Miami winning games despite Lebron coasting.... [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

9erempiree

11-17-2013, 05:01 PM

This team is pretty much loaded and nasty on defense. They can win games with their best player coasting.

I wish Kobe played for Miami and get his 6th to tie MJ.

RRR3

11-17-2013, 05:03 PM

Kobe couldn't put up 27 and 7 on 62/52/77 if his life depended on it

JimmyMcAdocious

11-17-2013, 05:03 PM

Probably the most stacked team ever.

Beasley is playing better than LeBron and he barely gets off the bench.

DuMa

11-17-2013, 05:04 PM

so OP implies Kobe can only get his rings by playing for a stacked team.

#number6ix#

11-17-2013, 05:05 PM

:lol: the trolling god

asdf1990

11-17-2013, 05:05 PM

kobe couldn't win with shaq/GP/malone/phil but he would easily win with this heat team lol

Fudge

11-17-2013, 05:06 PM

Probably the most stacked team of all-time.

Their FO takes good chances signing these low risk high reward type players and they seem to always pull through.

Miller for 3

11-17-2013, 05:06 PM

Kind of sad. Last year they had a better winning percentage when Lebron didn't suit up. They won 66 games with a complete liability playing big minutes for them. Imagine them with Brewer or Aminu in place of Lebust :eek: This era really sucks

9erempiree

11-17-2013, 05:07 PM

kobe couldn't win with shaq/GP/malone/phil but he would easily win with this heat team lol

I thought those teams were "Shaq's team", therefore, it should really be Shaq couldn't win with Kobe/GP/Malone/Phil

Brook(lyn)Lopez

11-17-2013, 05:07 PM

This team is pretty much loaded and nasty on defense. They can win games with their best player coasting.

I wish Kobe played for Miami and get his 6th to tie MJ.

Okay, but if Lebron is coasting by putting up 3 straight 30 point games, than why doesn't he put up 60-70 a game on 37 shots like he was quoted as saying recently.

9erempiree

11-17-2013, 05:08 PM

9erempiree

11-17-2013, 05:09 PM

Okay, but if Lebron is coasting by putting up 3 straight 30 point games, than why doesn't he put up 60-70 a game on 37 shots like he was quoted as saying recently.

He can't do it.

The law of diminishing returns, the more you shoot the more tired you get and your percentages fall off.

Let's be honest, he's not going to keep that 60% rate all game. If that was the case shouldn't Lebron be taking 100 shots then? I mean 60% is better than the team's average.

asdf1990

11-17-2013, 05:09 PM

I thought those teams were "Shaq's team", therefore, it should really be Shaq couldn't win with Kobe/GP/Malone/Phil

so what you are saying is kobe has 3 carried rings which don't count, glad we agree on something

ispin69

11-17-2013, 05:11 PM

Miller for 3

11-17-2013, 05:11 PM

It's a weak era and players today are making a living off of it. Just look at the inflated stats.

I know right? Just 4 years ago the league was so much better. Now you have manufactured *stars (actual liabilities to their teams who are propped up because ESPN has lost the face of basketball, Kobe Bean Bryant) like Lebronze, Harden, Irving, and Love. I think they have a combined WP% of like 35%. Career losers who can't play against handchecking, or without traveling, flopping, chucking 3s, or being lawnchairs on defense. Really sad. I would put most of my YMCA league against the "allstars" of today's NBA

9erempiree

11-17-2013, 05:13 PM

You wish Kobe didn't make so many enemies and shot jacked so much that other players would want to play with him? You jealous Lebron's plan worked? :lol

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loklf5sj0I1ql1nioo1_500.gif

I like to think of it as career losers joining forces.

Wade is probably the exception and that is even arguable.

RRR3

11-17-2013, 05:14 PM

I like to think
False.

moe94

11-17-2013, 05:20 PM

I like to think of it as career losers joining forces.

Wade is probably the exception and that is even arguable.
Number of seasons Kobe Bryant did anything in the league without the best front court available: 0

ispin69

11-17-2013, 05:29 PM

http://i.imgur.com/8mpNCxs.png

Yao Ming's Foot

11-17-2013, 05:37 PM

In this thread the guy who won twice as many championships should emulate the guy who won with twice as much HOF/ All-Star help.

:oldlol:

HomieWeMajor

11-17-2013, 05:39 PM

Lebron coasting still better than Kobe at his peak doe
How dat taste doe

Budadiiii

11-17-2013, 05:45 PM

Lebron coasting still better than Kobe at his peak doe
How dat taste doe
tastes like pasteurized semen with mustard and apple cider vinegar mixed with your mothers ear wax and dildo residue

Homie we minor

HomieWeMajor

11-17-2013, 05:50 PM

tastes like pasteurized semen with mustard and apple cider vinegar mixed with your mothers ear wax and dildo residue

Homie we minor
We minor ?

pauk

11-17-2013, 06:09 PM

Exactly, that proves it... Lebron sux

Mr. Incredible

11-17-2013, 06:18 PM

Still better than Kobe. Always was and always will be.

9erempiree

11-17-2013, 06:27 PM

Still better than Kobe. Always was and always will be.
:facepalm

All Net

11-17-2013, 06:29 PM

Sucks how they have gotten so much out of Beasley when nobody else could.

zoom17

11-17-2013, 07:38 PM

http://i.imgur.com/8mpNCxs.png

:roll: :roll: :roll:

jzek

11-17-2013, 07:46 PM

On the other hand though it's such a waste seeing LeBron like this. He could be putting up 38 10 10 2 1 if he weren't on such a stacked team. This is his prime we're seeing and we're only getting around 65% from him every night. It's like we're all being robbed of something what could have been really historic. :(

PickernRoller

11-17-2013, 08:11 PM

Why is OP obsessed in telling the truth to those that want to deny it? :confusedshrug:

I<3NBA

11-17-2013, 09:31 PM

OP saying Lebron's play is still "coasting" is admitting he can dominate even more.

Kobe could play harder than Lebron and still have worse stats.

thank you OP.

9erempiree

11-18-2013, 01:42 AM

OP saying Lebron's play is still "coasting" is admitting he can dominate even more.

Kobe could play harder than Lebron and still have worse stats.

thank you OP.

The problem is that he can't dominate anymore.

ripthekik

11-18-2013, 01:55 AM

In this thread the guy who won twice as many championships should emulate the guy who won with twice as much HOF/ All-Star help.

:oldlol:
:lol

TheMilkyBarKid

11-18-2013, 01:57 AM

Kobe stans insecurities are pretty much transparent now.

AintNoSunshine

11-18-2013, 02:00 AM

:roll: Look up how many points Wade and Bosh put up the last game, then tell me who carried the team to victory?

Put Kobe's chucking azz on this team you'll be lucky to win 10 games, because do you really expect Bosh to rebound all those bricks? :oldlol:

AintNoSunshine

11-18-2013, 02:05 AM

In this thread the guy who won twice as many championships should emulate the guy who won with twice as much HOF/ All-Star help.

:oldlol:

:roll: All of Lebron's all star helps combined still isn't greater than Shaq himself alone, if someone like Bosh is even sniffing HOF that is because Lebron is putting them rings on his fingers.

Lebron already equaled Kobe on FMVP and blew him out of water in terms of individual plays(MVP), still with years of prime play to stack them up.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I<3NBA

11-18-2013, 03:04 AM

The problem is that he can't dominate anymore.
you jut said he's coasting. did you look up his "coasting" numbers. if that's coasting, then you're admitting he can put up higher numbers.

Lebron's coasting stats is better than Kobe's go-hard, give-all stats.

rfm767

11-18-2013, 03:13 AM

There is a high chance of a 3peat. I don't see Indiana holding up this level of play, guess we'll see.

Yao Ming's Foot

11-18-2013, 09:29 PM

:roll: All of Lebron's all star helps combined still isn't greater than Shaq himself alone, if someone like Bosh is even sniffing HOF that is because Lebron is putting them rings on his fingers.

Lebron already equaled Kobe on FMVP and blew him out of water in terms of individual plays(MVP), still with years of prime play to stack them up.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Bosh has a better NBA HOF case sans Lebron than Gasol sans Kobe.

:confusedshrug:

SamuraiSWISH

11-18-2013, 09:32 PM

Bosh has a better NBA HOF case sans Lebron than Gasol has sans Kobe.

:confusedshrug:
There is no "NBA HOF" it's just basketball HOF. And if that's case, that isn't the truth. Gasol and Bosh performed roughly equal with the Raptors and Grizzlies. It's Gasol's superior play in international competition that makes him a lock for the basketball HOF, even before the 2 rings he helped Kobe win. Don't get ahead of yourself alborz.

Yao Ming's Foot

11-18-2013, 09:54 PM

There is no "NBA HOF" it's just basketball HOF. And if that's case, that isn't the truth. Gasol and Bosh performed roughly equal with the Raptors and Grizzlies. It's Gasol's superior play in international competition that makes him a lock for the basketball HOF, even before the 2 rings he helped Kobe win. Don't get ahead of yourself alborz.

Bosh made 5 all star teams and an all NBA team in Toronto.
Gasol made 1 all star team and 0 all NBA teams in Memphis.

I'm well aware of their international resumes, but don't see their relevance in a NBA discussion. I'm pretty sure Bosh is really proud of Pau's silver medals though.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2008/08/bosh-tz-180.jpg

AintNoSunshine

11-19-2013, 03:06 AM

Bosh has a better NBA HOF case sans Lebron than Gasol sans Kobe.

:confusedshrug:

One got robbed of a FMVP, the other score 0 points in a finals game 7.

Gasol in his prime is so much better than Bosh it's not even close, at the very least he led his team to the PO in the west, what has Bosh done?

PickernRoller

11-19-2013, 03:36 AM

In this thread the guy who won twice as many championships should emulate the guy who won with twice as much HOF/ All-Star help.

:oldlol:

:oldlol: :oldlol:

Simple Jack

11-19-2013, 04:52 AM

Bosh made 5 all star teams and an all NBA team in Toronto.
Gasol made 1 all star team and 0 all NBA teams in Memphis.

I'm well aware of their international resumes, but don't see their relevance in a NBA discussion. I'm pretty sure Bosh is really proud of Pau's silver medals though.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2008/08/bosh-tz-180.jpg

Consider who each was competing with in their respective conferences at the time...

2swift4u

11-19-2013, 06:11 AM

Obviously Miami is pretty stacked but I don't think they're much better than least year or even better at all. Some of their key role-players like Allen and Battier have gotten another year older, Wade's knee probably won't hold up, they are still undersized (unless Oden can play more than 5 minutes, which is doubtful) and their starting PG is still a liability. So they haven't really adressed their main issues in the off-season.

TyroneNBAFan

11-19-2013, 06:43 AM

you jut said he's coasting. did you look up his "coasting" numbers. if that's coasting, then you're admitting he can put up higher numbers.

Lebron's coasting stats is better than Kobe's go-hard, give-all stats.

LMFAO, well played sir.

I don't see the OP trolling his way out of that one.

/thread tbh

riseagainst

11-19-2013, 12:51 PM

In this thread the guy who won twice as many championships should emulate the guy who won with twice as much HOF/ All-Star help.

:oldlol:

dam..... :oldlol:

9erempiree

11-19-2013, 10:55 PM

He's coasting with 13 points on 13 shots and Miami still wins.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

11-19-2013, 10:56 PM

He's coasting with 13 points on 13 shots and Miami still wins.

Miami's TEAM offense with or without LeBron is ELITE. Wade sat out tonight, BTW.

KingBeasley08

11-19-2013, 10:57 PM

Michael Beasley ballin. Brings tears in my eyes to see my boi finally playing well in a role that benefits him :cry:

Thank you Lebron :bowdown:
Greatest mentor ever :bowdown: :bowdown:

9erempiree

11-19-2013, 10:58 PM

Miami's TEAM offense with or without LeBron is ELITE. Wade sat out tonight, BTW.

Exactly.

With our without him they are good. I am not afraid to admit that Miami is good but people call me a hater.

Mr. Incredible

11-19-2013, 11:01 PM

What people don't realize is LeBron has made this team what it now. He's the leader and they follow him which has led to their elite ball movement. Haters gonna hate.

:FeelsGoodMan:

Mr. Incredible

11-19-2013, 11:02 PM

Michael Beasley ballin. Brings tears in my eyes to see my boi finally playing well in a role that benefits him :cry:

Thank you Lebron :bowdown:
Greatest mentor ever :bowdown: :bowdown:
Pretty much.

9erempiree

11-19-2013, 11:03 PM

What people don't realize is LeBron has made this team what it now. He's the leader and they follow him which has led to their elite ball movement. Haters gonna hate.

:FeelsGoodMan:

:oldlol:

and miss shots are assists?

Micku

11-19-2013, 11:28 PM

:oldlol:

and miss shots are assists?

It's the Kobe assist!

DaSeba5

11-19-2013, 11:29 PM

I would have never imagined such an elite offensive system with Spo as a HC. He's come a long way; although it helps to have the players that he has.

Hotlantadude81

11-19-2013, 11:32 PM

Miami's TEAM offense with or without LeBron is ELITE. Wade sat out tonight, BTW.

That's not surprising considering they're playing hot garbage.