 5 game season)

Personally, I don't care about his individual rebounding numbers, I care about team rebounding numbers, and assuming the Nets end up out-rebounding their opponents on average, I'm happy.

He's the best offensive center in the league IMO and one of the best paint defenders at the moment. Not only is he averaging 2.7 bpg, opponents only shoot 31.5% at the rim against him. To put that in perspective there are close to 50 players that have to defend at least 6 FGA in the paint (Brook defends about 9 as his guards can't stop penetration).. and of those 50, he is the best.

Hibbert - 35%
Howard - 48%
Bogut - 46%
Duncan - 41%
Noah - 38%
Varejao - 62%

For comparison.
cool stats!! Where'd you find em?

INDI
11-17-2013, 11:40 PM
Where would you rank him among centers? The League?
1st

ChuckOakley
11-18-2013, 12:30 AM
cool stats!! Where'd you find em?
NBA.com player tracking stats.

AintNoSunshine
11-18-2013, 12:55 AM
Still can't play a lick of defense so not that high

KobeClutchAsFK
11-18-2013, 01:08 AM
He's excellent at boxing out and helping the team on the boards. When you're 7'1" 290 you create space for others. The team was the 2nd best rebounding team last year and while they are inconsistent this year, they will be fine on the glass. Also, the Nets have been better on the glass with him on the court than off each of his 4 healthy seasons (not the 5 game season)

Personally, I don't care about his individual rebounding numbers, I care about team rebounding numbers, and assuming the Nets end up out-rebounding their opponents on average, I'm happy.

He's the best offensive center in the league IMO and one of the best paint defenders at the moment. Not only is he averaging 2.7 bpg, opponents only shoot 31.5% at the rim against him. To put that in perspective there are close to 50 players that have to defend at least 6 FGA in the paint (Brook defends about 9 as his guards can't stop penetration).. and of those 50, he is the best.

Hibbert - 35%
Howard - 48%
Bogut - 46%
Duncan - 41%
Noah - 38%
Varejao - 62%

For comparison.

Where do you get these stats?

EDIT: Should have read more. question already answered

KevinNYC
11-18-2013, 10:05 AM
He's excellent at boxing out and helping the team on the boards. When you're 7'1" 290 you create space for others. The team was the 2nd best rebounding team last year and while they are inconsistent this year, they will be fine on the glass. Also, the Nets have been better on the glass with him on the court than off each of his 4 healthy seasons (not the 5 game season)

Personally, I don't care about his individual rebounding numbers, I care about team rebounding numbers, and assuming the Nets end up out-rebounding their opponents on average, I'm happy.

He's the best offensive center in the league IMO and one of the best paint defenders at the moment. Not only is he averaging 2.7 bpg, opponents only shoot 31.5% at the rim against him. To put that in perspective there are close to 50 players that have to defend at least 6 FGA in the paint (Brook defends about 9 as his guards can't stop penetration).. and of those 50, he is the best.

Hibbert - 35%
Howard - 48%
Bogut - 46%
Duncan - 41%
Noah - 38%
Varejao - 62%

For comparison.


One of the bball blogs did a post on how much better the Nets are at rebounding the ball when Lopez is on a the court. It showed the percentages with him on and off the court. The reason is because he deliberately clears space for his other teammates to get the rebound, not him. I can't find that post, but here's a different article (http://hoopchalk.com/2013/04/16/why-cant-brook-lopez-rebound-he-boxes-out-too-much/) on the same topic. Lopez often boxes out Reggie Evans man, so Evans can be free for the rebound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V6-KzgLOEQ

ChuckOakley
11-18-2013, 10:14 AM
Still can't play a lick of defense so not that high
Wrong.
He's one of the best interior defenders in the NBA.
Watch a game and live in the present.