So did the Nets' plan ultimately fail?

[Connor B]

At the end of the day you've got, yes, a very deep team, but your star power is lacking. Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, and Brook Lopez don't count as guys who can really shake things up in the playoffs or apparently not the regular season either. I never thought the Nets were going to be amazing, but I certainly thought they wouldn't start the season well below .500.

So what happens next? Do they rebound? I know its still very early in the season but still...I don't see them making any miraculous comeback.

[Spaulding]

They are going to be a worse disappointment than the Lakers.

[SpecialQue]

They are going to be a worse disappointment than the Lakers.

No one predicted a finals appearance for the Nets.

[The JKidd Kid]

It's been 9 games and no ones been healthy, so no not at all. And the lacking star power thing is complete bull shit, look at the 04 pistons.

[b1imtf]

It's been 9 games and no ones been healthy, so no not at all. And the lacking star power thing is complete bull shit, look at the 04 pistons.
Comparing this to the 04 Pistons? :roll: :roll:

[Connor B]

It's been 9 games and no ones been healthy, so no not at all. And the lacking star power thing is complete bull shit, look at the 04 pistons.

Chauncey Billups has more star power than any of those guys. He may not be a better player stat wise but he was a game changer.

[ChuckOakley]

Considering they play in the East they will still get a top 5 seed.
once the playoffs start, anything can happen.

They've been playing much better as of late.

[MP.Trey]

Their ultimate plan is to win a championship, and we're 73 games away from the playoffs even starting. So no, not yet.

EDIT: Used 'they're" instead of "their" :facepalm

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

The plan was(is) to buy a Championship. As long Mr. Prokhorov has buttloads of cash, we'll always be contenders for top free agents. #KD2BK

[fiddy]

The plan was(is) to buy a Championship. As long Mr. Prokhorov has buttloads of cash, we'll always be contenders for top free agents. #KD2BK
Yey while giving your first round picks away for players that need wheelchairs. This was a horrible deal.

[Draz]

No one predicted a finals appearance for the Nets.
You'd be surprised. A lot of people thought they'd make it to the finals.

[ChuckOakley]

You'd be surprised. A lot of people thought they'd make it to the finals.
Like who?

I think I've seen 1 reporter out of 37 predict that.
And please don't say Net fans.

I call BS.

[CelticBaller]

It's early in the regular season
The 2010 Celtics weren't that good in the regular season either

[bagelred]

The plan was(is) to buy a Championship. As long Mr. Prokhorov has buttloads of cash, we'll always be contenders for top free agents. #KD2BK

The "Isiah Thomas" plan. Works every time. :applause:

[DuMa]

i seem to remember the heat went 9-8 during the first games of the Heatles dynasty

[ChuckOakley]

i seem to remember the heat went 9-8 during the first games of the Heatles dynasty
Indy started 2-4 last year and was around .500 the first half of the season.

[STATUTORY]

they hitched their wagon to Deron Williams

[KungFuJoe]

It's because these GMs don't seem to learn. They should have seen the writing on the wall back with the Shaq/Kobe/Malone/Payton experiment. You don't add on a bunch of OLD former star players, expecting that they will be the difference. It doesn't work like that. All you get is a bunch of extra egos to manage without the superstar talent behind it.

Same thing with the Lakers with Nash/Howard (though most people probably didn't expect Howard to actually play like an old guy).

And now the Nets.

Nets nickname should be Grumpy Old Men.

[ChuckOakley]

It's because these GMs don't seem to learn. They should have seen the writing on the wall back with the Shaq/Kobe/Malone/Payton experiment. You don't add on a bunch of OLD former star players, expecting that they will be the difference. It doesn't work like that. All you get is a bunch of extra egos to manage without the superstar talent behind it.

Same thing with the Lakers with Nash/Howard (though most people probably didn't expect Howard to actually play like an old guy).

And now the Nets.

Nets nickname should be Grumpy Old Men.
The 2003 Lakers made the Finals.
I'd take that.

Meanwhile the oldest teams are generally the best.

[Fresh Kid]

You'd be surprised. A lot of people thought they'd make it to the finals.
yea a lot of delusional dumb asses had them winning tha title in June:roll: :roll: :roll: but none of them wanna listen to me:lol

[redboy]

it's been 9 games

i'm not a nets fan, but jesus christ the season is still young

[Purch]

The same problems I told the ball fans at my school would lead to the nets failure. .. is exactly what seems to be happening.

However, what's surprising is that they're struggling so early. I thought because they're in the east they would have an inflated record early on... and those weaknesses would really be crippling once playoff time comes.

Regardless fans need to be weary of the "2k team mndset", aka believing that stars put on one team automatically equates to wins, regardless of coaching, system, playstyles or age. I saw these same issues with the Lakers last year

[Darius]

lol season just started.

I think they are going to be a good team. Their ball movement sometime is ridiculously good.

KG looking old though so dunno if their defense will come together.

[ChuckOakley]

The same problems I told the ball fans at my school would lead to the nets failure. .. is exactly what seems to be happening.

However, what's surprising is that they're struggling so early. I thought because they're in the east they would have an inflated record early on... and those weaknesses would really be crippling once playoff time comes.

Regardless fans need to be weary of the "2k team mndset", aka believing that stars put on one team automatically equates to wins, regardless of coaching, system, playstyles or age. I saw these same issues with the Lakers last year
Why are surprised they are struggling early? They are a new team with a lot of injuries.
And if anything they are made for the playoffs, not the regular season. They've played their best against Miami and Indy which is a good sign.

[alexd]

They are not meant to go good in the regular season.wtf is wrong with you?they are experienced and deep enough to challenge anyone in the playoffs.their best players are still young and have experienced and proven players around them.they don t have egos and they are a team that can win anyone on th road which is very important in the playoffs.ofc they ll lose many games in the regular season.think this :when a game is close what is it more important, lose a regular season game or make an effort with your injury prone players?they must play safe and not try to contest close games.they should focus the bigger picture here and have patience and stay healthy for the playoffs

[The JKidd Kid]

Chauncey Billups has more star power than any of those guys. He may not be a better player stat wise but he was a game changer.

No, not at all. Do you even watch games?

[It's A VC3!!!]

No one predicted a finals appearance for the Nets.
Las Vegas odds had them as the 6th most likely team to win a championship.

To OP: Yes, the Nets have failed thus far but we'll accurately answer that question at the end of the season.

[Purch]

I think you're making a rather big assumption, assuming that a team with a rookie head coach, 3 ball dominant wings, and b-lo and kg, will suddenly find cohesion and turn it on for the playoffs. To me that's reserved for a team like the Spurs or the big 3 era in Boston, where you have an offensive system, where everyones role is already defined , and there's cohesion, which allows them to coast and turn it on when they need to. This teams head coach is learning on the fly.

[SpecialQue]

The 2003 Lakers made the Finals.
I'd take that.

Meanwhile the oldest teams are generally the best.

It's hilarious how making it to the finals is seen as a massive failure here. I can think of a few franchises that would fill their pants with jizz if their team even made the conference finals, let alone the finals.

[hawkfan]

The Nets lack someone who can get to the rim.

Moreover, teams only go as far as their star players take them. How will the Nets do? As well as Deron Williams and Brook Lopez do. Will Williams get in better condition and play better defense? Will Lopez improve his rebounding?

[Uncle Drew]

The Nets won't go anywhere with Deron Williams as their starting PG.

[outbreak]

it's early season, i imagine they will still finish 5-7 and will still be a competitive first or second round exit which is about right for what I expected from them.
With their line up they area always an outside chance to make the conference finals (don't see them making the finals) though if their players go crazy like KG and Pierce can do.

[FireDavidKahn]

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/content/Image/07-01-2010/Nets-Blueprint.jpg

[The JKidd Kid]

The Nets won't go anywhere with Deron Williams as their starting PG.

Cavs won't go anywhere with Kyrie Queen of Empty Stats Irving.

[ChuckOakley]

it's early season, i imagine they will still finish 5-7 and will still be a competitive first or second round exit which is about right for what I expected from them.
With their line up they area always an outside chance to make the conference finals (don't see them making the finals) though if their players go crazy like KG and Pierce can do.
Who do you think gets the #4 seed?
I still think they are the favorite for that.

Indiana
Miami
Chicago
Brooklyn
Atlanta
New York
Detroit
Charlotte

Is my guess, when it's all said and done.

[outbreak]

Who do you think gets the #4 seed?
I still think they are the favorite for that.

Indiana
Miami
Chicago
Brooklyn
Atlanta
New York
Detroit
Charlotte

Is my guess, when it's all said and done.

yeah fair enough, I just mean they will be around middle of the pack barring injuries. I'm kind of expecting one or two of their players to be injured at some point this season which may cause them to drop a little.

[HomieWeMajor]

New York basketball is a failure right now

[kamil]

i seem to remember the heat went 9-8 during the first games of the Heatles dynasty

That was my favourite year of the Heatles :)

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I still think they'll put it together. We'll see though.

[I<3NBA]

You'd be surprised. A lot of people thought they'd make it to the finals.
no. almost everyone has Miami making it. who are these "people?" people were predicting them to be 4 seed, not making the Finals.

but yea, Net's plan failed when they got Kidd as coach.

[CelticBaller]

Deron Williams is trash. Paying him that much $$$