Jason Kidd should be fired immediately

[Connor B]

Horrible coach, overrated player, criminal, and bald.

[TheReturn]

Damn that's hateful

[Lebron23]

Horrible coach, overrated player, criminal, and bald.


Are you Scott Skiles???

[LONGTIME]

He shouldn't have been hired as the head coach to begin with.

[#number6ix#]

damn thats kinda harsh... but i do think he's in over his head he shouldve started off as an assistant... Someone give Patrick Ewing a chance for crying out loud

[Eric Cartman]

Horrible coach, overrated player, criminal, and bald.

Jeff Van Gundy?

[imdaman99]

Jeff Van Gundy?
JVG was a very good coach :coleman:

[magictricked]

He shouldn't have been hired as the head coach to begin with.Got that right

[Bandito]

Hire Pat Ewing or maybe try to get Larry brown back.

[mattvNJ]

Being a Grizz and Nets fan, i had high hopes for kidd. I never truly understood the decision due to the fact this team is built to win now, not experiment and hope Kidd playing IQ can handle leading a team of vet's and almost 40 combined all-star appearances. Another thing that ticks me off is how Lionel Hollins is unemployed and Kidd just struts in there. The nets ownership needs to stray away from this style of acquiring NAMES as opposed to talent and building a cohesive unit.

[SpecialQue]

It would be funny if a tanking team somehow got more wins than the Nets this season.

[Meticode]

It would be funny if a tanking team somehow got more wins than the Nets this season.
Who you got? 76ers or Magic?

[SpecialQue]

Who you got? 76ers or Magic?

Magic. You?

[CelticBaller]

Terrible choice of a coach. Should've gotten a proven one.

[jzek]

They said this Nets team was built to win now... then they hired a coach with zero experience. :lol

[TaLvsCuaL]

Lionel Hollins would fit well

[bagelred]

Agree 100%. He is bald.

[CelticBaller]

They said this Nets team was built to win now... then they hired a coach with zero experience. :lol
Terribly ran team, they have an over paid back court, traded all their picks, and hired an inexperienced coach.

[magnax1]

People criticize teams for hiring proven coaches that suck, and the unproven coaches. The only guy who I wouldve said is a sure fire thing on the free market.

[Myth]

Was he hired before or after the KG/Pierce trade? I can't remember. I can kind of understand the hire if it were before the trade, but if he was hired after getting all of those vets, it was a moronic move.

[kamil]

Horrible coach, overrated player, criminal, and bald.

You better start looking for a cure for baldness... 100% of people experience hair loss eventually.

Joke's on you, baldie-to-be!:hammerhead:

[It's A VC3!!!]

there's really nothing he's doing that's putting us in a position to fail. sure he could play alan, a defensive specialist much more but it's not his fault that we play winnable quarters for every quarter except the third. the nets play super well in quarter one, average in quarter two, SHIT in quarter three, and average in quarter four. the problem is paul has died since since his first 4 games and kg has never been alive since he's been with us. he started 6/6 last night and finished 1/11 or something horrid like that. you knew the lunar eclipse wouldn't last. kidd is definitely not pj or avery though, let's be thankful for that.


Was he hired before or after the KG/Pierce trade? I can't remember. I can kind of understand the hire if it were before the trade, but if he was hired after getting all of those vets, it was a moronic move.

he was hired before every signing ( alan, shaun, kg, paul, terry and ak).

[The JKidd Kid]

The Nets would trade the entire roster for a box of cookies before firing Kidd.

[DuMa]

nets are going thru coaches like crazy if they do this.

avery, carlesimo, kidd in less than 2 years as well

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Terrible choice of a coach. Should've gotten a proven one.
what I was saying for a long time. I couldn't believe the Nets hype train. I called out so many times that Kidd probably isn't a good X+O's guy and definitely isn't a good motivator, at least not for a team built like that.

But no, ISH kids just think "OMG DERON + LOPEZ + A COUPLE OLD HOFERS PAST THEIR PRIME! CHAMPIONSHIP!!!" :facepalm

The whole Nets offseason was akin to that of European soccer team. Buy a bunch of old ex-great players and/or hire a player who just retired to be the coach. Prok will hopefully realize this is a different sport.

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

Kidd will fine, give him time, he's a top basketball mind of his generation.
The one that should be fired is that hack Billy King. WOAT GM!
Only reason he is still employed is because his owner has deep pockets and let's him spend to cover up his mistakes.
If he were half way competent, we would have a core of Damian Lillard, James Harden, Brook Lopez, and all the free agents money could buy.
Instead we have a bunch of broke down old guys. :facepalm

#FireBK

[AussieG]

I'd love to see Hollins coach that team but also would like to see Kidd do well.

[BlazerRed]

Horrible coach, overrated player, criminal, and bald.
Short and sweet..

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Kidd will fine, give him time, he's a top basketball mind of his generation.

no, he's a top PG of his generation. Don't mistake being a great PG w/ being a great basketball mind.

[East_Stone_Ya]

should have started as a assistant coach in the first place

[salwan]

give him time folks. it' not like they are not making the playoffs this year with all the tanking teams in the east

[MJ(Mean John)]

Well PP and KG are playing like they should have hung em up last year.

And is it just me or do I feel like D williams sucks now. I feel like he isn't playing hard AT ALL. They guy has not gotten any better since he joined the nets. He needs sloan. Same with JJ. Well, the guy looked promising with the suns, and now he's just average and overrated joe.

The nets are full with a bunch of guys who lack energy, heart, and who are overrated. With a wack ass coach.

They need a coach who will light a fire under their assess. Bring in sloan. Play KG 30 minutes a night. Paul Pierce looks like he lacks energy too. I feel if ALL of these guys had the heart and energy of a KB or AI they would be tearing it up

[DukeDelonte13]

As the poster JKid said, they aren't going to fire him anytime soon.

[poido123]

In defence of Deron, he has been struggling with those ankles since he left Utah. He hasn't been the same probably because his health hasn't been right for a while now.

As far as the Nets, they have had a complete roster overhaul, some of their key players like AK and Deron have been injured and they probably won't start clicking til the second half of the year. We all saw what they are capable of in the preseason, I'm not saying preseason is the same but there were signs that at their best they can run with the best.

[jzek]

the problem is paul has died since since his first 4 games and kg has never been alive since he's been with us.

Wow, and this is only the FIRST MONTH of NBA basketball.

[niko]

No, he should not be fired immediately. You could make a case his hiring was stupid (KG and PP aren't going to listen to him if it contradicts what they want to do, why would they?) But he hasn't done anything wrong that makes him deserving of being fired. You should get fired because you deserve it, not because the start is not perfect.

[It's A VC3!!!]

We all saw what they are capable of in the preseason, I'm not saying preseason is the same but there were signs that at their best they can run with the best.

We see what they are capable of in the regular season too. The Nets play stellar in the first quarter and very solid in the first half. They are 12th in the league in first half points at 49.5 and 26th in second half points at 45.9, courtesy of http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/1st-half-points-per-game

Also, the Nets have lost several very close games that could have easily been won and positioned us as a top team in the east, in terms of standings.

The only two problems with Jason is that his shot allocation schemes are horrific. There is no sane reason as to why Kevin is attempting 10 field goal attempts per game, just two less than he was last year. With Joe, Paul and Brook on the team, Kevin's shot attempts should be cut in half and those extra five shots need to be dispersed amongst our other stars.

Second, Jason needs to give Alan Anderson more minutes and reduce the minutes of Jason "No Defense" Terry.

Aside from those two problems, the rest of the mediocrity the Nets are displaying night in and night out is all on them. Jason has had no more than 10% of a helping hand in the Nets losses.

[bagelred]

Doesn't Kidd have a 3 year contract?

I bet Kidd wants to get fired. 2 years of pay for doing nothing? Wouldn't be surprised.

But no...he won't be fired anytime soon.

[hihofink]

From : http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1856538-jason-kidds-competence-quickly-becoming-brooklyn-nets-biggest-question-mark

[QUOTE]A veteran scout, interviewed earlier in the day and speaking on the condition of anonymity, called Kidd

[CelticBaller]

^ wouldn't be surprised if it's true, if I am correct frank ran the practices. People should stop defending the scrub

[Lebron23]

He's an incompetent coach. Please Fire this clown. BKN needs a real coach.

[niko]

From : http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1856538-jason-kidds-competence-quickly-becoming-brooklyn-nets-biggest-question-mark
The stars are taking turns with the ball. That's not exactly a hard observation to make.

What i would do...
1) Tell KG and PP they are part of the Nets and not on a consulting assignment. That means follow Net rules (sit on bench when not playing, talk to media after game). You can't have separate rules. It's not KG or PP who are absolute pro's pros that any team would love. It's the other guys who aren't following along. But as in anything in life, sometimes the fix isn't so much for the guys behaving, it's for the other guys.
2) Give Kidd more responsibility. Lawrence Frank does way too much. His strategy is respected, he's not respected. The teams he coached (nets included) gave shitty off and on effort. This Nets team right now is giving shitty off and on effort. Make Kidd be more active. That way he can come out and get in people's faces when they aren't doing effort. If Lawrence Frank could do this and not Kidd, he'd be the coach.

Everyone said KG and PP would police things, the problem is they aren't policing for the coach, they are policing for themselves. It's a strange dynamic that isn't ideal for Kidd to become the leader of the team. The Nets have Kidd as a leader who isn't in position to be vocal during game, KG as a mouthpiece for who exactly, PP probably off court the person everyone looks to, Deron who should be the leader but is not, Lopez who is the best player but isn't personality wise that kind of leader, and Frank who is auditioning for his next job doing what Kidd should be doing.

It's bizarre. Fixable, totally. But to fix means they have to acknoweldge something is wrong, and as a Knick fan i can say that doesn't always happen.

[DukeDelonte13]

The stars are taking turns with the ball. That's not exactly a hard observation to make.

What i would do...
1) Tell KG and PP they are part of the Nets and not on a consulting assignment. That means follow Net rules (sit on bench when not playing, talk to media after game). You can't have separate rules. It's not KG or PP who are absolute pro's pros that any team would love. It's the other guys who aren't following along. But as in anything in life, sometimes the fix isn't so much for the guys behaving, it's for the other guys.
2) Give Kidd more responsibility. Lawrence Frank does way too much. His strategy is respected, he's not respected. The teams he coached (nets included) gave shitty off and on effort. This Nets team right now is giving shitty off and on effort. Make Kidd be more active. That way he can come out and get in people's faces when they aren't doing effort. If Lawrence Frank could do this and not Kidd, he'd be the coach.

Everyone said KG and PP would police things, the problem is they aren't policing for the coach, they are policing for themselves. It's a strange dynamic that isn't ideal for Kidd to become the leader of the team. The Nets have Kidd as a leader who isn't in position to be vocal during game, KG as a mouthpiece for who exactly, PP probably off court the person everyone looks to, Deron who should be the leader but is not, Lopez who is the best player but isn't personality wise that kind of leader, and Frank who is auditioning for his next job doing what Kidd should be doing.

It's bizarre. Fixable, totally. But to fix means they have to acknoweldge something is wrong, and as a Knick fan i can say that doesn't always happen.


I think Kidd should at least this early on take a bit more of a passive role and learn. I think KG and PP at this stage in their careers are gonna do what they are gonna do regardless of who's named head coach.

[Genaro]

Why is there so many overreacting threads here? Calm down, it's only 10 games into the season.
Nets may not look as good as people thought but they will play the playoffs and be relevant (even without HCA)

[niko]

I think Kidd should at least this early on take a bit more of a passive role and learn. I think KG and PP at this stage in their careers are gonna do what they are gonna do regardless of who's named head coach.
It's not KG and PP, it's everyone else that isn't giving effort that's the problem and if your head coach has no cache and no pull, how do you change that?

[STATUTORY]

The stars are taking turns with the ball. That's not exactly a hard observation to make.

What i would do...
1) Tell KG and PP they are part of the Nets and not on a consulting assignment. That means follow Net rules (sit on bench when not playing, talk to media after game). You can't have separate rules. It's not KG or PP who are absolute pro's pros that any team would love. It's the other guys who aren't following along. But as in anything in life, sometimes the fix isn't so much for the guys behaving, it's for the other guys.
2) Give Kidd more responsibility. Lawrence Frank does way too much. His strategy is respected, he's not respected. The teams he coached (nets included) gave shitty off and on effort. This Nets team right now is giving shitty off and on effort. Make Kidd be more active. That way he can come out and get in people's faces when they aren't doing effort. If Lawrence Frank could do this and not Kidd, he'd be the coach.

Everyone said KG and PP would police things, the problem is they aren't policing for the coach, they are policing for themselves. It's a strange dynamic that isn't ideal for Kidd to become the leader of the team. The Nets have Kidd as a leader who isn't in position to be vocal during game, KG as a mouthpiece for who exactly, PP probably off court the person everyone looks to, Deron who should be the leader but is not, Lopez who is the best player but isn't personality wise that kind of leader, and Frank who is auditioning for his next job doing what Kidd should be doing.

It's bizarre. Fixable, totally. But to fix means they have to acknoweldge something is wrong, and as a Knick fan i can say that doesn't always happen.

first point is spot on. Can't believe the Nets organization are just allowing KG and PP strutting around like they own the joint, those two have that too cool for school demeanor about them now, like they are better than the organization. And as the leaders they set a poor example and undermine the authority of Jkidd and the rest of the coaches with their nonchalant ways.

But I don't think you can just demand more of Jkidd. He simply doesn't have the coaching experience and would not be able to handle the X's and O's, hiring Kidd as a coach was a great move for appearance and narrative perspective but there's a reason that players usually work as assistant coaches before transitioning to HC. He's in above his head.

[niko]

first point is spot on. Can't believe the Nets organization are just allowing KG and PP strutting around like they own the joint, those two have that too cool for school demeanor about them now, like they are better than the organization. And as the leaders they set a poor example and undermine the authority of Jkidd and the rest of the coaches with their nonchalant ways.

But I don't think you can just demand more of Jkidd. He simply doesn't have the coaching experience and would not be able to handle the X's and O's, hiring Kidd as a coach was a great move for appearance and narrative perspective but there's a reason that players usually work as assistant coaches before transitioning to HC. He's in above his head.

I know people are going to say "KG AND PP ARE DOING NOTHING WRONG" or "THEY EARNED THIS" and neither thing is wrong even a tiny bit. It's just though that a bunch of the other Nets aren't doing their jobs and have naturally took advantage of the situation so far, and it just needs to be clamped down on.

Think JJ in the last two minutes. Most of the time he floats through the first 46 minutes. How is that acceptable?

[rufuspaul]

damn thats kinda harsh... but i do think he's in over his head he shouldve started off as an assistant... Someone give Patrick Ewing a chance for crying out loud


:no: We're not giving him up just yet.

[Straight_Ballin]

Kidd's Nets going head to head against last years champs in the 2nd round.

Don't ever doubt greatness.

OP eating his words once again.