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Mr. Jabbar
11-25-2013, 12:53 AM
we now have 5 western teams with 0.500 or above records not making the playoffs, can we get rid of the east and make it a transition league between d-league and nba?? you can go full tank mode in the east and still risk making the playoffs..

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8615/51tq.png

SpecialQue
11-25-2013, 12:54 AM
I perhaps laughed a little too hard at that red text at the top of that chart. :roll:

Andi
11-25-2013, 12:55 AM
Yea, this is sick lol, Lakers would be 3rd in the eastern conference, haha :D
Maybe it will change the next year since every top prospect in 2014 draft will join eastern team :)

Droid101
11-25-2013, 12:56 AM
Maybe this year will push the commish toward playoff seeding regardless of conference. This is an embarrassment.

oh the horror
11-25-2013, 12:56 AM
Portland is just shocking.

Tmuston Beltics
11-25-2013, 12:56 AM
http://static03.mediaite.com/sportsgrid/uploads/2013/07/jodie-meeks-dwight-howard.jpg

TonyMontana
11-25-2013, 12:59 AM
Two teams above .500 in the East.

two teams below .500 in the West.

I like it. As long as my Heat can cruise through the regular season and first two playoff rounds the current format is fine with me. I want LeBron to be fresh for the ECF and Finals

AirTupac
11-25-2013, 12:59 AM
The Knicks and Nets should combine into 1 team. They might make the playoffs this way.

CelticBaller
11-25-2013, 12:59 AM
Agreed I don't want the Celtics accidentally making playoffs

Eric Cartman
11-25-2013, 01:00 AM
Yea, this is sick lol, Lakers would be 3rd in the eastern conference, haha :D
Maybe it will change the next year since every top prospect in 2014 draft will join eastern team :)

Utah Jazz doe

SpecialQue
11-25-2013, 01:00 AM
The Knicks and Nets should combine into 1 team. They might make the playoffs this way.

They would still have fewer wins than the Lakers, and the Lakers might not even sniff the playoffs due to how fvcking tough the west is.

SpecialQue
11-25-2013, 01:02 AM
Agreed I don't want the Celtics accidentally making playoffs

Boston traded away one of their GOAT franchise players specifically to tank and there's still the threat of them sneaking into a playoff spot. :lol

ThatsGame
11-25-2013, 01:02 AM
The funnier part is the two best teams in the League are in the East..:lol

Droid101
11-25-2013, 01:02 AM
The funnier part is the two best teams in the League are in the East..:lol
The Spurs moved to the east to be with the Pacers this season? I had no idea.

jzek
11-25-2013, 01:03 AM
West could have every team above .500 but none of it matters. The two best teams are in the East (Miami and the only team that can beat them - Indiana).

Unbiased_one
11-25-2013, 01:03 AM
we now have 5 western teams with 0.500 or above records not making the playoffs, can we get rid of the east and make it a transition league between d-league and nba?? you can go full tank mode in the east and still risk making the playoffs..

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/8615/51tq.png

regardless, the ECF will decide who wins the ring

toxicxr6
11-25-2013, 01:03 AM
The funnier part is the two best teams in the League are in the East..:lol

Just checked standing and spurs are still in the west.. For a second..

Mr. Jabbar
11-25-2013, 01:04 AM
The funnier part is the two best teams in the League are in the East..:lol

I wouldn't be so sure about that, specially after only a miracle ray allen 3 denied the spurs their title

ispin69
11-25-2013, 01:04 AM
Looks like Dwight's team is doing well enough to be a playoff team while the Lakers are stuck in the ugly place. Can't tank for shizz and might not make the playoffs. If they do, it will be the low seed which they will make a first round exit anyways.

:cheers: Stay mad.

andremiller07
11-25-2013, 01:04 AM
The Nets and Knicks if you combined there wins would be below the Lakers :facepalm

DuMa
11-25-2013, 01:04 AM
playoffs are in november?

SpecialQue
11-25-2013, 01:05 AM
playoffs are in november?

Yeah, Silver changed the schedule. It's crazy.

SoCalLakersFan1
11-25-2013, 01:05 AM
The Pacers and Heat might both end up with 63+ wins just because every other team in the East is gonna suck.

toxicxr6
11-25-2013, 01:06 AM
:biggums:
I wouldn't be so sure about that, specially after only a miracle ray allen 3 denied the spurs their title

I don't understand after watching last year.. And so far this year people aren't taking the spurs seriously.. So far this season there defense is on par with Indiana for the best in the league.. Baring injuries they are absolutely legit contenders this year again

kamil
11-25-2013, 01:07 AM
The Pacers and Heat might both end up with 63+ wins just because every other team in the East is gonna suck.

If Miami gets 69 or more wins, it deserves an asterisk.

Mr. Jabbar
11-25-2013, 01:07 AM
If Miami gets 69 or more wins, it deserves an asterisk.

you mean another one?

kamil
11-25-2013, 01:09 AM
you mean another one?

What would be the first asterisk for the 2013/14 season?

fpliii
11-25-2013, 01:09 AM
If Miami gets 69 or more wins, it deserves an asterisk.

Same as expansion seasons?

Mr. Jabbar
11-25-2013, 01:10 AM
What would be the first asterisk for the 2013/14 season?

rose*
east*
stacked*

mrpibb
11-25-2013, 01:10 AM
We are so bad.

kamil
11-25-2013, 01:11 AM
Same as expansion seasons?

If you're going to refer to the Raptors and Grizzlies, you should note that the Bulls actually LOST one of the games against the Raptors.

If youre going to try and discredit the validity of a teams performance, you may want to get your facts straight first.

Mr. Jabbar
11-25-2013, 01:11 AM
west also has the best worst team :bowdown:

mrpibb
11-25-2013, 01:12 AM
west also has the best worst team :bowdown:

I had to read this twice. Well played, sir. We are very, very bad. 30th in offensive efficiency, 30th in defensive efficiency.

EDIT: We're only twelve games back, though.

fpliii
11-25-2013, 01:14 AM
If you're going to refer to the Raptors and Grizzlies, you should note that the Bulls actually LOST one of the games against the Raptors.

If youre going to try and discredit the validity of a teams performance, you may want to get your facts straight first.

When did I mention that they didn't? Still an asterisk season.

Don't worry about "my facts". That Bulls team is probably one of the best of all time, just didn't like your tone there. Not a LeBron/Heat guy in the slightest, but people in glass houses...

kamil
11-25-2013, 01:18 AM
rose*
east*
stacked*

East is a given. Stacked I wouldnt give it an asterisk for the 2013/14 season as they colluded a few years ago so it really doesnt carry much weight anymore as the definitive reason for THIS season. In general, yes it deserves an asterisk.

As for Rose... you know, eventhough the Bulls are my favourite team, I dont think they would have had much of a chance to beat the Heat in the playoffs. They didnt before in 2011 when they were healthy and when the Heatles were having problems. Rose or not, Miami would still get their wins against the other teams.

I think it'd be better to just mention all the injuries instead... ie, Rondo, Granger, the Nets injuries, Bynum (not exactly himself), etc etc....

All in all the East is a major joke. Miami and Indiana are going to just steamroll the competition.

Has there ever been such a disparity between the East and West?

SacJB Shady
11-25-2013, 01:29 AM
I perhaps laughed a little too hard at that red text at the top of that chart. :roll:


Since I assume Indiana plays mainly Eastern teams, you can't take their record too seriously. I mean seriously.

imnew09
11-25-2013, 01:30 AM
Such a piece of cake in the Easy during playoff time. Steamroll those 4-0, sweeping brooms. :facepalm

Anyways, Lakers .500 :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

ispin69
11-25-2013, 01:35 AM
Which conference won the last two championships? When was the last time the West won...back when Dirk + the Mavs had that team that is now no longer around.

moe94
11-25-2013, 01:35 AM
Haters already have their excuses lined up. Pathetic.

Last 10 years, the championship has split evenly between the conferences, so regardless of how deep the West is, they're not producing more champions and you can use the "tired" excuse all you want but it changes nothing.

VIntageNOvel
11-25-2013, 04:11 AM
of course if the option is either "Join Them" or "Get Injured", it eventually makes the balance worse

Scholar
11-25-2013, 04:38 AM
Man, East really looks weak. Lakers at .500 likely not making the Playoffs while Celtics, Bobcats, etc., are meant to be tanking but currently risking making the Eastern Conference Playoffs.

KrizMiz
11-25-2013, 05:19 AM
same discussion every year ! just get over it!

cos88
11-25-2013, 08:08 AM
i don't get why lakers fans, i mean kobe stans are mad. the playoffs is nothing important to them. also dwight > lakers.

BoutPractice
11-25-2013, 08:35 AM
This may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for league-wide balance.
Here's why: a lot of Eastern Conference teams are going to end up with the best picks in what is projecting to be the best draft since 2003. (In 2003 too the East got LeBron, Wade, and Bosh)

People are predicting that 2014 will be the year the top talent in the league gets renewed, with several franchise players and All-Stars at all 5 positions. There's a possibility the East ends up with 4 players out of Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Exum, Smart and Embiid.

Fresh Kid
11-25-2013, 08:52 AM
all u westianz need to stop complaining, its still early anyway:coleman:

sundizz
11-25-2013, 10:17 AM
It definitely does benefit to be an Eastern Conference elite team though. Miami and Indiana get to beat up on scrub East teams 4x a year and stack their W's en route to HCA if/when they reach the finals. Additionally, there is very little chance an upset could be had against anyone. On the other hand, Miami or Indiana would be very much tested against anyone from the West basically. I could see a healthy 4-6 seeded Grizz giving Miami or Indiana a serious challenge.

Zbo + Gasol > Hibbert + West
Tayshaun <<< George
Allen = Lance
Conley >> Hill
Benches approximately equal with Miller, Scola, Kosta...slight edge to Memphis.

BlackVVaves
11-25-2013, 10:22 AM
I think this is going to just make Western teams that more formidable. If this trend continues (which I'm certain it won't), and a 40 win team in the West makes out with a top 5 pick?

Best case scenario for a franchise, IMO.

Nelson14
11-25-2013, 10:22 AM
The funnier part is the two best teams in the League are in the East..:lol
winner winner, i would take pacers and heat in a 7 game series over pretty much every team in the west spurs are the only team that could hang with the

russwest0
11-25-2013, 10:28 AM
winner winner, i would take pacers and heat in a 7 game series over pretty much every team in the west spurs are the only team that could hang with the

OKC would kill the Pacers in a 7 game series... They demolished the Pacers by 10+ points each time they met last year

KOBE143
11-25-2013, 10:44 AM
DWIGHT SUCKS

:applause:

Fresh Kid
11-25-2013, 10:49 AM
DWIGHT SUCKS

:applause:
:applause:

Dresta
11-25-2013, 11:09 AM
It definitely does benefit to be an Eastern Conference elite team though. Miami and Indiana get to beat up on scrub East teams 4x a year and stack their W's en route to HCA if/when they reach the finals. Additionally, there is very little chance an upset could be had against anyone. On the other hand, Miami or Indiana would be very much tested against anyone from the West basically. I could see a healthy 4-6 seeded Grizz giving Miami or Indiana a serious challenge.

Zbo + Gasol > Hibbert + West
Tayshaun <<< George
Allen = Lance
Conley >> Hill
Benches approximately equal with Miller, Scola, Kosta...slight edge to Memphis.http://www.abload.de/img/laughstupid45kad.gif

HoopsFanNumero1
11-25-2013, 11:14 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/laughstupid45kad.gif

:lol

All Net
11-25-2013, 11:18 AM
And you could argue the best two teams are in the east too.. That's what makes it crazy.

Fresh Kid
11-25-2013, 11:20 AM
And you could argue the best two teams are in the east too.. That's what makes it crazy.
i know, miami and new York.

TheReturn
11-25-2013, 11:22 AM
Making the playoffs as a 7/8 seed is overrated.

pauk
11-25-2013, 12:04 PM
lol @ Dwight sucks.

Unbiased_one
11-25-2013, 12:13 PM
It definitely does benefit to be an Eastern Conference elite team though. Miami and Indiana get to beat up on scrub East teams 4x a year and stack their W's en route to HCA if/when they reach the finals. Additionally, there is very little chance an upset could be had against anyone. On the other hand, Miami or Indiana would be very much tested against anyone from the West basically. I could see a healthy 4-6 seeded Grizz giving Miami or Indiana a serious challenge.

Zbo + Gasol > Hibbert + West
Tayshaun <<< George
Allen = Lance
Conley >> Hill
Benches approximately equal with Miller, Scola, Kosta...slight edge to Memphis.

The heat have had better records against the west recently...they don't seem to have any interest in stacking up regular season wins against anyone tbh

Goldrush25
11-25-2013, 12:30 PM
Why is a Lakers fan complaining about possibly not making the playoffs? That's the best thing that could happen to you guys. Your team isn't doing shite anyway. As usual there's about 3 teams that can win the championship this year, two of those teams are in the East, and the rest are S.O.L.

TimmyDuncan
11-25-2013, 12:40 PM
Here's why: a lot of Eastern Conference teams are going to end up with the best picks in what is projecting to be the best draft since 2003. (In 2003 too the East got LeBron, Wade, and Bosh)



Problem is Wiggins, Parker etc.. will have poor records the first years and when they are really good they'll take their talents to Orlando in the summer of 2019 so that would make only 1 good team in the east

And the spurs will still be contender in 2019. They will just have turned into zombie to keep up :cheers:

BarberSchool
11-25-2013, 12:58 PM
I could see a healthy 4-6 seeded Grizz giving Miami or Indiana a serious challenge.
...slight edge to Memphis.Are you from the greater Memphis area ? What was the highest level of education you've completed ?

ninephive
11-25-2013, 01:22 PM
Haters already have their excuses lined up. Pathetic.

Last 10 years, the championship has split evenly between the conferences, so regardless of how deep the West is, they're not producing more champions and you can use the "tired" excuse all you want but it changes nothing.
Are you kidding? If the Spurs were in the East, they could literally rest their starters for significant minutes and give them more steam come the Conference Finals and Finals. That would make a huge difference...especially considering how close this last one was and how gassed Duncan and Parker were because of all their overtime playoff games with Golden State and Memphis and their heavy minutes. Add to that the fact that if they were in the East they would have probably had home court advantage because of the terrible competition they would have been able to play all season like the Heat do. And if you don't think Manu and Green get those foul calls in San Antonio in OT in Game 6, you're crazy. It makes a huge difference and you truly have to look no farther than last season to see that.

jimmy77x
11-25-2013, 01:25 PM
Two teams above .500 in the East.

two teams below .500 in the West.

I like it. As long as my Heat can cruise through the regular season and first two playoff rounds the current format is fine with me. I want LeBron to be fresh for the ECF and Finals

I guess Cleveland was "My Cavs" pre 2010 right?

ninephive
11-25-2013, 01:30 PM
Right now the East is 17-44 (0.279) against the West. It's a joke.